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Old October 12th, 2011, 02:21 PM   #7001 (permalink)
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This makes me feel a ton better about my usage...

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Let me further clarify my battery statement.. I use about 4gb a day in data so I kill a bionic battery in 4 hours so to get 6 will be great
Wow. This is great! Squares up with what Steven's source said earlier. Heavy, heavy usage and 4 - 6 hours? That's unbelievable. I can't even do that on my OG Droid.

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From what I gather 4460 is basically over year-old CPU clocked to maximum. Bad GPU performance, bad battery life (compared to 4S and anything 28-32nm coming later this year and early next).
I don't know where you're getting thtat it's a year old CPU. It hasn't been used in any phone yet. Also, from concept to mass production, I'd be shocked if any CPU on the market wasn't 8 - 10 months out.

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I was sure about getting this thing but starting to doubt now if pure android really is worth it or better to wait for the second device rumored in Androidpolice (i815?), closer to GSMArena specs?
There will always be a better, faster, crisper device around the corner. As soon as we snatch this up, SGS 3 will be rumored and spec'd.

However, and this is a BIG however, I don't know when I will get another chance for a pure, vanilla, Google-updated phone on Verizon. It may never come again.

I'm snatching this up faster than a I'd grab a baby falling out of a window!

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you've already made 2 7k fail-posts...
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Heaven knows I tried LOL oh well, there's always 8k...

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I don't know where you're getting thtat it's a year old CPU. It hasn't been used in any phone yet. Also, from concept to mass production, I'd be shocked if any CPU on the market wasn't 8 - 10 months out.
technically it's much older than that. but that's not the point lol..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR
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I don't know where you're getting thtat it's a year old CPU. It hasn't been used in any phone yet. Also, from concept to mass production, I'd be shocked if any CPU on the market wasn't 8 - 10 months out.
well i'd guess he's getting that idea from the official TI-website..

OMAP™ 4 Platform - OMAP4430/OMAP4460

same architecture, only different clock speeds, he is totally right...

4460 = higher clocked 4430 (both CPU & GPU)


4470 has a brand new architecture, and of course a brandnew (newer used before) GPU the PowerVr SGX544...

i'd be totally happy if the NP (GSM-Version) comes with the Omap 4470 and not the exynos 4212, but 4460 is not good enough for what i want...
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Starting with 3.1, Android supports USB hosting... I didn't know the gs2 could do it. I guess Samsung implemented that on their own. But, yeah, 4.0 should certainly be able to do it.
I don't see how 4.0 *couldn't, since it's supposed to be on tablets as well. People would be pretty mad if they lost usb host on tabs that already had it. Especially the Xoom when they (well "we" I used to have one) waited so long to begin with.
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From what I gather 4460 is basically over year-old CPU clocked to maximum. Bad GPU performance, bad battery life (compared to 4S and anything 28-32nm coming later this year and early next).

I was sure about getting this thing but starting to doubt now if pure android really is worth it or better to wait for the second device rumored in Androidpolice (i815?), closer to GSMArena specs?
OMAP 4460 began sampling in Q1 2011.
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Popping my head in here..... been following the thread for weeks. I've unfortunately felt from the beginning that the super cutting edge rumors about specs were fanciful. The really kicker to keep me away is lack of SD slot -cmon google! Cloud storage does not compare for me, especially for streaming music/vids/etc. I use my DX2 as my goto device for all music. 90% of pictures. I want an SD do card to not only store, but easily hot-swap to my PC. I use dropbox, but lets be realistic, it's a backup option. Cloud storage has serious limitations AND most importantly forces the user into possibly being leveraged more and more as time goes along by those holding the cloud based services. Also, as others have mentioned, you dn't always have connectivity and not everyone has unlimited data (of which at some point even those grandfathered in will lose it one way or another). I see cloud based stuff as just another way to generate more revenue for those owning the cloud services.

