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Old December 1st, 2011, 10:13 PM   #57401 (permalink)
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In the absence of proof, we rely on credibility.

Credibility isn't earned by throwing multiple handfuls of dung against he wall while shouting "see, I was right!!" if something happens to stick.

P3 has earned credibility as opposed to some eventually lucky dung throwers.

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FINALLY! Someone believes me.

It really frustrates me how people choose to believe P3. He has no proof to back up his claims and he refused to at least get a screenshot (which is SO EASY TO DO on ICS!)...

I wonder why people believe him when he doesn't even have any proof lol?
Hmm, why do people believe P3droid about this?

1) He has a track record of having and knowing about prerelease devices (NOT release dates, that's just pure BS)

2) He actually has an LTE Gnex, which is more than any of us can say

3) You can't take a screenshot of a screensaver because that requires touching the device and thus deactivating the screensaver... so he took a photo. How is that not proof?

4) This is not the kind of pot stirring P3 delights in. If he was lying it would be more like "omg omg, gnex has a bug, it broke my phone I hate google"

I know he's a Windsock sometimes but that doesn't mean you should discount everything he says.
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He lied about getting 4.0.2; that is, he said he had it before it even existed. Make your own judgment from that...

And I'm just trying to prevent people from buying into his obvious trolling. It's disgusting how many people believe him and he has no proof! He doesn't have 4.1.0, I can tell you that right now with almost 100% certainty.
with all due respect scott, your 100% certainty has turned out to be 0% every step of the way. P3Droid has said a lot that has actually come through.
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I really dont think you have any room to tell people not to believe what someone else says, after all the times you've gotten peoples hopes up.
Well then I guess I'm not telling you not to believe him, but I'm strongly suggesting you don't believe him, because he's just making stuff up and he has no evidence that 4.1.0 even exists. I have better proof/reasons that he doesn't have it than he does that he has it.
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Don't believe P3Droid!

He doesn't have 4.1.0. That's a major OS revision and it would have been pushed to AOSP/documentation would be updated. Google hasn't said anything about it, no one else has said anything about it, that supposed "screensaver" he posted is just the Clock app (there's a night mode)...

Please, PLEASE don't fall for it. I would hate to see all you guys disappointed.
I have nothing but respect for most of your posts, I look forward to reading them as they are usually quite insightful.
That being said your stance on this is ridiculous. Why would we doubt for a minute that he got 4.1? He's using a developer device, designated for testing purposes. Its different than a consumer device. It would be expected for new versions of android to be tested before they are publicly noted or acknowledged.
Also, he posted a screeny.
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With such a large screen that is AMOLED the possibility of burn in is greater which constitutes the need for a screensaver.




I had some words prepared for you before I saw the /sarcasm. Phew. I almost got banned.

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He lied about getting 4.0.2; that is, he said he had it before it even existed. Make your own judgment from that...

And I'm just trying to prevent people from buying into his obvious trolling. It's disgusting how many people believe him and he has no proof! He doesn't have 4.1.0, I can tell you that right now with almost 100% certainty.
Now your making some bold claims. Where is your proof? How are you 100% certain? If he has it, great. If he doesn't, oh well. He is probably dead on on the information. He usually is. Windsock or no, he does have a nexus and we don't, so obviously he has better sources than us.
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I'll ninja'd this this afternoon. :-P
First rule of being a ninja: Don't tell people you're a ninja.
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Well then I guess I'm not telling you not to believe him, but I'm strongly suggesting you don't believe him, because he's just making stuff up and he has no evidence that 4.1.0 even exists. I have better proof/reasons that he doesn't have it than he does that he has it.
I will have to take scott's side on this. 4.1 would be a major revision of the OS.(which isnt even on a US carrier yet as 4.0) P3droids claim seem to be a bit far fetched.
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Well then I guess I'm not telling you not to believe him, but I'm strongly suggesting you don't believe him, because he's just making stuff up and he has no evidence that 4.1.0 even exists. I have better proof/reasons that he doesn't have it than he does that he has it.
every time you tell us something, preorder, release date, source etc you just expect people to believe your word, and your word has been wrong every time that ive seen.
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Hmm, why do people believe P3droid about this?

1) He has a track record of having and knowing about prerelease devices (NOT release dates, that's just pure BS)

2) He actually has an LTE Gnex, which is more than any of us can say

3) You can't take a screenshot of a screensaver because that requires touching the device and thus deactivating the screensaver... so he took a photo. How is that not proof?

4) This is not the kind of pot stirring P3 delights in. If he was lying it would be more like "omg omg, gnex has a bug, it broke my phone I hate google"

I know he's a Windsock sometimes but that doesn't mean you should discount everything he says.
All I asked for was a screenshot of the software version number, at least some proof that he indeed has 4.1.0. He refused, and slyly ignored all evidence I have against him, shooting back with responses such as:

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@MegaphonixMusic your an idiot, i am running 4.1.0 and soon so will the rest of TBH
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Old December 1st, 2011, 10:19 PM   #57411 (permalink)
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This is too funny:

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@P3Droid can u post a screenshot of the about phone screen then?
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@garbaged**k nope...
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Wow, thought I'd just pop in to see the stance of things before bed.

Seems as some are worked up into quite the tizzy.

You bickering maniacs are crazy.
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All I asked for was a screenshot of the software version number, at least some proof that he indeed has 4.1.0. He refused, and slyly ignored all evidence I have against him, shooting back with responses such as:
Sooo, just for full disclosure, how about posting your tweets from the exchange?




