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Old April 29th, 2011, 06:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Froyo Released For UK Orange !!!

Good News !!

2.2 Froyo has been released in the UK on Orange via Kies !!

It was available this morning !!

Already upgraded with no problems !!

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Good News !!

2.2 Froyo has been released in the UK on Orange via Kies !!

It was available this morning !!

Already upgraded with no problems !!

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Wow. Anyone else got it? At work so can't check.
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If this is the case, I'm awaiting delivery of my Orange Apollo, but I was going to network unlock it. Can I still use the Orange update to to v2.2 but still network unlock it?
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I would wait, get the phone, update to v2.2 via Kies, then get it unlocked. That way you would get the authorised update, you could use it with other network SIMs, but it would retain the Orange branding and features that you seem to want.

It sounds though as if you have bought the phone on Orange to get the lowest deal (?) but really want to use it on another network (?). In which case do you really need the Orange specific apps? If you don't then just get it unlocked and download one of the latest versions of v2.2 from News - www.SamFirmware.com.

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Sorry I'll explain. I've bought it off eBay but knew it was locked to Orange. I didn't know that a v2.2 would be available it was just good (bad) luck that I've seen about it.

I want it network unlocked for a few reasons. I want to use it as a backup phone for any network for my family, might lass it to my daughter, and I want to put a AT&T sim in it when I goto USA in summer (I'm from UK), to be able to use 3G data for the Disneyland queue apps etc

Ok I'll wait till it arrives, update it to v2.2 (or should I leave it at 2.1), then goto a stall and get it network unlocked as it seems too complicated to do it by myself.

I'm a Android virgin so please forgive me, is v2.2 a big update over v2.1 then? Does it add new features? Bug fixes?

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2.1 is to 2.2 pretty much what vista is to win7. Looks mostly same with some minor functionality changes, however under the hood there are many changes that make it more stable and faster. Very much worth the upgrade.
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Excellent, that's a good way of explaining it thanks. So even on the Apollo with it's slower processor it will run better?

Have you done it yet? I'm still awaiting delivery of my phone, but as soon as I do I think I'll update (is this kies thing some PC software you use), then network unlock it.

Is froyo only out on Apollo for orange UK phones then? What about the others?

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Kies is official Samsung software which you will get from the Samsung UK website. There is also Samsung PC Studio but it is Kies that you need for your Apollo. By installing the latest version of Kies you will get the latest USB drivers for Windows, which you need in order to connect your phone to your PC. You could download and install Kies before your phone arrives.

If all goes well, when you open Kies and connect your phone the software will recognise your phone and should automatically tell you if a firmware update to 2.2 is available.

I say 'if all goes well' because many people have problems with Kies.

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Ok thanks will do that while I wait. If it's anything like the old PC studio that I had to use once for my daughters Samsung phone then I'm not looking forward tonit! Was horrible software.
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Good News !!

2.2 Froyo has been released in the UK on Orange via Kies !!

It was available this morning !!

Already upgraded with no problems !!

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Kies showing update available for me too, don't know if just for Orange or not. Will be upgrading as soon as phone fully charged. App to SD here we come!
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Glad to hear 2.2 is available for you !!!

I thought more people would have it by now !!

It certainly speeds up your phone !!

I also own a Galaxy S on Orange contract and it appears that the update for the Apollo offers much the same functionality as its big brother - i.e revised menus, improved music player and GUI etc etc!!

Report back with your findings !!

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I think its currently rolled out just for orange i5801. I have an unlocked i5800 apollo and so far no update on kies. Can anyone with unlocked apollo confirm of any froyo update?
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No update available in Portugal yet. At least not an unlocked i5800.
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Just for the orange branded i5801 at the moment , nothing on kies for my i5800
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I think its currently rolled out just for orange i5801. I have an unlocked i5800 apollo and so far no update on kies. Can anyone with unlocked apollo confirm of any froyo update?
Yes just downloaded it and its awful it has even more Orange branding than the old o/s, I hate it, Orange this and Orange that, even the main window is all Orange cr@p that I cant seem to get rid of. If I cant find a way of shifting all this Orange cr@p then its going in the bin.

