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Old October 7th, 2011, 12:34 PM   #4001 (permalink)
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How do you know that when nothing official has been announced?
Sorry, Your not going to get a debate from me.

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Apparently, theres no room in business for being admirable and respectful.
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" A good source within the industry has indicated that a lot of the rumors floating around about an impending launch of the Samsung Prime this month, are way off base. According to our source, the Verizon Samsung Prime will not be available this year, and that its release is "definitely" set for the first quarter of 2012. This is one time when we would prefer if our source was wrong. "

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To answer your question, no.
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The only thing that is delayed is the announcement , not the launch date. It does not matter if they announce it today, next week or what ever. The launch date will stay the same. So I say what delay?
Because then I can stop reading this thread and start waiting for this and my garmin FR 910xt to actually show up at my door.
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To say that it isn't the "real" reason is baseless speculation. All we have to go by is what they tell us. If SJ's funeral is Tuesday, or Monday, or anytime next week, the Nexus event will be pretty much forgotten. The press, media, and fans will all be tuned into the funeral. They do not want to get frozen out by the consumers. Neither Samsung nor Google are hurting for money, they can wait a week or so. Better that than come off as heartless to the people who put money in their pockets.
You just agreed with my theory. They are postponing for better media coverage, not necessarily ONLY out of respect for SJ. Thats all im saying.
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Sorry, Your not going to get a debate from me.
Not trying to, just making sure I wasn't missing something
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" A good source within the industry has indicated that a lot of the rumors floating around about an impending launch of the Samsung Prime this month, are way off base. According to our source, the Verizon Samsung Prime will not be available this year, and that its release is "definitely" set for the first quarter of 2012. This is one time when we would prefer if our source was wrong. "

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that's the same rumor posted over on DF earlier this week. i don't buy it. i think their wires are crossed, and they're talking about the Nexus device for the other carriers.
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Old October 7th, 2011, 12:42 PM   #4008 (permalink)
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yeah those twitter guys or those tipsters arent proved either...

nothing official yet... but indeed those speculations are very amusing
While I don't know much about P3Droid (have heard many good things about his reliability), BMX has always proven himself and his tweets trustworthy. Amidst all of the crazy release dates being thrown around with the ThunderBolt, he had predicted it correct since the very beginning. He is an inside and he definitely can be trusted.
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You just agreed with my theory. They are postponing for better media coverage, not necessarily ONLY out of respect for SJ. Thats all im saying.
They're both hand in hand. I'm not agreeing with your theory. They are postponing it out of respect for Jobs, who will likely be interred next week. I do not honestly believe they have any ulterior motives behind the postponement. They, like the rest of the tech world, have immense respect for Jobs, even though they are competitors. There's no point in being a conspiracy theorist about it.
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Just want to thank you all for a great forum!!! Love how we can all talk and debate without getting angry.

