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Old September 1st, 2010, 04:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Mad 8 MP/1.3 MP Evo camera vs. 5 MP/VGA Epic camera

I own the Evo now and my main concern with upgrading to the Epic is the lower resolution cameras on both sides of the device.

My secondary concern is the YouTube app. I watch tons of YouTube on my Evo and I've heard that the Epic does not support Youtube videos in HQ quality.

I'm also curious to know if the battery life is significantly better than the Evo. As awesome as the Evo is, battery life is one of the departments it is lacking in.

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It does support the HQ, you just have to press menu, view in HQ.

As for the camera, stills from the 5MP are as good as the EVO, and the Epic's 720p video is better. EVO indoors barely breaks 11fps, Epic is much smoother.
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It does support the HQ, you just have to press menu, view in HQ.

As for the camera, stills from the 5MP are as good as the EVO, and the Epic's 720p video is better. EVO indoors barely breaks 11fps, Epic is much smoother.
How about the front-facing camera? And I've taken 720p videos with my Evo and they didn't look that stunning to be honest.

The biggest selling point for me with the Epic is the QWERTY physical keyboard. Texting is okay on the Evo due to it's large screen, but I still find myself making frequent mistakes. I've owned other QWERTY Sprint texting phones like the LG Rumor 2 and LG Rumor Touch and I texted just fine on them.
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Wasn't impressed with the front camera on the EVO to be honest. My old iPhone 4 was much smoother and worked a lot better indoors.
Haven't tested the Epic's yet since my gf broke her EVO and we can't do fring anymore, but I will when I get home.

Also don't get me wrong, the EVO is a great phone, but the camera on it didn't impress me at all.
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How about the front-facing camera? And I've taken 720p videos with my Evo and they didn't look that stunning to be honest.

The biggest selling point for me with the Epic is the QWERTY physical keyboard. Texting is okay on the Evo due to it's large screen, but I still find myself making frequent mistakes. I've owned other QWERTY Sprint texting phones like the LG Rumor 2 and LG Rumor Touch and I texted just fine on them.
I really really like the keyboard, it has the 4 dedicated android buttons, it is very spaced out, to be honest it is the best keyboard I have used on a phone, hardware wise. I use the keyboard to play emulators suck as Snesnoid and I have dedicated buttons on it for the best playing experience. For example, super mario bros in landscape widescreen is amazing
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I really really like the keyboard, it has the 4 dedicated android buttons, it is very spaced out, to be honest it is the best keyboard I have used on a phone, hardware wise. I use the keyboard to play emulators suck as Snesnoid and I have dedicated buttons on it for the best playing experience. For example, super mario bros in landscape widescreen is amazing
There one thing the Evo has better than the Epic, though... Froyo.
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There one thing the Evo has better than the Epic, though... Froyo.
When are they planning to get Froyo on the Epic? Anyone know?
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Ok I just swapped my Evo to the Epic today. Boy am I impressed!!! The HD video camera actually looks like High Definition. As far as stills go its about the same. The keyboard is slick the screen is accurate and the biggest difference I've noticed is how much faster it is! Not to mention the amazing screen quality. All around waaaay better than my Evo, and its only day one
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Does anyone have any comparison photos and videos between the two device's cameras? Both front and back would be nice.
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Epic takes very nice flash photos.
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There one thing the Evo has better than the Epic, though... Froyo.
Why? The Epic is faster on 2.1 than the EVO is with 2.2. With my EVO, I still had pretty choppy browsing when panning\zooming. Games run exactly the same on 2.2 as they did on 2.1. Oh... but it helped non-graphics intensive benchmarks (who cares?)...

There's very little that froyo has to offer for the Epic. I'm more looking forward to the GPS fix...
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Why? The Epic is faster on 2.1 than the EVO is with 2.2. With my EVO, I still had pretty choppy browsing when panning\zooming.
Until you use data while multitasking. There is plenty of improvement 2.2 should bring. Not that you are wrong that the gps fix is more important. That is basic functionality.
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I did a comparison between the cameras. The Epic wins in both stills and 720p video recording. The Evo wins in front-facing camera stills. I asked a friend which front-facing camera they liked better and they said the Evo. From what I saw, the VGA image looked similar to the 1.3 MP image on the Evo, but it was significantly smaller.
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I prefer the camera on the epic so far for both recording and stills
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To me the second worst thing on the Evo video recorder (the first being low fps when not in perfect lighting conditions) is the horrible audio quality. I've heard the audio quality on the Epic is much better - can anyone who has done side-by-side comparisons comment?
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To me the second worst thing on the Evo video recorder (the first being low fps when not in perfect lighting conditions) is the horrible audio quality. I've heard the audio quality on the Epic is much better - can anyone who has done side-by-side comparisons comment?
I have done side by side comparisons.

Videos taken with the Epic are MUCH better, both video frame rate (especially in lower light) and audio. The flip side has been that the Evo takes better (sharper, more detail) still pictures.
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I have done side by side comparisons.

