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Old November 28th, 2011, 10:36 PM   #52051 (permalink)
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I'd be kind of surprised. My understanding is that the Nexus Prime moniker got dropped a while back due to copyright concerns with Hasbro.

The original Nexus Prime:
if true, it is hard to believe they had an issue with Samsung using "Nexus Prime" but didn't have one with Asus using "Transformer Prime".

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I'll concede that point. Still, in the grand scheme, it's paltry to how much money they make off of each subscriber per year.
But it defeats your entire argument. The main thing VZW cares about is the service plan, and it's in their interest to push whatever phone secures that plan and also brings in bloatware revenue. That means RAZR or Rezound and not GNex.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 10:39 PM   #52054 (permalink)
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Also, for those of you that discount the idea that the Nexus could have had a name change at this stage of the game due to all of the boxing and packaging already being made and the first round of phones already being shipped. Don't forget that they did it to the Incredible.

This was the ORIGINAL box early adopters like me got:



And THIS is the box that the next round got:



FULL name change and packaging change AFTER launch.
I guess I wasn't an early enough adopter. I had to order mine and wait almost a month because it was on back order. I'm just glad I have the AMOLED screen and not the SLCD screen. I'm hoping the same thing doesn't happen with this phone.
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if true, it is hard to believe they had an issue with Samsung using "Nexus Prime" but didn't have one with Asus using "Transformer Prime".
I know, I get at least as many hits if not more about the toy when I'm searching for the transformer prime compared to when I was searching for the nexus prime.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 10:40 PM   #52056 (permalink)
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if true, it is hard to believe they had an issue with Samsung using "Nexus Prime" but didn't have one with Asus using "Transformer Prime".
Transformer Prime isn't the name of a character, but I bet Hasbro could have made a case out of that if they wanted to. I'm guessing Asus paid Hasbro. Maybe Samsung decided it was better to just change the name rather than pay for using "Nexus Prime." Or, maybe the name was changed for another reason entirely. Who knows?
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I thought AT&T and T-mobile didn't use that particular 2G frequency?
It is possible that the frequency involved is a harmonic relative of one that VZW does use, or they are just using the belt and suspenders approach the issue.
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But it defeats your entire argument. The main thing VZW cares about is the service plan, and it's in their interest to push whatever phone secures that plan and also brings in bloatware revenue. That means RAZR or Rezound and not GNex.
agreed. contracts being equal for all 3 phones, they still have a vested interest in selling more of a phone they are being paid to bloat up (Razr, Rezound) over one they are not making that money off of (GNex).
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I thought I would share with everyone an experience I just had two minutes ago! I had the Verizon rep call me who was appointed to me by the Verizon exec office I emailed. Needles to say, with all the pre-order rumors, I was very excited!!! Especially knowing midnight Eastern time was just about to hit.

After a quick conversation, she tells me no release yet, and just a follow up call. She scheduled another call for the beginning of the second week of December!!! GRRR!!!! Why me! I was hoping for it too when I saw the caller ID!!!

Clarification: The rep who called me is not a local store person, is not a CSR, and is someone from the exec's office.
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How does verizon make money off of bloatware. Do they preload the phones with their own freemium apps or something?
Companies pay money to get thier apps pre-loaded onto a phone, in the hopes that users will continue to pay to use those services.

Some examples:
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Those are 3rd party bloatware, of which Verizon adds thier own.
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I'd argue that I like backup assistant and my Verizon, so I don't mind them being there. My Verizon doesn't run in the background, and Backup Assistant runs a super minor process at night.

I have heard a reliable counterpoint that it's actually the manufacturers who get paid for the bloatware, and not Verizon. Honestly don't know the answer here.
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Thank you. Nothing. I'm waiting until midnight to see what happens.. I'm chatting on the android channel on irc
where can i find the info on the irc channel?
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contracts being equal for all 3 phones, they still have a vested interest in selling more of a phone they are being paid to bloat up (Razr, Rezound) over one they are not making that money off of (GNex).
I wonder if their worried that all the data usage control the GNex offers will mean they see less money just for the contract on that phone.
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But it defeats your entire argument. The main thing VZW cares about is the service plan, and it's in their interest to push whatever phone secures that plan and also brings in bloatware revenue. That means RAZR or Rezound and not GNex.
But isnt the nexus one phone that would really pull people from other networks because the previous two nexus models were never offered on verizon? And it has a software set that really sets its self apart from everything else out atm.
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where can i find the info on the irc channel?
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I use the icechat client available at IceChat IRC Client :: IRC Client Extra-Ordinaire :: The Chat Cool People Use but anyone will do. There's an easy web way: freenode Web IRC (qwebirc) Type in a name and then #Androidforums for the channel and you're in!

