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Old February 24th, 2011, 08:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So, after reading several complaints about the all new, bad a$$ Froyo...who will actually try to go back to 2.1??

I'm lucky to be on a custom ROM and plan on staying there. I just find it funny that so many people were hyped up for Froyo only to be totally let down.

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Lol.. I am going back to 2.1 as we speak.

The new rom I want to reload suggest flashing back to stock first
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You know, as a former captivate user who was disgruntled and went to the nexus one, I have to say I made the right choice. I had nothing but issues with my captivate (random power offs, GPS nonexistant, no support). Since my nexus, no issues. Also, I just updated to 2.3.3 (stock) when captivate users are just now on 2.2. I will NEVER buy another Samsung product.
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The new rom I want to reload suggest flashing back to stock first
Technically 2.2 is the new stock.
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I was lucky to get into the Captivate game late (November) so I have never really had any issues with my phone. GPS is a bit strange but I don't reley on that at all. I for one am really liking 2.2 and will not be going back to 2.1.
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I'm happy with mine, too, got it in October and haven't had a single issue with it.

I also had no problems using mini kies to upgrade from a Win7 64-bit machine. Mail apps are faster, book apps are faster, browsing is faster. It's been a very good experience.
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I'm happy with mine, too, got it in October and haven't had a single issue with it.

I also had no problems using mini kies to upgrade from a Win7 64-bit machine. Mail apps are faster, book apps are faster, browsing is faster. It's been a very good experience.

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I was lucky to get into the Captivate game late (November) so I have never really had any issues with my phone. GPS is a bit strange but I don't reley on that at all. I for one am really liking 2.2 and will not be going back to 2.1.

I got mine in October, had no problems in Eclair. Update went without a hitch, liking Froyo even though I didnt have bad lag before. Overall very happy 2.2.
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I think before I put my Captivate on ebay, Ill flash a custom rom. To me, the "stock froyo" is not worth it.
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I am running a custom rom right now but I haven't updated my wife's phone yet.
Why is "stock froyo" not worth it? It should be a lot better than 2.1 was.
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Personally, 2.2 is a LOT better for me. I like the new additions to it. It feels faster with less lag. I'll eventually go custom sometime in the future but for now, we're pretty good.

What I DON'T like about 2.2 is my battery life is still crappy.
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This can get better with custom roms. Just read up on them. I am using paragon rc6 and my battery lasts all day without needing a charge.
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i love this phone and i have compared with many of my friends phone from many diferent carriers and they always love my better.
this are real life tests of how nice the phones are not the geeky stuff
and this phone is amazing
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Well is the Nexus S actually a samsung made product as well? If it is then this is just more proof that while samsung can make sone nice hardware, they are complete idiots when it comes to software.
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I've had my Captivate over 7 months. Trouble free & fast from the beginning.

It's important to remember only those with problems will seek out a forum. The second type here are those that are enthusiasts and buy Android because it's open and not restricted.

I am _not_ sticking up for Samsung, but I want to clarify one thing.

When you buy your phone from a carrier (any carrier), they have a huge amount of influence over the software that comes on the phone. That's why different carriers put their own proprietary software apps on the phone.

Samsung does _work together with the carriers demands since the carrier is Samsungs customer. Never forget that.

Therefore before you blame Samsung or any other phone maker, you need to know both sides of the story. This is the information that's next to impossible to get.

This is why Googles Samsung gets all the latest updates, because Google _wants you to have them FREE.

When Froyo v 2.2 was ready months ago for the Captivate, there was a huge confrontation since AT&T wants to SELL you stuff, not give it away free. AT&T has always been bad about OS updating, way back to my BlackBerry Days.

Therefore the bottom line is BEFORE you bash a person or company you'd better get your facts straight. Otherwise it's you that looks bad.

Finally _again_ I'm not advocating for any carrier or brand. I use several of each myself. My first hand experience reveals this is an industry wide issue.

All that aside, I find Android 2.1 or later a very outstanding Mobile OS. Android is my favorite smartphone by far.

It makes my iPhone 4 look like a fisher price toy.

