I see alot of people on here blaming the lack of Froyo for the Captivate on Samsung. Honestly guys it is not their fault. The reason we do not have an authorized version of Froyo at this time is because AT&T has to approve the OS and they have not done ao.with any version that has been sent to them up to this point. There are several reasons but the main two being that an unrestricted Froyo enables Mobile AP and USB Tethering without incurring service fees from the carrier. AT&T charges $60 each for these features and therefore will not EVER authorize ANY version of the Android OS for ANY phone they sell or provide service for unless features such as these are disabled in the update.
For those that seriously have to have Froyo skim on over to the XDA website and get it. Perfectly viable and fully functional build is there free for download and it works.
Just waiting for the gingerbread release now. :-)
The funny thing is every other phone manufacturer released Froyo for their phones MONTHS ago. Even Dell managed to get the streak updated (on AT&T) a few weeks back. None of the US carriers have Froyo for their Galaxy S phones but Motorola and HTC managed to get all of their devices updated a few weeks after it was available when they have to go through the very same QA process that Samsung does on Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint.
The funny thing is every other phone manufacturer released Froyo for their phones MONTHS ago. Even Dell managed to get the streak updated (on AT&T) a few weeks back. None of the US carriers have Froyo for their Galaxy S phones but Motorola and HTC managed to get all of their devices updated a few weeks after it was available when they have to go through the very same QA process that Samsung does on Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint.
Out of that chart the only phones that are recent phones and were marketed as top-end devices by their respective manufactures are:
Droid
Droid X
Droid Incredible
Evo 4G
Guess whatUser CP they all have in common. Was anyone really expecting a Froyo update for the backflip?
I'm just saying you made it sound like everyone else was updating - but all these phones ~1yr or less and only 7 of 34 updated.
HTC's been the busiest. Take them out of the picture and only 3 of 26 phones were updated. So not much in the way of updates last year for most phones.
im in scotland and have had 2.2 on my desire hd since i got it a few months back it sounds to me like the states is quite a bit behind europe when it comes to this sort of thing ? why is this
htc desire
t mobile
Given that Canada got GB, is this a good indication that ATT might get it soon? Or it could be anywhere from a 1 day - 12 months delay? After Rogers got the update for Froyo does anybody know how much more it took ATT?
forget it dude...just keep waiting..i am already tired of this and planning to get a leaked version..how long can we wait??
I'm on the same boat. Let me know what you end up flashing and how it goes. I'll prob do the same. I wanna now if the upgrade makes your phone a bit faster and better battery life.
I updated the other day to Gingerbread, still figuring out the changes to see what has improved.
I can say however that the phone is a bit quicker, so that is good. Also my biggest peave was not being able to send out big pictures through MMS, under 2.2 it would say it was compressing the picture but then fail upon sending. Reading the forums it was determined that it did not compress enough so it would fail, most people sent pictures through e-mail or used a different texting app. IT IS ALL FIXED NOW, sending pictures through MMS is the way it should be.
Another thing is after upgrading my keyboard (downloaded the Gengerbread keyboard) was working, but I changed it to the included one and did not like it. When I changed back it just wouldn't take it. The solution was to not only select the gingerbread keyboard, but you have to "select input method" to gingerbread keyboard as well.
I didn't have a battery issue on my captivate, but will keep an eye on it over the next few days to let you know.
Gingerbread is definitely worth upgrading to, I was not impressed by 2.2 as it always looked half done. This 2.3.3 is stable, and finally works out many of the bugs.
Copying and pasteing is also easier now. I am really liking 2.3.3.
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I did notice that today Sept. 27, the AT&T Samsung Captivate support download page was updated with a new version of Kies, SAMSUNG Kies,Others (Software) (ver.11011.4) . Might bode well for a Gingerbread update soon.
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Thanks for the info! I'm gonna wait 2 weeks (mostly because I've never flashed before, even though I already read how it has to be done) for ATT. If not I guess I'll make the jump. Its good to know its stable.
I don't like those ROMS that people say give them 10000000000 quadrant score but the downside is they cant make a phone call.
I did notice that today Sept. 27, the AT&T Samsung Captivate support download page was updated with a new version of Kies, SAMSUNG Kies,Others (Software) (ver.11011.4) . Might bode well for a Gingerbread update soon.
Good catch, definitely good news!
EDIT: That looks like Kies, not Kies Mini though..
EDIT EDIT: That's from 2010..
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Got the Gingerbread update on Rogers here in Canada for my Captivate the other day. Had a bunch of issues with Kies before it actually worked though. Twice the upgrade process stopped and Kies closed on me and then it wouldn't recognize my device again until I unplugged it, rebooted and then plugged it in again. the 3rd try it finally went all the way through and upgraded to Gingerbread successfully!
