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Now that 2.3 is officially out (via Android.com) us samsung owners must feel pretty bad. We are officially two firmware releases behind.
Good thing is now that the Nexus S is official and has the same exact specs as our phones I'm sure roms will come quickly for it.
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Maybe devs will get us 2.3 before samsung releases 2.2

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I wonder why they don't just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3. Especially since Samsung and Google worked on the Nexus S together you know they have it already converted to their bloatware version.
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that could potentially become the case..
I mean the nexus s comes out the 16th, so maybe around then we will get 2.3 ???
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that could potentially become the case..
I mean the nexus s comes out the 16th, so maybe around then we will get 2.3 ???
I think you are forgetting what service provider we have. If AT&T has anything to do with the software on the phone, there will be lengthy delays in rolling out updates. We have been promised Froyo, but I wouldn't go so far to hope for Gingerbread for fear of getting my hopes dashed to pieces.
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I think you are forgetting what service provider we have. If AT&T has anything to do with the software on the phone, there will be lengthy delays in rolling out updates. We have been promised Froyo, but I wouldn't go so far to hope for Gingerbread for fear of getting my hopes dashed to pieces.
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wholy shit sony erricsson just got 2.1 2 weeks ago thereabouts,,, so still far ahead of some out there,,
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I think you are forgetting what service provider we have. If AT&T has anything to do with the software on the phone, there will be lengthy delays in rolling out updates. We have been promised Froyo, but I wouldn't go so far to hope for Gingerbread for fear of getting my hopes dashed to pieces.
This would be true for an official Gingerbread release. However, with the Nexus S getting updates so frequently direct from Google, & the hardware between it & our phone so similar, ROM chefs will be able to port the Nexus S builds over to us
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while I didn't root and flash a rom to get froyo early, I will definitely try to get gingerbread on my phone asap.
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I will, without question, be putting the 1st ported Nexus S ROM onto my phone.
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anyone else wonder how the nexus s will perform in quadrant (yeah yeah yeah i know benchmarks dont mean much) considering that it has the same hummingbird processor as our phones.
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anyone else wonder how the nexus s will perform in quadrant (yeah yeah yeah i know benchmarks dont mean much) considering that it has the same hummingbird processor as our phones.
preliminary results show a quadrant score of 8,290,249,876,154 and a half.
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There needs to be an LOL! button on this forum

I'm wondering if they will wait and just give us Gingerbread. I really don't care, ultimately, the phone works fine for me, it's the principle of the thing to me. The longer they take the more crippled I believe it will be - because that's what is taking the time, crippling up the software so we can't root, or tether, or whatever it is they don't want us to do.
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SuperCurio (behind Voodoo kernels) seems to believe Gingerbread from Samsung is a possibility.

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does a single person on here know why they want 2.3?

2.2 is big as it has performance improvements. they have said 2.2 is the last performance update, atleast for awhile. 2.3, and this is a guess, is based mainly on the visual aspects, and thus people like samsung, motorola, htc wont benefit much from it, only phones running vanilla android will. now im not sure on that and i missed any announcement as i had class but i dont know if 2.3 brings anything new and impressive, like the jit compiler and flash did with 2.2
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does a single person on here know why they want 2.3?
Cause it's .1 better than 2.2?

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maybe they'll fix the GPS in 2.3 ...
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In all seriousness though, 2.3 is the latest and the greatest, of course we want it. It isn't like it would be hard for them to do either, Samsung already has it optimized for a mildly different phone from ours- they have all of the drivers, source code, and api's- it would be kind of a slap in the face if they don't give it to us; and yet somehow I can't see them giving a 2.3 update. I will be pleasantly surprised if they do.
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What's new in Android 2.3 'Gingerbread?' Tablets, NFC, Games | Software News - Betanews

so i read this to see what is included in 2.3 and there is next to nothing that will support our phones. it expands android for future phones that will have hardware to accept some of these new features. sure there are a couple of little things but 99% of people will not recognize them. its not a big upgrade like 2.2 is from 2.1. and i understand wanting the newest available os, but it remains that you really wont notice it
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On 6th December 2010, the 2.3 (Gingerbread) SDK was released.




