It will be interesting to see what happens with the tech blogs when it's general consensus that it was all about money...
It is about money no matter what. Whether it is ISIS, a software bug, a hardware bug, network problems, or any other stupid reason... it is all about money. They don't care about you getting a "bugfree" device for altruistic reasons. They care about you keeping your phone, not costing them time with CSR/tech support, not having to replace your phone, and you making lots of calls, texts, data usage, purchases, etc...
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I don't consider that new. new to me would have never have had any person's info on it which in this case you made a call and loaded your accounts into it. I could see a legal s**t storm happening if someone finds out this happened and they are selling an essentially used phone as new.
You should have the phone dusted for fingerprints and test for dna before you buy. Cmon -- it's not "used" if its never been sold.
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I'm gonna grab my little bro's OG Droid tomorrow for temporary use. Any suggestions on the most stable ROM to put on it. Right now, he said it reboots whenever the OS gets loaded.
Then just root it. It's the easiest phone of any to root and you'll get your updates more timely than anyone else. Don't panic, don't worry. Be happy. The Nexus will most likely be here before Christmas...
Though VZ has been irritating with this ridiculous launch attempt, they have put themselves in an interesting position with me. I just received one of those $100 off any 4G phone mailers. Even better, I still have my last NE2. I called them to ask if I can use them in combination and they said yes! Now here is where they are walking a fine line with me. This $100 off campaign I was told is until 12/31. If the Nexus comes out before then they may have just redeemed themselves a little with me. If not, I am going to be PISSED having been teased with a $100 discount! We will see how this one plays out.
I really have doubts about this whole Google Wallet thing. Wouldn't Google and VZW have made a decision about this from the get-go?
Like if VZW did request Google to block Wallet when the phone was being prepped for the network, wouldn't they have had this pissing match from the very start?
Regardless, I don't really care about the internal stuff. I just want the phone. Please. Pretty please? With a gigantic, steroid cherry on top?
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Took the Cell phone carrier out for a bit today.
The cooler weather is good for 20 more HP. Fun.
Up on I-75 I just slowly floated @ 80 mph by one of these rednecks that like to take a brand new truck and install a fake hood scoop, drop 2k worth of SS exhaust on the ground and spend another $500.00 on the painful in-cab resonating flow master mufflers with chrome tips. Topping it all off with heavier power robbing rough riding tires and some K&N air filter stickers and such. Heh!
Next thing I know here he is beside me picking on me, leaning over his steering wheel gawking at me like, Cmon! I Dare Ya!
Who knows, maybe he seen the Joe Gibbs rear spoiler or the Vortec HighOutput badge and figured it was as fake as his stuff.
I did a little goose and he bit so I just stayed with him until his 100 mph speed limiter stunted him and then I cleaned out my pipes up to 125 mph and let off waiting. Heh! He opted out.
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TIA
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Project Elite v 4.2....Froyo, but it's stable as hell and fast...Great options like CM.
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That's the thing. If this gets enough media attention, Verizon will be forced to act. I would encourage anyone with a twitter campaign to start including the GWallet topic.
I know we are focused on verizon here, because they have control of release, but google might be getting a little greedy with their request. They could claim to verizon IS blocking Wallet and put them in deep doodoo. And be requesting a large cut of Isis in return for keeping their mouth shut. Or like I said withholding the ability of verizon to use Isis at all.
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If you see someone in a grey Ford Focus SES along 75/575, riding people's ass in the left lane because every one down here somehow thinks it is OK to drive 60 in the left lane, while going absolutely bonkers because he is from NJ and is used to driving quickly and efficiently on the highways up there....it's me.
You must be from the North! All the NJ drivers that I had experiences with were mostly negative.
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You should have the phone dusted for fingerprints and test for dna before you buy. Cmon -- it's not "used" if its never been sold.
Ok if you think it isn't used just because it hasn't been sold than that is you. What about the guy who had a pic of a bb employee flipping the bird on his supposed brand new phone? Got a lot of press for something that was not "used" according to you.
True enough, but I really do believe we'll all be playing with it in our homes next to the fire on Christmas morning. At this point, that's my only wish.
