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Old September 20th, 2012, 12:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'm trying to install an update to Google maps and it says it's 6 MB in size but if I go to:
Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications it shows23 MB free.

Is there a gap in my understanding?
Is it a problem with the Google Play Store?

My kernel version is 2.6.35.7 and the build number is Gingerbread.

I already have app2sd which moves my apps to the memory card?

I went into Task Manager and Clear Memory and it made no difference.

Reading a small bit on similar threads. Would it be worth getting hboot?

I deleted data from the Google maps apps to resolve this but just wondering is there a more permanent solution.

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Is your phone rooted ?
Using app2sd on an unrooted phone is not effective as apps will still leave most of their data in the device memory.
Using Task Manager and Clear Memory only clears the Ram that's currently being used by any running apps, this is nothing to do with the amount of device memory you have.
To try and free up some memory try using a cache cleaner from google market and delete old call logs, unwanted sms, old apps etc.
Unfortunately due to the Ace's small internal memory the only viable solution if you want to install lots of apps is to root your phone.
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Yes I do have it rooted. I have the Root uninstaller and I have removed apps with this.

I suppose the biggest thing I'd be looking for is how can I tell the actual memory I have free.

Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications doesn't seem to give an accurate reflection of this.

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Yes I do have it rooted. I have the Root uninstaller and I have removed apps with this.

I suppose the biggest thing I'd be looking for is how can I tell the actual memory I have free.

Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications doesn't seem to give an accurate reflection of this.

Appreciate any inputs people have.
What do you mean the 'manage applications' does not give an accurate reflection of the memory??
You memory is exactly what it says it is.
If you don't believe it then look in the Settings>Storage and see the status of your internal memory.
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The reason that I don't believe what it says to me is that it failed to install a 6 MB package when it showed 29 MB was free.

I have emptied cache and removed data from some applications and succeeded in applying updates but Settings --> SD Card and Phone Storage --> Internal Phone Storage now shows as 26.61 MB which suggests this shows more or less the same thing.

It's Droidsall Super App2SD I am using. Is there an alternative version that might be better?

Confused why the install failed when I have enough space but these phones seem to have a crappy amount of space amnd maybe that's just something I need to live with.

Appreciate the inputs.
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Any app2sd app is useless without root, all it does is what you can do yourself through the manage applications setting.
The ace stops installing apps and receiving messages when internal memory drops below 20mb. Above it there shouldn't be any problem, you should be able to install it now even if the memory drops below 20 after installation.
Try a reboot and see if it works, also try a different application, maybe the fault is with the application.
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As mentioned in the third post it is already rooted. Also I believe I have it rooted correctly as when I set it up initially I could move a load of apps and saved a heap of space.

Interesting to note that you can't install once the memory goes below 20 MB and I can keep this in mind. That might explain what was happening as when I did the 6 MB install with 23 MB free to start with it seemed to gradually increase till half way on the install and them immediately complete giving a message insufficient Storage. Strange that it would give this when there is still 10% but if that's the way it is I suppose there's nothing we can do.

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I'm sorry let me amend my previous post, even with root you have do some modifications to the system to use your sd card as internal memory, root is only the first step, there's tonnes to do after that to get rid off all the restrictions and useless features samsung has added in their stock firmwares.
You need an ext partition and a mount script to use the sd card like that.

I have 500mb of internal memory, and i am not including the original phone's internal memory in that.


If you had 23mb before starting a 6mb update, you should have been able to do the update, after the update the you should get the 'low internal memory notification' and your memory should show 17mb. There should be no problem in updating. I have done similar updates and my internal memory reduced to near 4mb, but the updates were successful.
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Clear your Google Play app data and try again may be its the google play app that is having the false information about your storage
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I found something that was taking up alot of cache space and it was Google Maps.
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I'm sorry let me amend my previous post, even with root you have do some modifications to the system to use your sd card as internal memory, root is only the first step, there's tonnes to do after that to get rid off all the restrictions and useless features samsung has added in their stock firmwares.
You need an ext partition and a mount script to use the sd card like that.

I have 500mb of internal memory, and i am not including the original phone's internal memory in that.


If you had 23mb before starting a 6mb update, you should have been able to do the update, after the update the you should get the 'low internal memory notification' and your memory should show 17mb. There should be no problem in updating. I have done similar updates and my internal memory reduced to near 4mb, but the updates were successful.
Hi,

My name is Teresa and Iīm brand new to this forum. Iīm gradually becoming more and more interested in Android devices, and so far I have already managed to "brick" my Samsung Galaxy Ace phone.

I had rooted it and partitioned the SD card successfully, but thatīs as far as I had got in my process of adding more internal memory via the SD card partition. I installed clockworkmod recovery and puff! On the next reboot attempt it remained completely off.

Iīve taken it to a shop to get it reset, but I havenīt given up on tuning my phone, so if I donīt follow some good advice and learn, I am likely to break it again.

If anyone has the main steps and tools needed to do this, I would really appreciate advice. Itīs likely thereīs already a good post for this, feel free to point me there. I have literally just joined before I go pick up my "revived" phone.

Also, when I upgraded the OS from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6 everything seemed to run much slower (drawing the screens, etc). Could this be due to there being little internal memory? Any suggestions?

