I was helping one of my friends who is a TA for a freshman programming class. A student had contacted him for extra help, and he "said sure you just have to come to me as I am busy". Since he was busy working with me, the student came and we both helped him as I have better-than-average programming knowledge for your random non-CS major. The student had his whole program written badly, with one of the weirdest idiosyncracies being he refused to use ceil(). It was java, and if he wanted ceil(varOne), he would write floor(varOne+1). He also did other things like to concatenate strings he would do something like:
Code:
declare array
for i from i=0 to i=(stringOne.length+stringTwo.length)
{
if i>stringOne
{
j= i-stringOne.length
array[j] = stringTwo.charAt(j)
}
else
{
array[i] = stringOne.charAt(i)
}
}
then convert the array into one string
Obviosly his was in real code and not psuedocode.
Now, he was technically correct, but an idiot considering string.concat() had been introduced about a week ago.
The worst part was that he refused to understand ceil, and the final assignment he handed in still had the floor(varOne+1) instead of ceil(varOne). My friend spent at least 45 min explaining it, and it apparently was for naught.
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Ok, so while we've all been focused on the delay being a Google Wallet/ISIS battle...it IS very possible that Verizon realized the battery life was soooo horrific that they were prepping a patch that will be released in conjunction with the phone (to avoid returns on the phone). Just saying...it's a VERY REAL possibility as many people on this thread have said their sources have confirmed it was a bug that caused the delay. (I know, there were equally a number of people who had sources that confirmed it was a Wallet/ISIS battle). We may never know...but this battery WOULD be a big issue.
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I'm not being argumentative, but there is a huge difference between the word 'leak' and the word 'rumor'. The former can be much more associated with accurate info whereas the latter can be anything from urban myth to fact.
I sincerely appreciate Steven changing that word. IMO it dramatically changes peopel's expectations when just scanning the thread title to see a capsule version of he 'latest & greatest'.
I understand, and I agree that leak and rumor mean two different things, usually.
But the reason I'm fine with the interchangeable use of the two in this case is because I truly believe the leaks are credible. But, VZW has the final say, and as we saw with the 9th, they can and will delay it (for whatever reason).
I absolutely believe it is in fact a credible leak. I also firmly believe the upper management at VZW doesn't even know if they are going to release this phone on the 15th.
Battery life on 4G devices is typically horrendous. If you switch over to 3G only or use Wifi when available it will extend battery life by a great deal. When I had the Rezound it was getting only 3 or 4 hours in 4G all the time. When I started forcing it to 3G when in a bad 4G area or staying on Wifi at home then the battery would last me almost 14 or 15 hours with moderate to high use.
Wow, I was getting about 8-10 hours of 4G on my Rezound with moderate use. But I'm wondering if there's a better extended battery for the GNex than the one that only gives about 20% more capacity?
See the thing is if I buy a 4g phone I want to use 4g though. If I turn off 4g all the time what's the point?
I totally agree, but you'll realize that in technology there will always be major tradeoffs. For example higher clocked processor speeds = more heat=more power consumption. Reducing clock speeds can also result in better battery performance if you don't need to work horse your processor.
Edit: This is also why gaining access to root is sometimes really important.
Hello all,
I just tried my luck at the $100 Promo flyer too, but didn't get it. I know everybody is getting tired of all of the I got it or I didnt get it($100 Promo) posts, but I just wanted to share what I did get. As I stated I had no luck with getting the promo honored, but I did get my early upgrade fee waived, a $30 discount off any 4g phone and $10 off my monthly bill for a year!
Also the CRS I talked to also said the Gnex is supposedly dropping Thrusday! I also asked a store manager/friend and she says she is hearing the 15th is a go as well!
I don't have much to contribute but there's my little happy story
Ok, so while we've all been focused on the delay being a Google Wallet/ISIS battle...it IS very possible that Verizon realized the battery life was soooo horrific that they were prepping a patch that will be released in conjunction with the phone (to avoid returns on the phone). Just saying...it's a VERY REAL possibility as many people on this thread have said their sources have confirmed it was a bug that caused the delay. (I know, there were equally a number of people who had sources that confirmed it was a Wallet/ISIS battle). We may never know...but this battery WOULD be a big issue.
Doesn't seem to me battery life is any worse than other high end 4G phones. Doubt that's the reason. Plus with this one, the extended battery barely changes the overall appearance.
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Wow, I was getting about 8-10 hours of 4G on my Rezound with moderate use. But I'm wondering if there's a better extended battery for the GNex than the one that only gives about 20% more capacity?
I'm sure Seidio et al will release one. But beware, I saw an excellent write up comparing various "extended" batteries, and many were WAY off on their reported mAh. In one case there was a Seidio battery that was reported at 3500 mAh or something and was measured to be more like 2100. I'll dig up the link.
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Ok, so while we've all been focused on the delay being a Google Wallet/ISIS battle...it IS very possible that Verizon realized the battery life was soooo horrific that they were prepping a patch that will be released in conjunction with the phone (to avoid returns on the phone). Just saying...it's a VERY REAL possibility as many people on this thread have said their sources have confirmed it was a bug that caused the delay. (I know, there were equally a number of people who had sources that confirmed it was a Wallet/ISIS battle). We may never know...but this battery WOULD be a big issue.