Unfortunately, this phone is not looking to be the ground breaking device as rumored. Very nice phone, but not really much ahead of the SGS2 itself that is over 6 months old. Contenders for my money are still the Spyder/Razr and the Vigor. My DX2 isn't exactly killing me as it's running well overall, so I should just show patience I suppose. LIke everyone else, I am somewhat disappointed in the specs that seem to be shaping up as likely and my excitiment level is dampened. I'm not going to talk myself into how things like no sd slot are OK because they aren't. Once all three phones hit the market and are into users hands we will know the true differences of the Prime/Vigor/Razr. Until then there is no clear winner although it's pretty obvious by now none of the three will be a vaunted "game changin" device.
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but the GPU is pretty old... ~2 years old, only overclocked... :/
If it decodes 1080p videos and plays games as intensive as angry birds, then it is fine for me. I have an Xbox360. I don't game on my phone. As long as the thing runs smooth and doesn't beep at me to charge it then I'm fine.
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4470 has a brand new architecture, and of course a brandnew (newer used before) GPU the PowerVr SGX544...

i'd be totally happy if the NP (GSM-Version) comes with the Omap 4470 and not the exynos 4212, but 4460 is not good enough for what i want...
I'll admit I was hoping for the 4470, since it sampled out back in juneish. I thought it had a better shot than the exynos 4212 due to that. It has 2 low power cores in addition to the 2 big cores

TI OMAP4470 1.8GHz dual-core coming 1H 2012 to take on Kal-El and Intel - SlashGear
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Popping my head in here..... been following the thread for weeks. I've unfortunately felt from the beginning that the super cutting edge rumors about specs were fanciful. The really kicker to keep me away is lack of SD slot -cmon google! Cloud storage does not compare for me, especially for streaming music/vids/etc. I use my DX2 as my goto device for all music. 90% of pictures. I want an SD do card to not only store, but easily hot-swap to my PC. I use dropbox, but lets be realistic, it's a backup option. Cloud storage has serious limitations AND most importantly forces the user into possibly being leveraged more and more as time goes along by those holding the cloud based services. Also, as others have mentioned, you dn't always have connectivity and not everyone has unlimited data (of which at some point even those grandfathered in will lose it one way or another). I see cloud based stuff as just another way to generate more revenue for those owning the cloud services.

Unfortunately, this phone is not looking to be the ground breaking device as rumored. Very nice phone, but not really much ahead of the SGS2 itself that is over 6 months old. Contenders for my money are still the Spyder/Razr and the Vigor. My DX2 isn't exactly killing me as it's running well overall, so I should just show patience I suppose. LIke everyone else, I am somewhat disappointed in the specs that seem to be shaping up as likely and my excitiment level is dampened. I'm not going to talk myself into how things like no sd slot are OK because they aren't. Once all three phones hit the market and are into users hands we will know the true differences of the Prime/Vigor/Razr. Until then there is no clear winner although it's pretty obvious by now none of the three will be a vaunted "game changin" device.
Great post, welcome to the zoo!

You're right, we won't truly know until we can hold it in our paws and play with it some. And everyone has different standards, depending on what they use their phones for.

For me, a Google-updated device on Verizon is a "game changer". For others, the hardware specs are where it's at.

I hope you stick around, Teegunn.
 
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As big as fan of bleeding edge technology as I am, the 4460 looks like it will probably do anything I would ask it to do. Here's a nice performance test of the 4430... and the 4460 is gonna be even better.

AnandTech - LG Optimus 3D Preliminary Performance - OMAP4 Tested
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Wow. This is great! Squares up with what Steven's source said earlier. Heavy, heavy usage and 4 - 6 hours? That's unbelievable. I can't even do that on my OG Droid.
Yeah I have never even been over 1G of data for a WHOLE MONTH, but I do text a ton, but I figure I should be good, and will have no issues with the battery.
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I'll admit I was hoping for the 4470. . .
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i'd be totally happy if the NP (GSM-Version) comes with the Omap 4470 and not the exynos 4212, but 4460 is not good enough for what i want...
I have almost no clue about the CPU stuff at all, but I just wanted to ask a general question:


Suppose that Steven's source handled the device say, 3 months ago. (Remember, Steven said he/she is NOT a beta tester.)

Would it be possible for him/her to have handled a phone running an OMAP 4460, but between then and now, it got switched to a 4470?

Steven, I know you can't go into too much detail, and of course you don't have to answer this if it violates confidentiality or something, but do you know when he/she saw the phone?

I remember CK was quite adamant in saying that not all testers were getting the final device. If that is true, and Steven's source isn't a real live beta tester, then it's feasible that he didn't see the final device.

Isn't it? Personally, I'm perfectly happy with the OMAP 4460. I'm just thinking out loud.

Anyone?
 
