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Old November 14th, 2010, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This is the screen I took before plugging it in for the day. Add about 3 hours to this since I rebooted the phone yesterday in the morning to try out an app. I didnt hammer the phone but I used it normally.


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If anybody thinks this battery sucks, go try to Incredible. Dang I'm glad I switched to the Fascinate.
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I don't think anybody has really claimed the battery of the Fascinate to suck. Some may have faulty batteries or devices that aren't configuring battery readings properly, but overall both the Fascinate and X have great battery performance.
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My Ally can last two days under moderate usage without any live update widgets running. Even with some more usage, going one and half day is no problem. Can you guys confirm this for Fascinate? I like upgrading the screen size, speed in Fascinate but don't want to downgrade battery, GPS.
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I'm currently at 65% battery and have been unplugged for 11 hours and 7 minutes. My SF battery life is much better than my old Dinc ever was.
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Mine is at 37%. It has been unplugged for 55 hours.
It once turned off by itself because I was playing angry birds at around 5~10%.
Does it have bad effect on battery? I heard you can damage battery if you use it until it reaches 0%.
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I've had 2 Fascinates and they don't even sniff the battery life of my Incredible. Incredible gets 30hrs on a 1500mah battery . My Fascinate not even being used with die with in a day , and it's not a rogue app as the phone has no aftermarket apps on it. It's just sitting in a drawer . I had so much hope for the Fascinate and it let me down. I even get it out and try messing with it in hopes I can get it to work some what decently just because the screen is so brilliant
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I've had 2 Fascinates and they don't even sniff the battery life of my Incredible. Incredible gets 30hrs on a 1500mah battery . My Fascinate not even being used with die with in a day , and it's not a rogue app as the phone has no aftermarket apps on it. It's just sitting in a drawer . I had so much hope for the Fascinate and it let me down. I even get it out and try messing with it in hopes I can get it to work some what decently just because the screen is so brilliant
I'm with you on the battery life. I'm getting 8 hours tops, and only barely messing with the phone.

I can't find a "rogue" app, either.

My incredible would get 6-7 hours, but the SF isn't that much better. Why the hell don't companies test out their phones for "real world" usage? Would the engineers want a phone that dies before they get home from work? Come on.

Give us a minimum of 16 hours battery life. They could've given this a larger battery (1800-2000 mAh) and tweaked the power draw of some of the components. Nuts.
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I unplugged mine in the morning used it for a whole day left it at work by accident, got it in the morning and used it for the whole day. Anyways, it seems like it varies by phone. My brother got the fascinate the same day I got mine and his lasts 10 hours tops.
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I'm with you on the battery life. I'm getting 8 hours tops, and only barely messing with the phone.

I can't find a "rogue" app, either.

My incredible would get 6-7 hours, but the SF isn't that much better. Why the hell don't companies test out their phones for "real world" usage? Would the engineers want a phone that dies before they get home from work? Come on.

Give us a minimum of 16 hours battery life. They could've given this a larger battery (1800-2000 mAh) and tweaked the power draw of some of the components. Nuts.
Yeah I am trying some different kernals on the SF , before I sell it . I thought my first SF was just a bad one so I exchanged it and the results were the same , tried rooting ,setcpu profiles, etc... can't get even decent battery life... I'm planning on selling it either way but I wanna fiddle with it some more before I do.
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Wow, that's considerable variation in battery life from 8 hours top to 3 days! Can you comment on when you bought yours, especially the one with bad battery life? I just wonder if the early batch of SF had higher mix of defective battery or phone.
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My Ally can last two days under moderate usage without any live update widgets running. Even with some more usage, going one and half day is no problem. Can you guys confirm this for Fascinate? I like upgrading the screen size, speed in Fascinate but don't want to downgrade battery, GPS.
i personally moved from a Ally to the Fascinate