4000 POSTS!!!! WUT!!!
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It's also interesting to note that for all people whine about Scorpion/Snapdragon.. it sure isn't baseline Cortex-A8
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Exactly!!! I'm not believing any specs of the phone until it has been made official.
Not trying to be rude (I'm actually curious), but if this is the case, why exactly are you on this forum? Unless there is an official announcement from Google or Samsung, everything that you hear/read is ALL rumor. Now that being said, there are certain people on the forum, blogs, twitter, etc. that are highly respected and have been correct with the info they have provided before. We are all on hear trying to decipher what rumor is real or not and piece together to the best of our ability, the true Prime. Again, until we get an official announcement, everything on this board is pure rumor, but that makes the wait that much more fun for me.
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Idk if it was said already but did anyone notice in the Samsung Unpacked Teaser the power button was on the right and the one in the new leaked video is on the left when he turns the screen off. The way the screens look when he is deciding to put a widget on it reminds me of TouchWiz 4. Could it be an overlay or a few TouchWiz parts added. Just saying. Could this be the Verizon one and the actual Nexus Phone will be a little different. Also, you know Verizon is somewhat hipped to OMAP. If it does have one, then maybe Verizon's is OMAP and the Google original is Exynos 1.5ghz. Remember the conflicting stories of GSM & BGR.
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They're both hand in hand. I'm not agreeing with your theory. They are postponing it out of respect for Jobs, who will likely be interred next week. I do not honestly believe they have any ulterior motives behind the postponement. They, like the rest of the tech world, have immense respect for Jobs, even though they are competitors. There's no point in being a conspiracy theorist about it.
I understand your point. I'm not trying to be a "conspiracy theorist", I just have a different opinion and don't like to believe what people tell me without questioning it. Not saying I wouldnt like to believe, but I personally just find it unrealistic. Although it's pointless to debate the exact reasons why. The main point is that the announcement is delayed!
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So, I think I know the answer, but what is the likelyhood that they are only delaying the announcement--coming out and officially saying the specs and everything--to improve on hardware. I mean, are we at a point where they would already have thousands of units built? So, is this more likely a hardware upgrade or software? It sounds liksoftware from vz-wired.
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I understand your point. I'm not trying to be a "conspiracy theorist", I just have a different opinion and don't like to believe what people tell me without questioning it. Not saying I wouldnt like to believe, but I personally just find it unrealistic. Although it's pointless to debate the exact reasons why. The main point is that the announcement is delayed!
Yep, the important part is that the announcement will be delayed, which is unfortunate. However, I believe I can wait until it launches, especially seeing as I might have to wait awhile for it to hit AT&T.
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Not trying to be rude (I'm actually curious), but if this is the case, why exactly are you on this forum? Unless there is an official announcement from Google or Samsung, everything that you hear/read is ALL rumor. Now that being said, there are certain people on the forum, blogs, twitter, etc. that are highly respected and have been correct with the info they have provided before. We are all on hear trying to decipher what rumor is real or not and piece together to the best of our ability, the true Prime. Again, until we get an official announcement, everything on this board is pure rumor, but that makes the wait that much more fun for me.
I'm here to read all of the speculation and hype. Just because I don't believe most of it doesn't mean I don't enjoy reading about it
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Anyone notice that the leaked screenshots have the build series as "yakju"...which is korean booze?
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Oh. Nevermind. Sorry. Didn't read and catch up. The idea is that its out of respect. And we are divided in here between that and them delaying it to fix something? It being the announcement, not the release.
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" A good source within the industry has indicated that a lot of the rumors floating around about an impending launch of the Samsung Prime this month, are way off base. According to our source, the Verizon Samsung Prime will not be available this year, and that its release is "definitely" set for the first quarter of 2012. This is one time when we would prefer if our source was wrong. "

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Absolutely not. This is pure rubbish and you should be severely punished for posting this.

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This is your post for #4000? This? Seriously?

 
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seems someone else is thinking the same thing too
That's it!!! I knew I recognized the UI on that phone that was shown in the video this morning! It looks like my fiance's Epic 4G Touch! The way they tilt the phone to place the widget on which home screen they want, that is TOUCHWHIZ! Wow... That story is DEAD ON! Everyone go read it and watch the video again. The droid guys are onto something. They are thinking exactly what I'm thinking.
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This is your post for #4000? This?

Yeah, I was looking for a little more inspiration too.
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Yeah, I was looking for a little more inspiration too.

Sad. Well, you got 4k. Way to go.
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I'm here to read all of the speculation and hype. Just because I don't believe most of it doesn't mean I don't enjoy reading about it
Fair enough. I enjoy it too!
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This is your post for #4000? This? Seriously?

Crap... I shall go stand in the corner for 30 minutes I honestly figured 4000 had already been reached when I posted that. I now feel as though I let the entire forum down.
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This is your post for #4000? This? Seriously?


Han! Good to see you haven't left for good.
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Are we becoming Andriod Zombies just like Apple Zombies? I can't just keep waiting to even find out if Sprint will even get this phone!! I need to get a phone now. I was going to wait to hear if and when Sprint would getthis phone on OCT 11. Now I have to wait just to wait some more. I have loved Andriod and have turned alot of people onto Andriod. I must be alone but I wanted to share. This last move has me actually think about just pre-ordering the Iphone 4S today. Without knowing when or if this thing is even comming to Sprint I just cant wait to wait just to find out IF and When. Maybe if i knew the rumored Nov 24 release for Sprint was true I could squeeze another month of patients, but the IPHONE 4S is here now!! The Nexus Prime may not be on Sprint untill early 2012!!!

