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Old September 27th, 2010, 11:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Kies mini now on samsung usa site - xda-developers

Saw this on the XDA site, just installed it. Appears now we don't have to download a kies app from the international site. I just finished installing it so I'm not certain how well it works.

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For the download, go to the bottom of the page.

Edit: I've now installed it and used it. Didn't do anything the first go around, I'm not sure if this is because of the original usb driver being installed or since i wasn't using touchwiz.

I uninstalled the old usb driver and rebooted the computer. I then tried a usb connected and storage mode worked, but kies did not. I then changed my default usb connection to kies and received a message on the screen saying I needed to be on the "idle" screen and to close my applications. I then changed my launcher back to touchwiz(via home switcher) and then tried it again with kies as default. This worked just fine.

If you were already using kies don't bother with this. It appears Kies mini is strictly for firmware upgrading purposes as it doesn't appear to have any other options. I'd say this gives light to the idea that the 2.2 update will eventually come down through Kies.

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Thanks for the heads up, totally missed it on XDA.
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How do you guys get to it? I selected
Category: Cell Phones
Sub-Category: AT&T Cell Phones.

Model: I897 is not on the list that they give you.
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How do you guys get to it? I selected
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Model: I897 is not on the list that they give you.
Don't worry about the missing box. Just click the link and scroll to the bottom of the page. You'll see a software button. Click that.
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Don't worry about the missing box. Just click the link and scroll to the bottom of the page. You'll see a software button. Click that.
First it says, there is no downloads, then on the bottom it comes up with "Page Not Found", then the page tries to re-load and all you get is a blank page.
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First it says, there is no downloads, then on the bottom it comes up with "Page Not Found", then the page tries to re-load and all you get is a blank page.
same here page appears to be down. Anyone having trouble connecting to the international Kies after the alleged GPS update. Kies wont recognize my phone :-(
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I managed to grab the url before the save dialog came up.

Try this.
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It is a stripped down version of KIes that only upgrades the firmware. AT&T crippling Kies basically. If you already got the OTA update, you don't need this.
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Thanks for the link.....

After the install I get a message that says min launcher not responding and my phone is not recognized.
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I saw that the OTA upgrade charged me for 13+MB of data. Will Kies allow upgrades without using OTA data minutes? Since I am most of the time at a wifi location I signed up for the 200MB plan and would prefer to use my minutes for my preferences rather than ATT.

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I saw that the OTA upgrade charged me for 13+MB of data. Will Kies allow upgrades without using OTA data minutes? Since I am most of the time at a wifi location I signed up for the 200MB plan and would prefer to use my minutes for my preferences rather than ATT.

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Since you're loading the update from your computer it wouldn't use your ATT data unless you were tethering.
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Looks like it's been pulled from their webpage. The only thing under downloads now are USB drivers. No mention of Kies.

Is anyone able to connect to the International Kies after the update? I cannot.
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The site is back working but I get...

"MiniApplication launcher has stopped working" everytime I launch the program.

Arghhhh!!!
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This is freaking awesome. A whole program newly released for the sole purpose of UPDATING our phones. If this doesn't say Samsung will continue to update our phones I don't know what will.
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I used Kies Mini today to update my firmware. I have had no luck connecting to Kies "full" or via the ATT server via the phone. One thing that I needed to do was to place the phone into debug mode to get it to connect to kies. As far as the GPS its better but def not fixed. BTW the Samsung, level III tech that was helping me stated that they are aware that this firmware doesnt fix the GPS issue.
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same here page appears to be down. Anyone having trouble connecting to the international Kies after the alleged GPS update. Kies wont recognize my phone :-(
I think most people! The only solution is to do a "Driver Recovery" in Kies and then wait until the drivers are re-installed. Then, connect the phone for a one-time use. If you unplug and re-plug, Kies will not re-connect. There are quite a few threads on this problem on various forums. I think this is an AT&T kill feature.
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This is freaking awesome. A whole program newly released for the sole purpose of UPDATING our phones. If this doesn't say Samsung will continue to update our phones I don't know what will.
Well...that's one way of putting it. Another way would be At&t wanted a stripped down version of Kies that didn't allow tethering.
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I think most people! The only solution is to do a "Driver Recovery" in Kies and then wait until the drivers are re-installed. Then, connect the phone for a one-time use. If you unplug and re-plug, Kies will not re-connect. There are quite a few threads on this problem on various forums. I think this is an AT&T kill feature.
Driver issue makes sense, I'll play around with it. Thanks.
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Well...that's one way of putting it. Another way would be At&t wanted a stripped down version of Kies that didn't allow tethering.
I prefer to see the bright side. At&t will do whatever it will do regardless. (unless of course we all band together, which will never happen, I'd wager that most ppl who own captivates don't even know it's made by samsung unless they look [ yes I am aware it says samsung on the front]
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I prefer to see the bright side. At&t will do whatever it will do regardless. (unless of course we all band together, which will never happen, I'd wager that most ppl who own captivates don't even know it's made by samsung unless they look [ yes I am aware it says samsung on the front]
I like your optimism but experience has taught me otherwise :-)

