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Old November 2nd, 2010, 10:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been using ADW for a couple of weeks now. But, as I read through the many forums, I was sucked into the love that Launcher Pro was getting.

So, I gave it a shot; went and purchased Launcher Pro Plus. I ran it for a full day before reverting back to ADW.

Am I losing my mind, or am I missing something with Launcher PRO? It's less responsive, with fewer customizations in my opinion.

I would like some feedback on your launcher preferences for the Fascinate.
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I use launcher pro, but i cant give an informed opinion on ADW since I've never used it.
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I'm with Droidus, I tried LP and loved it, so never tried ADW. I'm curious about the "with fewer customizations" part. If you can skin and resize pretty much anything, what did you want to do that wasn't available?
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I'm with Droidus, I tried LP and loved it, so never tried ADW. I'm curious about the "with fewer customizations" part. If you can skin and resize pretty much anything, what did you want to do that wasn't available?
I couldn't set up the gestures as needed, customize the home action, organize home screens (drag and drop), and some other miscellaneous settings that ADW had readily available. I also became a big fan of the new dock (which is hidden in my screenshots).

Maybe I just got too comfortable with ADW. But, I do know for a fact now that ADW is much more responsive (at least on my Fascinate).

I supported both developers, and will probably give it another shot. I am also looking into Zeam.
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The built in launcher works perfectly fine.
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Oh, definitely. But, that's no fun I am surrounded by iPhones. I like to make them drool...
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Does anyone have a link to ADW in app brain? All I can find are themes for ADW and not the actual program. I've been using LPP and love it, but would like to give ADW a try.
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Does anyone have a link to ADW in app brain? All I can find are themes for ADW and not the actual program. I've been using LPP and love it, but would like to give ADW a try.
Ran into that too - search "ADW.Launcher" to find it. Or go here.

Suppose I can understand your preference sreymj. More power to ya for comparing and finding the one you like best.
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Stock launcher with some nice widgets and live wallpapers makes my iphone friends jealous
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For me LPP just seems more smooth than ADW. But I will say I was converted months ago and haven't used ADW in quite some time.
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adw and launcher pro i think are really neck and neck as to the 2 best launchers. really for me lpp puts it ahead with the further customizations and the widgets.

zeam is also very fast but doesnt have as many features as the previous 2.

to me oem launchers are a pita and the first thing i want to get rid of when i get the phone. i like how sense looks, so i have a sense dockbar for lpp, thus giving me the advantages of both.
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adw and launcher pro i think are really neck and neck as to the 2 best launchers. really for me lpp puts it ahead with the further customizations and the widgets.

zeam is also very fast but doesnt have as many features as the previous 2.

to me oem launchers are a pita and the first thing i want to get rid of when i get the phone. i like how sense looks, so i have a sense dockbar for lpp, thus giving me the advantages of both.
Agreed on the OEM launcher, getting rid of it was my first order of business. If for nothing else to hide all the crap applications.

I did notice that the TwLauncher is always running as a service no matter what. Do LP, ADW, and the like just run on top of TW consuming additional resources? Is there a way to completely bypass TwLauncher?
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Agreed on the OEM launcher, getting rid of it was my first order of business. If for nothing else to hide all the crap applications.

I did notice that the TwLauncher is always running as a service no matter what. Do LP, ADW, and the like just run on top of TW consuming additional resources? Is there a way to completely bypass TwLauncher?
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Looking at the default Task Manager and the Running Services parts of the phone, I don't see TW running, so I don't think LP uses it. If you still have any icons/widgets on your TW homescreens, I would try getting rid of them. If you want to completely get rid of TW, saps has a thread on doing so here.

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For me, dxTop is the ultimate launcher. I don't like the sliding row of screens - dxTop has a diamond-shaped layout which keeps me always one swipe from any screen. It lets me categorize my apps so I don't have the one big bucket, and shows me which ones I haven't yet categorized (great for finding that latest installed app). I also like how it lets me directly access the install page or the market page for any app. It even has its own task manager where I can kill apps manually.
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Looking at the default Task Manager and the Running Services parts of the phone, I don't see TW running, so I don't think LP uses it. If you still have any icons/widgets on your TW homescreens, I would try getting rid of them. If you want to completely get rid of TW, saps has a thread on doing so here.

Edit: Ha, how did I know you'd beat me to it? : P
I'll give it a try. While using either LP or ADW, this is what I show under Applications > Manage Applications, then filter by Running. I was incorrect in stating it was listed under Running Services.
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Looking at the default Task Manager and the Running Services parts of the phone, I don't see TW running, so I don't think LP uses it. If you still have any icons/widgets on your TW homescreens, I would try getting rid of them. If you want to completely get rid of TW, saps has a thread on doing so here.

