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Old August 18th, 2010, 04:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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If this is true, I'm very disappointed. I've been due for a ne2 since the X came out and have been holding off for what I think is an all around great phone with a great size for everyday use. Not cool VZ.

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you just gotta wait and see maybe it will launch with 2.2 and supposedly they are in the testing phase now so hopefulyl it comes out before then and they have the gps issue fixed by then maybe thats the reason for the delay who knows
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you just gotta wait and see maybe it will launch with 2.2 and supposedly they are in the testing phase now so hopefulyl it comes out before then and they have the gps issue fixed by then maybe thats the reason for the delay who knows
Or maybe ... the source is wrong about the date ..
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you just gotta wait and see maybe it will launch with 2.2 and supposedly they are in the testing phase now so hopefulyl it comes out before then and they have the gps issue fixed by then maybe thats the reason for the delay who knows

I hope you're right! The problem is that by then we will be previewing other phones that will be coming out in Nov. and we will all want those!! lol
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I hope you're right! The problem is that by then we will be previewing other phones that will be coming out in Nov. and we will all want those!! lol
Well if you always want the latest and greatest good luck trying to stay on top and be happy especially at the rate they are making these phones. And you never know with verizon they always keep everything so hush hush i mean look at the droid 2 they didnt officially announce anything until a week before it was going to be released
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I hope you're right! The problem is that by then we will be previewing other phones that will be coming out in Nov. and we will all want those!! lol
Its a vicious cycle..
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Its a vicious cycle..
Yeah for all those that always think they need the latest and greatest
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I hope you're right! The problem is that by then we will be previewing other phones that will be coming out in Nov. and we will all want those!! lol
I won't. I am not seeing anything down the pipe that is better than the Fascinate on paper.

Keep chasing the latest greatest is like chasing the rainbow.

Hmm, I wonder if some day they might start leasing mobile phones just like leasing cars to cater that segment of customers. It allows them to change phone every 6 months to get the newest model.
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look at the droid 2 they didnt officially announce anything until a week before it was going to be released
Two *days* before, actually. They didn't even admit the Droid 2 existed until August 10, and released it on August 12.

So theoretically, they could be planning to release the Fascinate any day now; the fact that they haven't announced it doesn't mean a whole lot. On the other hand, though, by the time they did announce the Droid 2, pretty much everything there was to know about that phone (including the release plans, user's guide, and marketing materials) had leaked. That hasn't happened for the Fascinate, so either Verizon is doing a better job keeping a lid on things ... or the Fascinate really is months away. Let's hope it's the former and not the latter.
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Two *days* before, actually. They didn't even admit the Droid 2 existed until August 10, and released it on August 12.

So theoretically, they could be planning to release the Fascinate any day now; the fact that they haven't announced it doesn't mean a whole lot. On the other hand, though, by the time they did announce the Droid 2, pretty much everything there was to know about that phone (including the release plans, user's guide, and marketing materials) had leaked. That hasn't happened for the Fascinate, so either Verizon is doing a better job keeping a lid on things ... or the Fascinate really is months away. Let's hope it's the former and not the latter.

It's frustrating b/c there's been no leaking of documents, screen-shots, etc. to point to a date. Oftentimes the phone will NOT be dropping in the next couple of weeks if there as few leaks. I'm still hoping for a Sept. launch.
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It's frustrating b/c there's been no leaking of documents, screen-shots, etc. to point to a date. Oftentimes the phone will NOT be dropping in the next couple of weeks if there as few leaks. I'm still hoping for a Sept. launch.
I think we are all hoping for a september release although its not looking good with the lack of leaks about the phone.
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Seems like Verizon likes to due high end Samsung phones in oct/nov... I know that the Omnia II was a November release... don't remember the Omnia I or I700... by the time this phone comes out, there will already been rumors about better hardware / gingerbread support being discussed and what would have been a leading phone will be mid-tier... sad, as I am an android hold out (still using my Omnia II) waiting on this phone... what's not to say that when this phone does finally arrive, I won't wait for the next one that will already be highly rumored since this one took so long...