Ive waited nearly a year to shed the Orange branding from this less than brilliant phone and now its worse

I HATE ORANGE ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Mr Bonkers, if you're REALLY that bothered about all the Orange stuff then root your phone and delete it. That's the only way. I'm on Orange and use GO Launcher and hide all the apps I don't use so never see any Orange branding. (Well, apart from in Notifications where it says what network you're on etc). You can also create folders in the app drawer which helps keep it tidy. I know the Orange apps are taking up space but my phone runs fine - I might root if I ever install so many apps that I need the space. Apps2SD is the only reason I thought about rooting, but now the official update's out there's no need.
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Hi Thora thanks for the feedback, I am actually a bit calmer now and have the phone almost the way I want it.

i do still have two very big issues, firstly the GPS is usless and wont find the phones location even though the GPS Status app tells me there are lots of satellites over me!! This is really anoying as I would like to use GPS apps. Secondly i was led to believe that 2.2 would allow me to play youtube vids but no, I still cant
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If you're not already using a different launcher, try one. I use GO Launcher but ADW and LauncherPro seem popular. That should help hide Orange branding. ALthough you could use the Samsung TouchWiz one that's already on the phone. GPS was a bit dodgy when I first got the phone, but after a while it ran pretty much perfectly. I'm not sure what I did now, ha. After updating to 2.2 it's back to being a bit dodgy. Outside is usually okay and quite quick to get a lock, but inside is a bit rubbish. But then that doesn't really matter. Typing *#*#1472365#*#* used to help but that doesn't work in 2.2. Do you use the YouTube app or try viewing the site in a browser? The app works fine for me. Try the Skyfire browser if you want to view flash in a browser.
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Thanks again, i'll try some of your suggestions re Youtube

I doubt if any phone will get a GPS fix indoors would it? I know my Tom Tom wont, but my phone keeps telling me I am miles away from where I am and it seems a bit random too depending whether I am using maps or other GPS apps. The map doesnt really matter to me as when in the car I use TomTom but I paid for an app called GPS Essentials which is effectively a geo location camera app that I do want to use but it tells me I'm in central London when I am in mid Kent!!!

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Until I updated to froyo I was getting a decent fix with GPS in some rooms of my house. (It was putting me in the shed, about 10-15 metres away - and that was without wifi enabled). Now it's back to how it was when I got the phone - about half a mile down the road. It's okay when I go outside though. When I was first got the phone it would put me in bleeding Kensington and I'm in the midlands! It hasn't done that for ages, thankfully.
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Dont know what Ive done but Yoytube is now OK And Ive even had a fix while out on the GPS app

All is good in the world tonight...
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I have tonight upgraded my version of Kies to version Samsung says was released on 03 May 2011 (v.2.0.0.11044_11_3) - but it looks exactly the same (v.2.0.0.11044_11 appears on screen).

When I check my phone firmware via this version of Kies, it tells me I have the latest firmware - which I don't, I have 2.1.

But the Samsung site lists a 2.2 firmware upgrade for my phone (I5800) as being available ("You can download it according to OS and language", woo hoo!).

Clicking on that option takes you back to the screen to update your Kies - which I've already done!

Or have I?

My phone is on Orange but was bought from the Carphone Warehouse and isn't Orange branded. It's not quite three months old.

Before I submit myself to what is no doubt the hell of Samsung Customer Services to try and get this query answered, can anybody help?
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Have you tried a different SIM card to see whether it is actually network locked to Orange? Was the box that the phone came in a standard Samsung box (with maybe an Orange sticker on it) or is the box Orange branded, ie basically a black box with the Orange logo and orange writing?

You say the phone is an i5800 but you appear to be trying to download the Orange 2.2 update which is for the i5801. First of all establish which phone you have. The I5800 is the global version of phone while the I5801 is exclusive to Orange. See this link

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It's a Samsung box and the phone has no Orange branding. It merely came from the Carphone Warehouse with an Orange Sim inside the box. The box bears the name i5800, as does the phone on switch-on. Looking at your link, the phone has the angled home key and shiny back of the i5800. No Orange badge externally; no Orange branding in the software.

I do not have another SIM card to try in it, and judging by the difficulty the man at Carphone Warehouse had getting the Orange one in it, anyway - lots of jamming in with a plastic card - it's not a route I fancy taking, in case I end up with an altogether non-functioning phone.

On the Samsung website when I enter my model number i5800 - NOT i5801 - to select "available downloads" I am sent to the page I mention in my post above. Nowhere is i5801 mentioned on the list of firmware or software, nor, on the Samsung website, is there any mention of Orange.