Thank you very much!
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Hi,

My name is Teresa and Iīm brand new to this forum. Iīm gradually becoming more and more interested in Android devices, and so far I have already managed to "brick" my Samsung Galaxy Ace phone.

I had rooted it and partitioned the SD card successfully, but thatīs as far as I had got in my process of adding more internal memory via the SD card partition. I installed clockworkmod recovery and puff! On the next reboot attempt it remained completely off.

Iīve taken it to a shop to get it reset, but I havenīt given up on tuning my phone, so if I donīt follow some good advice and learn, I am likely to break it again.

If anyone has the main steps and tools needed to do this, I would really appreciate advice. Itīs likely thereīs already a good post for this, feel free to point me there. I have literally just joined before I go pick up my "revived" phone.

Also, when I upgraded the OS from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6 everything seemed to run much slower (drawing the screens, etc). Could this be due to there being little internal memory? Any suggestions?

Thank you very much!
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How did you install the clockworkmod recovery? did you use rom manager to flash recovery??

The lag depends on your background running apps and services, check the manage applications>running applications in settings and see what is consuming your ram. Close down unnecessary processes and apps.

For what process do you need a guide for?
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Well, I was installing clockworkmod recovery in order to get the menu that would let me partition the SD card and mount it as internal memory. I may be mistaken in this.

I think I can easily get back to version 2.3.6 and root my phone again, but Iīm concerned about the next steps in adding internal memory (SD card partition). This is where it went wrong before.

I believe I installed ROM manager from play.gogle.com and from this app, I installed the clockworkmod recovery. After this I decided to reboot and check that (if) everything was still ok, but the problem may have ocurred earlier.

I could not find the clockworkmod recovery app anywhere.

"did you use rom manager to flash recovery?"

Not sure. I selected some option in rom manager to install clockworkmod, but I donīt remember what the options were.

I donīt suppose Iīll have a lag once I have more internal memory. I would like to focu on this first, and worry about memory usage later (especially since I should have a factory re-set mobile now and it should not have memory problems again yet).

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Well, I was installing clockworkmod recovery in order to get the menu that would let me partition the SD card and mount it as internal memory. I may be mistaken in this.

I think I can easily get back to version 2.3.6 and root my phone again, but Iīm concerned about the next steps in adding internal memory (SD card partition). This is where it went wrong before.

I believe I installed ROM manager from play.gogle.com and from this app, I installed the clockworkmod recovery. After this I decided to reboot and check that (if) everything was still ok, but the problem may have ocurred earlier.

I could not find the clockworkmod recovery app anywhere.

"did you use rom manager to flash recovery?"

Not sure. I selected some option in rom manager to install clockworkmod, but I donīt remember what the options were.

I donīt suppose Iīll have a lag once I have more internal memory. I would like to focu on this first, and worry about memory usage later (especially since I should have a factory re-set mobile now and it should not have memory problems again yet).

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Clearly you wrecked your own phone, you should read more Teresa, if you had given some time to read a bit before attempting you would have noticed that there is no guide anywhere asking you to use ROM Manager on ace for any purpose. That app is an ACE Killer, you installed that app and tried to access recovery through it and BAM! bye bye phone.

We use manual procedures to flash CWM on our phone, manually entering stock recovery mode through home+power button keys and flashing a zip file for CWM, flashing that file installs CWM on the phone, so when we reboot again and enter recovery, it takes us to the clockworkmod recovery and from there we can do all sorts of things.
You can flash patches, mods, custom roms, make/restore nandroid backups, partition sd card, mount partitions, wipe partitions etc.
We never use ROM MANAGER for anything, its quite popular with other phones but completely fatal app for this phone.


Getting more internal memory will not reduce lags, lags are because of ram as i have already said in above post. Increased internal memory will only let you install more apps on the phone.
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I thought I had read quite a lot, but obviously not enough...well, it may be forever wrecked now. ( If it does revive, I will definitely read a lot more and run it by you before attempting. If not....well, I guess Iīll buy another phone.. ( ( (

I just did a search for "Rom manager Galaxy ACE" and saw what you said, but I hadnīt come across this before.

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I thought I had read quite a lot, but obviously not enough...well, it may be forever wrecked now. ( If it does revive, I will definitely read a lot more and run it by you before attempting. If not....well, I guess Iīll buy another phone.. ( ( (

I just did a search for "Rom manager Galaxy ACE" and saw what you said, but I hadnīt come across this before.

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It can be revived easily, just needs a new motherboard. The rom manager's approach at flashing recovery works very well with other phones but since our phone has a different hardware configuration it ends up damaging the hardware.

You should always confirm the procedures and guides you use with as many people as you can, always read the reviews people post and always keep your own common sense with you, its your best safety net.
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I have been trying to update 4 files from PLAY for about 2 weeks now. On 10/31, had 4 files to update. Sizes were 16MB, 13, 6 and 4. None of them would update due to the insufficient memory storage error. Got up this morning 11/1, tried again and the 16MB and 6 did update. The other 2 didnot do to this on-going problem. Trust me , I did not change anything on my phone from the 31st to the 1st. How could that happen?

I tried this a few minutes ago and it worked. I moved the two largest Apps that I could to the SD card. Then I updated the remaining 2 Apps and they all succesfully updated, then moved those apps back to the phone! ( HTC Evo 4G)
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