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I'll give it a try. While using either LP or ADW, this is what I show under Applications > Manage Applications, then filter by Running. I was incorrect in stating it was listed under Running Services.
SystemPanelLite Task Manager - Android app on AppBrain
Give this free app a try too. It will give you details of what is active and inactive and tell you how much cpu and ram any app is using
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I tried ADW and Launcher Pro. LP crashed my phone, nothing but problems...so I uninstalled and ADW has been perfectly behaved.
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I had LP on my D1 and liked it. Put it on the SF and had to take it off. I love TW, it is fresh and new (for me) and LP makes me feel like I am using my old Droid1, it's as if I didn't get a new phone. I have absolutely zero complaints with TW.
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I'm using Zeam and like it. Very streamlined and fast. LP didn't play nice with my Fascinate, though I've used it on every other Android phone I've ever used. Considering trying out SweeterHome again. Anyone using that on the Fascinate?
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I'm using Zeam and like it. Very streamlined and fast. LP didn't play nice with my Fascinate, though I've used it on every other Android phone I've ever used. Considering trying out SweeterHome again. Anyone using that on the Fascinate?
launcher pro is kinda sensitive ill admit. you really have to tweak the settings to get it going well. Memory issues can cause major forces closes with it. if you drop below 50mb avaible lp may go wild.

i use autokiller w/ root on moderate so i never hit that danger area, but if youre unrooted and have a ton of apps that may be the problem
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I've had AK on "strict" and no LP issues, I think it mostly gets left alone when you move it to the system folder.
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launcher pro is kinda sensitive ill admit. you really have to tweak the settings to get it going well. Memory issues can cause major forces closes with it. if you drop below 50mb avaible lp may go wild.

i use autokiller w/ root on moderate so i never hit that danger area, but if youre unrooted and have a ton of apps that may be the problem
This is good info and may explain why I noticed performance issues with LP. I gave Zeam a whirl yesterday. It's lightweight, fast for sure. But, I am going back to ADW.
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They both have their ups and Downs. Personally I like adw better, but that's also because i got used to adw faster. Now if launcher pro had specially designed docks(not just an overlapped image) than it would be the clear cut winner. Just like of adw had Widgets...it would be the winner. I think launcher pro gets a bit more love because it IA Tue most well known. If more people jump on adw and balance out the love...then adw could become king. One of adws other downfals is that most of the themes cost money and I believe people are scared by that when launcher pro essentially has free themes. Although I believe the themes are fully worth it. Some are generic but for the most part each one has its own style and makes the OS look different each time.

But this is simply my opinion. I switch between the two a lot but mainly stick with adw. Although right now I'm using touch wiz.

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Love it. It's like you have three different devices.
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I like the customization of ADW, I like the standard 1x5 dock bar on LP. If I could figure out how to get that on ADW I might switch but I've not taken the time to look into it yet.

But as it stands I typically use LP.

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I like the customization of ADW, I like the standard 1x5 dock bar on LP. If I could figure out how to get that on ADW I might switch but I've not taken the time to look into it yet.

But as it stands I typically use LP.
My first screenshot shows the 1x5 dock on ADW. Is that what you are talking about? You just need to activate the secondary action buttons.
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Ahh, thanks! Question, I see how to set apps to those two added spots in the dock bar, how can I remove assigned apps from the dockbar though?

*NVM, you just overwrite...duuuuuuuh!*

Hrm, now I do have to make a decision...

Question #2, I love how on LP you can hide apps you don't want to see, when I first DL'd ADW it mentioned some sort of similar functionality, but I can't seem to figure it out. Educate a moron anyone?
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Woah, it's the coolest ADW theme ever!

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What's so great about ADW? LP+ has widgets which look clean and are pretty close aesthetically to Sense widgets (example: Calendar widget).

Have you guys seen the upcoming ADW version with 3D animations? Taken from Gingerbread, supposedly. Look it up online. Looks awesome.

I REALLY want MIUI to be ported to the Fascinate!
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When ROM Manager says it will reboot into CWM Recovery, does that mean you don't have to hold down the volume up/down buttons to get into Recovery? Will RM automatically get into Recovery?

Or do you still have to hold volume up/down when RM reboots the phone, so you can get into Recovery?
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When ROM Manager says it will reboot into CWM Recovery, does that mean you don't have to hold down the volume up/down buttons to get into Recovery? Will RM automatically get into Recovery?

Or do you still have to hold volume up/down when RM reboots the phone, so you can get into Recovery?
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rom manager can manually boot you into recovery, so you dont have to battery pull and 3 button. there is also a mod at xda that will insert reboot options into your regular power menu.
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rom manager can manually boot you into recovery, so you dont have to battery pull and 3 button. there is also a mod at xda that will insert reboot options into your regular power menu.
I don't know if you're quoting that based off experiences with other phones, but I just verified that ROM Manager cannot do that (not for me) with the Fascinate. Maybe it has to do with the fact that the Fascinate requires running update.zip from the stock recovery menu in order to get into CWM Recovery. I would think that, if this process were automatic (like on the Incredible), then ROM Manager could boot into CWM Recovery.

