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True. Its hard to tell and all speculation. But interesting either way. I was just thinking as a business person. $299 for a 16gb model is better than $249. Then I'd offer both options when sales start to subside at the price points you suggest. Then discount from there then sales slow again.

Who other than Verizon knows at this point. At least now we're seeing why it was said the phone is Verizon's.

Yeah you wonder why verizon thinks it is a good idea to stubbornly remain silent on their upcoming devices and infuriate customers and potential customers.
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Damn, go to Hulu, and the frickin' razr commercial. Now it's mocking me.
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Today has been one of lurk days around the forums, just posted a few times today.

What a day around here, yes?

I'm still floored by Google Nexus page update to remove the 32 GB reference, I really am.

For those that missed it - the UK model is clearly 16/32 on their web -

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But srsly - no way I could keep lurking after brad's video - genius!
Actually if I remember correctly the UK model was originally listed at 16 GB only and LTE was 16/32. It would seem they simply got reversed. Now whether that was a correction to a previous mistake or a new mistake is anyone's guess.
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BTW I have a question:

Why do carriers work differently in the US than they do in Europe? I don't get why our carriers get to take control of everything and buying a phone off-contract is considered ridiculous here in the states, whereas most people in Europe buy off-contract and the carriers are much more open and understanding? Someone please answer my question

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Ok, that verizon boardroom video got my completely uninterested wife to laugh.
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My silly conspiracy theories sometimes have a way of working themselves into investment analysis blogs - I'll be watching for this one. Last one was within the last 6 weeks, don't recall which one.

Well, because thinking verizon's nose is brown from being up apple's butt isn't a bad theory at all lol it's totally plausible
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I had to leave 4 a few hours, what's the latest? 11/21 still possible? 12/8 rumor confirmed ?
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I had to leave 4 a few hours, what's the latest? 11/21 still possible? 12/8 rumor confirmed ?
Any time next week is highly likely, the week afterwards is less likely, 12/8 is looking pretty unlikely to me. Definitely not confirmed, I can tell you that.
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We don't know. Anything is possible. Verizon is silent, as usual
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If they only have the 16 gb they will definitely be charging $299 for it. Which is really lame because everything else has 32 and it can't cost them much to have 32 instead. It would be obvious skimping imo
Honestly if Verizon does that I think I pass on the Verizon SGN and wait for my contract to expire and go to AT&T. I expect them to eventually match Verizon's double data and that will be enough for me to tell Verizon FU and give up the grandfathered unlimited data. By then AT&T will at least have the SGN and most likely something even better.
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Finally watched that video and it was awesome.
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Has anyone noticed how much bigger the international version's battery looks than the LTE version?
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Strange, considering the fact that the LTE version packs an extra 100 mAh...
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Srry ot but I forgot how good Monty's Holy Grail is. on IFC love it!
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Honestly if Verizon does that I think I pass on the Verizon SGN and wait for my contract to expire and go to AT&amp;T. I expect them to eventually match Verizon's double data and that will be enough for me to tell Verizon FU and give up the grandfathered unlimited data. By then AT&amp;T will at least have the SGN and most likely something even better.

Verizon is the example of how huge, successful companies with good products lose customers and market share. Eventually people don't care how good your products are if you act like they are morons
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Honestly if Verizon does that I think I pass on the Verizon SGN and wait for my contract to expire and go to AT&amp;T. I expect them to eventually match Verizon's double data and that will be enough for me to tell Verizon FU and give up the grandfathered unlimited data. By then AT&amp;T will at least have the SGN and most likely something even better.

My thoughts exactly. I was thinking either AT&T or Sprint.
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Steven, I don't want to sound like an ass. But, can you stop changing the thread title release date to dates that are "rumored". I think you should have the thread title release date as "now or until 12/31". In the OP, you should have rumored dates with links to the source of the rumor. That way, we don't have to sift through 100s of pages of BS. Most importantly, we can also make a determination ourselves. The way the thread title is, right now, many people will incorrectly believe that 12/8 is the actual release date.

P.S. Your source was wrong. :P
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Well put!
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BTW I have a question:

Why do carriers work differently in the US than they do in Europe? I don't get why our carriers get to take control of everything and buying a phone off-contract is considered ridiculous here in the states, whereas most people in Europe buy off-contract and the carriers are much more open and understanding? Someone please answer my question
It's mostly consumer driven, but it's also a product of network tech CDMA vs GSM and such where GSM is more standardized. Then there is the further complication of multiple bands of licensed spectrum being different in the all the countries. Basically CDMA has always been a tech where neworks had more control over the devices while GSM forces SIM's and open device switch without the network having much control. CDMA is technically capable of the same thing, but not really a forced standard feature if you will like GSM.