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I know we are focused on verizon here, because they have control of release, but google might be getting a little greedy with their request. They could claim to verizon IS blocking Wallet and put them in deep doodoo. And be requesting a large cut of Isis in return for keeping their mouth shut. Or like I said withholding the ability of verizon to use Isis at all.
I know we are focused on verizon here, because they have control of release, but google might be getting a little greedy with their request. They could claim to verizon IS blocking Wallet and put them in deep doodoo. And be requesting a large cut of Isis in return for keeping their mouth shut. Or like I said withholding the ability of verizon to use Isis at all.
But this should have all been on the table when negotiations about verizon carrying it and "exclusivity" not 4 months later. I cannot see them not talking about this and including/excluding it from the start and both parties agreeing.
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I'm wondering if it's even the same store? I got a voicemail back from the guy and he said that he didn't know when he told me, but some guy already has his name for first dibs on it when it's able to be sold.
I asked him who it was, but of course he couldn't tell me, although he said it was a "regular".
I was actually going to order a Galaxy Note to use with AT&T and just forget about any other phones, but you guys have me so excited for the Galaxy Nexus....I can't take it anymore, I'm going nuts
The Note is pretty decent and the 1280x720 screen is dazzling. Got the GNex a week later. Now waiting for the VZW GNex so I can be on a network that's usable in midtown Manhattan at 1pm in the afternoon. No AT&T phone is usable on data during those hours.
OK, now here's a problem from my adventures in Best Buy MobileLand. I just logged into My Verizon and clicked "upgrade my phone". When I was taken to the phones page, my discounted pricing is gone.
I called *611 and explained what happened today. She was very rude and said "hold on". The line was silent for almost 5 minutes. Then she hung up on me. I called at 10:55. I know they close at 11 p.m. but really? Hung up on me? I clicked on the "chat now" button and explained this to the CSR there and she said I'd have to call *611. I said they are closed and the CSR hung up on me. She apolozied and said, nothing she can do.
Seems that's VZW's MO these days. They can do NOTHING.
But this should have all been on the table when negotiations about verizon carrying it and "exclusivity" not 4 months later. I cannot see them not talking about this and including/excluding it from the start and both parties agreeing.
Verizon probably thought nothing of it, they told Google it couldn't have Google Wallet, Google complied, a leak got out that Verizon forced Google not to put it on there, people got mad, lawyers got involved, Verizon freaked, Nexus delayed indefinitely..
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I was actually expelled from my first Catholic school in 3rd grade. All that really meant was that the nuns gave up and handed me off to the Jesuits, who had corporal punishment down to a fine art. Word got around in the new school and I had it easy
The nuns never struck anybody, they legally weren't able to at this point. Though, I'm sure if they could, my ass would STILL be raw.
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You know, I totally forgot that was coming to Joliet. We may just have to make this happen.
OK, now here's a problem from my adventures in Best Buy MobileLand. I just logged into My Verizon and clicked "upgrade my phone". When I was taken to the phones page, my discounted pricing is gone.
I called *611 and explained what happened today. She was very rude and said "hold on". The line was silent for almost 5 minutes. Then she hung up on me. I called at 10:55. I know they close at 11 p.m. but really? Hung up on me? I clicked on the "chat now" button and explained this to the CSR there and she said I'd have to call *611. I said they are closed and the CSR hung up on me. She apolozied and said, nothing she can do.
Seems that's VZW's MO these days. They can do NOTHING.
I know usually it takes a day or so for your upgrade to be restored and since you were in store today trying to buy and almost did it may take some time to show it again for you.
I was thinking about the monumental task of actually launching the phone. All of the division and people that have to coordinate everything (communications, marketing, CSR, shipping, telesales, tech support, retail, resellers, Google, Samsung, etc...). It would be like the huge amount of effort/energy to get a locomotive rolling. And then they stopped it once it was rolling. And the huge amount of energy/effort that it took to stop the release. Whatever their reason for starting the release or stopping it... it cost them a ton in money, resources, and PR. It had to be a really important reason or it would not have been worth the effort.
