If Verizon is having dismal sales then bringing on the GNex could only help, not hurt, sales. Also sales of individual phones hurt the manufacturer much more then the carrier. Moto sales and fourth quarter numbers are going to be hurt with lack of RAZR sales, Verizon only cares about getting people onto contracts, which brings me back to point one.
The reason they would push back the GNex to boost Q1 numbers would only be if Verizon's December numbers are much better then expected, not worse.
This is true assuming Verizon doesn't advertise/market. The RAZR is being heavily marketed by VZ. Millions of $$$ lost on poor sales is my guess...
chesterharry needs to read this thread, because I read about the disabling of Google Wallet weeks ago. He says, "To me the NFC Google Wallet disabling is more than a small issue, and something I am surprised hadn't been revealed earlier. Most likely this is the root of the delay of this phones release."
There is no delay. Hans sister said that a while back. The delay is actually a charade. Now that we are past that...
Excerpt of my twitter conversation with @PydePypper this morning (for what it's worth)...
Me:
Morning all... Sadly, the #GalaxyNexus is rapidly becoming #vaporware... @VerizonWireless @VZWSupport @VZWnews
@PydePypper:
@PerCompLLC Nah.... just to much bad info went around which has people upset. Was never coming as soon as thought in the 1st place
Me:
@PydePypper @Tech_Addiction Yeah, I know that it was all rumors... But the real question is, will we see it by the end of the year?
@PydePypper:
@PerCompLLC @Tech_Addiction Unless disaster strikes YES you will for sure see it before Xmas
Me:
@PydePypper @Tech_Addiction You already have a test device, yes?
@PydePypper:
@PerCompLLC @Tech_Addiction I do in fact have a Nexus in my possession currently.
Me:
@PydePypper @Tech_Addiction I've followed you and @P3Droid 's tweets so I knew that you did. You have a VZW device, no?
@PydePypper:
@PerCompLLC @Tech_Addiction @P3Droid Yep mine is for VZW service. Left GSM services yrs ago and won't look back.
I believe a lot of this is true. The GNex wasn't coming as soon as we initially thought, and because of that we've worked ourselves up in a frenzy over rumors.
Verizon has only said this year, and it's still this year. I still believe it will come before Christmas, and hoping for the 8th.
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If Verizon is having dismal sales then bringing on the GNex could only help, not hurt, sales. Also sales of individual phones hurt the manufacturer much more then the carrier. Moto sales and fourth quarter numbers are going to be hurt with lack of RAZR sales, Verizon only cares about getting people onto contracts, which brings me back to point one.
The reason they would push back the GNex to boost Q1 numbers would only be if Verizon's December numbers are much better then expected, not worse.
This is true assuming Verizon doesn't advertise/market. The RAZR is being heavily marketed by VZ. Millions of $$$ lost on poor sales is my guess...This is true assuming Verizon doesn't advertise/market. The RAZR is being heavily marketed by VZ. Millions of $$$ lost on poor sales is my guess...
Which would just be another reason to launch the Nex. If a company's Q4 numbers are in the tank and you have a way that could help them, you don't wait on that, you boost those numbers as fast as you can.
I believe a lot of this is true. The GNex wasn't coming as soon as we initially thought, and because of that we've worked ourselves up in a frenzy over rumors.
Verizon has only said this year, and it's still this year. I still believe it will come before Christmas, and hoping for the 8th.
I respectfully disagree. I do believe they meant to get this out before BF. I do really think that the 17th or 21st was originally planned, but somehow got pulled. The reason may not be known, but I think the ghost ads for $199 are evidence that it missed its first takeoff.
Just my opinion. Not saying yours is wrong.
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I believe a lot of this is true. The GNex wasn't coming as soon as we initially thought, and because of that we've worked ourselves up in a frenzy over rumors.
Verizon has only said this year, and it's still this year. I still believe it will come before Christmas, and hoping for the 8th.
Hmm. But if the reason for the delay is because the LTE version wasn't (isn't) ready, why the Japanese release date announcement? Isn't that a (non-us capable) LTE device, too?
I respectfully disagree. I do believe they meant to get this out before BF. I do really think that the 17th or 21st was originally planned, but somehow got pulled. The reason may not be known, but I think the ghost ads for $199 are evidence that it missed its first takeoff.
Just my opinion. Not saying yours is wrong.
Yeah gotta go with you on this.
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The Galaxy Nexus was probably slated for a mid/late November release however bugs arose during testing which pushed back the release (new OS so not surprising). Everyone that's had the GNex so far said the OTA updates have been improvements. So I think Verizon is just doing what they do and we should see this phone soon (latest is Dec 15th imho).
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Hmm. But if the reason for the delay is because the LTE version wasn't (isn't) ready, why the Japanese release date announcement? Isn't that a (non-us capable) LTE device, too?
i dont remember where i read it, but the japanese/domoco version being released December 2nd is HSPA+, and not LTE.
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So here is my hopefuleness meter for today:
Word from Big Red (of any kind): 4-5
Announcement Tomorrow: 6
Pre-Order Tomorrow: 6
December 8th Release: 8-9
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I respectfully disagree. I do believe they meant to get this out before BF. I do really think that the 17th or 21st was originally planned, but somehow got pulled. The reason may not be known, but I think the ghost ads for $199 are evidence that it missed it's first takeoff.
Just my opinion. Not saying yours is wrong.
Possibly. But ads and such can be made up months in advance. I do think at one time there were dates in Nov, but as issues cropped up, dates were pushed back.