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I'll admit I was hoping for the 4470, since it sampled out back in juneish. I thought it had a better shot than the exynos 4212 due to that. It has 2 low power cores in addition to the 2 big cores

TI OMAP4470 1.8GHz dual-core coming 1H 2012 to take on Kal-El and Intel - SlashGear
Now THIS would be a game changer :-)

I especially like this line from the article:

"Pin-for-pin, the new OMAP 4 chip is compatible with its predecessors, which means that manufacturers using the older versions face little work to swap over to the OMAP4470."

Now if we could only figure out how to to upgrade the chip down the road lol...
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I have almost no clue about the CPU stuff at all, but I just wanted to ask a general question:


Suppose that Steven's source handled the device say, 3 months ago. (Remember, Steven said he/she is NOT a beta tester.)

Would it be possible for him/her to have handled a phone running an OMAP 4460, but between then and now, it got switched to a 4470?

Steven, I know you can't go into too much detail, and of course you don't have to answer this if it violates confidentiality or something, but do you know when he/she saw the phone?

I remember CK was quite adamant in saying that not all testers were getting the final device. If that is true, and Steven's source isn't a real live beta tester, then it's feasible that he didn't see the final device.

Isn't it? Personally, I'm perfectly happy with the OMAP 4460. I'm just thinking out loud.

Anyone?
Excellent point!

Maybe that's part of the conflicting knowledge going around. Different people saw the device at different stages of development.
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well i'd guess he's getting that idea from the official TI-website..

OMAP™ 4 Platform - OMAP4430/OMAP4460

same architecture, only different clock speeds, he is totally right...

4460 = higher clocked 4430 (both CPU & GPU)


4470 has a brand new architecture, and of course a brandnew (newer used before) GPU the PowerVr SGX544...
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So, I don't think you can get a mobile processor as hot off the press as a newspaper.

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Popping my head in here..... been following the thread for weeks. I've unfortunately felt from the beginning that the super cutting edge rumors about specs were fanciful. The really kicker to keep me away is lack of SD slot -cmon google! Cloud storage does not compare for me, especially for streaming music/vids/etc. I use my DX2 as my goto device for all music. 90% of pictures. I want an SD do card to not only store, but easily hot-swap to my PC. I use dropbox, but lets be realistic, it's a backup option. Cloud storage has serious limitations AND most importantly forces the user into possibly being leveraged more and more as time goes along by those holding the cloud based services. Also, as others have mentioned, you dn't always have connectivity and not everyone has unlimited data (of which at some point even those grandfathered in will lose it one way or another). I see cloud based stuff as just another way to generate more revenue for those owning the cloud services.

Unfortunately, this phone is not looking to be the ground breaking device as rumored. Very nice phone, but not really much ahead of the SGS2 itself that is over 6 months old. Contenders for my money are still the Spyder/Razr and the Vigor. My DX2 isn't exactly killing me as it's running well overall, so I should just show patience I suppose. LIke everyone else, I am somewhat disappointed in the specs that seem to be shaping up as likely and my excitiment level is dampened. I'm not going to talk myself into how things like no sd slot are OK because they aren't. Once all three phones hit the market and are into users hands we will know the true differences of the Prime/Vigor/Razr. Until then there is no clear winner although it's pretty obvious by now none of the three will be a vaunted "game changin" device.
We are being sold incremental updates because the manufacturers are making profits and they don't have to work hard for it. It's the way it is and unfortunately, it's not very exciting. I think we are all silly for paying top dollar for these upgrades. We might as well wait for 3-6 months for the the phones to go on sale because they are already behind the curve when they are released anyway.

Where's the innovation? I just want to feel like someone is pushing the envelope. Maybe that spirit is dead?

A PRIME example is that the iPhone 4S has record sells thus far LMAO. Complacency is running rampant!!! It would be nice if Google could limit one phone per manufacturer, per carrier, per year. Take your best shot cause you only get one! Throw up some BS incremental upgrade and you would lose boatloads.

I'm not really disappointed in this particular phone so don't get me wrong. But just as I was disappointed with the iPhone 4S launch...I'm disappointed again. Where's the excitement? Show me you want my business! It's becoming boring and the most exciting improvements are always rumors that never surface until the tech is too old to matter anymore.
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I haven't even read this article yet, because it's as long as a monkey's poop off a tree, but just wanted to throw it out there in case anyone's interested.
 
