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Old December 1st, 2011, 06:31 PM   #57051 (permalink)
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Guys, you're all misunderstanding this whole grandfathering thing... I think it means that if you are already grandfathered into unlimited you'll be fine, but they won't let anyone else into unlimited after this supposed date. Basically, unless you were grandfathered before they ended unlimited plans in [July?], you won't be able to get unlimited data now.

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Do you have a source for this info?

EDIT: Just read your last post, so come March, if I go to upgrade any time after I'll lose my unlimited data unless I buy a new phone out right? That's pretty lame.
correct. but all of this is just talk coming from a guy that supposedly works for vzw in some capacity. i read an entire thread(or maybe it was buried within another thread) on android central about it a few days back, and it was heavily discussed earlier in this thread as well
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Guys, you're all misunderstanding this whole grandfathering thing... I think it means that if you are already grandfathered into unlimited you'll be fine, but they won't let anyone else into unlimited after this supposed date. Basically, unless you were grandfathered before they ended unlimited plans in [July?], you won't be able to get unlimited data now.
isn't that already the case?

how would one go about getting unlimited today if they didn't already have it?
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Do you (or anyone) know how to just drop one line? My daughter's a $10 add on, and I want to get her onto a different carrier with a smartphone, and cheaper data....

When you sign the new contact at the new carrier, have them take her number. It will automatically come off the old contract... But beware of cancellaion fees if your contract isn't up yet.
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He's given more concrete information that any other sources so far. Excluding Hanette.

Sure he could give a little more info on how he gets his info, but maybe he likes his job. There was a guy NKT in the incredible thread that came up w/ great info at times. He never hung around all day posting inane crap.

The fact that he doesn't hang around here chatting all day should actually be a plus to his credentials.

ANYONE could have created an account yesterday, said they were a secret source, and that the GN was in final phases of testing with a possible release date before 12/13. And then today, posted "testing is over"--- which we've been told it continues even up to the launch... and possible release date of 12/8. He says these things ONLY after several other sources have already said the same things (in regards to actual dates).

Anything else that he says "minor bug" or testing is over or not over could never be proven true or false.

Do you want me to create a new "secret" account with my incredible "insider" info?
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Guys, you're all misunderstanding this whole grandfathering thing... I think it means that if you are already grandfathered into unlimited you'll be fine, but they won't let anyone else into unlimited after this supposed date. Basically, unless you were grandfathered before they ended unlimited plans in [July?], you won't be able to get unlimited data now.

That was already established for a while now. What I'm trying to figure out is why it's being brought up again as I was one of those people who was grandfathered in, I'd hate to lose my unlimited data with 4G phone with amazin 4G coverage here in Jacksonville just cuz I wanted to continue giving Verizon my money. It seems there's talks of the unlimited data infrastructure being altered.
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ANYONE could have created an account yesterday, said they were a secret source, and that the GN was in final phases of testing with a possible release date before 12/13. And then today, posted "testing is over"--- which we've been told it continues even up to the launch... and possible release date of 12/8. He says these things ONLY after several other sources have already said the same things (in regards to actual dates).

Anything else that he says "minor bug" or testing is over or not over could never be proven true or false.

Do you want me to create a new "secret" account with my incredible "insider" info?
wait you have insider info? yes, spit it out, even if you need to create a new account! /sarcasm
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correct. but all of this is just talk coming from a guy that supposedly works for vzw in some capacity. i read an entire thread(or maybe it was buried within another thread) on android central about it a few days back, and it was heavily discussed earlier in this thread as well

Gotcha, yeah I recall someone mentioning it but then it got flooded in the off topic posts and everything else. I used to be with Verizon back in 2008, then I left due to poor customer service on my end and was with Sprint for up until July of this year then I came back and got grandfathered into unlimited data so I'd sure hate to lose it. Coverage is great where I am at, past that I have no other reason to be with VZW.
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HUUUUUGGGGEEEE fan of the Steinheil line. Have had one on my Dinc since Day 1 and it's brilliant. No distortion, no impairment of using the screen, goes on relatively easily (website has a video), and it comes in four options re: hardness, matte, smudge-limiting. $12-13 a pack with 2 to a pack.
Another vote for the Steinheil. Had one on my Dinc since day 1 as well. I checked with Steinheil, and they only have 2 options right now: Ultra Oleophobic and the Flex series - both of which are new to me. I was hoping to see the Ultra Crystal, but either way I will be picking up one of the two options.