Also found here http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus/401681-official-galaxy-nexus-pre-release-thread-pre-orders-tomorrow-11-29-a.html#post3115102
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where can i find the info on the irc channel?
If you're using a client like Chatzilla (desktop) or AndIRC (Android, free in the Market) here's how to get on -

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I don't know the other clients, sorry.

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Ah hahahahhaa!

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I thought I would share with everyone an experience I just had two minutes ago! I had the Verizon rep call me who was appointed to me by the Verizon exec office I emailed. Needles to say, with all the pre-order rumors, I was very excited!!! Especially knowing midnight Eastern time was just about to hit.

After a quick conversation, she tells me no release yet, and just a follow up call. She scheduled another call for the beginning of the second week of December!!! GRRR!!!! Why me! I was hoping for it too when I saw the caller ID!!!

Clarification: The rep who called me is not a local store person, is not a CSR, and is someone from the exec's office.
not doubting you, but weird that exec office people working at 11:30pm+ EST??? Even if she's West Coast - still late to be working, huh?
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So if this thing does go up for preorder tomorrow, what timezone do you guys think they'll use to define tomorrow?
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not doubting you, but weird that exec office people working at 11:30pm+ EST??? Even if she's West Coast - still late to be working, huh?
Yeah, that is what I thought the last time she called too. She called me just before the 11/21 supposed leak date as well, same time to say the same thing. I posted then about my disappointment as well (post #35043, November 18th, 2011 at 02:18 AM). I am truly bummed. I was looking forward to this, so I logged in to tell everyone else. I hope she is wrong, but I will keep holding onto the idea of waiting until 12/31/11.

Ohe yeah! We are both West coast. She works in the Western region office.
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So if this thing does go up for preorder tomorrow, what timezone do you guys think they'll use to define tomorrow?
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not doubting you, but weird that exec office people working at 11:30pm+ EST??? Even if she's West Coast - still late to be working, huh?
I was thinking the same thing. I have the number of the VZW rep that called me claiming to be with the Executive Offices. When I called him back, he answered the phone that way. I've often wondered if I called him from a different number if he would answer the phone the same way. In other words, I am wondering if it was just a CSR or if it was THE CSR. Anyone want the number to try it for yourself?

PM me and I will give it to you.

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So if this thing does go up for preorder tomorrow, what timezone do you guys think they'll use to define tomorrow?
VZW headquarter is located in NJ, so I guess Eastern Time?
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But it defeats your entire argument. The main thing VZW cares about is the service plan, and it's in their interest to push whatever phone secures that plan and also brings in bloatware revenue. That means RAZR or Rezound and not GNex.
If Verizon was really that concerned about the bloatware, they never would have agreed to sell the GNex.

Seriously, why agree to sell something you have no intention of selling. Makes zero sense.

Secondly, I have it on good authority that the ones who get paid for 3rd party bloatware are the manufacturers......NOT Verizon. I don't know if that's true, but I do trust the channel that came from. If so, then there is no reason to push one phone over another.

And lastly, the iPhone has no bloatware, and gets marketed and pushed quite heavily.

I'm pretty sure my position has been restored.
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You'd think so, wouldn't you? It's weird to see these other mediocre phones in the spotlight and few people hearing about Nexus.

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So in like 3 minutes then?

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FOUR MINUTES!!!!


Until nothing happens and we end up picking another day for pre-release.
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And I thought I had it easy in California. What time is midnight eastern time for you?
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Verizon's website is going to overload in 5-4-3-2-1......
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Think they are ~8 hours behind EST
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I hope she is wrong, but I will keep holding onto the idea of waiting until 12/31/11.
smart. me too. Love the excitement of the anticipation, but IMO, going to wait until I can touch and feel. I was one of the 1st with the DInc and it has served me VERY well until I dropped it a few too many times

You know what though? Having to !%$#^ wait is really frustrating!
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NOTHING new on VERIZON!!!!
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lol, it did on my end.
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Well they changed the Cyber Monday deals slide to show just another Holiday Savings slide.

I am disappoint.

HOWEVER, the free DInc2 thing is still going on so maybe it's not officially Tuesday in Verizonland yet!
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On mine, too.
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FOUR MINUTES!!!!


Until nothing happens and we end up picking another day for pre-release.

Actually the announcement will come tomorrow at 10am
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Sigh!!! pfft!!!! blffffft! That is the sound of my bubble bursting!!! went to verizon and found no love there. Now I am throwing a pity party.......blah
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Anyone shocked by the lack of a certian samsung branded phone on the VZW website!?
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has anybody seen the eweek article saying they reached out to Verizon who wouldnt comment? not good...

Samsung Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Droid 4 on Tap From Verizon - Mobile and Wireless - News & Reviews - eWeek.com
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