It kept all my apps but not my homescreens so I needed to rebuild those, no big deal.
Haven't really noticed a big difference so far except for icons having different looks. Seems to be a bit faster switching between screens and apps but I haven't looked at battery life yet.
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well after reading your post, i googled samsung canada, phoned the 800 number,, was on hold for 5 minutes(which i find totally acceptable),, got a live person she said she had no idea about update if or when and for me to keep checking the website,, I told her that was unacceptable and i wanted to speak to someone higher up about lack of information to the customer,, so i was transfered,, on hold again,, maybe 10 mins,, was on with a manager and i was informed that Rogers and Bell customers will recieve update middle of december, then i questioned about being 2 FWs behind and future updates past 2.2 , the reply was there is no formal announcement as of yet,, but after all carriers have 2.2 out,, there is a announcement prepared, and also said that this phone is not a short term project
so i found samsung canada to be very forth comming and helpful
Also my biggest peave was not being able to send out big pictures through MMS, under 2.2 it would say it was compressing the picture but then fail upon sending. Reading the forums it was determined that it did not compress enough so it would fail, most people sent pictures through e-mail or used a different texting app. IT IS ALL FIXED NOW, sending pictures through MMS is the way it should be.
I just started having the MMS sending issues with the stock Messaging app on 2.2 the other day. I realized that if I used Handcent the problem went away. AT&T told me to swap my SIM and if that didn't work do a factory reset, but I just went back to Handcent instead of messing with all of that.
I hope they come out with GB soon. This is getting ridiculous.
AT&T Sent me to Adroid.com to Download Gingerbread
I was on the phone with AT&T today. Basically, I have been bugging them about my Captivate. Ever since the Froyo upgrade, my Bluetooth has been working sporadically. I have read others with this problem as well.
I started with the first operator that answered as I usually do. I asked him if there was a relaease of 2.3 yet and as usual, I was put on hold. When he came back, the answer was not usual. He directed me to Android.com to download 2.3 and told me that 4.0 was in the works. I found this strange. I asked if this was a process approved by AT&T, he said yes. I asked him if he was putting a comment in my file that he instructed me to do this, again the answer was yes.
I am in the process of preparing my computer to do the upgrade. Has anyone else run into this? I appologize if this has already been covered. This is my first post, but I have been lurking and reading for over a year. Great site!
On Saturday i upgraded to 2.3.3 from Rogers. UNFREAKIN BELIEVABLE.
My battery life on 2.2, used to be at 25-0% by end of day, now im looking at about 70-60% based on usage (still heavy) Wifi works perfectly fine, GPS works better, Googlemaps comes up quicker and is now more accurate.
Text messaging:
+Alerts dissapear after quick view of message
-keyboard not included with Gingerbread update (should be automatic, downloaded an app for this)
-No visual difference between 2.2, and 2.3
Voice:
+Calls are far more clear
+2.3 dials WAY quicker then 2.2
+light sensor works properly on calls and doesnt accidentially turn the phone on in the middle of a call.
Apps:
Ive had to download a couple, right now, im using ADW with a Honeycomb lookalike (works great, and i love the main screen rotation!)
All apps are compatible, not a single crashing issue so far
**BEST OF ALL** FACEBOOK NOW CLOSES AT REQUEST, AND DOESNT EAT YOUR BATTERY!!!!
I have to say, this eliminated just about every concern and issue i had with the original firmware (2.2). Good job Rogers & Samsung!
*sniff sniff* What's that? Is that Gingerbread I smell?
Must be around the corner!
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After waking up today, still sat at 63% battery life. If there was a "LIKE" button for Rogers, i would click it a billion times right now. Woke up, checked email, texted gf, toyed around on market, downloaded a few apps, and still sitting at 55%. Overall, i have to say, this is the BEST update ever.
Sad part is that I read Android Central every day, and alot of these carriers that I've never even heard of are getting Gingerbread to their specific Galaxy S devices before AT&T who has WAY more money to invest in R&D. That is sad.
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After waking up today, still sat at 63% battery life. If there was a "LIKE" button for Rogers, i would click it a billion times right now. Woke up, checked email, texted gf, toyed around on market, downloaded a few apps, and still sitting at 55%. Overall, i have to say, this is the BEST update ever.
I hadn't really looked at my battery life after the Rogers upgrade to Gingerbread as I had got so used to leaving my phone plugged in all the time as I was so afraid of draining my battery through the day. I did a test today and charged my phone overnight and unplugged it at 7:00 am this morning. I used the phone for checking Gmail, work email, twitter, some browsing, sms, a couple of calls and a couple of downloads from the Market. Here I am near 10:00 pm and my battery is still at 45 %!! With 2.2 my phone would have died earlier in the day! something good has changed!