Now to just find out which one of the two are the best.
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I don't know if he/she is a legitimate tester or just someone looking for attention, but I will say that it isn't really reassuring for any "source" of information when everyone bags on the people offering up what they know. There have been a bunch of testers on this site in the past and many of them handed out some really great information, but most of them didn't want to post in the open forum due to exactly what is happening with this.

If you don't believe someone, that is fine. There isn't any reason to jump all over someone because they aren't willing to reveal everything they know or post pictures or their drivers license. Most of the people that do post are under an NDA and what they are doing could cost them their jobs or even get them a court date. So be nice and accept what people say or ignore it, but don't bash over it.


OTD - I completely agree with you. But if you know something about a pre-sale... then say it. Do you really think that he'll get in trouble for saying that, but not saying the actual release? If there is a "minor bug"... then what is it? He's just screwing with people and it pisses me off.

Waiting for the "Mad bro?" reply
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No... sorry. You have to finish the contract on that line. You could kill one of your lines that's off contract and take hers over. You'd lose the upgrade though.
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Another vote for the Steinheil. Had one on my Dinc since day 1 as well. I checked with Steinheil, and they only have 2 options right now: Ultra Oleophobic and the Flex series - both of which are new to me. I was hoping to see the Ultra Crystal, but either way I will be picking up one of the two options.

Now to just find out which one of the two are the best.

Are you getting them online or instore? Either way... where? And which one would everyone go with? Thanks...
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Why are you guys thanking him? Yesterday he said "before the 13th" and "final stages of testing"... today it is "testing is over" and "the 8th".

He is just regurgitating what everyone else is saying. Notice that he has not nor will not give any information about anything that we don't know. He is just one those great "gut" people.
Exactly. I thought "sources" had to be "properly vetted", someones sister or the piano teachers son. Lol.
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Another vote for the Steinheil. Had one on my Dinc since day 1 as well. I checked with Steinheil, and they only have 2 options right now: Ultra Oleophobic and the Flex series - both of which are new to me. I was hoping to see the Ultra Crystal, but either way I will be picking up one of the two options.

Now to just find out which one of the two are the best.
I am with you, I am ordering one of those two tonight, but it was said earlier to not pick up anything that says "smudge-resistant" so I am not sure
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I have the Steinheil Ultra Oleophobic on my iPod touch 4g and a Steinheil anti-finger print on my DINC. I like the Ultra Oleophobic; it looks very clear to me, much clearer than the anti-finger print, which is kinda matte.
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I was told you should NOT switch to a non-smartphone. Doing so will trigger the limited data plan once you switch back to a smartphone...That is what the person told me from the corporate store near me yesterday when I asked about activating a feature phone until the nexus arrives (since my dinc is dead). He said it had to be a smart phone (luckily, my mom has an old blackberry I can use). I'm afraid you might have screwed yourself out of unlimited data
This is how I've always known them to apply it. I've never seem them let you keep a data plan with a "dumb phone" even if your willing to pay for it. We've tried to do it at least 2x with the company for a month when a device was broken moving devices around between users and even our business rep could never promise something like that.

I would be very careful and be sure to some how get some very clear documentation that you will get to "keep" unlimited data doing this.
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i dont think they are talking about changing the contract for those who are currently in unlimited, but rather ending the grandfathering into it. so the next time you sign a contract, grandfathering wont be allowed. there was talk that purchasing the phones unsubsidized may be a workaround because you wouldnt be signing a new contract only continuing your current one, but all of this is still in the works and being talked through
Well since they went to the 2 GB and 5GB plans they have already ended the unlimited "grandfathering". Anybody that signs up for data now has to chose a package.

