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Old February 23rd, 2011, 01:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thanks to Nickrussel I found this out.

First download the app any cut. Go to your home screen and make a short cut. Obviously choose any cut, and then choose activity. Then look for LTE Functionality test. Then click it when its on the home screen. Notice at the top the two options OMG this is amazing! I tested it to in an LTE area, and it stayed on x1 instead of going to LTE. I'll do more testing, but so far we have a way to turn it on and off!! Again great find thanks to Nickrussel, awesome app find man!

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yeah, any cut gives us access to a lot of hidden phone features, doesn't it?
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This might help rootin and sure as hell save battery life. Once again great find.
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Now its time to explore and see what else we can find hehehe.
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Sure. I've stumbled upon any cut and those no-root tethering apps (just started a new thread on the no-root tethering) while searching for where android stores the ssid/wpa wpa settings... I wish there was a way of copying everything from NAND to a folder on PC for further exploration. With the temp-root that we can now do, doesn't sound like an impossible task... Any ideas?
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You can do a system dump with adb.
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I'm not sure on the commands on how to do that, but there's a way to with ADB have the phone dump all files to your computer from the phone.
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I'm finding this thread: need system dump from the new moment 2.1

and - fudge! - now when I'm about to dive into this thing, I'm having connection issues again when the phone is not recognized by the PC, I see Mike started a new thread on that, let me see what he has to say...
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lol i found a thing under activity says "change sim pin" lol stupid ass metro kept repeating "THIS IS NOT A SIM CARD" lies, i swear fracking lies.
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the sim card is for LTE
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Yeah but they kept telling me at every corporate meeting not to "refer" to it as one. Claimed it was called a IMEI card or some shit. But ya I knew it was one, and this proves it lol.
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Wow i'm finding tons of stuff under any cut, developer stuff that i'm not supposed to know. Like cell broadcast SMS lol.
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to bad i can't find "enable root permissions" lol
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Hmm I need to find out what the SPC code is.
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What the hell, I just found under data a hybrid mode cdma only mode and EVDO only mode.
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Spare parts is another good app for finding hidden stuff. Also hidden settings.
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Still though any cut found more stuff then spare parts. Woah docking settings lol. Found another thing called Device Administrator, its empty though.
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K found yet another item that's called GSM/UMTS options. Has use only 2G networks on it, but its greyed out. As in the had it on the phone, but yet hide it from users, what bs. And its still unusable cause its greyed out. Unfortunately my first idea with the LTE development short cut works, but not as well. Like if you disable LTE it'll "disable" it at the point in time, but I think there's a setting somewhere that forces it to keep searching. Yah the stupid feature which kills are battery. So far I found no way to perm disable it. So almost like end tasking stuff, that's how i'm using the LTE testing thing right now.
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Hmm I need to find out what the SPC code is.
When I called metro and asked for data support center, those guys then redirected me to their metro smartphone techs. The problem I was calling with was the inability to talk and surf at the same time. The tech called me back and gave me my SPC code without my even asking. Once I got into the menu, they had me change the home SID #. Too bad, it didn't help any
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yeah, don't we all wish metro had evdo...
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I got the SPC code just needed a converter. This is the site:

CDG : Devices : ESN, MEID and EUIMID Calculator

Use pseudo esn and plug it into this:

http://modmyi.com/forums/attachments/3rd-party-apps-requests/216991d1236049986-metro-pcs-msl-calculator-app-metropcs-msl_spc-code-calculator.rar

Still haven't found anything useful. I found a rejection message i can set for ignored calls LOL.
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I got the SPC code just needed a converter. This is the site:

CDG : Devices : ESN, MEID and EUIMID Calculator

Use pseudo esn and plug it into this:

http://modmyi.com/forums/attachments/3rd-party-apps-requests/216991d1236049986-metro-pcs-msl-calculator-app-metropcs-msl_spc-code-calculator.rar

Still haven't found anything useful. I found a rejection message i can set for ignored calls LOL.

There is an app in the android market named "MEID Converter"
You enter your phones IMEID number and it calculates the MetroPCS SPC


Man, what a differance with LTE turned off. The phone can actualy last the entire work day without being charged.

Took the phone off charger at 6:30AM when I set off for work.
I sent a few text messages, browsed a few websites, Downloaded a new app, Had a 1 hour phone conference.