i am a very heavy user, pandora streaming hours a day, browsing randomply, occasional youtube viewing, two email auto sync's running, beautiful widgets live weather running......and i run my screen at 80% brightness.....and some #andchat in there too....i also use the camera most days for work documentation.....seriously, my phone doesnt go 20 minutes without being used....which is why i dumped my Ally for the Fascinate, the Ally just couldn't keep up with me and started rebooting randomly to top it off

battery life is roughly the same when not pushed however i find the Fascinate lasts longer when you use it hard

for instance, i stream Pandora several hours a day at work, the Ally went dead on me more than twice in a 10 hour day. The Fascinate, even while running an overclocked kernel and all sorts of widgets and stuff going on, automatic personal gmail and auto company exchange email, etc....all running, my Fascinate still makes it home with 20% or so.....only once did it go dead

with both devices, when i sit at my desk for lunch i plug it in....just so you know, but my habits stayed the same, i just switched devices from Ally to Fascinate and it was an improvement
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for those who are suffering poor battery life. give auto killer a try (root). setting it to moderate has always mildly helped my battery life but it may give that rogue app or two the boot. also setting the screen to brightest setting (not saying you do) will definitely kill this battery quickly
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i personally moved from a Ally to the Fascinate

i am a very heavy user, pandora streaming hours a day, browsing randomply, occasional youtube viewing, two email auto sync's running, beautiful widgets live weather running......and i run my screen at 80% brightness.....and some #andchat in there too....i also use the camera most days for work documentation.....seriously, my phone doesnt go 20 minutes without being used....which is why i dumped my Ally for the Fascinate, the Ally just couldn't keep up with me and started rebooting randomly to top it off

battery life is roughly the same when not pushed however i find the Fascinate lasts longer when you use it hard

for instance, i stream Pandora several hours a day at work, the Ally went dead on me more than twice in a 10 hour day. The Fascinate, even while running an overclocked kernel and all sorts of widgets and stuff going on, automatic personal gmail and auto company exchange email, etc....all running, my Fascinate still makes it home with 20% or so.....only once did it go dead

with both devices, when i sit at my desk for lunch i plug it in....just so you know, but my habits stayed the same, i just switched devices from Ally to Fascinate and it was an improvement
Thanks for sharing your experience with both phone. I wish majority of SF users enjoy that good battery life like you are getting. Some folks on this forum seem to struggle to get one day usage out it for whatever reason. I think that could be either defective battery, weak signal reception or something wrong in the setting, apps running that can happen in any phone.

I read somewhere that SF has battery life control setting somewhere in the setting menu and I wonder what it is. And how do you feel about call quality, GPS performance in both phone? Ally is pretty good on those. GPS is fairly quick and accurate.
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Thanks for sharing your experience with both phone. I wish majority of SF users enjoy that good battery life like you are getting. Some folks on this forum seem to struggle to get one day usage out it for whatever reason. I think that could be either defective battery, weak signal reception or something wrong in the setting, apps running that can happen in any phone.

I read somewhere that SF has battery life control setting somewhere in the setting menu and I wonder what it is. And how do you feel about call quality, GPS performance in both phone? Ally is pretty good on those. GPS is fairly quick and accurate.

to be clear, i start with a full charge in the morning, it charges for 30minutes to an hour at lunch, and then at the end of a 10 hour workday it has maybe 20 minutes remaining

i am thinking about setting up a second battery/charger because if i work all day and then want to go out that evening, my phone doesn't get a chance to charge

but it is worked very hard all day

the Ally when left alone in standby has much better battery life, but when worked as hard could not keep up
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There is something wrong with mine then, because it is 5:15 pm where I live, I took my phone off the charger this morning at 6:00 a.m. So that is about 11 hours. My battery usage says the phone is 3 hrs 47 min and 18 secs since unplugged. Which is incorrect.....It has not be back on the charger all day.
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perhaps your phone rebooted itself. I believe this resets the time since unplugged.
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Ha! you are correct. I didn't think of that. It froze today and I had to pull the battery.....