The 700mhz spectrum auction forced rules on Verizon where they are supposed to support the same open device sales you get with GSM, but this will require LTE device OEMs to actually get world phone multiband LTE devices in the pipe which is a good few years off as many countries don't even have LTE yet and we don't even know which bands of spectrum LTE will end up on mostly worldwide. We'll see, but VZW's move to LTE will slowly force them into customers deciding which devices they want most outside their own control. For now they still have more or less TOTAL control of which devices are built for their network even though they shouldn't and this is mostly because we all expect the subsidy in to broad a scale as customers. As well we should for what we pay per month compared to many other countries. Basically we should be demanding full priced phones with cheaper plan pricing.
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Honestly, EarlyMon's conspiracy theory aside, it's likely way too late in the game to change the specs on the phone to 16 gb. That'd be a lot of product someone would have to eat or change. If we were back in say.. September.. maybe. It'd definitely take longer than the time to get us to the rumored December 8th date between remanufacturing, loading the phones with software, shipping and distribution to retail locations. Not to mention changing all of the Verizon posters we saw earlier to reflect the change.. Verizon would be cutting it's nose off to spite it's face.
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Seeing that video reminds me of the "The Verge" show where they discussed the RAZR a little. One guy says "You can be thin but if you have an ugly face, well, your just thin and ugly".

I have not seen the RAZR's display for myself. If it is as bad as everyone says, I think maybe we will see the return of CK?
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Yep. Untill Verizon releases it. It is just all rumors. We will know the real deal and specs only when Verizon lets us know upon release.
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Someone at Google went into their site and clicked the edit button. Either the original 16/32GB spec or the now 16GB only is a mistake. Our problem is we have no way of knowing which is the mistake at this point.
Going on the theory that Google knows how to manage web pages - please note that if instead of google.com/nexus you go to google.co.uk/nexus you'll find the UK page still shows 16/32.

I still think there was no mistake - I think the change was driven by Verizon and accepted by Google.

Of course, not that it's making me all twitchy or anything but at this point, any info change on the Gnex is accompanied by me looking for snakes under the bed and monsters in the closet.
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Steven, I don't want to sound like an ass. But, can you stop changing the thread title release date to dates that are "rumored". I think you should have the thread title release date as "now or until 12/31". In the OP, you should have rumored dates with links to the source of the rumor. That way, we don't have to sift through 100s of pages of BS. Most importantly, we can also make a determination ourselves. The way the thread title is, right now, many people will incorrectly believe that 12/8 is the actual release date.
I agree. It's very misleading and totally inaccurate; until you can get a reasonably reliable, legitimate date don't just go updating the title to whatever comes across...
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Honestly, EarlyMon's conspiracy theory aside, it's likely way too late in the game to change the specs on the phone to 16 gb. That'd be a lot of product someone would have to eat or change. If we were back in say.. September.. maybe. It'd definitely take longer than the time to get us to the rumored December 8th date between remanufacturing, loading the phones with software, shipping and distribution to retail locations. Not to mention changing all of the Verizon posters we saw earlier to reflect the change.. Verizon would be cutting it's nose off to spite it's face.
You're probably right. So, given that insiders and testers have steadily indicated 32 GB for VZW - what happened?
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Going on the theory that Google knows how to manage web pages - please note that if instead of google.com/nexus you go to google.co.uk/nexus you'll find the UK page still shows 16/32.

I still think there was no mistake - I think the change was driven by Verizon and accepted by Google.

Of course, not that it's making me all twitchy or anything but at this point, any info change on the Gnex is accompanied by me looking for snakes under the bed and monsters in the closet.
Is it possible that Google is egging us on for more advertising????
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If I put your idea and Khatmandu's idea together, maybe there's some issue about carrier differentiation and how to do the specs at this point for the USA.

Or something else, dunno.
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Yep. Untill Verizon releases it. It is just all rumors. We will know the real deal and spec only when Vreizon lets us know upon release.
Now that I stop and think about it this way I realize how pointless this whole thread actually is. It's fun to speculate and all, but in the end Verizon will announce something, we'll all go out and get our GNexi, and that will be the end of it, many hours of lurking gone to waste :/
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What if Verizon saw the huge interest in the phone and decided they want to sell their 16gb versions only right out the gate for $300, and save the 32gb for later and then price the 32gb at 299, and the 16gb at 250 later on. But they really just want to milk us.