I was thinking about the monumental task of actually launching the phone. All of the division and people that have to coordinate everything (communications, marketing, CSR, shipping, telesales, tech support, retail, resellers, Google, Samsung, etc...). It would be like the huge amount of effort/energy to get a locomotive rolling. And then they stopped it once it was rolling. And the huge amount of energy/effort that it took to stop the release. Whatever their reason for starting the release or stopping it... it cost them a ton in money, resources, and PR. It had to be a really important reason or it would not have been worth the effort.
It is verizon that we are talking about here though lol
If this ISIS google wallet thing is true then verizon is turning into apple. Telling us what we Can and CANNOT do with our device. It should be OUR choice what services we want to use not the carriers.
It seems like it's cool to hate on Apple, but in reality they were the first cellphone manufacturer that told the carriers to keep their hands off of their device, and to just handle the network. If the rumors about Wallet being removed at the request of Verizon are true, then Google seems to be the carriers bitch, just like HTC, Motorola, Samsung, LG, etc. all cave in and put metric tons of bloat on their phone to be sold by the carrier.
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A couple of reasons I have no problem with it. Early phone purchases happen all the time. ReZound and Incredible to name a couple I know of. If it was so SUPER important that these phones aren't given to the public, they never should've been shipped yet. It's Verizon's corporate mismanagement that brought this on.
If I got a GNex, would I shout from the mountaintops that Joe from Store 53 sold it to me? No. But I have no problem with people asking if they can purchase this phone.
On top of that I find it deplorable that VZW would put their employee's and third party retailers in a position to fire peeps over sales of this phone. It's just ludicrous. If you don't want it sold, don't ship it to retailers. If you decide you don't want it sold AFTER it has shipped suck it up and deal with sales starting. It's like there's a bunch of Mayberry Barnie Fife's who aren't even good natured like him running VZW or something.
Here are some of my theories explaining the rumored delay of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus from the 12/9 date we previously believed.
Google Wallet - With all the hoopla yesterday about google wallet not being on the G'Nex, it's possible that this was the first time the Verizon legal team took notice of this issue. Obviously, doing something as antitrusty as blocking google wallet, and then putting ISIS on the phone even though it uses the same "security risk" would draw some heat, and maybe the legal team has advised them to allow Google Wallet to avoid an antitrust suit, and they're cooking up a last minute fix to allow it.
The 4G LTE Outage - Bad PR to launch a phone on a network that's down. Terrible first impression for new users. Maybe they need time to get everything back up and running.
Bug Fix - Maybe they found a last minute bug that needs patching.
Stock Price - With Black Friday over, maybe Verizon is content with it's Q4 2011 numbers and would rather push the G'Nex into Q1 2012 to boost those figures instead.
RAZR - It's not secret that the Droid RAZR is Verizon's favorite phone right now. We don't know how well it's selling, but presumably it will sell more units if it has a few more days without the Nexus competition. I mean, it comes in white now!
Curse - scottg96 made a post about the 12/9 release date and jinxed it for us all.
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Went to the local corporate store to see if I could play with a demo unit. The guy at the front that meets you and signs you up for what you need told me they are no longer allowed to let people play with it. He also stated they hope to be selling them next Friday.
Just pissed me off as I really wanted to play with it to see if its the phone I really wanted. Grr...
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A little birdy just told me that Google employees are getting their phones next week. "Handing them out like candy" was part of the phrase used.
FWIW, others are saying the Google Wallet is not the cause for the delay.
No reason why they can't, right? Verizon can't block them per the C-block rules, right? Before this GW/ISIS mess, I would have thought "sweet, next week is it!" but now I'm just not sure. Just because google hands them out doesn't mean we will see it anytime soon, I'm afraid.
I don't believe the rumors of the device being delayed because of Google Wallet. Apparently, not all stores have GN's in stock. It doesn't make sense to launch a device when not every store has them in stock. Plus, Verizon is known to launch devices on Thursday's, so a release for today didn't seem to make sense.
I think this "launch delay" had more to do with logistics than with GW. At least that's my viewpoint.
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