Duh!
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There is something wrong with mine then, because it is 5:15 pm where I live, I took my phone off the charger this morning at 6:00 a.m. So that is about 11 hours. My battery usage says the phone is 3 hrs 47 min and 18 secs since unplugged. Which is incorrect.....It has not be back on the charger all day.
Did the phone reboot about 3hrs 47 min ago?
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There is something wrong with mine then, because it is 5:15 pm where I live, I took my phone off the charger this morning at 6:00 a.m. So that is about 11 hours. My battery usage says the phone is 3 hrs 47 min and 18 secs since unplugged. Which is incorrect.....It has not be back on the charger all day.
It might be due to rebooting as others said. But more importantly, how much battery juice was left at that point?
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This is the screen I took before plugging it in for the day. Add about 3 hours to this since I rebooted the phone yesterday in the morning to try out an app. I didnt hammer the phone but I used it normally.

and UCLA...,
Could you guys tell me what Kernel and ROM's you have loaded?

I'd be lucky to make 24 hours with mild-to-moderate use.

I'm down to 70% battery life left after four hours since I unplugged from 100%. Display at 84% of battery consumption, moderate to slightly heavy use with screen brightness on Auto.

I'm rooted, JT superclean ROM, and I think his 11/16 undervolt Kernel (I Flashed it, but wasn't sure how to confirm that it worked).

I'm not saying my battery life sucks. Comparable to my old Storm 1, but obviously nothing compared to you guys.
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if i never complained about the fascinate's battery life...am i allowed to be in this thread
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It seems like no android phone user is exactly happy about battery life. Since I need to decide between D2 and SF by the end of this month, I also researched many forums on D2's battery life. The trend is similar there too. Some guys were having really horrible battery drains while other can make D2 go two days, very similar pattern to SF forum here. Depends greatly on apps, settings. Overall SF seems not worse than other super-phones if not better.
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My battery can last 4 hours or multiple days.

All depends on how long your screen is on. Usually if your screen is on for more than 3 hours you WILL be low on battery by then.

Time unplugged doesn't mean a thing.

how many apps do you have that are auto syncing every hour or peridiocally. All my apps are set to refresh manually except for gmail.
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I used to plug it in at night and battery bar would still be blue.

Now, it's 8pm, I unplugged at 7:30am today and I'm already yellow bar and have gotten battery low warning.

It appears to last long as long as I don't make calls, which is what a phone is for.
12h 17m 4s since unplugged

Voice calls 84%
Display 7%
Cell Stanby 5%
Phone Idle 3%

That makes no sense. Or maybe it does

About 155 minutes (2 1/2 hours) on 27 calls and 7 missed calls.
I have auto sync on, but only for Touchdown Exchange contacts, gmail mail and calendar, and facebook contacts (once per day)

And my battery icon is blinking red now
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I used to plug it in at night and battery bar would still be blue.

Now, it's 8pm, I unplugged at 7:30am today and I'm already yellow bar and have gotten battery low warning.

It appears to last long as long as I don't make calls, which is what a phone is for.
12h 17m 4s since unplugged

Voice calls 84%
Display 7%
Cell Stanby 5%
Phone Idle 3%

That makes no sense. Or maybe it does

About 155 minutes (2 1/2 hours) on 27 calls and 7 missed calls.
I have auto sync on, but only for Touchdown Exchange contacts, gmail mail and calendar, and facebook contacts (once per day)

And my battery icon is blinking red now
Sometimes it's a rogue app that doesn't show up in battery stats. I had a clock widget that was sucking my battery dry, as soon as I got rid of it my battery life went back to normal.
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Sometimes it's a rogue app that doesn't show up in battery stats. I had a clock widget that was sucking my battery dry, as soon as I got rid of it my battery life went back to normal.
Any idea how I would find that?

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Any idea how I would find that?
Honestly? I'm not sure. I just started deleted apps. I was lucky, that one was affecting my system performance as well, so when I made it go away, everything was happier.
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My personal best on light usage. This was DJ05 rom v.3 with the included kernel. FWIW, most of the uv kernels do pretty well on battery life, although a few rom, kernel, theme, widget, app combos can and do still drain things
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again, this thing is supposed to have 420 minutes of talk time. Even if that is overstated, it should get more than 150 minutes...