Confirmed new features of 2.3 (Gingerbread):Unconfirmed new features:
  • Improved social networking features[61]
  • Android Market music store[62]
  • Media streaming from PC library[62]
  • Support for bigger screens with up to Wide XGA (1366×768) resolution[63]
  • New 3D Games support including new Marketplace area for gaming
  • Use of mksh for /system/bin/sh[64]
  • Support for video calls
  • Support for WebP image files
  • Support for Google TV
I also see Froyo was released on 1/10 so we sould see 2.3 around 1/12, or later. lol
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1/11 sounds awesome,, thats only a year,, i can wait for non buggy firmware then rushed buggy firmware,, the big joke is everyone complains ,, and all the carriers and manufactures are the same,, so you can switch and run,, and look for greener pastures,, but there will still be shit in the field,,
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Sorry about the typo- I am being facetious, but I meant to type 1/12 (since we're currently a year behind current technology).
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we are,,, how so,,, ?? how many phones already actually have 2.2???
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we are,,, how so,,, ?? how many phones already actually have 2.2???
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well i know for a fact,, that the sony erricson x10 just got 2..1 and others are still on 1.6..

and my email to skype told me that it will be working on the captivate very shortly when i upgrade to 2.2..

and 2.3 just gets released and people want it already

people need to rememeber android is new,, carried over many platforms,,,

its no boring apple with only one phone,,,

if anyone didnt think there would be growing pains with this OS,, need to have another look,,

and if your GPS doesnt work,, send the phone back as my phone is just over a month old and GPS works fine,, only lag is with bloomberg app so far,,,

so there is definetly a fix,,,

boohoo on here isnt going to do you a ounce of good,,,
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Some people (like me) are using the release of 2.3 to harp on Samsung/at&t for not having 2.2 out already. Froyo has been out for a year- the Captivate, half that long. It should have been on there at launch. See what I mean?

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and my email to skype told me that it will be working on the captivate very shortly when i upgrade to 2.2..
Skype runs great on 2.2.... and I'm running the boring leaked build from a few months ago... not some turbocharged developer ROM.
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If you want 2.2 go find a custom ROM. Otherwise you can wait until AT&T gets around to giving you a software update on a phone they already sold that has features like free tethering they don't want you to have. Good luck with that.
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well im still with stock 2.1 and i can and will wait till 2.2 for skype,, but my point being is that skype is expecting it shortly
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well i know for a fact,, that the sony erricson x10 just got 2..1 and others are still on 1.6..

and my email to skype told me that it will be working on the captivate very shortly when i upgrade to 2.2..

and 2.3 just gets released and people want it already

people need to rememeber android is new,, carried over many platforms,,,

its no boring apple with only one phone,,,

if anyone didnt think there would be growing pains with this OS,, need to have another look,,

and if your GPS doesnt work,, send the phone back as my phone is just over a month old and GPS works fine,, only lag is with bloomberg app so far,,,

so there is definetly a fix,,,

boohoo on here isnt going to do you a ounce of good,,,
W ell those figures can be misleading because 90%+/- of those phones not on 2.2 yet are because hardware didn't support it. The X10 is an exception to that, and the rumor is Sony nearly has 2.2 ready for release. The fact is that there was no excuse for the Galaxy S series to be launched outdated like this to begin with, and no excuse for it to have taken a year to write the source code for it...
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I wonder if samsung will be horrible with support on the nexus s
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You betcha! Have they been good about anything thus far?
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funny GPS works wonderful on rogers captivate
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what if suddenly samsung becomes awesome because google forces them
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If you want 2.2 go find a custom ROM. Otherwise you can wait until AT&T gets around to giving you a software update on a phone they already sold that has features like free tethering they don't want you to have. Good luck with that.
And good luck finding a custom rom that works half way decent. Yeah, good luck with that. Great rom, too bad my bluetooth is flaky, my wifi works only half the time and I get an SOD every day.
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Maybe I wouldn't be so.mad if samsung would quit worrying about new phones and would put some support into current models.
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Maybe I wouldn't be so.mad if samsung would quit worrying about new phones and would put some support into current models.
and what makes you think they havnt been,, just maybe, when new FW gets released,, it will work properlly and no bugs,, i would prefer that then the option of release earlier and make my phone crap,,,

as there is no problems with my handset what so ever
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and what makes you think they havnt been,, just maybe, when new FW gets released,, it will work properlly and no bugs,, i would prefer that then the option of release earlier and make my phone crap,,,

as there is no problems with my handset what so ever

Seems the epic got it just fine... seems the i9000 has had it for some time. Seems they were abke to.spend time making flexible led screens and new nexus galaxy s phones and resetting broken gps settings instead of...