And yes, it does say Samsung on the front. As much advertising as Samsung has put behind it's galaxy S phones the Samsung badge is hard to miss. For all my gripes with this device (the good still outweigh the bad) I blame at&t, not Samsung.
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I like your optimism but experience has taught me otherwise :-)

And yes, it does say Samsung on the front. As much advertising as Samsung has put behind it's galaxy S phones the Samsung badge is hard to miss. For all my gripes with this device (the good still outweigh the bad) I blame at&t, not Samsung.
Experience has apparently taught me the opposite of what it taught you. So...out of curiosity: you blame the GPS issue on AT&T; the lag issues (e.g. file system I/O) on AT&T; and the variety of other bugs on AT&T? Where does Google and Samsung fit? I know you didn't explicitly blame those things on AT&T but...you implied it. AT&T is the whipping boy of the cellphone world - it's trendy/hip/cool to hate them. Everybody loves a good bitching. And it's synonymous with Apple who is another hip/trendy/cool company to hate (or love) - albeit for different reasons (hip to hate them because they are hip - the whole rebellious I-am-not-a-sheep-I'm-a-unique-person thing afflicts adults as well). I personally don't have a problem with AT&T, my coverage is great and I probably would lock the phone from non market place apps too. Just so the idiots don't mess up their phones and try to pin it on the company (hell the SMART people mess up their phones). The ones who WANT to sideload can easily sideload. And the tethering thing gone? No AT&T phone has free internet tethering (which boggles my mind why they don't...they have caps now on data...makes no sense) and I'm fairly certain other providers charge for internet tethering capabilities. Again there are hacks out there that can easily bypass such restrictions. I would argue that AT&T is the least party to blame. Apart from them choosing to not have a flash, front facing camera, and for not pushing, kicking, and biting hard enough to get Froyo and a real GPS fix out of Samsung, and fast (along with the other US carriers...they should have all said NO to Samsung until Froyo and GPS were on it / working (respectively).
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MiniKies does not work. it crashes EVERY TIME I plug my phone in.
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Experience has apparently taught me the opposite of what it taught you. So...out of curiosity: you blame the GPS issue on AT&T; the lag issues (e.g. file system I/O) on AT&T; and the variety of other bugs on AT&T? Where does Google and Samsung fit? I know you didn't explicitly blame those things on AT&T but...you implied it. AT&T is the whipping boy of the cellphone world - it's trendy/hip/cool to hate them. Everybody loves a good bitching. And it's synonymous with Apple who is another hip/trendy/cool company to hate (or love) - albeit for different reasons (hip to hate them because they are hip - the whole rebellious I-am-not-a-sheep-I'm-a-unique-person thing afflicts adults as well). I personally don't have a problem with AT&T, my coverage is great and I probably would lock the phone from non market place apps too. Just so the idiots don't mess up their phones and try to pin it on the company (hell the SMART people mess up their phones). The ones who WANT to sideload can easily sideload. And the tethering thing gone? No AT&T phone has free internet tethering (which boggles my mind why they don't...they have caps now on data...makes no sense) and I'm fairly certain other providers charge for internet tethering capabilities. Again there are hacks out there that can easily bypass such restrictions. I would argue that AT&T is the least party to blame. Apart from them choosing to not have a flash, front facing camera, and for not pushing, kicking, and biting hard enough to get Froyo and a real GPS fix out of Samsung, and fast (along with the other US carriers...they should have all said NO to Samsung until Froyo and GPS were on it / working (respectively).
Well...I'm glad you're happy with your coverage, I however am not. At&t's coverage isn't great in NYC and that has nothing to do with being trendy or cool. As far as the GPS issue goes, honestly, I never had an issue with it, albeit I don't use it much. As far as Google goes, no issues here either, I love the Android OS. I like Apple too far that matter, go figure. In fact, I tend to shy away from popular opinion (as I type this on my DELL, another whipping boy as you say). I don't like At&t for a myriad of reasons, but I don't want to take up several pages detailing my gripes, some of which has nothing to do with this particular phone. I'm happy you're happy, my views and opinions remain unchanged and when my contract expires I'll have options that I may exercise, it's as simple as that. Apparently you didn't like me pointing out your optimism, so....let's just forget it. You're entitled to your views as am I.
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MiniKies does not work. it crashes EVERY TIME I plug my phone in.
I had the same problem running it on a Windows 7 64bit machine. If you have any 32bit machines try those. I was able to connect to Kies after installing it on my wifes netbook which runs Windows 7 Starter 32bit.
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I had the same problem running it on a Windows 7 64bit machine. If you have any 32bit machines try those. I was able to connect to Kies after installing it on my wifes netbook which runs Windows 7 Starter 32bit.
I'm currently using Kies on a win7 64 bit machine. As far as working goes, I have to set kies as the default usb connection, and switch touchwiz back to my default home launcher, but after that mini kies works fine.
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Well...I'm glad you're happy with your coverage, I however am not. At&t's coverage isn't great in NYC and that has nothing to do with being trendy or cool. As far as the GPS issue goes, honestly, I never had an issue with it, albeit I don't use it much. As far as Google goes, no issues here either, I love the Android OS. I like Apple too far that matter, go figure. In fact, I tend to shy away from popular opinion (as I type this on my DELL, another whipping boy as you say). I don't like At&t for a myriad of reasons, but I don't want to take up several pages detailing my gripes, some of which has nothing to do with this particular phone. I'm happy you're happy, my views and opinions remain unchanged and when my contract expires I'll have options that I may exercise, it's as simple as that. Apparently you didn't like me pointing out your optimism, so....let's just forget it. You're entitled to your views as am I.
Well...the theme of my last post was inspired by you blaming all the phones problems on AT&T which I found rather...odd. I'm curious about odd things you see. I found it odd because I thought it absurd. Hence why my whole post was challenging AT&T being the sole offender. However, I misconstrued your original post. "For all my gripes with this device (the good still outweigh the bad) I blame at&t, not Samsung." I took this to be a general, catch all, blame game on AT&T. Whereas you just meant it as just your personal gripes with your phone (or your service). Not the glaring problems that a lot of users share (that Kies being a dedicated firmware program would/could/hopefully fix). Going back to your original response to my optimistic comment about Kies it's obvious you have a bone to pick with AT&T, and for good reason it sounds like. So... basically I just used you as a spring board to launch into a rant about who's to blame. The extent that I care about your views and opinions extended insofar to just prick my curiosity on a matter that turned out to be a false assumption. I don't mean to hijack this thread but I felt compelled to respond given the tone (umbrage) of your last reply. This post I'm typing right now might have some of that in it too. Nothing against you my friend or your opinions. I'm sorry your coverage sucks. I was speaking much more broadly. About things that Kies mini can fix...
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Understood, just a simple misunderstanding. We'll all be friends when Froyo hits .

