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Old November 9th, 2011, 09:30 AM   #24451 (permalink)
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Good morning, everyone! After reading Phandroid's article on the new Asus Prime tablet coming out, I've gotta say I'm very tempted to spend my SGN money on that, instead. That is one sweet looking tablet, and it will have ICS in early December!
Gotta get a new phone either way. You're in the same boat I am: "Dying OG Droid".

Agreed though, the Asus Prime looks oh so nice.

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What I don't understand is how they can be so absolutely certain of this. If the source code hasn't been released yet, and the phone that is the first to have ICS isn't out yet doesn't that mean that they are possibly setting themselves up to look quite silly?
I think it's a guesstimate. The latest that SGN will come out is probably early December, so they'd expect it to be available almost immediately thereafter. It's probably 3.2 Honeycomb unskinned. Given that ICS is sitting and ready to be shipped, I'm sure it'd be a very easy OTA update.

Seriously, that is one sick device. 12 hours of HD playback? Quad core with a hidden 5th core for lower power consumption? Ports up the wazoo, with a keyboard dock being only $150? Compatibility with the most popular video game controllers? ICS confirmed for this year?

I'm actually serious when I say I'm considering going with this and living with my OG Droid a little longer. The thing that draws me the most to the SGN is the fact that it's got ICS, and an HD screen. This will be the same, only bigger. And when I get around to finally getting the SGN, it will be on sale! Or I can just wait til the Tegra 3 makes its way to phones next year, bringing its better battery life to the phone arena.

Hmmm. . .interesting. . . .
 
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Gotta get a new phone either way. You're in the same boat I am: "Dying OG Droid".

Agreed though, the Asus Prime looks oh so nice.
True, although mine is dying more in the sense that it's been sentenced to death. It's frozen up a couple of times, but nothing major. Still running good.

It may just get a reprieve. . .
 
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I was waiting for the Xoom 2 but the Asus looks pretty nice. Xoom 2 is going to get ICS fairly quick too, right?
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@Han...you need to go crash the party and do some recon for Android Forums!

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My Verizon account manager stopped in for a visit yesterday to discuss our new contract and phone purchases.

On Thursday and Friday he will be at an internal Verizon event in Chicago where the employees are being shown the new holiday phones. He is going to fill me in next week because he knows we are waiting on the nexus but I imagine all the news should be on the web Thursday or Friday night.

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If I decide to stay with Verizon I've decide the wife is getting a Nexus too whether she likes it or not and I'm setting up that phone usage feature on both so we can monitor data and such. It's ridiculous how close we both stay to the limits of some of the lower plans on data and messaging. Wife has stayed under 200MB of data for several months but one month she went above it by 50MB. Texting is the same way, we both stay around 250-300.
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Since you asked nicely at called me Han, I just might! I wonder if you'd need official credentials of some kind?
 
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If I decide to stay with Verizon I've decide the wife is getting a Nexus too whether she likes it or not and I'm setting up that phone usage feature on both so we can monitor data and such. It's ridiculous how close we both stay to the limits of some of the lower plans on data and messaging. Wife has stayed under 200MB of data for several months but one month she went above it by 50MB. Texting is the same way, we both stay around 250-300.
Let us know how uncomfortable you are sleeping in the dog house when you make this announcement.
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Since you asked nicely at called me Han, I just might! I wonder if you'd need official credentials of some kind?
Most likely.

Maybe we should try to get Gapi to go out and rig up some surveillance.
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Good morning, everyone! After reading Phandroid's article on the new Asus Prime tablet coming out, I've gotta say I'm very tempted to spend my SGN money on that, instead. That is one sweet looking tablet, and it will have ICS in early December!
Now I know what I want for Xmas!
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I think it's a guesstimate. The latest that SGN will come out is probably early December, so they'd expect it to be available almost immediately thereafter. It's probably 3.2 Honeycomb unskinned. Given that ICS is sitting and ready to be shipped, I'm sure it'd be a very easy OTA update.

Seriously, that is one sick device. 12 hours of HD playback? Quad core with a hidden 5th core for lower power consumption? Ports up the wazoo, with a keyboard dock being only $150? Compatibility with the most popular video game controllers? ICS confirmed for this year?