Any way to check dates apps were added? Problem started about a month ago.
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again, this thing is supposed to have 420 minutes of talk time. Even if that is overstated, it should get more than 150 minutes...

Any way to check dates apps were added? Problem started about a month ago.
wow yeah 150. This weekend I made a long long long call, 436 minutes, that was from 100% battery to 1%.

Titanium Back Up can arrange your apps by install date but it does not give a date of install or does manage applications
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In the beginning I was having horrible battery life as well for just moderate usage. Would be down 50% by 3 hours after unplugged. In case anyone is in Same boat as I was, I had exchange emails and 2 other email accounts. My exchange was set to push and other two emails were set to every 5 minutes. I found out push inky exchange was what's killing me. So now exchange is set to every half hour and other emails are set to every hour. I will talk on average up to 3-4hours a day. Google chat when not on computer. Text all day. Pandora or angrybirds during lunch. 18hours unplugged and still at 67% battery life. not bad.
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My Touchdown Exchange is set to check hourly. Only other email is Gmail and I think that's push. I've always had Gmail, so don't think that was problem.

I did add a wallpaper from my South Carolina Fanatic app. I have since changed to stock wallpaper. I have also deleted Quick Uninstaller since I had it, deleted it, then added back. Not sure on timing, but battery was ok at first, then good, then bad. So maybe thought uninstaller was problem.

If still issues, i will uninstall South Carolina fanatic app tonight.

I will also try Titanium Backup to see if I've missed something.
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ok, that change worked a little better. About same useage, 6am off charger, turned yellow around 10-11pm. I just went and deleted the South Carolina Fanatic app anyway at 10:30.

Noticed Titanium bkup was only for rooted phones, so didn't try.

I still feel like I used to get better battery life. I specifically remember making lots of calls and being amazed my "voice calls" were 4th or so on the list st 20-30%. Now they are always 70%+. I don't know. ???
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Mine generally lasts from 7am to 10pm with light to moderate use. I was in a meeting all day yesterday with heavy email useage, several calls, a few texts. I unplugged at 5:30, used Navigation for 30 min (plugged in while driving) and I was on yellow by 2pm. The good thing with this is that on yellow I still checked a few emails and sent a few texts and did not go red until about 3:30. I had GPS and BT on the entire day. I was back in the car at 4 and plugged in never having it shut down. My D1 on yellow would be dead within 20 min. A couple of tips to get a bit more life. When in a meeting and GPS, WiFi, and BT are not necessary, turn them off. I always leave WFi off since I never never use it. All are easily turned back on with a key stroke. Last spring, my D1 under the same scenario performed about the same.
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If anybody thinks this battery sucks, Try a blackberry storm. I had to charge mine overnight, and then again during the day to make it through the day. On the sam usage, this battery lasts me over two days.
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Has anyone tried one of the 2200 mAH batteries available on eBay?

Example: OEM Extended Li-Ion Battery for Samsung Fascinate i500 - eBay (item 400177543260 end time Dec-07-10 22:10:38 PST)
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I have yet to find a need for an extended battery on this phone....but if you go that route id be warry of ebay batteries as many times they turn out to be cheap knockoffs from china that are big and labelled as 2150 or 2200 mah but in reality are nowhere near that

Really if you want to go the extended route id pony up the extra cash and buy an official or seido one where/when available to whatever android pbone
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I have yet to find a need for an extended battery on this phone....but if you go that route id be warry of ebay batteries as many times they turn out to be cheap knockoffs from china that are big and labelled as 2150 or 2200 mah but in reality are nowhere near that

Really if you want to go the extended route id pony up the extra cash and buy an official or seido one where/when available to whatever android pbone
Yep, some have exploded while charging, one guy in Asia lost an eye from a cheap knock off blowing up in his face.
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Once you tweak your phone and turn off the BS apps that run, etc., you can get almost two days out of the battery.