On Saturday i upgraded to 2.3.3 from Rogers. UNFREAKIN BELIEVABLE.
My battery life on 2.2, used to be at 25-0% by end of day, now im looking at about 70-60% based on usage (still heavy) Wifi works perfectly fine, GPS works better, Googlemaps comes up quicker and is now more accurate.
Text messaging:
+Alerts dissapear after quick view of message
-keyboard not included with Gingerbread update (should be automatic, downloaded an app for this)
-No visual difference between 2.2, and 2.3
Voice:
+Calls are far more clear
+2.3 dials WAY quicker then 2.2
+light sensor works properly on calls and doesnt accidentially turn the phone on in the middle of a call.
Apps:
Ive had to download a couple, right now, im using ADW with a Honeycomb lookalike (works great, and i love the main screen rotation!)
All apps are compatible, not a single crashing issue so far
**BEST OF ALL** FACEBOOK NOW CLOSES AT REQUEST, AND DOESNT EAT YOUR BATTERY!!!!
I have to say, this eliminated just about every concern and issue i had with the original firmware (2.2). Good job Rogers & Samsung!
did you have to back up any of your stuff before upgrading?
did you have to back up any of your stuff before upgrading?
Not a single thing was backed up and i havent had a single error. However, im debating on a clean wipe and reinstall all of my applications anyways.
My cappy survived a long 54 hours before dying. This is in comparison to the previous 8-12 hours it was at before. Heavy text messaging, A few calls, downloaded stuff, hit the market, played Angry birds, etc... based off my experience, this should hit every captivate, and roms shouldnt exist. Even running S7 on my old captivate (was sent in for warranty) It was nothing like this.
Not a single thing was backed up and i havent had a single error. However, im debating on a clean wipe and reinstall all of my applications anyways.
My cappy survived a long 54 hours before dying. This is in comparison to the previous 8-12 hours it was at before. Heavy text messaging, A few calls, downloaded stuff, hit the market, played Angry birds, etc... based off my experience, this should hit every captivate, and roms shouldnt exist. Even running S7 on my old captivate (was sent in for warranty) It was nothing like this.
I just downloaded swype today. Never used it before. It works great. What was wrong with it before?
It got worse with Froyo for whatever reason. Impossible to delete words permanently once they are "learned", not possible to eliminate the "tips" window which comes up any time a learned word is not chosen, requiring a few clocks to get back to typing. I'll be happy to hear if this has been solved with gingerbread, as it is it is a brilliant tool that is fatally flawed. Also for no reason that I am aware of the accuracy seemed to get significantly worse with the Froyo update compared to with Eclair, when it was quite good.
Interesting that you "downloaded" it, with AT&T it is bundled and updated only with the system as far as I know.
Curious now that you've had it for a but if you're finding any of these problems or not.
It got worse with Froyo for whatever reason. Impossible to delete words permanently once they are "learned", not possible to eliminate the "tips" window which comes up any time a learned word is not chosen, requiring a few clocks to get back to typing. I'll be happy to hear if this has been solved with gingerbread, as it is it is a brilliant tool that is fatally flawed. Also for no reason that I am aware of the accuracy seemed to get significantly worse with the Froyo update compared to with Eclair, when it was quite good.
Interesting that you "downloaded" it, with AT&T it is bundled and updated only with the system as far as I know.
Curious now that you've had it for a but if you're finding any of these problems or not.
Dave
I have been using it for a few days now. I'm still getting used to it. I have the tips box on to the never setting it won't come up. Unless I type a one letter word. It also predicts my words very well.
I never did actually download it. It was programmed on my phone. Worded it incorrectly.
I have been using it for a few days now. I'm still getting used to it. I have the tips box on to the never setting it won't come up. Unless I type a one letter word. It also predicts my words very well.
I never did actually download it. It was programmed on my phone. Worded it incorrectly.
So if you trace a path of the name of one of your contacts, and then hit the swype key to select a different word, the tips menu doesn't come up? That's promising, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks for the responses.
We're not going to get the official Gingerbread for the Captivate will we?
I am starting to doubt it myself! My wife's Infuse 4G doesn't have it yet either. Kinda ridiculous in my opinion. I wouldn't mind if her got it first as it is a newer phone. This is getting rediculous though, not even a peep from AT&T or Samsung.
when my captivate contract is up I will definitely drop Samsung. Probably will succumb to the iPhone. At least Apple updates their own stuff and does not depend on AT&T either. I will miss the android system but not Samsung.
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AT&T Sent me to Adroid.com to Download Gingerbread