I saw that AC thread too. It would stink if they try to hose you out of unlimited for upgrading your phone. I guess I could if they eliminate unlimited if you change your plan - depending on how you change your plan. It's obvious their goal is to get rid of us "unlimiteds"
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I am happy to tell everyone that all final testing has been concluded. All bugs (with the exception of one very minor bug that 99% of you will never see) have been resolved and passed quality check. December 8th has been officially set as launch date (internally for now) and there are no further plans for any delays. I cannot talk about preorders however and please do not consider this at all an official announcement until Verizon says so but I hope many of you will find this helpful in your decision making.

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i honestly think y'all will take this game. Clemson hasn't played well in a month and your biggest strength (running QB) is our defense's biggest weakness. Hopefully our offense can pull it together, but our only chance is a high scoring game... or a miracle from our terrible LB's.

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Or does anyone?

I know a few people yesterday said the Razr wasn't on the home page but every time I went to the site it was there. Just noticed it wasn't there just over an hour ago.
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I was defending him/her. I tend to believe what he is saying.......
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open1your1eyes... I hope that you are as "inside" as you claim to be. Be honestly, dude... you come in AFTER things have pretty much been said all over the place and confirm what everyone else has already said (yesterday and today). The stuff that we don't know you won't comment on, like pre-sale. So, if you are legit... my sincerest apologies. But if you are not in the know, then please don't toy with people.
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What is that "very minor bug"? That will completely demonstrate your legitimacy.
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Why are you guys thanking him? Yesterday he said "before the 13th" and "final stages of testing"... today it is "testing is over" and "the 8th".

He is just regurgitating what everyone else is saying. Notice that he has not nor will not give any information about anything that we don't know. He is just one those great "gut" people.
I'll be honest, I'm not going to reply to a lot of such comments as I'm not here to prove my credibility (hence why I stated from the start take everything I say as you will) but just wanted to clarify something.

  • December 13th was an internal launch deadline that was set regardless of the outcome of final testing as they only involved minor bugs. Verizon wanted to have this phone out by then even if it required a patch update post release.
  • December 8th has been set as the tentative launch date ever since the initial bugs were ironed out and only after the minor bugs were discovered, it was decided that a few days delay should become a possibility in case they couldn't guarantee December 8th due to ongoing testing.
  • However, the results are now in and they have been deemed acceptable hence the original date of the 8th is now internally official. I am only here to report this info and not to say that this is publicly set.

I really want to point out however to not take anything I say as official. We all know nothing can ever be 100% until you hear it publicly from Verizon (and even then last minute changes are always possible). I am only stating what is the current status.

I really appreciate all the thanks so far and I will update you guys if I hear anything else related to launch and preorders.
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I guess with the phone getting so close we may get an influx of new people checking out the thread, having a more streamlined thread would be helpful to those folks.

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It's amazing, really...

People here crave and clamor for more info all the time. The second we get something, be it questionable or not, people jump down the sources throat about how credible he is, become hostile, and demand even MORE info to prove his worth.

Folks, if you don't want to believe them, then don't. But it's stupid to become hostile to someone giving us info (real or not). How the hell do you expect anyone in the know to come in and give us anything when you treat people that do so like crap? It makes ME mad because you are ruining it for everybody else!

He came in. He was polite. He wasn't cryptic. He posted what he claimed he knew. If he does know anything that was really nice of him since he just risked his job to do so. If he doesn't and you chose not to believe him, well then that is your business and your right, but have some courtesy and don't call them out publicly in order to satisfy YOUR disbelief. I have to be honest, if I was working for Verizon and I had some type of knowledge, and I saw the way some of you treated that person, I'd take my news elsewhere or keep it to myself.
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Just hide everything. It will be like an Easter egg hunt!
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It's amazing, really...

People here crave and clamor for more info all the time. The second we get something, be it questionable or not, people jump down the sources throat about how credible he is, become hostile, and demand even MORE info to prove his worth.

Folks, if you don't want to believe them, then don't. But it's stupid to become hostile to someone giving us info (real or not). How the hell do you expect anyone in the know to come in and give us anything when you treat people that do so like crap? It makes ME mad because you are ruining it for everybody else!