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Seriously, SGS2 can do that?! You can hang a USB flash drive off of it?
Yup, pretty slick eh? Sorry, I couldn't post a link in my first post. Here's more info on XDA.
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Hi!

Would anyone be so kind as to give me a summary of what is known so far? There are so many pages!

Also, is the Verizon version going to have TOUCHWIZ on it?
No device, introduced in conjunction with Google, that is titled Nexus will have TouchWiz on it.

Will this ever be put to rest? I simply cannot believe that this question is still being asked.
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VZW's current fastest phone (Droid Bionic) has only been out for five weeks now, and Prime will be a full 50% faster.

Not fast enough?
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UBRocked - Well - no question that the iP4s launch event was the worst ever (despite great sales, we saw that coming).

Just chiming in that until we get Google/Samsung actual launch of ICS and the Nexus, kind of soon to be sure that it's such a letdown.

And, no, I'm not taking bets, not even in quatloos!
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Yeah I have never even been over 1G of data for a WHOLE MONTH, but I do text a ton, but I figure I should be good, and will have no issues with the battery.
I've never exceeded a gig either, but that's only because 3G's so friggin' SLOW that I'm on wifi most of the time. Once I get hold of 4G, I'm gonna be streaming everything everywhere.
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No device, introduced in conjunction with Google, that is titled Nexus will have TouchWiz on it.

Will this ever be put to rest? I simply cannot believe that this question is still being asked.
Steady. Easy does it.

Let's keep our shirts on, plenty of questions are going to get repeated.

It's not the asker's fault, it's just as much as all of ours for being human and having noise in the thread - and people don't know until they see the answer.

All we can do is be welcoming and do our best to help people as join the thread.

PS to Steven - Normally I'd just pitch in and go for it, but I'm swamped - when you get a chance, respectfully request consider adding "no TouchWiz" or the like for now to the OP.
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I've never exceeded a gig either, but that's only because 3G's so friggin' SLOW that I'm on wifi most of the time. Once I get hold of 4G, I'm gonna be streaming everything everywhere.
That's true. Everyone with 4G LTE will be using much more data than they did with 3G before. But I still don't think I will consume anywhere close to 1Gb a day.

BTW, didn't you say you are living in the middle of nowhere when talking about microSD slot? So do you have LTE in your area?
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Thank you Zach. Yes, a widget just sitting there on a screen consumes virtually zero resources of any kind (besides RAM and a little memory space) unless it's actively updating the screen, uploading or downloading something, or performing calculations. A properly written widget or app should only be doing those things when it serves some purpose.
Right, there is no point in having widgets unless there is a place to put the information that is being queried at intervals. Twitter, sports scores, etc. etc. It's not the widget consuming the bulk of CPU cycles. It's the queries. And if you are in a bad signal area, it can add up to alot of CPU cycles if done on a frequent basis.
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That's true. Everyone with 4G LTE will be using much more data than they did with 3G before. But I still don't think I will consume anywhere close to 1Gb a day.

BTW, didn't you say you are living in the middle of nowhere when talking about microSD slot? So do you have LTE in your area?
No, you misunderstood: I live in an LTE area but I have in-laws who live in the middle of nowhere. And when I HAVE to visit them (gotta keep the Darling Bride happy ) I need that SD card because the only cloud is the one hanging over my head the whole time I'm there.
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There will always be a better, faster, crisper device around the corner. As soon as we snatch this up, SGS 3 will be rumored and spec'd.

However, and this is a BIG however, I don't know when I will get another chance for a pure, vanilla, Google-updated phone on Verizon. It may never come again.

I'm snatching this up faster than a I'd grab a baby falling out of a window![/QUOTE]



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UBRocked - Well - no question that the iP4s launch event was the worst ever (despite great sales, we saw that coming).

Just chiming in that until we get Google/Samsung actual launch of ICS and the Nexus, kind of soon to be sure that it's such a letdown.

And, no, I'm not taking bets, not even in quatloos!
Haha! Of course I'll hold final judgement for the actual announcement. I think what has me down is that when the rumor of the 4460 was "cemented" by our source, and micro sd didn't look like a viable option...people started excusing it.

Yes, with the latest rumored specs, it will be a great phone...that will be beaten (marginally) in a couple of months. That's my issue.

I don't blame them. But when was the last time we were "wow'ed"? I wanna be wow'ed! You think of these people that get to work for these companies and decide to skimp instead of innovate...it's disheartening.