Ads from places like Best Buy are sometimes even done with lots of speculation. For example, they couldn't even get the name of the phone right. If Best Buy was acting on any sort of official info from Verizon, they would have at least got the name correct. And for reference, the name was settled several weeks ago when Google/Samsung announced the phone. And even weeks later, Best Buy still had it screwed up. Just goes to show you that even the littlest details take time to flush out.
Unfortunately, this is just the start of the obsession...never rooted a phone before but want to do that asap on this one (freaking out about it though that I will do it wrong). May root the tablet (if the phone goes ok) but not sure if there is really a reason to yet.
I've never rooted my phones either. I think I'll start with this one.
I was going to play with it for a while before I rooted, but I'm thinking this is how it might go now:
Step 1: Open the Box
Step 2: Charge Nexus
Step 3: Root Nexus
Step 4: Remove MyVerizon & VZW Backup
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Well many of us wanted to send Verizon a message that we wanted the GNEX and not their Motorola pumping.
If the Razr is really not selling then believe me: They hear you loud and clear.
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Yeah, but where's the mention of the OMAP4 processor? Couldn't they find it? I want it confirmed that it's the 4460, not the 4430.
TI confirmed it's the 4430 in the RAZR, and 4460 in the GNex. Talked about similar "experience" between the two similarly clocked SoCs, but said the 4460 does have extra features.
I'm sure you can find it through a search. I'm not worried that the GNex has a 4460.
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Which would just be another reason to launch the Nex. If a company's Q4 numbers are in the tank and you have a way that could help them, you don't wait on that, you boost those numbers as fast as you can.
I don't think their Q4 numbers are in the tank. We live in an Android world, so we think that less-than-expected sales of the RAZR and ReZound = a poor quarter for Verizon. But remember, this quarter saw the launch of the iPhone 4S, which sold extremely well. I'd say Verizon has had a great Q4, even if less than expected because of the poor Android performance.
I've never rooted my phones either. I think I'll start with this one.
I was going to play with it for a while before I rooted, but I'm thinking this is how it might go now:
Step 1: Open the Box
Step 2: Charge Nexus
Step 3: Root Nexus
Step 4: Remove MyVerizon & VZW Backup
Currently, My Verizon doesn't need a rooted device to be removed. That may be changed in the GNex. My Verizon also doesn't consume any backup resources, so I'm not sure peoples aversion to it. However, I have heard that Verizon is doing some pretty signifigant updates to it, so it does a lot more than just telling you your account status, so maybe it will end up a resource hog. But right now, it's just a tiny app that only runs when you use it (and I admit, I do find it useful).
Backup Assistant would require root to remove. However, I will say I mysteriously had a contact deleted from my phone. Since by the time I noticed it was gone, the phone had synced, it also removed the contact from GMail, and Backup Assistant. I wasn't able to recover the contact through GMail, but I was through Backup Assistant. I have no problem with keeping that program.
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Rooting and unlocking the bootloader are 2 completely different things.
My DroidX I rooted right away, but I'm not feeling the need to do it as much with the Nexus. I will probably unlock the boot loader though, because I hate reloading my phone with everything, because eventually I will get bored and want to tinker.
Not sure you have to do anything to unlock the bootloader on the GNex.
Maybe I should do a little more reading in the root section.
All bootloaders are locked. It's for security.
The Nexus line just has an easy unlock command - so yes, you have to unlock the bootloader on the Nexus. Unlike a lot of phones, though, you just have to issue the fastboot oem unlock command to do it, though.
But yeah... it does wipe the phone.
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i'm confused by this. when i rooted my dinc a month ago it didn't wipe anything?
Rooting a "google experience device" utilizes the "fastboot unlock" command. The script that is launched performs a factory reset during the process. This is a completely different animal then rooting a device based on a discovered exploit as is the case with the majority of android phones that have been rooted to date.
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Yeah, but where's the mention of the OMAP4 processor? Couldn't they find it? I want it confirmed that it's the 4460, not the 4430.
Step 12 indicates that the Multichip Memory Package is "believe[d] to house [...] the main processor." According to other iFixit teardowns, the processor is often hidden underneath another chip. However, as a couple people have said, multiple official sources have confirmed that it'll be the 4460, so never fear.
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I have become utterly disappointed with VZW and the release of the GSN. I have been bragging to my friends that they shouldn't have bought their r-phones and that the GSN will be much better. However, each day I check the thread and various websites only to be disappointed. When will I get the chance to make my friends into haters?
I am not going to state sources due to the recent credibility questions and such from everyone and I'm not allowed to state who they are either but I can gaurentee everyone will see this phone for sale before December 13th. It will be LTE, 32GB model, 1850Mah battery, coming with OS version 4.0.2. The most critical bugs have already been fixed and price will be $299 on contract and a little over $600 off contract. Verizon will make the annoucement the day of the sale and there will not as much marketing with this phone as with the Droid RAZR and HTC Rezound.
I cannot state anymore than this so everyone please take this as you will. I hope this information proves useful to some of you.
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Currently, My Verizon doesn't need a rooted device to be removed. That may be changed in the GNex.
One of the first things I plan on doing when I get this phone is to see if the new ICS ability to disable apps works on these two VZW programs.
I currently use My Verizon on my OG Droid, but have no use for the backup assistant program since I back occasionally export and backup my Google contacts myself.
The Nexus line just has an easy unlock command - so yes, you have to unlock the bootloader on the Nexus. Unlike a lot of phones, though, you just have to issue the fastboot oem unlock command to do it, though.
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