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Well, if the Fascinate is released mid-late Oct and the HTC Merge is planned for Nov, I will be waiting 1 extra month to see what the Merge is. The SGS (Fascinate) was announced like 8 months ago. In Oct it will be 10 months old, and the Merge may have some very serious advances over the Fascinate. I DO NOT want a screen larger then 4" in a phone.
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I jumped the Verizon ship on July 16th, switched to AT&T and got a Captivate. Not looking back at all. They were so hot and heavy into their DX marketing, I knew there was no way they were going to release the fascinate any time soon. If you notice, they waited almost a month before releasing the D2. They kept quiet about its release too. I think that they will release the Fascinate about a month after the D2. Why, you ask? The 30 day return buyers remorse issue. Some people will get a phone, then hop to another phone and hop to another phone if they released them all at the same time. Also, there's the competition against themselves. The fascinate is probably sitting in a Samsung Warehouse somewhere completely ready to go when Verizon gives the green light.
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I jumped the Verizon ship on July 16th, switched to AT&T and got a Captivate. Not looking back at all. They were so hot and heavy into their DX marketing, I knew there was no way they were going to release the fascinate any time soon. If you notice, they waited almost a month before releasing the D2. They kept quiet about its release too. I think that they will release the Fascinate about a month after the D2. Why, you ask? The 30 day return buyers remorse issue. Some people will get a phone, then hop to another phone and hop to another phone if they released them all at the same time. Also, there's the competition against themselves. The fascinate is probably sitting in a Samsung Warehouse somewhere completely ready to go when Verizon gives the green light.

That makes a lot of sense. I can see why they would not want their d2 customers knowing when the fascinate will be dropping, even if theyre targeted to different people (keypad v. touchscreen).

the only thing that's annoying is the lack of leaks. If we start getting leaks next week then we can still hope for a Sept. launch I would say
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I jumped the Verizon ship on July 16th, switched to AT&T and got a Captivate. Not looking back at all. They were so hot and heavy into their DX marketing, I knew there was no way they were going to release the fascinate any time soon. If you notice, they waited almost a month before releasing the D2. They kept quiet about its release too. I think that they will release the Fascinate about a month after the D2. Why, you ask? The 30 day return buyers remorse issue. Some people will get a phone, then hop to another phone and hop to another phone if they released them all at the same time. Also, there's the competition against themselves. The fascinate is probably sitting in a Samsung Warehouse somewhere completely ready to go when Verizon gives the green light.
Well u can only return a phone once then you are stuck with the second phone you got you can't keep exchanging phones there is only 1 30 day worry free guarantee to exchange a phone
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Well, if the Fascinate is released mid-late Oct and the HTC Merge is planned for Nov, I will be waiting 1 extra month to see what the Merge is. The SGS (Fascinate) was announced like 8 months ago. In Oct it will be 10 months old, and the Merge may have some very serious advances over the Fascinate. I DO NOT want a screen larger then 4" in a phone.
I'm in the same boat I had the x and returned it just to large for my liking. I held a vibrant and it was the perfect size for me so we will see when it is released
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I won't. I am not seeing anything down the pipe that is better than the Fascinate on paper.
The Droid Pro? There seems to be pretty good agreement that it will also have a 4" screen, a faster 1.3GHz processor, GSM/CDMA/UMTS global roaming and that it will probably be released running Android 2.2 Froyo. Some rumors also suggest it may have a front facing camera and probably a 10M pixel main camera. I have not seen anything addressing the display technology or resolution. Latest rumors seem to peg the Droid Pro release in late November, so late September/early October might make sense for the Fascinate release.