It's now 3:06PM and I have 40% of the battery left.
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i had a fully charged phone at 6am, then went to work surfing 4g til 10am phone died bout 10:30 just did this shortcut and gonna try it out tomorrow with another full charge with 4g off
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So you trying the LTE functionality? Again I noticed the only problem is when I start doing data after the LTE is off, it starts to try and connect again. Of course I can force it to disconnect again, but still there must be another app that makes it constantly scan. That scanning is what's killing my battery.

Also i mentioned the GSM/UMTS mode, and no matter what its greyed out. I thought maybe when its in LTE mode it'd allow me to turn off 4G, but it won't. That seriously angers me that it exists on the phone and even says (to save battery enable this), and yet its not an option. I'm guessing this is Metro's doing. I bet they figured "less battery for 4G = less time on 4G = more bandwidth = more money". Also they figure they can force us to buy a spare battery, car charger and whatnot.

Another thing I noticed was the Administrator now under my options. I could have sworn i didn't see it before it was under location/security > select device administrator. After I click it it says no device administrators available.
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Man, what a differance with LTE turned off. The phone can actualy last the entire work day without being charged.

Took the phone off charger at 6:30AM when I set off for work.
I sent a few text messages, browsed a few websites, Downloaded a new app, Had a 1 hour phone conference.

It's now 3:06PM and I have 40% of the battery left.
Mike: when you were browsing, did you turn LTE back on for just that and then off again, or were you browsing on 1x?
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I noticed at least out by me, the x1 for it is horrible like 20 kb, vs when I tested optimus was about 130kb. On LTE i'm at the low point of reception only getting max 2 mb.
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I noticed at least out by me, the x1 for it is horrible like 20 kb, vs when I tested optimus was about 130kb. On LTE i'm at the low point of reception only getting max 2 mb.
I think it's specific to your georgaphy. Just a few hours ago I turned LTE off and ran a speedtest with speedtest.net app on 1x. I was getting ~120-130 Kb down.
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Yeah that's why i said "at least by me" lol. I also have like 1-2 bars of reception. My area is notorious for having poor reception. There's only 2 cell providers that even get coverage, and one is metro lol. Verizon is the other. So AT&T, t-mobile, and sprint are useless in a major metropolitan area right near SF how sad eh? lol
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Yeah that's why i said "at least by me" lol. I also have like 1-2 bars of reception. My area is notorious for having poor reception. There's only 2 cell providers that even get coverage, and one is metro lol. Verizon is the other. So AT&T, t-mobile, and sprint are useless in a major metropolitan area right near SF how sad eh? lol
Which part of the bay are you in? I'm kind of in the same neighborhood, as you are and I've got one more cell phone with T-Mobile. Works like a champ. Sprint, AT&T, Verizon, they all have coverage here. Well, AT&T's coverage in SF & NY cities is notoriously crappy, but that's just the city though...
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I'm literally next to SF, i'm in San Bruno. On top of the hill where i'm at lol there's only 2 providers that work. The other providers are so shitty that inside a house you get zero reception. When i'm talkin 1-2 bars, i'm talking in the lower lvl of my house. Outside i get full bars. Even still our LTE isn't anywhere near Florida's. I was mad in fact because SF was the 6th market to get LTE. South and east of US got there's first. So i'd say two best areas is Texas and Florida. Texas because that's where Metro PCS headquarters is, so big surprise there.
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im over here in Hayward right across the San Mateo bridge and i experience the same crap
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I'm literally next to SF, i'm in San Bruno. On top of the hill where i'm at lol there's only 2 providers that work. The other providers are so shitty that inside a house you get zero reception. When i'm talkin 1-2 bars, i'm talking in the lower lvl of my house. Outside i get full bars. Even still our LTE isn't anywhere near Florida's. I was mad in fact because SF was the 6th market to get LTE. South and east of US got there's first. So i'd say two best areas is Texas and Florida. Texas because that's where Metro PCS headquarters is, so big surprise there.
Silvist: I'm a few miles north-north-west from where you are - a bit down the hill and kind of towards the coast, and I'm getting 5 bras excellent signal on my T-Mobile HSPA+ (3.5G). I average 2 bars on Metro 4G LTE. My next door neighbor is on AT&T. While I don't know how many bars he's getting, I never hear him complain about the coverage. So, maybe you're just so unlucky to be in one of those dead spots. When I take I-280 South, I get dropped calls on both of my phones (but metro, of course, is the worst)
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I'm by highway 1, and on top of that by the coast side. But yeah probably a dead zone.
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K found yet another item that's called GSM/UMTS options. Has use only 2G networks on it, but its greyed out. As in the had it on the phone, but yet hide it from users, what bs. And its still unusable cause its greyed out. Unfortunately my first idea with the LTE development short cut works, but not as well. Like if you disable LTE it'll "disable" it at the point in time, but I think there's a setting somewhere that forces it to keep searching. Yah the stupid feature which kills are battery. So far I found no way to perm disable it. So almost like end tasking stuff, that's how i'm using the LTE testing thing right now.
i have tested this for a good five hours now and it has not once forced back on 4g and i have not noticed any program searching for the 4g coverage either and me and my friend both have it running on our indulge's and same goes for his.