Would that deter anyone from buying the GNex or staying with Verizon?
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Now that I stop and think about it this way I realize how pointless this whole thread actually is. It's fun to speculate and all, but in the end Verizon will announce something, we'll all go out and get our GNexi, and that will be the end of it, many hours of lurking gone to waste :/
Not all to waste. I've definitely laughed a lot. And made new friends.
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The consensus has been to change the title when we have more than one source with a date.
So the two sources include the picture of a picture of a screen that could very well have been faked and another picture of the same possibly faked screen?

Sorry if I'm being way too skeptical and doubting of the 12/8 document thing, but it just seems way off and there's nothing stopping someone from making a Word document that looks like that. I just feel that, like vandyman said, nothing is certain until Verizon announces it and that's that.
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How would we know it for us to be deterred before it was too late?
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Going on the theory that Google knows how to manage web pages - please note that if instead of google.com/nexus you go to google.co.uk/nexus you'll find the UK page still shows 16/32.

I still think there was no mistake - I think the change was driven by Verizon and accepted by Google.

Of course, not that it's making me all twitchy or anything but at this point, any info change on the Gnex is accompanied by me looking for snakes under the bed and monsters in the closet.
Actually, earlier in the day the UK page only showed 16 while the US page was 16/32...
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If I put your idea and Khatmandu's idea together, maybe there's some issue about carrier differentiation and how to do the specs at this point for the USA.

Or something else, dunno.
They have to be backwards. US=16/32 and UK=16.
If the US is only gone to be 16GB, I would only pay $199 subed.
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I'm not saying its right or wrong. But pm Steven if you have a request about it as he is the OP.
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Now that I stop and think about it this way I realize how pointless this whole thread actually is. It's fun to speculate and all, but in the end Verizon will announce something, we'll all go out and get our GNexi, and that will be the end of it, many hours of lurking gone to waste :/
Yes, I agree. If someone could create a thread with rumor dates and sources on one freakin page, that would make it less time-consuming to get updated. Time is such a valuable thing to waste. I guess I'll just limit myself to "google searching" for the offical release date (10 seconds of my time a day).
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You're probably right. So, given that insiders and testers have steadily indicated 32 GB for VZW - what happened?

It is just so weird because 32 gb was spoken like a fact by anybody who had their hands on the phone.
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Not all to waste. I've definitely laughed a lot. And made new friends.
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus/401681-official-galaxy-nexus-pre-release-thread-12-8-release-date-687.html#post3484696
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Going on the theory that Google knows how to manage web pages - please note that if instead of google.com/nexus you go to google.co.uk/nexus you'll find the UK page still shows 16/32.

I still think there was no mistake - I think the change was driven by Verizon and accepted by Google.

Of course, not that it's making me all twitchy or anything but at this point, any info change on the Gnex is accompanied by me looking for snakes under the bed and monsters in the closet.
I agree ( the snakes and monsters part). Stock has been shipped at this point....wasn't the version that went through FCC the 32 Gig version anyway???
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What if Verizon saw the huge interest in the phone and decided they want to sell their 16gb versions only right out the gate for $300, and save the 32gb for later and then price the 32gb at 299, and the 16gb at 250 later on. But they really just want to milk us.

Would that deter anyone from buying the GNex or staying with Verizon?
This combined with miscalculation of demand share for these three new LTE Androids could be our answer. Might have ordered both for release, but decided to do this and order mostly 16gb for second delivery while holding 32gb from initial order until demand lessens and you can do the 32gb intro and 16gb price drop.
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I'm not saying its right or wrong. But pm Steven if you have a request about it as he is the OP.
Naw, it's fine. Seems like you guys are having fun with it anyways. I guess I will rely on trusty Google Search for Google Galaxy Nexus release info.
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The 12/8 date makes sense because it would follow with what we've heard about canada. (Although in canada they aren't getting the lte version off the bat). Either way, this has been frustrating all around.
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I was just playing darts on my calendar and I hit November 21. Coincidence? I highly doubt it...

I assume Verizon is doing something similar in their board meetings.
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I don't know how much more I can take, Setting here late every night watching this thread. My wife's complaining how much more I'm smoking, and she can't get to the computer. Maybe thats why she's sleeping on the couch tonight.
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You're probably right. So, given that insiders and testers have steadily indicated 32 GB for VZW - what happened?
Did notice another change looking over the page now.. the 1 GB ram wasn't there earlier.. just the 16/32 gb storage. Possible when adding that they mixed up the UK and US versions of the phone, plus none of the UK vendors are selling a 32 gb version that I can see using the 'buy now' button.
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