Videos taken with the Epic are MUCH better, both video frame rate (especially in lower light) and audio. The flip side has been that the Evo takes better (sharper, more detail) still pictures.
I disagree regarding the stills. In my experience, the Epic is far superior in both video and stills. The megapixels have nothing to do with it. I had my Evo next to an Epic on display at my Sprint store. Pointed both phones at the same thing and snapped some pics. The Epic's photos were awesome. The Evo's were washed out and grainy. The Epics' pics were a bit darker, but I suspect this is because OLEDs have a dynamic contrast range lower in brightness than that of LCD (I'm talking about range, not ratio). But if you take both Evo and Epic photos off the phones and onto a calibrated monitor, you will see that the Epic's photos have much better contrast and exposure, and most importantly, less noise/grain.

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Wasn't impressed with the front camera on the EVO to be honest. My old iPhone 4 was much smoother and worked a lot better indoors.
Haven't tested the Epic's yet since my gf broke her EVO and we can't do fring anymore, but I will when I get home.

Also don't get me wrong, the EVO is a great phone, but the camera on it didn't impress me at all.
I love everything Else on the EVO EXCEPT the Camera, What a major disappointment. Compared to the Epic, the Evo camera seems like a major flaw. I had taken this one video outside with lots of light and the audio was out of sync with the video.. Horrible.

Some pictures and memories are really important, so I'll stick with the Epic until EVO fixes its horrible camera.
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Did a videochat between the Epic and EVO yesterday. The Epic's front camera is better in low light than the EVO. I just wish I could record video from it for MMS.
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Laptop Magazine's blog did a nice side-by-side comparison. Here's the page that deals with the cameras:

Superphone Face-Off: HTC Evo 4G vs. Samsung Epic 4G

Basically their opinion was that the Epic was better for both stills and video. But based on viewing those pix and videos myself, I'd have to say it's more of a personal taste thing.
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Did a videochat between the Epic and EVO yesterday. The Epic's front camera is better in low light than the EVO. I just wish I could record video from it for MMS.
Marginal different if at all, I never noticed. BUT what is very noticeable is the massive distortion on the epic ffc.

There is also significantly more shutter lag on the epic camera system in general, which negatively affects it in all situations.
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I've just noticed that one cannot record video using the front-facing camera. On the Evo you could record VGA quality video using the front camera.

Also, how do I make the browser stop loading web pages in WAP. The browser will always use a WAP version of a web page whenever one is avaliable instead of full HTML. I didn't buy my carrier's top phone to be browsing WAP pages, after all.
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The Epic's cameras seem to work better for me as well in still and video modes. The EVO's FFC may look better on paper, but it has a strange lag to it and it just doesn't cut it for me... epic's does a lot better, especially in low light!
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In case anyone was wondering, the distortion from the front facing cam on Epic while video calling is actually caused by the Qik application. Qik is supposed to release an update that will remedy the problem.

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The megapixels have nothing to do with it.
Exactly.

Megapixels are now just marketing hype. What is important at this point is the size of the pixels, not the number of pixels. Pixel size is related to the size of the processor chip/sensor. After a point, more pixels on the same size sensor actually degrades picture quality, especially in low light.
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lol really? I had the Epic for 2 weeks and couldnt last another day with it. I think the Evo is waaaay better... the slide out keyboard on the Epic sucks... when I would type, it would skip over letters. so my texts came out like "hy whats p" and i know for sure it wasnt just my phone because the ones in the store did it too. There was also forums about it. The screen is really good on the Epic though. I found it always to be darkish though...it doesnt seem like everything was as bright on that phone...I think the Epic in general is too dark. Everything is black, black, black on that phone. The video recording (at least indoors) doesnt do that good of a job on the Evo. i never tested it on the Epic though, so idk. When i had the Epic and i was messing with the Evo, i found that the home screen switching on the Evo was better. It's just smoother.
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I was looking at some video tests on the Epic and Evo the other day and was shocked how bad the HD of the Evo was. Here is a video a guy took of his car, just looks like a big wall of black, can't see any of the body lines or where the doors or at, nothing. Just one big black blob.

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lol really? I had the Epic for 2 weeks and couldnt last another day with it. I think the Evo is waaaay better... the slide out keyboard on the Epic sucks... when I would type, it would skip over letters. so my texts came out like "hy whats p" and i know for sure it wasnt just my phone because the ones in the store did it too. There was also forums about it. The screen is really good on the Epic though. I found it always to be darkish though...it doesnt seem like everything was as bright on that phone...I think the Epic in general is too dark. Everything is black, black, black on that phone. The video recording (at least indoors) doesnt do that good of a job on the Evo. i never tested it on the Epic though, so idk. When i had the Epic and i was messing with the Evo, i found that the home screen switching on the Evo was better. It's just smoother.
Its all about how you use it. The keyboard is being reviewed as one of the best ever on a mobile phone. I had a sidekick, A Helio, and pretty much any other serious keyboard phone and the Epic rules them all.
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personal choice, I had the evo camera before the i had got the epic and i love the epic camera. One of the problem i had with the evo was how the pictures i had taken looked horrid...and this is with settings changed.
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