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If you notice, they waited almost a month before releasing the D2. They kept quiet about its release too.
Keep in mind that the Droid 2 was identified pretty early on to be the first Verizon phone to come with Android 2.2 and that dependence on a stable, reliable build of Froyo may have had a lot to do with both the eventual Droid 2 release date and with not wanting to commit to any dates until the both the device and OS were ready to go.
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The Droid Pro is said to have a 4 inch screen

Also, the early rumors about the Galaxy S hitting all 4 US carriers did specifically mention that Verizon and Sprint's version would come later. The Verizon was rumored moreso to come later than Sprint's...
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[QUOTE=Old Man;1407824]The Droid Pro? There seems to be pretty good agreement that it will also have a 4" screen, a faster 1.3GHz processor, GSM/CDMA/UMTS global roaming and that it will probably be released running Android 2.2 Froyo. Some rumors also suggest it may have a front facing camera and probably a 10M pixel main camera. I have not seen anything addressing the display technology or resolution. Latest rumors seem to peg the Droid Pro release in late November, so late September/early October might make sense for the Fascinate release.


Where did you see it rumored to have a front facing camera?
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The Droid Pro is said to have a 4 inch screen

Also, the early rumors about the Galaxy S hitting all 4 US carriers did specifically mention that Verizon and Sprint's version would come later. The Verizon was rumored moreso to come later than Sprint's...
The fascinate was slated for end of summer/early fall for release for awhile so there is still time who knows when they will launch it
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The Droid Pro? There seems to be pretty good agreement that it will also have a 4" screen, a faster 1.3GHz processor, GSM/CDMA/UMTS global roaming and that it will probably be released running Android 2.2 Froyo. Some rumors also suggest it may have a front facing camera and probably a 10M pixel main camera. I have not seen anything addressing the display technology or resolution. Latest rumors seem to peg the Droid Pro release in late November, so late September/early October might make sense for the Fascinate release.
No thank you. I don't like hardware keyboard. And I am not too fond of Motorola as the manufacturer.
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I have my money down for an early September release. At least that is what I am hoping for.
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It's frustrating b/c there's been no leaking of documents, screen-shots, etc. to point to a date. Oftentimes the phone will NOT be dropping in the next couple of weeks if there as few leaks. I'm still hoping for a Sept. launch.
There certainly hasn't been a whole lot to go on. But there have been a couple of minor leaks that do give me some hope for September.

First of all, there's the fact that the Fascinate was already in testing by late July, which supposedly comes 6-8 weeks before release (or so we've been told right here on this forum). Second, there was the photo earlier this week that showed that the Fascinate has appeared in Verizon's Cellebrite system. It's not clear what that means, but it's worth noting that the Droid Incredible showed up in Cellebrite about three weeks before its release. All of this points to sometime in mid-to-late September.

Of course, the recent "leaked roadmap" says otherwise. But we have no way of knowing what that "roadmap" really is. Even if it's a genuine internal Verizon document, it could be a proposed roadmap that was rejected, for all we know. For one thing, it includes the Samsung Gem, a phone that has apparently been canceled; that tells us right off the bat that the "roadmap" document is not current.

Still, though ... if we don't start seeing some serious Fascinate info in the next couple of weeks, I'm gonna start losing faith.
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I work at a Verizon Corporate store and we always get trainings on the phones at least 2 weeks in advance before the phones release.

Nothing yet on the Fascinate =(

I'll keep you guys posted
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@bxojr, great points. All the indications that you have mentioned came from multiple sources. The so-called "leaked roadmap" came from just one single source (and everyone is feeding off it). I tend to trust things that come from multiple sources than a single source.

Besides, the manager at the Verizon store told us it will be in September as well.
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I have my money down for an early September release. At least that is what I am hoping for.
Im hoping for that to but who knows. All we can do is hope it gets released then
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Who mentioned a hardware keyboard? Would having a physical keyboard really be a negative if everything else was right?