I'm actually serious when I say I'm considering going with this and living with my OG Droid a little longer. The thing that draws me the most to the SGN is the fact that it's got ICS, and an HD screen. This will be the same, only bigger. And when I get around to finally getting the SGN, it will be on sale! Or I can just wait til the Tegra 3 makes its way to phones next year, bringing its better battery life to the phone arena.

Hmmm. . .interesting. . . .
The Transformer is extremely cool, but for me, I use my phone probably 4-5 hours per day, I use my tablet maybe 1 hour per week. I just have no use for a tablet when we have 2 laptops sitting around. I know people are different and you may be one of the ones that would use a tablet as a primary. I've tried to reason out a way to justify getting a tablet and even thought at one point I would go back to a "dumb phone" and get a tablet with a data plan...just couldn't justify it. Would you use the phone or a tablet more?
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Good morning, everyone! After reading Phandroid's article on the new Asus Prime tablet coming out, I've gotta say I'm very tempted to spend my SGN money on that, instead. That is one sweet looking tablet, and it will have ICS in early December!
AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...I'm gonna sell my Ipad, and get one also. Heck I'm on Tmo anyway...so I'm assuming I'll be waiting until Q1 2012 for whatever phone I get, hopefully Gnex, but who knows.
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AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...I'm gonna sell my Ipad, and get one also. Heck I'm on Tmo anyway...so I'm assuming I'll be waiting until Q1 2012 for whatever phone I get, hopefully Gnex, but who knows.
Biggest mistake I made was having my Ipad engraved. Kinda hard to sell it.

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The Transformer is extremely cool, but for me, I use my phone probably 4-5 hours per day, I use my tablet maybe 1 hour per week. I just have no use for a tablet when we have 2 laptops sitting around. I know people are different and you may be one of the ones that would use a tablet as a primary. I've tried to reason out a way to justify getting a tablet and even thought at one point I would go back to a "dumb phone" and get a tablet with a data plan...just couldn't justify it. Would you use the phone or a tablet more?
I justify all my electronics with 'it could be worse, I could have a drug or alcohol problem'
(and I mean no disrespect to anyone who has either dealt with or has family with either of these problems)
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Biggest mistake I made was having my Ipad engraved. Kinda hard to sell it.



I justify all my electronics with 'it could be worse, I could have a drug or alcohol problem'
(and I mean no disrespect to anyone who has either dealt with or has family with either of these problems)
Definitely is an addiction/habbit, whatever you want to call it, but I'm finding ways to break it recently. I'm finding it harder to justify paying for two devices that are basically the same thing, just different sizes. I'm good with my phone for 99% of activities...the other 1% I'm completely ok with having to get a laptop out for it.
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What I don't understand is how they can be so absolutely certain of this. If the source code hasn't been released yet, and the phone that is the first to have ICS isn't out yet doesn't that mean that they are possibly setting themselves up to look quite silly?
They evidently worked with Google and came to a strategic agreement, according to this article. Make of it what you will, this source isn't always reliable, but isn't always a troll site either. Similar stories on the web trace back to this as the initial source.

Asustek delays Transformer Prime to December

Hope this helps - would be very cool if accurate.

Gooooooood morning, Galactic Nexoids!

PS - this will help speed up those new to the Tegra 3 -

http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/nvidia-tegra-3-what-you-need-to-know-1039584
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All of those ADAs on Law & Order can just flash their credentials and get in anywhere. Unless the TV is lying to me again, you should be good to go!
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[QUOTE=BabyBlues;3437589]Biggest mistake I made was having my Ipad engraved. Kinda hard to sell it.

I'm just hoping I can get 250 to 300 it is a Ipad1, wifi, 16GB, plus I've never sold anything in my life...but this thing has got me considering it. Hoping I can figure out ebay, but I imagine it's not too bad.
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Coach, sent you a PM.

The Asus is going on my xmas list...not sure if i'll actually get it!

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I'm just hoping I can get 250 to 300 it is a Ipad1, wifi, 16GB, plus I've never sold anything in my life...but this thing has got me considering it. Hoping I can figure out ebay, but I imagine it's not too bad.
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The Transformer is extremely cool, but for me, I use my phone probably 4-5 hours per day, I use my tablet maybe 1 hour per week. I just have no use for a tablet when we have 2 laptops sitting around. I know people are different and you may be one of the ones that would use a tablet as a primary. I've tried to reason out a way to justify getting a tablet and even thought at one point I would go back to a "dumb phone" and get a tablet with a data plan...just couldn't justify it. Would you use the phone or a tablet more?