And for what it's worth I hope Samsung stands behind Kies and not abandon firmware updates like it did for a few of it's Bluray players. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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I'm currently using Kies on a win7 64 bit machine. As far as working goes, I have to set kies as the default usb connection, and switch touchwiz back to my default home launcher, but after that mini kies works fine.
I've seen it work on a 64bit machines as well but a few users on XDA forums have pointed out issues on these machines and recommended using a 32bit machine when possible. My machine is also heavily tweaked and may be contributing to the issues I've been experiencing, my wifes netbook is practically stock and it works well.

[HOWTO] Update to JH7 using Kies Mini (USA) - xda-developers
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I've seen it work on a 64bit machines as well but a few users on XDA forums have pointed out issues on these machines and recommended using a 32bit machine when possible. My machine is also heavily tweaked and may be contributing to the issues I've been experiencing, my wifes netbook is practically stock and it works well.

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It works on my wife's laptop and it's running 64bit Vista.
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It works on my wife's laptop and it's running 64bit Vista.
Not surprising, there were a few users who had several 64bit machines where some worked and some didn't. It's strange to me considering the International version worked great on the same machine. I also uninstalled the original drivers and let Kies mini reinstall them, still no luck. Either way, the recommendation made on XDA me helped through the installation process.
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I'm currently using Kies on a win7 64 bit machine. As far as working goes, I have to set kies as the default usb connection, and switch touchwiz back to my default home launcher, but after that mini kies works fine.
Hmm. Sounds like this might solve my issues.