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I don't know if you're quoting that based off experiences with other phones, but I just verified that ROM Manager cannot do that (not for me) with the Fascinate. Maybe it has to do with the fact that the Fascinate requires running update.zip from the stock recovery menu in order to get into CWM Recovery. I would think that, if this process were automatic (like on the Incredible), then ROM Manager could boot into CWM Recovery.

I am curious about the reboot options mod.
when i say boot into recovery i meant clockwork recovery from rom manager, not standard recovery...sorry

if you were refering to not being able to boot directly into clockwork....you can

the linke the reboot options is in the root section.
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Ahh, thanks! Question, I see how to set apps to those two added spots in the dock bar, how can I remove assigned apps from the dockbar though?

*NVM, you just overwrite...duuuuuuuh!*

Hrm, now I do have to make a decision...

Question #2, I love how on LP you can hide apps you don't want to see, when I first DL'd ADW it mentioned some sort of similar functionality, but I can't seem to figure it out. Educate a moron anyone?
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 10:16 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Woah, it's the coolest ADW theme ever!

Oh wow.I'm digging that one. VERY pretty. Eventhough I would never use it.
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Yeah, I just did a marketplace search for "ADW Theme" and found it (a freebie). "Hand Carved ADWTheme."

I dunno how long I'll use it either, but it is quite slick.
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for the root crowd, you can d/l the adw themes, extract them, rip out the icons, wallpapers, and (i would assume) dock images and use them with lpp...best of both worlds
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Ooooh, now that would be slick!!!
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i think the wallpapers for some of the adw themes are really slick. a lot of the 3rd party adw themes actually leave the wallpapers available non-root in your system on other launcher and are available when you just go to pick a wallpaper, which is very convenient
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For me, dxTop is the ultimate launcher. I don't like the sliding row of screens - dxTop has a diamond-shaped layout which keeps me always one swipe from any screen. It lets me categorize my apps so I don't have the one big bucket, and shows me which ones I haven't yet categorized (great for finding that latest installed app). I also like how it lets me directly access the install page or the market page for any app. It even has its own task manager where I can kill apps manually.
WOW! I just downloaded dxtop and it rocks. I had adw and launcherpro and i gave them both some time to feel them out. dxtop wins hands down for me. Launcherpro just gave me way to many force close situations and couldn't handle it any more. adw is awesome too, but I like dxtop so much better. Thanks for recommending I love it so far.
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Really? I don't think that LP ever gave me a FC...maybe I'm just lucky though.
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I'm with Droidus, I tried LP and loved it, so never tried ADW. I'm curious about the "with fewer customizations" part. If you can skin and resize pretty much anything, what did you want to do that wasn't available?
I've used both and I'd say LPP has more customization options. they are both fine launchers though.
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For me, dxTop is the ultimate launcher. I don't like the sliding row of screens - dxTop has a diamond-shaped layout which keeps me always one swipe from any screen. It lets me categorize my apps so I don't have the one big bucket, and shows me which ones I haven't yet categorized (great for finding that latest installed app). I also like how it lets me directly access the install page or the market page for any app. It even has its own task manager where I can kill apps manually.
this is one thing LPP needs to work on. They need to have a way to organize the app draw.
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I had LP on my D1 and liked it. Put it on the SF and had to take it off. I love TW, it is fresh and new (for me) and LP makes me feel like I am using my old Droid1, it's as if I didn't get a new phone. I have absolutely zero complaints with TW.
TW looks and feels like an iPhone/iPod if I wanted that I'd either buy an iPhone or just open my app draw and leave it open oh well to each his own.
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launcher pro is kinda sensitive ill admit. you really have to tweak the settings to get it going well. Memory issues can cause major forces closes with it. if you drop below 50mb avaible lp may go wild.

i use autokiller w/ root on moderate so i never hit that danger area, but if youre unrooted and have a ton of apps that may be the problem
Odd I've never used autokiller or done any tweaking to get LPP to run just hunky dory on the three phones I've had it on.

so who tried the new ADW 3D beta ?
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I don't know if you're quoting that based off experiences with other phones, but I just verified that ROM Manager cannot do that (not for me) with the Fascinate. Maybe it has to do with the fact that the Fascinate requires running update.zip from the stock recovery menu in order to get into CWM Recovery. I would think that, if this process were automatic (like on the Incredible), then ROM Manager could boot into CWM Recovery.

I am curious about the reboot options mod.
It can boot to clockwork recovery on the fascinate. Its the second option n ROM manager. It actually boots to recovery and runs the update.zip to get you into CW. I just did it
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