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Old September 15th, 2010, 09:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking for a simple data toggle I can put on the home screen to turn data on/off with one press. I dont need multiple button for Bt, wifi, Gps because of the touchwiz drop down. Anyone using one with any kind of luck?
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Old September 15th, 2010, 12:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Download Juice defender. You will then see under the widgets list "Toggle Mobile Data", thats what you're looking for
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Old September 15th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply. I am using Juice defender and do have the toggle on the home screen but I dont find JD automatic options necessary and would rather just do it manualy. So I dont want JD running and using the battery when I can just toggle it myself. It is a cool app though. The reviews on the app store for some of the data toggles are not good.
Just wondering if someone has a tested toggle for the epic.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 01:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply. I am using Juice defender and do have the toggle on the home screen but I dont find JD automatic options necessary and would rather just do it manualy. So I dont want JD running and using the battery when I can just toggle it myself. It is a cool app though. The reviews on the app store for some of the data toggles are not good.
Just wondering if someone has a tested toggle for the epic.
Plz give input.
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Switch pro 4 manual.

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either that or JD has a widget you can put on your homescreen.
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+1 /\ Above post.. I use switch pro great for data toggle
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Old September 15th, 2010, 02:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Quick Settings is free and doesn't take up home screen space - you can set a shortcut in the notification bar and/or by holding down the search button.

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Quick Settings is free and doesn't take up home screen space - you can set a shortcut in the notification bar and/or by holding down the search button.

Hey what are you using to get the date in your status bar??? I want that! Thanks
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Thanks for the reply. I am using Juice defender and do have the toggle on the home screen but I dont find JD automatic options necessary and would rather just do it manualy. So I dont want JD running and using the battery when I can just toggle it myself. It is a cool app though. The reviews on the app store for some of the data toggles are not good.
Just wondering if someone has a tested toggle for the epic.
Plz give input.
Thanks Dug13
The juice defender widget is a toggle button! Its exactly what you said you wanted. If you don't want juice defender to run and drain battery, you simply hit the disable button inside the juice defender app. You will only be left with your manual toggle button which turns off/on your data whenever you wish!

So ther you have it, a free toggle for the epic that works!
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Hey what are you using to get the date in your status bar??? I want that! Thanks
It's called "Date In Tray." Very useful - you can have it like I do or it can take up more space and write out the whole date.
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Ok I think i found what i was looking for its called DCSWITCH. Search the market for it. It is simple one icon toggle that seems to be working so far.
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In all honesty, unless you have something aggressively going online nonstop, it probably takes MORE power to have 3G networking attempts fail than to just allow them to occur and succeed quickly. Nothing will kill your battery dead faster than wi-fi, and GPS consumes shocking amounts of power (or at least the massive amounts of floating-point math needed to calculate a location based on telemetry data... the actual telemetry reception doesn't take much power, either), but you have to remember -- your phone is polling the tower for incoming calls and text messages every second or few anyway, and sending a few hundred extra bytes to make a http request every now and then isn't going to make a measurable difference to your battery life anyway.

Here's what people THINK happens when you turn off 3G data:

* Background service that polls a server every now and then wakes up, checks networking status, sees it's disabled, and goes back to sleep for another hour or more.

Here's what tends to happen instead in the real world:

* phone polls tower every second or two for new incoming call

* app attempts to send http request. Request fails, because network is disabled. App catches exception, then aggressively retries the request over and over again 10 or 20 times before finally giving up.

* Normally, app polls server once an hour or so... but because the request failed, the app goes into panic mode, and tries again a minute later instead.

* Stir, rinse, and repeat.

In other words, instead of waking up the phone for a few hundred milliseconds, sending a short extra burst of data, listening in for the response, and completing whatever it intended to do quickly so the phone can go back to sleep, it's actively flogging the phone over and over again trying desperately to succeed, and using more power in failing than it would have taken to just succeed quickly and get it over with. Even worse, you might induce an app that wakes up long enough to make a single http request every 15-60 minutes to keep trying, over and over again, at 1-5 minute intervals until it either succeeds or drains the battery.

