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Old August 17th, 2010, 11:19 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Perhaps it actually IS a hardware issue and Samsung is working on a firmware/software work-around that will resolve the problem enough that GPS will work properly on all phones (if not necessarily the way it really should work). I'm okay with this as long as it works.
Same here. I'm only spending time in the Epic forum because I would like to have one sometime and believe it is a great device. If Samsung gets a fix out that makes GPS work, I don't care how they did it.

The deciding factor for us holdouts will be the user reviews right here in this forum from real world scenarios. I'm anxiously awaiting word from those brave souls that have already decided to drop $250 on the device and let the rest of us know if it works or not. Thanks in advance!

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The deciding factor for us holdouts will be the user reviews right here in this forum from real world scenarios. I'm anxiously awaiting word from those brave souls that have already decided to drop $250 on the device and let the rest of us know if it works or not. Thanks in advance!
Be expecting one from me, with a special emphasis on GPS performance. Though I am expecting that even if I got stellar results, dietcoke will still cry foul, I guess we'll see.
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I'll keep saying what I've always been saying.

Galaxy S phones have serious GPS problems.

AND...

Everyone has a different opinion on what is a "working GPS".

SO.....

Download GPS Test by Chartcross from the Android Market

List your Satellites "In View", "In Use", and "Accuracy".

If some people consider a defective GPS that get's zero satellite locks but gets them 200 foot accuracy works for them, then fine. But others expect a working GPS with 12 In View, 12 In Use, and 6 foot Accuracy.
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http://androidforums.com/1392444-post20.html

Samsung says the GPS issue is fixed, done, finished, no more worries.
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I'll keep saying what I've always been saying.

Galaxy S phones have serious GPS problems.

AND...

Everyone has a different opinion on what is a "working GPS".

SO.....

Download GPS Test by Chartcross from the Android Market

List your Satellites "In View", "In Use", and "Accuracy".

If some people consider a defective GPS that get's zero satellite locks but gets them 200 foot accuracy works for them, then fine. But others expect a working GPS with 12 In View, 12 In Use, and 6 foot Accuracy.
If the GPS does what is needed then who the eff cares! If it does what is needed then wouldn't that be considered 'working'?
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If the GPS does what is needed then who the eff cares! If it does what is needed then wouldn't that be considered 'working'?
Yes but people have different ideas of what it needs to do. Some want to geotag photos, some use it to check in at places, some people want accurate turn by turn directions with accuracy to within 10m or less. It all depends.
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If the GPS does what is needed then who the eff cares! If it does what is needed then wouldn't that be considered 'working'?
Huh?! Sorry, but the Samsung Galaxy S phones not getting a lock on one satellite or at most TWO is not ACCEPTABLE. Here's a lesson for you:
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A GPS receiver calculates its position by precisely timing the signals sent by GPS satellites high above the Earth. Each satellite continually transmits messages that include
the time the message was transmitted
precise orbital information
Three satellites might seem enough to solve for position, since space has three dimensions and a position near the Earth's surface can be assumed. However, even a very small clock error multiplied by the very large speed of light[34] — the speed at which satellite signals propagate — results in a large positional error. Therefore receivers use four or more satellites to solve for the receiver's location and time.
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Huh?! Sorry, but the Samsung Galaxy S phones not getting a lock on one satellite or at most TWO is not ACCEPTABLE. Here's a lesson for you:
Where in my post did I say 2? I am pretty sure you are pulling numbers out of your backside there. I will ask again, If GPS in the Epic does what it is supposed to wouldn't that be considered working? If something doing what it is supposed to do isn't considered working then what is?
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Where in my post did I say 2? I am pretty sure you are pulling numbers out of your backside there. I will ask again, If GPS in the Epic does what it is supposed to wouldn't that be considered working? If something doing what it is supposed to do isn't considered working then what is?
I really hate discussing a topic with someone that doesn't know what they're talking about, but who act like it. Look who took the time to make these threads and do some informative research. Pretty sure you're the one talking out of your backside.

http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/148240-how-good-your-gps.html

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?
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I really hate discussing a topic with someone that doesn't know what they're talking about, but who act like it. Look who took the time to make these threads and do some informative research. Pretty sure you're the one talking out of your backside.

http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/148240-how-good-your-gps.html

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?
All this proves is that you are a crazy person with way too much time on their hands. Look I don't know why you don't want to drop this, but it is simple really.

These are the FACTS concerning the EPIC (not any other phone):

The reviews that have been published say the GPS issue is fixed. We don't really know if that is 100% accurate or not, but it is all we have. That's it!

The FACTS regarding the other SGS phones:

We have Samsung publicly admiting that there is something wrong and commiting to fix the issue by sept.

We have a leaked Samsung rom/firmware that seems to greatly improve the GPS performance of those that try it.

That's it!

If you want to draw any conclusions from that feel free, but I think I speak for everyone here when I say that we get it...You don't think they will fix it and have made it your mission in life to convince others of the same thing. Now that we know that, please go away!
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The reviews that have been published say the GPS issue is fixed.
Wrong.

Samsung Galaxy S GPS-gate: two problems, not one (and what to do about it) -- Engadget
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Engadget says they do not know, at this time, if the Epic is suffering from the same problem, they will be "working to nail it down". Learn to read.
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Dietcoke, why are you even in our forum? Jeez, running around like chicken frickin little dooming our not even released phone because you are not happy with yours seems quite odd to all of us. These Galaxy S phones are very similar, but not exactly the same. Do you understand that? It is possibile that the Epic is fixed. And that is what we are hearing from the professionals. We know all about your baseless OPINION, seeing as you do not even have an Epic. For now though, how about you wait till the phone comes out to declare the sky is still falling.
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I really hate discussing a topic with someone that doesn't know what they're talking about, but who act like it. Look who took the time to make these threads and do some informative research. Pretty sure you're the one talking out of your backside.

http://androidforums.com/htc-incredible/148240-how-good-your-gps.html

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?

How good is your GPS?
I agree that this just makes you look like a crazy person with no life. I also never said I knew what I was talking about or didn't know. So if you are going to respond to what I post how about you don't just post random crap that I wasn't even talking about or refrencing.

I believe the question still at hand for you is; If the GPS does what it is supposed to then wouldn't that be considered working?
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Yes but people have different ideas of what it needs to do. Some want to geotag photos, some use it to check in at places, some people want accurate turn by turn directions with accuracy to within 10m or less. It all depends.
What's your point? If you wanted it to do turn by turn directions and it did wouldn't that be considered working? Or if you wanted it to geotag photos and it did wouldn't that be considered working?

My point for dietcoke was that he doesn't know if it does or doesn't do these things. If it does then wouldn't that be 'working'. He doesn't know one way or the other. Just like the rest of us.
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Good news everyone!

Samsung says GPS is 'tested and validated' on Epic 4G, our testing agrees

Sounds great, but I'm still waiting for some real world tests.
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Google: "GPS Issues"

sorry for whatever comes up in the results. (it's all about the Samsung Epic- and it's not let's all hold hands it works perfectly).
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Google: "GPS Issues"

sorry for whatever comes up in the results. (it's all about the Samsung Epic- and it's not let's all hold hands it works perfectly).
Just a tip, next time actually do it before suggesting it and predicting the outcome?


For me personally the first relevant result of the search was rather reassuring (not so much for those with a Vibrant or Captivate though).
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