Good point. It will be different for different people. For me, it's kind of a toss up. I would enjoy watching HD movies on a tablet more, but for ebook reading, I'd go with my phone. I do have to admit, though, that I don't use my phone a lot during the day. Mainly just texting and an occasional call. Web surfing and movie watching, at this point, has been mostly on my laptop and TV. I probably use my phone, all combined, a total of 45 minutes a day. (Once I get the SGN, it will be considerably more for a while, but I suspect it will drop back down to normal after a couple of weeks.)

If Verizon decides to release the SGN in December, I think I'll go with the tablet and wait on the SGN until it gets a price drop.
 
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[QUOTE=RadYOacTiVe;3437646]Coach, sent you a PM.

The Asus is going on my xmas list...not sure if i'll actually get it!

sent you one back...let me know if you don't get it.
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Dood, TV NEVER lies, if it's on the screen, it has to be true, right?
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Browns being good/winning = Getting a confirmed Nexus Release date

His final comment reminds me of us after we gripe, grouch, complain to the nth degree about VZW, but we are still gonna buy the Nexus from them when it releases..................

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Biggest mistake I made was having my Ipad engraved. Kinda hard to sell it.

I'm just hoping I can get 250 to 300 it is a Ipad1, wifi, 16GB, plus I've never sold anything in my life...but this thing has got me considering it. Hoping I can figure out ebay, but I imagine it's not too bad.
I would try to sell it on Creigslist first, Ebay and Paypal will ding you for a percentage of the sell price. I prefer cash transfers myself
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I'm thinking of keeping my spray charts on a tablet this year if I can get an app that could make me able to use as styus with a 15 page pdf. If I can get something that will work, I may be able to get baseball to flip at least half the bill on a new transformer. HEHE..:-)...Does anyone have any ideas???
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See, that's where you're thinking wrong. You're BabyBlues! People should want to pay more for it. Charge extra.


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Is anyone else gonna be like this when your new phone (or tablet for the Asus defectors)

Sort of why I prefer ordering online and activating myself. Don't like the rep's greasy hands all over it.
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P3 talked more about battery life:

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Good morning again..so more normal usage .seems that I burn through 10% battery per hour. Same as my bionic. I'm not expecting magic with battery life so I have an extra battery with me just in case. Anywhos I guess I will peg this at approx 6 - 7 hrs
His math is wrong, 10% per hour would last for 10 hours
In all seriousness though, 6-7 hours of usage is pretty good. That's translates into a lot of standby time for me.
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As of yesterday, the low level Samsung grunts were being told that Verizon is still releasing the phone on Nov 17th.
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Yeah, if I win the lotto (reminds me I gotta play to win!) I'll get the prime, but especially with phones getting larger, I think the GN will do 95% of what I'd use a tablet for anyway.

I've read books on my Dinc, and I actually didn't mind it at all. Web surfing and navigation is awkward put I'm thinking the GN is big enough to perform that reasonably well...
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As of yesterday, the low level Samsung grunts were being told that Verizon is still releasing the phone on Nov 17th.
If I may be so bold, can you substantiate this statement? That would be a pretty big deal if you can, I would think.
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This looks pretty sweet.

HTC Ville detailed: HTC Sense 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, thinner than iPhone

Still wish Sense - in varying degrees - was optional on HTC phones.
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One of the girls here has a tv in her office and watches Kathy Lee and Hoda in the morning. She waved a bunch of us over to see Hoda show off her new iPhone with Siri. (The girl at work just got hers and is raving about it.)

Hoda gave it like 5 commands, and I'm not making this up, it didn't work once. Kept saying "I don't understand..."

I don't know, maybe it works in a vacuum with complete silence, but it appears to be gimmicky in real world situations.

And yes, we all laughed at her and at our coworker. She shooed us out of her office with a frown.
 
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If I may be so bold, can you substantiate this statement? That would be a pretty big deal if you can, I would think.
Obtained from a representative of the Samsung Road Show in a local mall.
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The best tablet / stylus combo in Android I know of is the HTC Flyer. Don't know if it will do what you want, but you can use it to mark up content, then save results as a PDF.
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This looks pretty sweet.