But I'm out! Son turned 7 today and I'm going to see my boy...He's an Android nut already so he'll share in my frustrations over some birthday cake!
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Steady. Easy does it.

Let's keep our shirts on, plenty of questions are going to get repeated.

It's not the asker's fault, it's just as much as all of ours for being human and having noise in the thread - and people don't know until they see the answer.

All we can do is be welcoming and do our best to help people as join the thread.

PS to Steven - Normally I'd just pitch in and go for it, but I'm swamped - when you get a chance, respectfully request consider adding "no TouchWiz" or the like for now to the OP.
Sorry, EarlyMon. I realized after the fact that it may have come across as sort of douchey. But, nevertheless, at 7000+ posts, and the fact that the two prior Nexus phones were vanlla android phones, the question should not be asked.

Nexus is to Google as iPhone is to Apple.
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Source: Galaxy Nexus (Nexus Prime) Will Have 1.5GHz Dual-Core TI OMAP 4460

i'm sure that is already posted three pages back even though i just saw it on phandroid's twitter....but i'm posting it anyways. lol

when will the speculation end.....the sooner the better. This is getting old and isn't that much fun anymore....

Really???? COOOL!

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Thank you.....Thank you....Thank you....

I'd just like to thank my work for not interrupting me during a very important moment in my life. Second, I would like to thank my 3gs for sucking enough to prompt me being in this forum waiting desperately for the NP.

....but most importantly, I would like to thank all of those that stumbled on the reply button so that I may snipe the 7000 post honor.
Dang post hore! Jk,... congrats!

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VZW's current fastest phone (Droid Bionic) has only been out for five weeks now, and Prime will be a full 50% faster.

Not fast enough?
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Steady. Easy does it.

Let's keep our shirts on, plenty of questions are going to get repeated.

It's not the asker's fault, it's just as much as all of ours for being human and having noise in the thread - and people don't know until they see the answer.

All we can do is be welcoming and do our best to help people as join the thread.

PS to Steven - Normally I'd just pitch in and go for it, but I'm swamped - when you get a chance, respectfully request consider adding "no TouchWiz" or the like for now to the OP.
Absolutely!

Edit: Done... we aim to please.. Service is our business.
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The reason all of us are so excited for the Nexus Prime is because were on Verizon, and as everyone already knows Verizon always gets the crappy end of the deal. We haven't gotten an actual great phone this year that would make us say "you know what, I actually WANT that phone". Most of us just put up with whatever Verizon gives us. Would we jump ship? Not likely since we are still getting the unlimited data (some of us) and we get amazing 4g. The prime is the first chance well get in a long time where we actually get a competetive, top end phone. Now add that to vanillas pure experience and boom! You have a keeper right there. I'm happy with the specs so far and only hope Samsung doesnt kill it with crappy build quality. The battery life seems really good actually.

For everyone else not on Verizon you may be expecting more, and that's fine. But we Verizon customers will be happy knowing that at least this time we weren't thrown under the bus. Everyone else who gets the better phone selection that Verizon may not get, be happy. And for those of you who this applies to its more than likely you guys will get a better spec'd phone in the future, be it the GsIII or whatever. But for those of us limited to Verizon this is like a dream come true.

Also another device will always be just around the corner, but it just so happens that corner is a LOT longer for Verizon than all the other carriers
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There will always be a better, faster, crisper device around the corner. As soon as we snatch this up, SGS 3 will be rumored and spec'd.

However, and this is a BIG however, I don't know when I will get another chance for a pure, vanilla, Google-updated phone on Verizon. It may never come again.

I'm snatching this up faster than a I'd grab a baby falling out of a window!
yup, and i'm already looking forward to a phone with the ST-Ericsson Nova A9600!! but that's probably closer to 2013
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But for those of us limited to Verizon this is like a dream come true.
You can bet your bottom dollar that I'll be at the Verizon corporate store 20 minutes before they open on Launch Day. I think we just over-hyped it here and anything that they realistically hand us will be a let-down for somebody. But yeah, Namrak, I think we Verizon folks will be VERY happy!
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Sorry, EarlyMon. I realized after the fact that it may have come across as sort of (snip). But, nevertheless, at 7000+ posts, and the fact that the two prior Nexus phones were vanlla android phones, the question should not be asked.