Fixing gps
Giving us froyo after missing multiple release dates
jacking up the vibrant with a bad update
by the time they do give us froyo ill already have the nexus s and will have unlocked it for use on att.

Att is getting a ton of blame for us not gettinf froyo but is it really them or is samsung just to damn busy doing other crap to give a damn because they had their biggest 3 quarters in cellular sales in company history? Seems to me they just got another huge payday called the nexus s who gives a crap about the captivate.
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Improved copy & paste is reason alone to desire 2.3. Some of those other items could also be of value to us Captivate owners, however.
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In twelve months I will be phone/carrier shopping. Two names to cross off my list are ATT and samsung.
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Old December 6th, 2010, 11:53 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Improved copy & paste is reason alone to desire 2.3. Some of those other items could also be of value to us Captivate owners, however.
Yeah, I forgot about the copy & paste bit from earlier today, that is worth pressuring Samsung for because it is one of those used-everyday UI things that to have withheld would just be cruel...
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Old December 7th, 2010, 12:39 AM   #44 (permalink)
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The main reason i'm upset about not receiving an update yet (2.2). Is that it was one of the major selling points for me. I'm buying a smartphone. No one want to buy a phone and it's immediately out-of-date! We were promised a update in the near future when the phone was released.
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In twelve months I will be phone/carrier shopping. Two names to cross off my list are ATT and samsung.
I don't really mind at&t's network, but I feel like my next phone, if it is android HAS to be stock android. Not so much to avoid the bloatware, but to get the updates and support from google. Samsung probably screwed up with the galaxy s line, but i doubt that the nexus s will have the gps or lag issues of the galaxy s. I hope google wouldn't settle for something like this in their next flagship phone.
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I don't really mind at&t's network, but I feel like my next phone, if it is android HAS to be stock android. Not so much to avoid the bloatware, but to get the updates and support from google. Samsung probably screwed up with the galaxy s line, but i doubt that the nexus s will have the gps or lag issues of the galaxy s. I hope google wouldn't settle for something like this in their next flagship phone.
I see that you are in syracuse, me wife and I are from syracuse/oswego. We live in cincinnati now and att is absolutely awful here. 3G is non existent downtown and our phones don't work in our house. We live in a suburb.
When we are in upstate ny our call quality and data speeds are top notch.
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ok,, if you are that heartfelt about,,while on here.. dial the toll free number to samsung,, and if everyone starts doing that, it will have a impact,,

and as i have been saying since android came out,, if google doesnt step up to the plate and start giving swift kicks in the ass,, android is doomed to fail, due to fragmentation,,

any phone that has the ability to handle the latest and greatest FW should be made to on a reasonable time frame,, when it gets down to it,, this is googles market to lose,,
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>>> ok,, if you are that heartfelt about,,while on here.. dial the toll free number to samsung,, and if everyone starts doing that, it will have a impact,,

Not. As I've written before...

1. It should be illegal to use the words "Samsung" and "support" in the same sentence.

2. The next time you have the urge to call Samsung, opt for a root canal instead. It's more beneficial and less painful.

The sad part is that I'm not trying to be funny.
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well after reading your post, i googled samsung canada, phoned the 800 number,, was on hold for 5 minutes(which i find totally acceptable),, got a live person she said she had no idea about update if or when and for me to keep checking the website,, I told her that was unacceptable and i wanted to speak to someone higher up about lack of information to the customer,, so i was transfered,, on hold again,, maybe 10 mins,, was on with a manager and i was informed that Rogers and Bell customers will recieve update middle of december, then i questioned about being 2 FWs behind and future updates past 2.2 , the reply was there is no formal announcement as of yet,, but after all carriers have 2.2 out,, there is a announcement prepared, and also said that this phone is not a short term project

so i found samsung canada to be very forth comming and helpful
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