HTC Ville detailed: HTC Sense 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, thinner than iPhone

Still wish Sense - in varying degrees - was optional on HTC phones.
That thing is specced equal to(processor) or worse(qHD screen) than the Rezound. The only thing it has going for it is ICS. Considering that it isn't supposed to come out until April, I'd be willing to bet that there will be an ICS AOSP ROM for the Rezound by then.

And wow, the battery has 30 more mAh than the Rezound. I'm sure that'll add five minutes to an HTC phone.
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This looks pretty sweet.

HTC Ville detailed: HTC Sense 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, thinner than iPhone

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I should clarify: LOOKS sweet. With only a dual core (after the Edge's Quad), no NFC, and yet another crappy HTC battery, definately not worth waiting for.
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This looks pretty sweet.

HTC Ville detailed: HTC Sense 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, thinner than iPhone

Still wish Sense - in varying degrees - was optional on HTC phones.
That's probably just a non-Verizon Rezound. It has all the same specs except for the qHD (ew) display and ICS. The Rezound will get ICS before the Ville even comes out. It is thinner than the ReFatty, though

Edit: Augh, Ytram ninja'd me, said the same thing I did

Edit 2: WOOH 250 posts!! That's literally 1% of Steven's post count!
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That's probably just a non-Verizon Rezound. It has all the same specs except for the qHD (ew) display and ICS. The Rezound will get ICS before the Ville even comes out. It is thinner than the ReFatty, though
I do love how qHD gets an "ew" from us now

According to that post it's not even SAMOLED+, so there's also going to be a bunch of "ZOMG SCREEN DOOR" comments too
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I do love how qHD gets an "ew" from us now

According to that post it's not even SAMOLED+, so there's also going to be a bunch of "ZOMG SCREEN DOOR" comments too
Haha, I'm stuck with my WVGA Touch Pro2, so I guess I shouldn't be dissing qHD, but it has been getting a bad rap recently. My friend's T-Mo HTC Sensation's qHD screen is pretty nice though. However, I think I noticed a green hue. *shrug*

Whatevs, GN is getting 720p, that's all that matters to me
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That's probably just a non-Verizon Rezound. It has all the same specs except for the qHD (ew) display and ICS. The Rezound will get ICS before the Ville even comes out. It is thinner than the ReFatty, though

Edit: Augh, Ytram ninja'd me, said the same thing I did

Edit 2: WOOH 250 posts!! That's literally 1% of Steven's post count!
Isn't the rehound a snapdragon S3? According to this
Leaked HTC Ville on tap for Mobile World Congress announcementAndroidGuys

The Ville is a S4 processor, which is a Krait processor
AnandTech - Qualcomm's New Snapdragon S4: MSM8960 & Krait Architecture Explored

If so, this is the first Krait that I've seen leak.

btw, congrats on 250 posts! Woot!
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Wow. Go away for a bit and we're already too close to 25K in here. It's growing so fast that I can barely read it fast enough.
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Wow. Go away for a bit and we're already too close to 25K in here. It's growing so fast that I can barely read it fast enough.
Funny how even on no news days, this thread has great velocity! Seems to take away the sting of no news.
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I should clarify: LOOKS sweet. With only a dual core (after the Edge's Quad), no NFC, and yet another crappy HTC battery, definately not worth waiting for.
Article said S4 - that's quad core. Another quality piece from BGR.

Fwiw (not much in this crowd ) if that qHD screen is one of the new Sharp mobile ASV displays, it's likely to join the ranks of the most color-accurate displays out there (admittedly a niche market).

Agree the battery is a step backwards tho.
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I do love how qHD gets an "ew" from us now

According to that post it's not even SAMOLED+, so there's also going to be a bunch of "ZOMG SCREEN DOOR" comments too
Keep in mind, that's just an article and not an official spec sheet. Not unusual for an article to miss a detail like that.

I'd pretty much guarantee that's it would be SAMOLED+.

The reason old phones didn't use SAMOLED+ was because Samsung didn't have the capability to print subpixels at that resolution. Once they refined thier process, pretty much everything coming off the line is SAMOLED+ now. Can you think of a recently released phone using an AMOLDED display that doesn't use the + version? I find it highly unlikely we'll se qHD screens in anything but RGB configurations from here out.

GNex is in the same boat. Samsung can't print HD screens with 3 subpixels at that resolution. So we're stuck with pentile.
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