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you know, as a former captivate user who was disgruntled and went to the nexus one, i have to say i made the right choice. I had nothing but issues with my captivate (random power offs, gps nonexistant, no support). Since my nexus, no issues. Also, i just updated to 2.3.3 (stock) when captivate users are just now on 2.2. I will never buy another samsung product.
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Well is the Nexus S actually a samsung made product as well? If it is then this is just more proof that while samsung can make sone nice hardware, they are complete idiots when it comes to software.
the nexus s is a google phone, therefore it is stock android, and therefore it comes from google. so youre saying google are complete idiots when it comes to software, and you have a phone running off of google software
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I've had my Captivate over 7 months. Trouble free & fast from the beginning.

It's important to remember only those with problems will seek out a forum. The second type here are those that are enthusiasts and buy Android because it's open and not restricted.

I am _not_ sticking up for Samsung, but I want to clarify one thing.

When you buy your phone from a carrier (any carrier), they have a huge amount of influence over the software that comes on the phone. That's why different carriers put their own proprietary software apps on the phone.

Samsung does _work together with the carriers demands since the carrier is Samsungs customer. Never forget that.

Therefore before you blame Samsung or any other phone maker, you need to know both sides of the story. This is the information that's next to impossible to get.

This is why Googles Samsung gets all the latest updates, because Google _wants you to have them FREE.

When Froyo v 2.2 was ready months ago for the Captivate, there was a huge confrontation since AT&T wants to SELL you stuff, not give it away free. AT&T has always been bad about OS updating, way back to my BlackBerry Days.

Therefore the bottom line is BEFORE you bash a person or company you'd better get your facts straight. Otherwise it's you that looks bad.

Finally _again_ I'm not advocating for any carrier or brand. I use several of each myself. My first hand experience reveals this is an industry wide issue.

All that aside, I find Android 2.1 or later a very outstanding Mobile OS. Android is my favorite smartphone by far.

It makes my iPhone 4 look like a fisher price toy.

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Personally, 2.2 is a LOT better for me. I like the new additions to it. It feels faster with less lag. I'll eventually go custom sometime in the future but for now, we're pretty good.

What I DON'T like about 2.2 is my battery life is still crappy.

I'm also happy with Froyo coming from stock. Any application could be using battery power. I had great life with mine then I installed a few things. It isn't what it was, but I know it's something I did and not the fault of the phone.
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This can get better with custom roms. Just read up on them. I am using paragon rc6 and my battery lasts all day without needing a charge.
Yeah... I'm running Andromeda. The only day I got really bad battery drain, was downtown LA in a doctor's office. Was there from 10:00 until 1:30. Had anywhere from 0 signal bars, to 1. So it spent the whole time, trying to search for a signal. My phone was at like 33% by the time I left (from 99%).

Yesterday, I got almost 48 hours out of a charge, with what would be medium use, for me.
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My "nevers" may suck but not nearly as bad as your reading skills. I have a Nexus One made by HTC, not a Nexus S.
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New Froyo is awesome.

No one cares you're going back to 2.1.
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You know, as a former captivate user who was disgruntled and went to the nexus one, I have to say I made the right choice. I had nothing but issues with my captivate (random power offs, GPS nonexistant, no support). Since my nexus, no issues. Also, I just updated to 2.3.3 (stock) when captivate users are just now on 2.2. I will NEVER buy another Samsung product.
All who love their captivate, well bless you but I have never looked back.
Since moving from Captivate to Incredible, I never had any issues w/GPS. Never lost signal, not once. It's something I never have to think about now. And I didn't have to wait and wait and wait for other things that other phones already had long ago.

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Happy now.
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Just saying. 2.2 is pretty beautiful...it might have bugs and problems and stuff, and that's what Cognition 4.1 fixes. At which point, you have the phone you always wanted. It's based off the official 2.2 release, too, so yeah, you guys should go check it out...
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not going back to 2.1, froyo is a good upgrade as far as i see it.
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Just saying. 2.2 is pretty beautiful...it might have bugs and problems and stuff, and that's what Cognition 4.1 fixes. At which point, you have the phone you always wanted. It's based off the official 2.2 release, too, so yeah, you guys should go check it out...
I'm sure it is..but it's still 2.2 without BT voice dialing, unless I'm mistaken..so I'd probably be moving on to something with 2.2.1
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Froyo is working perfectly fine for me.