Set default usb connection? Can you elaborate?

How do you change the launcher back to touchwiz? I am using Launcher Pro.
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Well I'm not getting this to work. It sits there "Please connect your mobile phone" and never detects that it's been connected.

Trying this on an XP machine that's never had Kies on it before. USB Mass Storage works fine.

I've tried setting USB to "ask" then choosing Kies, as well as forcing USB to always be "Kies".
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Well I'm not getting this to work. It sits there "Please connect your mobile phone" and never detects that it's been connected.

Trying this on an XP machine that's never had Kies on it before. USB Mass Storage works fine.

I've tried setting USB to "ask" then choosing Kies, as well as forcing USB to always be "Kies".
Try putting the phone in Debug Mode.
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Try putting the phone in Debug Mode.
I had, but originally it didn't help. I tried a reboot though and then Debug Mode work.

Eh, whatever. It's updating now. We'll see what happens. Did my Titanium Backup so I should be prepared for the worst.

Anyhow thanks for at least confirming Debug Mode was necessary.
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Old September 30th, 2010, 12:04 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I had, but originally it didn't help. I tried a reboot though and then Debug Mode work.

Eh, whatever. It's updating now. We'll see what happens. Did my Titanium Backup so I should be prepared for the worst.

Anyhow thanks for at least confirming Debug Mode was necessary.
No problem, glad to hear it worked.
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No problem, glad to hear it worked.
Well, I wouldn't jump to that conclusion quite yet.

Update applied, phone rebooted... now it's been on the pulsing "S" for a few minutes already, without progressing. Certainly longer than a normal boot, but I will pray this is just a normal one-time thing after flashing an update.
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Well, I wouldn't jump to that conclusion quite yet.

Update applied, phone rebooted... now it's been on the pulsing "S" for a few minutes already, without progressing. Certainly longer than a normal boot, but I will pray this is just a normal one-time thing after flashing an update.

If this doesn't work, pull the battery, let it sit for a couple minutes, then put it back and start. When it boots up, check the software version.
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All good now, just took forever to reboot.

As for whether it fixed anything... we shall see...
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Finally got the phone to connect on windows 7 64 bit. Change Kies to be the default on the phone and turned on debugging.

I am running unleash the beast v.02

Here is what I got.
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Would be nice if we can have the one click Odin with JH7....
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Try putting the phone in Debug Mode.
Well, still can't get mini to run past recognizing the phone. It always comes up with this error. I have tried everything I can think of, regular kies does work but would still like this to work for the simplicity of only updates.

Edit: Just read on project voodoo that ext4 has to be disabled for kies to work which is strange because the full version of kies works for me in ext4 mode. Well, at least for contacts, pics, music, not for the update which I know is because of all the mods.
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. Well, at least for contacts, pics, music, not for the update which I know is because of all the mods.
This app only does updating so its entirely possible its just not compatible with ext4, which is a shame, but they didn't ask my opinion.
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^^Same error message I get. Had to install it on another machine.
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According to Samsung customer service Kies Mini for Captivate is Compatible with the following OS: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windws 7 (32bit Only)
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According to Samsung customer service Kies Mini for Captivate is Compatible with the following OS: Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windws 7 (32bit Only)
Christ I'm so tired of programs that don't support 64-bit! It's been around for a long while now, at least 5 years. XP has a 64-bit version. Anyway, kies mini seems to be working on my desktop running windows 7 64. I didn't have any installation problems and it detects my phone with the correct firmware and everything. It's not in compatibility mode either nor do I use a virtual setup.
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So I wonder now that it looks like the only option is for firmware, how the USB tethering works with 2.2?
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Finally, FINALLY got JH7 via Kies Mini. Been batting my head against a wall for the last 4 hours trying to get the regular Kies to work. Phone wouldn't connect, then would connect, then got various errors trying to update. What a buggy program. Finally remembered Kies Mini and BOOM, update installed in less than five minutes.

What a nightmare this is. I never got a notification about JH7 on my phone either. I hope Froyo is easier than this was.

Forgot to mention, using Windows 7 64bit
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im running windows 7 64bit and it ran fine
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