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Just asked p3droid to take a screenshot and I got this:
https://twitter.com/#!/P3Droid/status/142458481549639680
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When did it get all 9th grade in here? I just ended drama like this in my first period class today. And that was Freshmen. I wish I was drama adviser, instead of yearbook adviser.
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All I asked for was a screenshot of the software version number, at least some proof that he indeed has 4.1.0. He refused, and slyly ignored all evidence I have against him, shooting back with responses such as:
Nothing against you, read my previous comment, but c'mon man:
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@P3Droid whatever. i know you're wrong but i guess there's no way for me to convince your other 10,000 followers.
27 minutes ago

MegaphonixMusic
@P3Droid looks like the night mode in the clock app...........
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MegaphonixMusic
@P3Droid ok then, that's that i guess. just saying though, you're seriously deceiving your followers and that's not cool...
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MegaphonixMusic
@P3Droid so you're not providing proof that you have 4.1.0, and we should believe you why? like i said, if ICS (cont) tl.gd/eg75np
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@P3Droid rocket launcher... old news
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MegaphonixMusic
@P3Droid couldn't you just grab a quick screenshot and post it to twitter? come on, we all want to see 4.1.0... if it really exists, that is
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@P3Droid pic or it didn't happen... 4.x update won't go without an SDK update. otherwise it's just 4.0.x
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@P3Droid you've really got your followers by the balls, they even believe you when you say you're running 4.1... lmfao
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@P3Droid very clever troll my friend, very clever.
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All I asked for was a screenshot of the software version number, at least some proof that he indeed has 4.1.0. He refused, and slyly ignored all evidence I have against him, shooting back with responses such as:
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Sooo, just for full disclosure, how about posting your tweets from the exchange?




Glad you asked.

Scott, you're a good kid and all that, but you have to understand that when you've spent the last hour sending countless tweets to P3Droid attacking everything he says, he's not bound to be cooperative with your petty requests.

"@P3Droid very clever troll my friend, very clever." is not the way to extract answers. There's a life lesson to be learned here.
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Just asked p3droid to take a screenshot and I got this:
https://twitter.com/#!/P3Droid/status/142458481549639680
And he can't just blur stuff out? Earlier he was downright refusing to take a screenshot, now he's making up some lame excuse. Wow...
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Wow, thought I'd just pop in to see the stance of things before bed.

Seems as some are worked up into quite the tizzy.

You bickering maniacs are crazy.
QFT.

And anyway, who cares what number version it is on right now? It hasn't been released. Whether it gets released with 4.0.2 or 4.1, that is still going to be the starting point for the device. Since there was nothing to compare it to in the past since it hasn't been released yet, then it really doesn't matter, it's a number that doesn't mean anything.
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This is too funny:
Not really... you just think its funny because he said the exact same thing to you. But anyways, I believe P3 mostly because (as stated before by TheRosevelt) he is a trusted and well known guy in the android community
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P3Droid just said there is stuff that a screenshot would show that he doesn't want people to see. Why lie? He has never lied about anything worthwhile. He is more believable than a lot of people.

I believe his word over anyone else saying that they 100% know he doesn't have it without actually knowing it. If he is lying he will lose a lot of credibility but until then I believe him.

Also like others have said he has the LTE version and it is not the same as the GSM model and his is the developer version.
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And he can't just blur stuff out? Earlier he was downright refusing to take a screenshot, now he's making up some lame excuse. Wow...
I think it's a good time to let it go.
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And he can't just blur stuff out? Earlier he was downright refusing to take a screenshot, now he's making up some lame excuse. Wow...
Then he sent me this and well you see my reply LOL
https://twitter.com/#!/psycho_maniac_/status/142459033566191616
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Just asked p3droid to take a screenshot and I got this:
https://twitter.com/#!/P3Droid/status/142458481549639680
I can understand jumping on p3d about some things but in this case it makes perfect sense that he has 4.1 for ics. He is a tester and its their job to test the builds before we get the phone. Everything we have heard today indicates that they think the final build is done and is ready for release. So wouldn't they give it to the testers to make sure its ok?
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Looking good for the Verizon folks. Wish they'd release the GSM version in the USA.
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Can we stop the twitter drama and move on?
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Right on!

I, for one, don't care what's on it.....4.1, 6.70, 100.1, 8675309.....I just want the phone. Maybe they will combine the next two OS updates into KY Jelly?



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And anyway, who cares what number version it is on right now? It hasn't been released. Whether it gets released with 4.0.2 or 4.1, that is still going to be the starting point for the device. Since there was nothing to compare it to in the past since it hasn't been released yet, then it really doesn't matter, it's a number that doesn't mean anything.
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And anyway, who cares what number version it is on right now? It hasn't been released. Whether it gets released with 4.0.2 or 4.1, that is still going to be the starting point for the device. Since there was nothing to compare it to in the past since it hasn't been released yet, then it really doesn't matter, it's a number that doesn't mean anything.

I agree who really cares the version number once this is released to the masses additional bugs are bound to show up and updates will be released. They are just numbers and dots at this point until it's in our hands.
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Fine, I'll let it go. It's just infuriating that when anyone else posts info about anything Nexus-related people scrutinize it and "take it FWIW", and yet he posts a tweet saying he has 4.1.0 and people are on top of it without any reasoning to believe him.

Anyways, letting go of this topic... now

P.S. pre-order party in the IRC woot
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