Of course, a well-behaved app probably wouldn't flog the phone and thrash like that if the request failed. And I'm sure that out of the 70,000 or so apps you can get from Android market, there are 3 or 4 that actually DO behave themselves. It's the other 69,994 that you need to worry about ;-)
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Old September 16th, 2010, 02:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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In all honesty, unless you have something aggressively going online nonstop, it probably takes MORE power to have 3G networking attempts fail than to just allow them to occur and succeed quickly. Nothing will kill your battery dead faster than wi-fi, and GPS consumes shocking amounts of power (or at least the massive amounts of floating-point math needed to calculate a location based on telemetry data... the actual telemetry reception doesn't take much power, either), but you have to remember -- your phone is polling the tower for incoming calls and text messages every second or few anyway, and sending a few hundred extra bytes to make a http request every now and then isn't going to make a measurable difference to your battery life anyway.

Here's what people THINK happens when you turn off 3G data:

* Background service that polls a server every now and then wakes up, checks networking status, sees it's disabled, and goes back to sleep for another hour or more.

Here's what tends to happen instead in the real world:

* phone polls tower every second or two for new incoming call

* app attempts to send http request. Request fails, because network is disabled. App catches exception, then aggressively retries the request over and over again 10 or 20 times before finally giving up.

* Normally, app polls server once an hour or so... but because the request failed, the app goes into panic mode, and tries again a minute later instead.

* Stir, rinse, and repeat.

In other words, instead of waking up the phone for a few hundred milliseconds, sending a short extra burst of data, listening in for the response, and completing whatever it intended to do quickly so the phone can go back to sleep, it's actively flogging the phone over and over again trying desperately to succeed, and using more power in failing than it would have taken to just succeed quickly and get it over with. Even worse, you might induce an app that wakes up long enough to make a single http request every 15-60 minutes to keep trying, over and over again, at 1-5 minute intervals until it either succeeds or drains the battery.

Of course, a well-behaved app probably wouldn't flog the phone and thrash like that if the request failed. And I'm sure that out of the 70,000 or so apps you can get from Android market, there are 3 or 4 that actually DO behave themselves. It's the other 69,994 that you need to worry about ;-)
In all sincerity, you seem to be well informed - but is your quantitative evidence as good as your qualitative postulation? I would love to see if you could show through calculations that the background processes w/no data connection drain the battery at a faster rate than an active CDMA radio. It's just that my own experience and many I've heard suggests otherwise.

Edit: Speak of the devil, there's an active thread on AC about this.
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In all honesty, unless you have something aggressively going online nonstop, it probably takes MORE power to have 3G networking attempts fail than to just allow them to occur and succeed quickly. Nothing will kill your battery dead faster than wi-fi,
Untrue.

Having a radio on, be it 3G, 4G, WiFi, ... with no or poor signal is the battery drain. If you have WiFi in your house, I challenge you to connect your phone to it, this will automatically disable 3G. As long as you have a decent WiFi signal, your battery life will at least double.

Although your other points are somewhat accurate, they do not cover all cases. For example, even with 3G off (and 4G & WiFi) the 1xrtt radio is still on and you will still be able to get to the web. So applications that wake up occasionally to get something small (like the current temperature or stock quotes) will work just fine. Of course if the app needs to do more (say download lots of email) it will take longer and it will keep the processor going (partial awake state) and that will drain more battery than if there were a faster connection.
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I haven't seen this phone use 2g (1x) yet actually...
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I haven't seen this phone use 2g (1x) yet actually...
Oh great, yet another radio problem. You are correct, it seems I can not get 1xrtt (2G) to work on the Epic. Hm....
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Thanks for the reply. I am using Juice defender and do have the toggle on the home screen but I dont find JD automatic options necessary and would rather just do it manualy. So I dont want JD running and using the battery when I can just toggle it myself. It is a cool app though. The reviews on the app store for some of the data toggles are not good.
Just wondering if someone has a tested toggle for the epic.
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I found one that finally works. Here's the link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.enspirit.epic.data.toggle

It looks like nobody figured out how to toggle data on the Epic touch except this dev. It works great.
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