nikvshah

Hello Everyone,

Firstly I am very very new & non-familiar to the world of Android.
I am from India.
To explore the features of Android, I purchased Samsung Galaxy Ace S5830.

Now that I started downloading Applications. It automatically installed in Phone Internal Memory or SD card. I was unaware of it.

But after certain applications, out of 190 MB of Phone's Memory, only 18 MB free remained & it gave me message of memory full not allowing to install applications & even incoming messages also stopped & I couldn't receive them.

There's option of moving all applications from SD card to Phone Memory, but the option of moving from Phone to SD card is always disabled for all applications installed in Phone Memory.


So I un-installed all the Applications installed in Phone Memory.
But this is not the solution I guess.
I want to install Applications to SD card.

Even I am totally unaware of the terms like Rooting & development etc.

So please guide me through this step by step in as simple language as possible (means non-technical language).

Help is appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
Nikunj Shah.

Mackinon

Hi nikvshah and welcome to android forums, first of all what you can do is install an app called "App2sd" from google play. this app will move all the movable apps to sd card though it will not move 100% of the app it will give you good amount of memory to install more apps.

this kind of issues are very common to new android users but the more you will use your phone the more you will start loving it...

nikvshah

Thanks Mackinon, but I am looking for a firm/final solution..
I have just newly bought & I don't want to void the warranty.

ayush29k

Welcome to androidforums,
Since you are not rooted, there is very little you can do about the extremely low ACE's internal memory.
The app2sd app mackinon has mentioned will be of very little help, although its all thats available for you. Since most of the apps require phone details access permissions, they are supposed to be installed in the internal memory and the apps that don't require these permissions can be easily installed in the sd card(these are the only ones you can move right now). But as you have seen the ACE has very low internal memory, hence that limits the number of apps(requiring phone space) you can install.

But if you really want to move ALL apps to the sd card, it is possible via rooting, you can use your sd card as internal memory and install as many apps that you want, but yes that will void your warranty, so its all upto your choics.

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linkzzz

Hi,

I want to ask, how can i direct install my application and games to sd card?
because my phone storage only have 190mb, so i want to save my other download application or games to my sd card.

ayush29k

Read the above posts.
Most apps get installed in the phone memory, you will have to move them to sd card if its possible for the app to be moved there. There are apps like app2sd that'll automatically move the apps you install to sd card.(only those that can be moved)

Ryuinferno

Did you try this How to move almost all Android apps to SD card (no root required) (works for gingerbread too)

ayush29k

This hack is a good alternate to people who don't want to root their device, but even this has limitations, there is still a part of the app that uses internal memory.
Also this procedure is a bit difficult for novice users, its much more easier to root and be done with the internal memory headache.

Mackinon

After Reading this post i started exploring about moving apps to sd card...
ended up installing CM7.2 RC3 and also Partitioned my sd card with ext4 using CWM5
and installed S2E and right now i have only 5MB used internal memory..
The phone now uses 2GB of ext4 partition on my sd card as phone memory.
learned this trick from XDA...

ayush29k

You should try link2sd, its much more customised then s2e, there you can select which apps to move.

2gb partition!! you must be using alot of apps my friend
Could you tell me which sd card are you using right now?

Mackinon

I am currently using app2sd to see where my apps are currently stored and if they are in sd card i move to to phone which intern goes to the partition on the sd card.

i will try link2sd as well.

ya 2gb and still looking for more good apps to try out.. mostly root apps.

I have a 16GB scandisk class 4 sd card.. which gives about 11Mbps of read speed and 4Mbps of writing speed.. i found no issues with it..


S2E is only supported by CM7 based roms, is it the same case with link2sd?

ayush29k

I am not sure if link2sd works with stock or not, but it definately works with CM based roms.

nikvshah

Thanks Ayush,

for the clear guidance.

Let me tell you that mine is

Gingerbread.xxld3
2.3.6 Android version.

And I don't want to void my warranty.
May be after 1 year I can check this rooting thing out.

But I am confused about "Ryuinferno" post which states without root.
And what you stated is sort of hack.
Is that good? advisable? or is it a crime?

I am not sure & Unaware, so asking foolish questions. I don't understand all the conversations done later on.

I have 8GB sd memory card in my mobile.

I HAVE ANOTHER QUERY TOO..

MY mobile also keeps on hanging.
Sometimes some call comes, it hangs. Then I need to shut it down & again turn it on.
I open menu, it hangs for a while.
Its not working well.

ayush29k

Actually i think of warranty as a safety net while i am rooted, cause if by chance i screw up the phone i'll have the samsung people to blame for.
I can simply unroot the phone and flash the stock firmware before taking the phone to the service center, they'll never know it was rooted.