If Verizon was at all concerned about battery life, they wouldn't have released the Thunderbolt.
Anyway, I don't understand why people are saying battery life is horrific?? Almost 4 hours of straight usage is pretty darn good for a 4G phone. Are you guys confusing this with standby time?
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Ok, so while we've all been focused on the delay being a Google Wallet/ISIS battle...it IS very possible that Verizon realized the battery life was soooo horrific that they were prepping a patch that will be released in conjunction with the phone (to avoid returns on the phone). Just saying...it's a VERY REAL possibility as many people on this thread have said their sources have confirmed it was a bug that caused the delay. (I know, there were equally a number of people who had sources that confirmed it was a Wallet/ISIS battle). We may never know...but this battery WOULD be a big issue.
None of us really know the reason/s behind the delay but battery life isn't a realistic reason to delay a phone. Historically VZ has released several phones (Incredible, Thunderbolt, first two that came to mind - both I purchased) and battery life on those were pretty terrible. I don't see it being the battery life as a reason for delay.
I understand, and I agree that leak and rumor mean two different things, usually.
But the reason I'm fine with the interchangeable use of the two in this case is because I truly believe the leaks are credible. But, VZW has the final say, and as we saw with the 9th, they can and will delay it (for whatever reason).
I absolutely believe it is in fact a credible leak. I also firmly believe the upper management at VZW doesn't even know if they are going to release this phone on the 15th.
We don't need them to know it!
We just need the store managers to know it.
More to throw on the fire...really no need to preface it anymore after this. Everything in this thread is pretty much "FWIW".
This tweet is from JFMFT, user from the Android Central forums whose partner is a Verizon corporate store employee. He was responding to some Android developers (Kejar, bigxie, etc). JFMFT was the one who leaked the full e-mail for one of the leaked targeted dates a few weeks ago. Obviously, things changed... https://twitter.com/#!/JFMFT
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@kejar31 it's coming on Thursday. Corp sent another marketing email about it to employees today. Infomanager shows 12/15 again, too.
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@bigxie Verizon sent out an email to marketing employees - 15th is the launch date. It's in infomanager, too, just added a few hours ago.
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@bigxie My boyfriend is a VZW corporate employee signed up for the marketing emails (OMM). I has good infos.
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@PydePypper Only select employees have access to OMM and thus are signed up for the marketing emails. Sounds like you got a "regular" rep
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@PydePypper sometimes even managers are clueless, but the OMM/Marketing designated rep for the store has better information.
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@PydePypper I get that. I've never been misinformed by my partner who is my source. But you wouldn't expect your significant other to lie.
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@PydePypper I got a text at 4pm from him saying the 15th is showing in infomanager and that he had received an email from OMM on it too.
Personally, I'd like to see these shots of this e-mail and infomanager. Oh well, we shall see!
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just txted my rep at a corporate vzw store, and he said he doesn't know when their going on sale or how many they've got in stock but he will set one aside for me! that's great because i have a final thursday morning and won't be able to hit up the store till 1 pm or so.
Where the hell were you guys when I needed someone for my Algorithms and data structures analysis class
I am not that good. :P Also, my language knowledge is limited to Java, python, Matlab and very basic VBA. I am working to make it better (the number of engineers that cannot program is astounding...you would think that it would be a semi-necessary skill) to beef up my resume.
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like others have undoubedly mentioned ( I am unable to read all of these messages) I wouldn't even believe verizon if they anounced thursday was the day!... at this point I will get it when it comes out .... well actually I am getting one on thursday regardless.. it may be on tmobile or verizon but either way I will have one in my hands on thursday.
I would like to have my verizon (main line) on it first . but either way thats cool.
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What's the brightness setting on those battery stats?
"Auto" under typical office lighting. (T8 twin bulb fixtures with white reflectors and diffuser lenses; around 10-15 umol/s/s or 300 lux, if I remember my last measurement correctly.
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Wow, I was getting about 8-10 hours of 4G on my Rezound with moderate use. But I'm wondering if there's a better extended battery for the GNex than the one that only gives about 20% more capacity?
If Verizon was at all concerned about battery life, they wouldn't have released the Thunderbolt.
Anyway, I don't understand why people are saying battery life is horrific?? Almost 4 hours of straight usage is pretty darn good for a 4G phone. Are you guys confusing this with standby time?
True...or at least they would have waited until the patch they released...maybe they determined they wouldn't wait with that device for whatever reason. However, my wife has a Thunderbolt and after the most recent update (a couple months ago) her battery life is actually quite good. So I still think it's not out of the question that VZW would hold the release of the Nexus for battery issues (especially since they got flamed for the Thunderbolt).
I still prefer plasma to LCD, but this past weekend I was at BJs. I was checking out the 60 and 70 inch Sharp Quartro series LCDs. Their viewing angle rivaled that of the Plasmas I've seen.