Nexus is to Google as iPhone is to Apple.
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We're all here on the same side, Team Android Happy Kitty Bootie Shakin' Git Mah Phone Muchachas Muchachos, right?
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i'd be totally happy if the NP (GSM-Version) comes with the Omap 4470 and not the exynos 4212, but 4460 is not good enough for what i want...
How could you possibly know this? I am not trying to be contrary, I would just like to know.

Have you used the the 4460 on a phone? Has anyone? Has anyone used ICS with its new hardware acceleration yet? It seems silly to state with confidence anything about the performance of a CPU that no one has used yet. I know the GPU is of particular concern to you, but until you actually USE it, I don't see any point in guessing how good it is or how long it will remain relevant...
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I am curious to see what Paul Johnston has to say when this finally drops with the OMAP. Won't there be some people who will owe BGR some apologies? There has been quite a bit of nasty things said about him and his specs, but they seem to be the closest to coming to fruition....
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Seems like the roller coaster ride is on the upswing again... we were downright despondent this morning and now we're all getting excited again!

I SO prefer positive vibes to the negative
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Right, there is no point in having widgets unless there is a place to put the information that is being queried at intervals. Twitter, sports scores, etc. etc. It's not the widget consuming the bulk of CPU cycles. It's the queries. And if you are in a bad signal area, it can add up to alot of CPU cycles if done on a frequent basis.
Excellent points. I use the NewsRob news reader, which is smart about its queries. You can set the synch time interval, can specify how much data it should fetch for articles (brief text summary, a full web page, images), and it has one clever optimization: If it has trouble reaching a news server, it times out and skips any other articles from that same server until the next synchronization. Naive newsreaders can be huge battery hogs, but NewsRob isn't bad at all on my OG Droid.

*I just wish the author would check back in and release some updates.
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I am curious to see what Paul Johnston has to say when this finally drops with the OMAP. Won't there be some people who will owe BGR some apologies? There has been quite a bit of nasty things said about him and his specs, but they seem to be the closest to coming to fruition....
being partly right once doesn't make up for the other 50 times when they were completely wrong. but that's just me
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. . . .Won't there be some people who will owe BGR some apologies? ...
Not at all. If BGR goes ahead and apologizes for continuing to use extremely dubious sources - cough, Ticonderoga Securities, cough - and apologizes for telling the world that the iPhone 5 was releasing as an exclusive for Sprint, then I'll apologize for not believing a single thing they say until other sites back it up.

Being right 3 out of 10 times might be good enough for weather forecasters, but not for a tech site like BGR, Bad Guess Report.
 
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You can bet your bottom dollar that I'll be at the Verizon corporate store 20 minutes before they open on Launch Day. I think we just over-hyped it here and anything that they realistically hand us will be a let-down for somebody. But yeah, Namrak, I think we Verizon folks will be VERY happy!
I just figured I would pre-order it, save the hassel of going to the store and waiting in line.
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Yes, with the latest rumored specs, it will be a great phone...that will be beaten (marginally) in a couple of months. That's my issue.

I don't blame them. But when was the last time we were "wow'ed"? I wanna be wow'ed! You think of these people that get to work for these companies and decide to skimp instead of innovate...it's disheartening.

But I'm out! Son turned 7 today and I'm going to see my boy...He's an Android nut already so he'll share in my frustrations over some birthday cake!

The only problem with your issue is it will probably always be an issue. Not just for you, but many following this thread. There will ALWAYS be the next best thing a couple months down the road and when you're ready to buy that, the next best thing will be rumored. It never ends and it's the nature of ever evolving technology.

From a pure business perspective, if Samsung wowed you with all the specs your looking for, there would be little motivation for you to buy their next device. Sadly, we are strung along for the ride. As long as enough people keep buying, the strategy will remain the same.

Btw, happy birthday to your little boy!
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I for one will most likely get this phone (currently with the incredible) so pretty much anything is a huge upgrade. There is still plenty that we don't know about this phone............. look and feel, weight, what it's made out of, how the curved glass will look and feel in the pocket, what the hell are those three buttons on the side.......get my point?
Still very much interested in this phone!
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I for one will most likely get this phone (currently with the incredible) so pretty much anything is a huge upgrade. There is still plenty that we don't know about this phone............. look and feel, weight, what it's made out of, how the curved glass will look and feel in the pocket, what the hell are those three buttons on the side.......get my point?
Still very much interested in this phone!
I doubt the three "buttons" on the side will be used for anything more than contact charging. But who knows
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