Don't get scared by the 'hack' term, it just means its a workaround the normal android protocols. Its not illegal in any way as you are not rooting it.
You can try it, but as in all softwares any mishandling might cause slight damage(very low chances ). Go through the 'Force apps to sd card' thread in the sticky threads and you'll see the success and safety rate of the procedure.

The lag might be due to too many apps running in the background at one time, uninstall apps that you don't use and get a task killer to kill the apps unnecessarily running in the background. They take up lots of ram thereby slowing up the phone.

nadznaz

can you send me a link that you used to solve your problm im havin the same problm but i am rooted,the problm is still with the internal memory?

ayush29k

This is what he used, but its for CM based roms only,
[Guide] REAL guide for FULL Apps2SD using Clockwork. - xda-developers

coreash

Hello all,
Im new to this site but will just give you some information that I have recieved from being in the O2/Tesco's phone shop after spending 1hr and half talking to customer care/techincal support team on their phone and other various people in relation to the Samsung Galaxy Ace and its memory, internally and externally.

Basicially With the Galaxy ace there is only so much internal memory on the phone..........once this is roughly down to about 20MB it give you a message (not enough memory) please delete blah blah blah. Now you would think that having a 2GB memory SD Card as standard inserted , your applications would automatically be transfered on the the SD card...................How wrong we all are. The techinal guy basically said that if we download apps the internal memory will be used and nothing else. The sd card however is for the storage of video's and camera pictures that we may use. And the odd application. There is no way of asking where the application is to be installed.........Phone or Sd Card.

Not that the technical guy has said this but the only way to get around this is to do the same as what people are doing to their Iphones (jailbreak). I on the other hand.....gave my handset back to tesco's today and decided to go for the Galaxy S2 which has an internal memory of 16GB.........unlike the Galaxy Ace at just a miserable 158 MB storage, 278 MB RAM.

Anyway hope this helps some of your questions.

Last edited by coreash; July 16th, 2012 at 10:18 AM.

Marcha

Hi,
And welcome to the Galaxy Ace forum.
Overall your story is known to the users over here.
One small correction though: some of the apps can actually be moved to SD with stock rom (although part of them will always remain on internal storage). Whether this is possible or not, can be seen when opening settings, applications, app management; tick one app you want to look at. If it can be moved to SD, the small block with this text can be clicked.

dp180892

Hey...i have samsung galaxy ACE & i have 16 GB memory card.I have created 2GB ext2 partition by Mini tool partition wizard home edition.but i can't access it.Please help me with it.How to access it ? will it work as internal memory? if yes then how can i use it and see its status?

-SAMSUNG GALAXY ACE S5830.

ayush29k

You cannot access it from a windows machine, the format is different. There is no need to access it actually, just use the methods i am giving below and it'll work like internal memory.
Partition SD Card to FAT 32 and EXT4

muzammil91

hey can you please elaborate me the process step which you mentioned in this post. and what happen when i done with this steps and after that remove my memory card from phone to transfer data or something....is phone shows some error like memory missing or simply phone removes internal memory(which is partition of memory card) and work in default condition provided by Samsung. and what should i do if i want to remove this trick from my phone if i have to give my phone in warranty.

ayush29k

Its for rooted devices only, you need to root your phone before using this.
The error depends upon what all you transfer to the sd card, if its just apps then when you remove the card, those apps installed on it will show as unavailable/not-installed as long as the card is out, but if you transfer dalvik cache then that might create a problem. Its better to switch off the phone, remove the card, do the data transfer you want, reinsert the card and switch back on, thats a safe way.

muzammil91

thanx for reply.
and can you please describe the process how to root my device and how to make micro sd as a internal memory.?

ayush29k

Its in the link i gave above in my earlier post. Post #20

speccyboo

so glad i found this forum! my phone has been telling me for weeks that i have run out of internal storage space, i have deleted a few unused apps, keep deleting messages and caches but i still only have 19mb free. i do not have a silly number of downloaded apps and they are mostly on the sd card anyway. (2 weeks after i got the phone i wished i'd got a better one but there you go, i'm stuck with it for 2 years..)
i have tried to move some things to the sd card but the option is always disabled. i have read through this thread and thought i'd look up the app2sd app, and there are loads to choose from! how do i know which one to use?

ayush29k

app2sd app is of no use without root access. It will not be able to move apps that show 'move to sd' disabled in Manage Application settings. All it can do is move the apps that you can already move yourself through settings one by one, it just does that all together, nothing more.

steveulent

Hi there, and thanks to all the people who have posted replies so far. . . I'm fairly non-technical, so it's helped me grasp the basics. . .

But I still have the same problem. Internal memory is full. I have rooted my phone, and installed app2sd, but am still unable to move most of my applications to the SD card, and in manage applications they still show with the 'move to SD card' box grayed out. Rooting doesn't seem to have made any difference at all. RootValidator tells me that the phone is rooted correctly.