There are rumors the Droid Pro may have a physical keyboard but that is all conjecture at this point, in fact all the specs for the Droid Pro are just rumors. There seemed to be agreement on the 4" screen and 1.3GHz processor but then there have been new rumors the last couple of days that the Droid Pro may actually be a Droid 2 with global capability. But until the Fascinate is released then many things about it are also conjecture or assumptions.
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Sounds like October is about right. Sorry to the folks who are hoping for a quick SF debut.
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I am agonizing over updates for this thing and am holding on to the hope that nothing is confirmed yet. So, Steve, please tell me you haven't heard that from any official source yet. Please?!?!
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I am agonizing over updates for this thing and am holding on to the hope that nothing is confirmed yet. So, Steve, please tell me you haven't heard that from any official source yet. Please?!?!
Its been slated for october for awhile. There is also the leaked "roadmap" that says so. Not saying how much belief i put into it lets hope its wrong
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I am agonizing over updates for this thing and am holding on to the hope that nothing is confirmed yet. So, Steve, please tell me you haven't heard that from any official source yet. Please?!?!

Sorry not to have answered sooner. I'm away for the weekend. No, I have nothing official. My gut tells me that the rumors are correct, however, judging from how rumors tend to fly regarding the release of phones.

To answer your question, there is nothing official on this. I will tell you that the testers don't have the phones as yet. When the testers get the phones, we hear about it. It is usually 2 or so weeks from that point in time.


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Sorry not to have answered sooner. I'm away for the weekend. No, I have nothing official. My gut tells me that the rumors are correct, however, judging from how rumors tend to fly regarding the release of phones.

To answer your question, there is nothing official on this. I will tell you that the testers don't have the phones as yet. When the testers get the phones, we hear about it. It is usually 2 or so weeks from that point in time.


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Testing started back in July...
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I was gonna say I thought I saw somewhere that they started testing awhile back. Its all hear say people think they know everything but until something concrete is then its all rumors and asking steven is no better then joe schmo on the street
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Not true. I'm more experienced with androids than Joe Schmo. I would have to say that what I say is going to have a bit more validity than Joe.
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Yes, the Fascinate started testing back in late July. This has been stated by multiple different sources (most notably NKT, right here on this forum); not to mention the photo of a test unit "in the wild" that was published online back in early August.
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From a business perspective, I am beginning to think the Oct. release date is plausible. According to the veizon website the DX wont be shipping out until 9/7. Figure at least 30 days from that date since VZ wont want people returning their DXs for a fascinate without penalty.
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Well if you follow samsungs galaxy s facebook account, they started linking videos of each phone a few weeks before they were launched (yes, all the videos they link are from their event in July). They started linking videos of the Fascinate last week. I'd guess late Sept, not sure I believe Oct, road map or not.
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I'm honestly disappointed that it will only have 2 GB of internal memory. They should have put at least 8 GB.

The lag fix posted for other Galaxy S variants requires a massive amount of space (I think 1.5 GB), so if similar fixes are to come out for the Fascinate then the internal memory is far too limiting. Yes, you can probably move the files to the SD card, but the low capacity of the internal memory is probably another reason for Verizon to showcase the Motorola and HTC offerings over the Samsung.

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I'm honestly disappointed that it will only have 2 GB of internal memory. They should have put at least 8 GB.

The lag fix posted for other Galaxy S variants requires a massive amount of space (I think 1.5 GB), so if similar fixes are to come out for the Fascinate then the internal memory is far too limiting. Yes, you can probably move the files to the SD card, but the low capacity of the internal memory is probably another reason for Verizon to showcase the Motorola and HTC offerings over the Samsung.


I'm ok with the 2 gb of internal if there is no lag issue to fix. However that probably means moving a lot of apps to the external SD card.

Do apps run slower if they're stored on the SD card as opposed to internal memory?
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I'm honestly disappointed that it will only have 2 GB of internal memory. They should have put at least 8 GB.

The lag fix posted for other Galaxy S variants requires a massive amount of space (I think 1.5 GB), so if similar fixes are to come out for the Fascinate then the internal memory is far too limiting. Yes, you can probably move the files to the SD card, but the low capacity of the internal memory is probably another reason for Verizon to showcase the Motorola and HTC offerings over the Samsung.

Well if verizon is going to fix the lag issue before releasing it then 2gb will be plenty of space. Maybe that is what the delay is for they want to fine tune all of the bugs so they dont have all the complaints currently for the galaxy s. I saw the epic review they said the lag was gone so maybe they have a fix for the phones.
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