how it appears to be working is if you are in a 4g market and your phone is in 4g coverage and you turn lte off it will stay off.

but if your in a iffy market and your going in and out of 4g and you turn the 4g off while it happens to be in 1x yes it will come back on into 4g.

i was at the bowling alley and it was going from 4g to 1x so i just turned lte off while it was in that 1x state and yes it did go back into 4g but i simply turned it off again once it was in 4g and it has not come back on yet.

Im going to leave lte off and the phone in the 1x state all night and i will report in the morning if it ever switched back to 4g or if it stays in that 1x state but i believe i got it figured out though im pretty sure it will stay in that 1x state
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Mine went all day yesterday with 4G turned off and it didnt come back on.
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i have tested this for a good five hours now and it has not once forced back on 4g and i have not noticed any program searching for the 4g coverage either and me and my friend both have it running on our indulge's and same goes for his.

how it appears to be working is if you are in a 4g market and your phone is in 4g coverage and you turn lte off it will stay off.

but if your in a iffy market and your going in and out of 4g and you turn the 4g off while it happens to be in 1x yes it will come back on into 4g.

i was at the bowling alley and it was going from 4g to 1x so i just turned lte off while it was in that 1x state and yes it did go back into 4g but i simply turned it off again once it was in 4g and it has not come back on yet.

Im going to leave lte off and the phone in the 1x state all night and i will report in the morning if it ever switched back to 4g or if it stays in that 1x state but i believe i got it figured out though im pretty sure it will stay in that 1x state

OK MY RESULTS

it does not have to be a strong 4g market it can be a market where you go in and out of 4g what it is, is this when you switch 4g lte off at that current moment that your turning it off it does have to be in a strong 4g signal with the 4g icon displayed on your phone it can not be flickering between 1x and 4g you want to make sure 4g is displayed when you turn off

and on keeping it disabled to save battery power i will be testing that today and i will return this evening with that iinfo as well.


and to answer what i put up last night before i went to bed

I turned 4g off and when i woke up this morning it was on 1x still and i do have auto sync on so my data on multiple apps are connecting and yes you still have all your data synced on 1x and everything is still pushed to your phone


***UPDATE***

Also i found out that when you turn 4g off it will stay off but if you receive a phone call it turns the 4g/1x radio's off and when you hang up that phone call and it turns the radio's back on it will sit in 1x for a few seconds and then turn the 4g on automatically so you do have to go back in and turn 4g off after a phone call
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Yeah that's pretty much what i've been experiencing.
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Also i found out that when you turn 4g off it will stay off but if you receive a phone call it turns the 4g/1x radio's off and when you hang up that phone call and it turns the radio's back on it will sit in 1x for a few seconds and then turn the 4g on automatically so you do have to go back in and turn 4g off after a phone call
I hope to be able to move to a custom ROM at some point, where it doesn't turn the LTE radio off when receiving a phone call...
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Old February 24th, 2011, 03:44 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I hope to be able to move to a custom ROM at some point, where it doesn't turn the LTE radio off when receiving a phone call...
YES that would be nice because if we prevent the Radio's from turning off then the problem is fixed also we would be able to surf on 4g and talk on cdma

So far i have discovered that making or receiving a phone call will turn 4g back on but thats the only event i found this far that does that.

the other reason 4g comes back on so far appears to be owner error you just got to make sure your in 4g coverage when you turn lte off

it really isint a bother to me i just made the shortcut on my home screen and click it then click lte off and bam it goes off and still staying off

i think people have not tested this extensively yet to realize this

also when texting it does not affect the 4g off/on state it stays where you have it set and when browsing the net on 1x it stays in 1x also