Are there some apps that just have to stay on the phone internal memory?

ayush29k

Root is the most basic thing, just because you have root doesn't mean your internal memory will increase by itself!! Root merely grants superuser access to the system files, thats it!

i will go crazy with Galaxy Ace Internal Memory
Read this!

Last edited by ayush29k; September 19th, 2012 at 07:34 AM.

steveulent

ahh. . . Maybe you didn't understand. I didn't ask if the internal memory would increase by itself. It's just a chunk of flash, no? It can't grow. I asked if there are some apps which have to be stored on something addressed as internal memory?

ayush29k

My meaning is still the same, the only way to get more internal memory is to create a partition on your sd card, you can't actually add more hardware to the phone, that partition on the sd card works like an extended section of the internal memory, hence internal memory increased.

tophat0101

Hi, New to all this "tec speak" but have followed directions to root my galaxy ace and keep getting "aborted" message.
Really desperate to sort memory prob out to receive messages from family abroad, but nothing seems to be working, any suggestions please?

(have App2SD, and tried upd_1 zip)

Thanks

ayush29k

Wrong thread mate, put your questions in the rooting thread, the OP who made the root file will be able to help you best.
root for gingerbread 2.3.3 + universal root guide

shisha24

sir can you please post a video on how can we make our sd cards as an internal memory beacause I really didn't get it
pardon me
thank you!!!

ayush29k

I can't exactly make a video of it, but i can explain the procedure here and give you the link for the tutorial to follow up on this.
1. You will need a rooted device with ClockworkMod recovery(CWM) installed, CWM is a custom recovery software used to install entire android software and patches onto the phone, the phone has a recovery of it own but we need a custom built which offers much more features and ease of use.
You will also need to have an ext partition on the sd card which can be used as internal memory.

2. You need to make your system capable of running user made scripts. We use a script that makes the system capable of using the sd card's ext partition as an extension of the internal memory. This capability is brought by using a custom kernel in the phone, namely cf-root kernel by ketut.kumajaya.

3. After installing the kernel we will install the script in the system and use an app to control the functions of the script, usually we use app2sd and link2sd for this. With these apps you can select which apps you want to put in sd-ext partition and which on normal sd card. You can also transfer the dalvik cache and the app's data onto the internal memory.

If you use link2sd, there is no need to install the script yourself, the script is installed along with the app only.

All this process takes no more than 10minutes, the only part that takes time is to gather all the required files and steps for installing each file on the system.

There is an alternative and much easier method too, you can simply use a custom made android software(custom rom). Most custom rom's kernel support the app2ext function, all you need is to flash this rom, install the script and use a partitioned card. The roms also have many additional features and performance and graphic enhancements than the stock samsung rom you use now.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476121

Last edited by ayush29k; September 25th, 2012 at 10:28 AM.

brilun

Hi. Just to be pernickety, the S2 doesn't have 16GB of RAM, it only has 1GB of RAM and rest is effectively like an SD in principle. Yes, it is still over three times as much as the ACE but most of us get an ACE cos of its Tesco rock bottom price £12-50 a month. The S2 is up there with the iPhone at £25 a month. I have rooted my ACE and I have over 700MB of Apps on the SD partition which is not too shabby.

lambousa

Ayush29: your link in post 34 is ok for me to follow (for the most part anyhow!).

When you say:

D. Now use root explorer and copy the attached file to system/app
Give it the permissions rw-r-r.

where is the attached file and how does one give it those permissions?

ayush29k

If you want to setup link2sd on your system then yes that is the tutorial you should follow.
The part that requires flashing cf-root is for only those who are not using any custom roms or don't know if there rom supports init.d or for those who are still using the rooted default samsung firmware. Rest CM users or custom stock rom users need not flash cf-root, they usually have it pre-installed, to check look in settings>about phone and check your kernel version.

I have not written this tut, nor have i posted any files here, i have merely given a link for anyone who wishes to setup link2sd. All required files are posted either as links or as attachments in the post with the tutorial itself.

When you use root explorer, paste the app in directory system/app, long press the app, click on permissions and give the following permissions as
r w -
r - -
r - -
(you will understand this when you do it)
Reboot and the app will be installed. This is the standard method to install any app in the system memory.

01wina88

Hi Everyone,

I have samsung galaxy ace and I want to move sms from my galaxy ace to s3.
Could u tell me ho to do it?
I already download mobile backup II but when I move my micro sd from my ace to s3, i cant see my sms or contact. I also had google account but my contact doesnt syn with google account ( i dont save my number in google account) but I can move my contact by send name card via bluetooth.

Thx

ayush29k

Use MyBackup pro to backup your contacts and messages on the sd card, then insert the card on your new phone and reinstall the app there and restore your backup on it.

For contacts you can also export to sd your entire phonebook in one vcf file and then import it back on the s3.

hismnl

I moved all the application on the SD-Card but the internal phone storage is getting low on space