My query is also regarding Samsung Kies - and, having uninstalled and reinstalled the software to my computer now, also, rather than just upgrading it - I am puzzled as to why my computer still shows v.2.0.0.11044_11 when the "upgrade/new version" I download from the site says it should be v.2.0.0.11044_11_3. The _3 version of the software is dated 03 May 2011 on the website and that is the one I am attempting to download; in addition a new manual is shown for Froyo (UK and Cyprus) for the i5800.

I'm sure I'm not the only one totally confused by whether there is an update or not. I have the phone, I'm on the network for which people are saying there is an update: yet I don't have an update.
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Okay try this.

Whether you are upgrading via Kies or by flashing your phone using ODIN, it is always best to do a 'clean' installation, by wiping old data from the phone's internal memory first. The presence of old data in the internal memory can cause problems.

Backup any contacts etc you want to keep by transferring them to your PC using Kies etc.

Then, Factory data Reset your phone by entering the code *#*#7780#*#* on your keypad, or by going into Settings>Privacy>Factory Data Reset. This will wipe the cache of old data.

Then go to Settings>Wireless and Network>USB Settings and select Samsung Kies.

Open Kies on your PC and once it is running connect your phone with the USB cable. Kies should detect the type of phone etc and notify you if there is a firmware update.

If there is, follow the instructions. Don't disconnect your phone until the update is complete and the home screen appears.

Then do another factory data reset. Then switch your phone off and on once or twice to let it sort itself out.

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Thanks - I'm willing to give that a go but I still worry that something is odd abut my Kies download. Can somebody who has succeeded in getting the firmware upgrade please check what version of Kies they have, and report here?

It seems very unusual for the FULL version number to not be shown in the "about" section of a program, in my experience.
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it's not out yet - check my comments in my GPS thread. B
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"I reminded them that it's only officially out on Orange"...

Which I'm on. But I seem to have slipped through some sort of net in that I have an "i5800 on Orange", bought as such, but this is not the same as an "Orange i5800".

Apparently.
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you dont have the orange handset mate you have the same one as me - its not out yet - apparently it is in a week...

the only handset getting it officially is the i5801.. you have the i5800.
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Yes I do... but if you go to the Samsung website and ask for available updates for the i5800 (not i5801) it shows you an available firmware update for it... plus an updated pdf manual for "Froyo UK and Cyprus"). You then can't get to the update using Kies... which is kind of where I came in.

When it comes down to it I bought an i5800 on Orange - I didn't deliberately buy an unbranded/unlocked phone and stick an Orange SIM in it. It was a package. So is it unreasonable to expect the update at the same time as other Orange users?

It would be nice to have an official statement from one or all of Samsung, Orange or Carphone Warehouse with a definitive answer and a definite date.
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thats standard practice from carphone warehouse - they have the same unlocked handset and just sell you the contract / sim you want. you'll find that a lot of people, including myself would rather have an unbranded phone like this.

They've, maybe rather stupidly / prematurely updated their website generically to show froyo manuals without everyone having (official) access to froyo yet.. go figure..

its coming. wait a week.
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Yeah I have heard about the Orange branding thing, but kind of after the fact. I've never had an obviously branded phone in the past so this one just looked normal to me.

I think maybe the only thing we can be sure of happening "in a week" is next Thursday!
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I got mine from CPW too, after reading the above I took out my Orange SIM and swapped it for a Three SIM and it seems they sold me an unlocked phone too.

It never crossed my mnd that it might be unlocked but I did notice that it doesn't have any orange branding on it.
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Until I updated to froyo I was getting a decent fix with GPS in some rooms of my house. (It was putting me in the shed, about 10-15 metres away - and that was without wifi enabled). Now it's back to how it was when I got the phone - about half a mile down the road. It's okay when I go outside though. When I was first got the phone it would put me in bleeding Kensington and I'm in the midlands! It hasn't done that for ages, thankfully.
It must be something with the phone as the GPS placed me in Kensington and I'm in Newport South Wales! And it also places me approximately half a mile away as well.
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I got fed up with waiting - the wifi connection issue I had with 2.1 was driving me nuts and that was driving my other half nuts so he used the upgrade method at the top of the forum.

So far, so good... I now have 2.2 and it's much better now.
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If this is the case, I'm awaiting delivery of my Orange Apollo, but I was going to network unlock it. Can I still use the Orange update to to v2.2 but still network unlock it?
yeah you can mate i have done it and it worked for me
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Thumbs up froyo released i5800

Froyo has been released for the unbranded i5800 as of yesterday. currently charging my phone. :P
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Hello guys
I have LOCKED the orange mobile .. if I upgrade to froyo it will unlock ?
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