The regular Sharps don't hold a candle to the Elites, but they're a fraction of the Elite's cost.
I always preferred plasma, but the Elite made me do a 180. You should read the pro reviews on this display. You'll be shocked and they're accurate!
Please note: OP title changed to say "rumor" in order to calm down any misunderstandings. It replaces the word, "leak". I hope that makes for more peace. I sincerely apologize for any hardships I may have caused anyone by the words I chose to use.
I want to thank you sooooooo much for the change!!!!!!! It was keeping me up nights!!!!!!! (sarcasm)
So now that the title says rumor, I guess I'll call my corp store rep and cancel my appointment for Thursday morning. I didn't want the dang thing anyway!!!!!
PS - elect Steven58 for 2012!!!!!
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Weird... I don't seem to have a $50 credit, yet some phones like the RAZR are priced at $249 rather than $299. iPhones don't seem to have this pricing though. Does anyone understand how this pricing works? I really don't understand the NE2 or any other discounts or how to know when I have them. As far as I know, I just have an upgrade available on the primary line of my account.
If you have the discount button and select it you go to a shopping page where they list all the phones with prices according to your discount.
I have seen some good looking LED/LCD tv's but I've been totally bugged by the higher refresh rates. Good for sports but lousy for movies or tv shows that aren't soaps.
I don't think I've seen one owner upset with how it displays movies. It's got tons of options for refresh rates. It looks utterly superb for both movies and sports.
But I know what you mean with some of them. It's called the SOE (soap opera effectz) where a movie looks like video. Really weird. No such issue on the Elite.
Wow, I was getting about 8-10 hours of 4G on my Rezound with moderate use. But I'm wondering if there's a better extended battery for the GNex than the one that only gives about 20% more capacity?
Really? Maybe mine was bad or I just used it way to much.
So if I am able to order the nexus online at Verizon.com or go to a Verizon corporate retail store and buy the phone but there is no official Verizon announment of an official release date then how does that equate into your theory that nothing is official until Verizon announces the phone directly?
I put this idea at a 50% chance of how this is going to play out on Thursday.
I think that if Verizon execs say the Gnex is coming out on Day X, and the sources we have communicate that to us, and then Verizon changes its mind, it's not the sources' fault.
If all we want is definite, 100% confirmed proof, then we have absolutely no alternative other than to await the official announcement from Verizon.
If that's the case, there is no need for this thread whatsoever.
But most of us enjoy the speculation (to a point) and appreciate the efforts that our sources give to get us info.
lawyer'ed you are right though there is little info we have that is 100% While the speculation is fun the cycle of ups and downs does get frustrating to many since we really want this thing and we are in such a powerless position. here's hoping to Thursday
sorry but, has there been any new finds/news? i tried searching back and had no luck. please do tell! any new news or is it just the hopeful date inching closer?
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I don't think I've seen one owner upset with how it displays movies. It's got tons of options for refresh rates. It looks utterly superb for both movies and sports.
But I know what you mean with some of them. It's called the SOE (soap opera effectz) where a movie looks like video. Really weird. No such issue on the Elite.
Hmm very interesting - thanks for the info. I may mosey to a shop to check it out should the nexus fail to launch on Thursday since I have the day off. Not that I would seriously shop for it, since my wife would kill me!
With all due respect, it is sort of a circular argument to say that Verizon doesn't care about marketing the Nexus because most people don't know about the phone, when it is also true that the reason most people don't know about the phone is the lack of marketing from Verizon.
I agree with you that most people never heard about the Nexus. Then again, I'd bet a good chunk of people don't know the difference between 3G and 4G, or what a 720p display is, but that doesn't stop Verizon from advertising these things because they are selling points. The responsibility of a marketing department is to convince customers they want a particular product by setting out its selling points. The Nexus would be an easy product to promote even to the lay-person (how about largest screen, 4G, revolutionary operating system for starters?) and the fact that Verizon hasn't promoted it at all is really shocking to me.
EDIT: I am aware that Verizon could still advertise this phone after release, but I think it is crazy to not hype a phone that is coming out so close to Christmas, only to turn around and hype it after people have already done their Christmas shopping. Also, I don't know why Google or Samsung haven't stepped up with advertising dollars either.
I honestly think that some of us have lost a bit of perspective. The vast majority of people could care less about the Galaxy Nexus. Indeed, the vast majority of people would have no idea what it is. Most of us are techies who read and participate on the IT and computer publications, blogs and sites. We aren't even the close to the average Verizon customer.
Verizon has a vested interest in selling as many Razrs as possible this holiday season. It's likely an easier sell to most folks than a Google phone. I would imagine that some would be put off by a Google phone (they don't know Android, Google, etc.). Most just want a phone that's cool looking, has the features they want and is easy to use.
Verizon has a limited marketing budget. Even co-op dollars from the manufacturers only go so far. I wouldn't be surprised if the phone comes out Thursday to limited fanfare. The hope may be that word of mouth may quickly build, in addition to an increased ad push in January. Maybe they hope to get expiring new year contracts and the money kids received as gifts over the holidays...
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