My main problem is getting it to charge 100% while on. Since the phone is missing the power on alarm feature (God only knows why), you have to leave it on to charge the battery, which is a catch 22.

These phones have so much running that you can't charge to 100%. They'll last a good 36 - 38 hours normal use on 100% if you can get there.
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I don't get it. My brother's stock Fascinate (non-root) gets a solid day's worth of heavy use. In fact, Battery Left reports the battery as capable of running 25 hours, which is inline with his own observations.

I don't get more than 12 hours. Battery Left reports about 12:30 total life.

I know those widgets are not always accurate, but his lasts substantially longer than mine. Not sure why

I'm not running any widgets that I think would be causing problems, either. He has TW and I'm running LP+. That's about the only diff I can think of.

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When I broke up with my girlfriend....and wasn't texting all day. I noticed it lasted twice as long. Not kidding...don't take this as a joke. I got home home with over 50% at 10pm every night.
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So what is the secret to getting good battery life on the Fascinate? My wife has one and it is lucky to make it an entire day with only light usage. It never seems to charge fully to 100% (typically reports ~98%) when done, and the battery has been replaced already. There isn't really anything running background wise that I can find. My Droid X, on the other hand can go over a day and half usually with more usage than hers. Shes been getting really frustrated with the phone and wishes she had her Blackberry back.
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Sounds crazy, but slow texting or emailing, and web surfing, is what eats battery life... If you can crank out a quick txt or email reply in 20-30 seconds and put the phone back to sleep immediately, it saves battery life - big time. If you tend to read and re-read stuff, start a reply, edit the reply, then finally send it 2-3 minutes later, the screen is on the whole time and that is really what kills battery on these phones. The screen.

4" of SAMOLED goodness comes at a price.

I can listen to MP3's or stream pandora or a football game on NFL for hours on end. Hardly any impact on the battery unless I leave the screen on, and then you can almost see the battery meter draining in front of your eyes.

That's why battery life seems so random for many people... If you spend 30 minutes playing Angry Birds in the Dr's office waiting room expect your battery to die about 30-40%. If you use it for calls (screen off), streaming audio (screen off) and reply quickly to txts and emails, you will be going to bed with 40% or more battery life. I use the heck out of my phone, and besides plugging into a car charger when I'm navigating, I never charge it during the day and I can count on two hands the number of times it has hit me with the "please connect your charger" message before bedtime.

It's all about how often the screen is on, your overall brightness settings, and how often your auto-sync apps poll.
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One thing that I forgot to mention was that the phone will drop 25% of its charge over night just sitting on the table. My Droid X will only go to 10% in the same period. I think that drop is a bit extreme. It only syncs Yahoo and Gmail (Neither allows for polling time changes) and I think Facebook. But there are no widgets running either.
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OK, hope I did this attach files right.

This is all I've done today. 1hr 19min voice calls. 31% battery left. Cropped out phone idle 5% and Android System 2%.

Is something wrong here?

Very difficult time attaching files too. Saved from ShootMe, then it said file dimensions were too big and I had to crop manually. Gotta be an easier way for that too.
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OK, hope I did this attach files right.

This is all I've done today. 1hr 19min voice calls. 31% battery left. Cropped out phone idle 5% and Android System 2%.

Is something wrong here?

Very difficult time attaching files too. Saved from ShootMe, then it said file dimensions were too big and I had to crop manually. Gotta be an easier way for that too.
You started on 100%? and 10-11hrs later you're at 31% and all you've done is 80 minutes of call huh? Yeah that seems a bit not so good. Hard to say. What kernel were you on?
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Yes started at 100% or 98%, whichever it is when you unplug.

Everything is stock.

GPS on
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I posted I got 100 hours a week ago. But, people couldn't believe without screenshot. So, this time I tried to take some screenshots on the phone, and didn't find any way to do it because my phone is not rooted.
I just used my brother's incredible and took photo.

this time it was 111 hours which is 4days 14~15 hours.

of course, with minimal use. I definitely picked up incoming calls and used it sometimes.

oh i used GPS for about 30-40 minutes, too.. i forgot
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