I liked some of the comments above, and think that people hold too much resentment over these issues. Honestly, the only thing I disliked was the constant teasing.

Announce a product when it's ready. Otherwise STFU.
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Yea, I'm flashing back to stock 2.1, but just so I can flash Cognition 4.
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New Froyo is awesome.

No one cares you're going back to 2.1.
I hope that wasn't directed at me as the OP. I was merely asking a question! I have been on a custom ROM from day 1 of having my Cappy and LOVE IT. Serendipity 5.12 right now with Paragon's kernel using some slight UV - SWEET combo!

Going back to 2.1 from that???? NOT ME!!
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I am enjoying 2.2 so far. It goes in and out of widget -App much better. Mail seems to be working much better. I'm pretty happy.
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Why do you have to flash back to 2.1 to flash a custom ROM when 2.2 is an official update?
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Why do you have to flash back to 2.1 to flash a custom ROM when 2.2 is an official update?

Because I have no interest in installing the official update. I need to flash back because I have an old version of Cognition with a recovery env that only installs signed ROM images. I think that most people flashing from a recent version of Cognition can just install it on top of the old one. This issue was fixed a long time ago but I've just been lazy in updating.
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I'm not going back because I never upgraded in the first place and probably won't until 2.2.1. Let all the bleeding edge types find the bugs and AT&T/Samsung fix them.

That and the only thing that would cause me to upgrade would be BT voice dial which supposedly is in 2.1.1 but not 2.1.
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I'm not going back because I never upgraded in the first place and probably won't until 2.2.1. Let all the bleeding edge types find the bugs and AT&T/Samsung fix them.

That and the only thing that would cause me to upgrade would be BT voice dial which supposedly is in 2.2.1 but not 2.2.
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I'm not going back because I never upgraded in the first place and probably won't until 2.2.1. Let all the bleeding edge types find the bugs and AT&T/Samsung fix them.

That and the only thing that would cause me to upgrade would be BT voice dial which supposedly is in 2.1.1 but not 2.1.
I understand an initial reluctance to upgrade while awaiting feedback from bleeding edge experiences. Heck, I offered that as a "tip" twice in the days preceding Froyo's official release. But if you're waiting for Samsung to fix bugs (other than showstoppers, which I haven't read about) well, it may be a long, long wait. You may have to draw your personal line in the sand and either be content with Eclair, upgrade to a less-than-perfect Froyo, or load a custom ROM.

But you already knew that, didn't you.
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Old March 1st, 2011, 06:45 PM   #40 (permalink)
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There are some issues that won't be fixed by Froyo but it sounds like overall it is an upgrade. Why would you want to go back to 2.1? There are no advantages of 2.1 over 2.2. I'm using a custom ROM and have been from the start, as the updates from independent (super awesome) developers come way faster than waiting for AT&T to figure out how to monetize the next update and make you wait so long you salivate over it like a hungry dog.
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Old March 1st, 2011, 07:14 PM   #41 (permalink)
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why would you wanna go back!? all this complaining for 2.2 and now we want back!? i like 2.2 personally and if you dont why not just try a custom rom?

also the 2.3 roms will be coming out soon as it was recently leaked so we have that to look forward to also
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I understand an initial reluctance to upgrade while awaiting feedback from bleeding edge experiences. Heck, I offered that as a "tip" twice in the days preceding Froyo's official release. But if you're waiting for Samsung to fix bugs (other than showstoppers, which I haven't read about) well, it may be a long, long wait. You may have to draw your personal line in the sand and either be content with Eclair, upgrade to a less-than-perfect Froyo, or load a custom ROM.

But you already knew that, didn't you.
Full disclosure. I'm an old fart. I use my phone to make and receive calls, send an occasional text, occasionally access the internet, take a few pics or use GPS. For me 2.1 works fine for those things. I would like to have BT voice dial which no one has said works with 2.1 or 2.2 and Captivate. But you're probably right about a long long wait. My contract isn't up for 1.5 years. If they haven't updated it by then I'll switch phones and carriers.
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Old farts often garner respect.

I'm enamored by your adoption of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude. Good for you.
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