QUESTION: Does anyone think it would be possible to extract the Lte on / Lte off functions from anycut in order to use them to create a simple dedicated 4g off/on toggle button like other 4g phones came with stock
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YES that would be nice because if we prevent the Radio's from turning off then the problem is fixed also we would be able to surf on 4g and talk on cdma

So far i have discovered that making or receiving a phone call will turn 4g back on but thats the only event i found this far that does that.

the other reason 4g comes back on so far appears to be owner error you just got to make sure your in 4g coverage when you turn lte off

it really isint a bother to me i just made the shortcut on my home screen and click it then click lte off and bam it goes off and still staying off

i think people have not tested this extensively yet to realize this

also when texting it does not affect the 4g off/on state it stays where you have it set and when browsing the net on 1x it stays in 1x also


QUESTION: Does anyone think it would be possible to extract the Lte on / Lte off functions from anycut in order to use them to create a simple dedicated 4g off/on toggle button like other 4g phones came with stock
what for? any cut puts a direct shortcut to that function on your home screen. isn't it the same thing?
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what for? any cut puts a direct shortcut to that function on your home screen. isn't it the same thing?
i know but i think for all the beginners it would be safer not to give access to critical files that can brick the phone

and for me personally i rather have a app on my screen that just turns off and on rather then going in deeper into it with all the other options

By the way its now been alittle over eight hours total since my full charge and i have only done about 2 hours worth of mixed usuage on the phone the battery is currently at 52% so i lost 48% in the last eight hours
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i know but i think for all the beginners it would be safer not to give access to critical files that can brick the phone

and for me personally i rather have a app on my screen that just turns off and on rather then going in deeper into it with all the other options

By the way its now been alittle over eight hours total since my full charge and i have only done about 2 hours worth of mixed usuage on the phone the battery is currently at 52% so i lost 48% in the last eight hours
wow! that's great results! you must be in an area with good coverage?
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well its now been eleven hours i would say

i have only about 3 hours worth of total mixed use with about one hour of that on 4g and the rest on 1x and my battery is currently at 40%

I dont know how long it will keep going but i would estimate about 20 hours with no use

maybe 10 or so hours with light to moderate use (more than 3 hours of use)

extremely light use 15 hours thats what i did today extremely light use

heavy use though it would still be a battery hog


Also im in Hayward right across the San Mateo bridge about 45 minutes south/east of San Francisco Ca
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When I turn LTE off, I never get a 1x signal. In order to send or recieve any data at all I have to turn LTE back on. Is anyone else experiencing this?
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it's fascinating to see how the same phone behaves so differently in different markets. given that, I'd say it's a network issue. the whole LTE thing is still such a Beta, especially with metro... lol
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When I turn LTE off, I never get a 1x signal. In order to send or recieve any data at all I have to turn LTE back on. Is anyone else experiencing this?
Not here when i turn LTE off it takes about 5-10 seconds to switch between radios and the 1x pops up also the same in reverse turn LTE on and 5-10 seconds later it turns on and 4g symbol pops up
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hey, Silvist, Baysider and everyone else in sfbay: I'm assuming we're all having this "either talk or surf" instead of both talk and surf the web at the same time, right? The moment I'm making or receiving a phone call, 4G icon disappears and the Internet is put "on hold" like in the good old CDMA/EVDO days. Someone else from a different area said it wasn't the case for them...
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Yeah, I noticed the exact same stuff Nick. We were the last market to receive LTE out of the big markets. So ours is still not yet finished. Supposedly there's like 400/950 towers with LTE. But it feels like the software isn't running like it should either. Basically south and east got LTE before us, Las vegas was like 2nd, and course LA. Still think its lame they just launched Las Vegas for basic coverage, and then they suddenly make it LTE. Another lame thing SUPPOSEDLY is because of Silicon valley in SJ, were supposed to be wired for the best data transfer speed. But so far we get the lowest lol. I swear my market is full of idiots, including the higher ups.
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hey, Silvist, Baysider and everyone else in sfbay: I'm assuming we're all having this "either talk or surf" instead of both talk and surf the web at the same time, right? The moment I'm making or receiving a phone call, 4G icon disappears and the Internet is put "on hold" like in the good old CDMA/EVDO days. Someone else from a different area said it wasn't the case for them...
every time i swear every time i make a phone call my 4g or 1x what ever im on shuts off and no voice/data at the same time there different radios and that bugs me
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every time i swear every time i make a phone call my 4g or 1x what ever im on shuts off and no voice/data at the same time there different radios and that bugs me
that's exactly the issue I've been trying to hold metro down to...
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