He came in. He was polite. He wasn't cryptic. He posted what he claimed he knew. If he does know anything that was really nice of him since he just risked his job to do so. If he doesn't and you chose not to believe him, well then that is your business and your right, but have some courtesy and don't call them out publicly in order to satisfy YOUR disbelief. I have to be honest, if I was working for Verizon and I had some type of knowledge, and I saw the way some of you treated that person, I'd take my news elsewhere or keep it to myself.

but the thanks they are getting may have been ill gotten!


good post, btw
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My BS meter is surprisingly quiet regarding open1your1yes.

December 8, I believe, will be a day of joy and angst.

Joy at finally holding the over-ripe fetus in my hands.

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Well, as I did state before, I choose to keep my sources anonymous for variety of factors including the fact that many people question credibility and legitimacy. So like my original comment earlier in this thread: take this as you will and by no means should you consider this official until Verizon states it.



I'm sure you can understand if Verizon doesn't want to release that information to the public.



I'll be honest, I'm not going to reply to a lot of such comments as I'm not here to prove my credibility (hence why I stated from the start take everything I say as you will) but just wanted to clarify something.

  • December 13th was an internal launch deadline that was set regardless of the outcome of final testing as they only involved minor bugs. Verizon wanted to have this phone out by then even if it required a patch update post release.
  • December 8th has been set as the tentative launch date ever since the initial bugs were ironed out and only after the minor bugs were discovered, it was decided that a few days delay should become a possibility in case they couldn't guarantee December 8th due to ongoing testing.
  • However, the results are now in and they have been deemed acceptable hence the original date of the 8th is now internally official. I am only here to report this info and not to say that this is publicly set.

I really want to point out however to not take anything I say as official. We all know nothing can ever be 100% until you hear it publicly from Verizon (and even then last minute changes are always possible). I am only stating what is the current status.

I really appreciate all the thanks so far and I will update you guys if I hear anything else related to launch and preorders.

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December 8, I believe, will be a day of joy and angst.

Joy at finally holding the over-ripe fetus in my hands.

Angst at having to manually thank 100 of NJ's posts.
Plus it won't be as easy since this thread will be closed... Will have to search out his posts to do it.
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I just got done trolling the comments on VZW's Facebook page and I honestly think the word "nexus" appears at a much higher frequency on their page than our forums. There is a real demand for this device, and that's really exciting.
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One week, everybody!!



Or as Chief would put it: 4 more days!!!
 
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I guess with the phone getting so close we may get an influx of new people checking out the thread, having a more streamlined thread would be helpful to those folks.

As streamlined as a thread with 57k+ posts and over 1000 new ones per day of course.
I thought that's what the op is for. Also, I thought the op warned of off topic banter.
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Well, as I did state before, I choose to keep my sources anonymous for variety of factors including the fact that many people question credibility and legitimacy. So like my original comment earlier in this thread: take this as you will and by no means should you consider this official until Verizon states it.



I'm sure you can understand if Verizon doesn't want to release that information to the public.



I'll be honest, I'm not going to reply to a lot of such comments as I'm not here to prove my credibility (hence why I stated from the start take everything I say as you will) but just wanted to clarify something.

  • December 13th was an internal launch deadline that was set regardless of the outcome of final testing as they only involved minor bugs. Verizon wanted to have this phone out by then even if it required a patch update post release.
  • December 8th has been set as the tentative launch date ever since the initial bugs were ironed out and only after the minor bugs were discovered, it was decided that a few days delay should become a possibility in case they couldn't guarantee December 8th due to ongoing testing.
  • However, the results are now in and they have been deemed acceptable hence the original date of the 8th is now internally official. I am only here to report this info and not to say that this is publicly set.

I really want to point out however to not take anything I say as official. We all know nothing can ever be 100% until you hear it publicly from Verizon (and even then last minute changes are always possible). I am only stating what is the current status.

I really appreciate all the thanks so far and I will update you guys if I hear anything else related to launch and preorders.
Whether its legitimate first person info, or even if its not, the info your giving seems to be accurate so far, and is clearly intended to inform we Gnexers. Many people have done worse things for thanks around here, I have no issue giving you mine. Thanks.
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