Maybe its just me but one thing Apple did do right is release the phone the same time for all carriers. That is how every phone should work. Let the customers decide what network they want and not be steered to a network for a certain phone!!! Ok I'm done ranting thanks for listening (or reading) lol...
dude, there are a couple of android phones offered by sprint that, personally, i'd pick up in a heartbeat over the iphone 4s. i mean, don't they have the SGSII?...honestly, if VZW had the SGSII right now, i'd already have it in my hands instead of worrying about when the prime is gonna hit the shelves. but that's just me, and my OG Droid is getting too long in the tooth.

(oh, and apple didn't release a version of their iphone on 3 out of the 4 major carriers in the US until 4 years after they first debuted the iphone. remember?...at&t exclusivity for a few years?)

it's coo' though - I understand you're a little blinded by your passion for the prime
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Crap... I shall go stand in the corner for 30 minutes I honestly figured 4000 had already been reached when I posted that. I now feel as though I let the entire forum down.

Hahahaha. Just say you thought Steven had it pegged.
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Yeah, I was looking for a little more inspiration too.
Where's Chief today? I'd expect full Chief-like participation during such a momentous event as 4000 posts. Since we have no other momentous event to look forward to for a while...
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This is a really good read for SoC nerds.. especially if you wan't to know why performance is more than just clock speed.

It's also interesting to note that for all people whine about Scorpion/Snapdragon.. it sure isn't baseline Cortex-A8
What's missing in that article is Samsung's new quad core Exynos with Maili-T604 GPU that will go into SGSIII next year. If Krait S4 is only 30% faster than A9 clock for clock, Sammy's new quad core Exynos beast will have no problem beating it hands down.
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If there are indeed two prime phones, I could see them being on the same level as the Nexus One and the Droid Incredible, which were very similar in specs, and only had a few differences, the main one being Sense on the DInc.
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dude, there are a couple of android phones offered by sprint that, personally, i'd pick up in a heartbeat over the iphone 4s. i mean, don't they have the SGSII?...honestly, if VZW had the SGSII right now, i'd already have it in my hands instead of worrying about when the prime is gonna hit the shelves. but that's just me, and my OG Droid is getting too long in the tooth.

(oh, and apple didn't release a version of their iphone on 3 out of the 4 major carriers in the US until 4 years after they first debuted the iphone. remember?...at&t exclusivity for a few years?)
Thanks jmt for writing what I was thinking. Oh yeah, there's a whole lot of us in this forum who would've been all over SGS2 LTE for VZW if it'd come out. Helluva nice phone!
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That's it!!! I knew I recognized the UI on that phone that was shown in the video this morning! It looks like my fiance's Epic 4G Touch! The way they tilt the phone to place the widget on which home screen they want, that is TOUCHWHIZ! Wow... That story is DEAD ON! Everyone go read it and watch the video again. The droid guys are onto something. They are thinking exactly what I'm thinking.
ok, but we don't know which one is which, and which one is coming to vzw. if we assume 2 different devices, there are several possibilities:

1. VZW gets the pure, vanilla Nexus with the GSMArena specs
2. VZW gets the pure, vanilla Nexus with the BGR/DL specs
3. VZW gets the Touchwiz, non-stock Prime with the GSMArena specs
4. VZW gets the Touchwiz, non-stock Prime with the BGR/DL specs

i'm using VZW in these examples, since most believe VZW will have an exclusive ICS device at least for a while.
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I just sent him a text. Haven't talked to him since the Incredible was released. I'll see if I can get him back in here. haha
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What's missing in that article is Samsung's new quad core Exynos with Maili-T604 GPU that will go into SGSIII next year. If Krait S4 is only 30% faster than A9 clock for clock, Sammy's new quad core Exynos beast will have no problem beating it hands down.
Exynos isn't all that much faster than baseline A9 either.. it's real power is that Mali400 is one of the best performing GPUs on the market, with room to spare at 200MHz..

Check out the discussion of Adreno 225 on page 3... hoooly crap. Qualcomm (and Samsung) know that the future of SoC performance is in the GPU, not necessarily in the CPU..

I thought it was interesting that Krait supports dual channel PoP now, too..

Dual channel LPDDR2 was very uncommon in SoC to this point, because you could only do a single channel PoP, had to put the other channel on the package..

Edit: Also, I haven't seen that Samsung has said anything about an Exynos quad-core. nVidia and Qualcomm are the only ones who have even paper-launched quad-core.
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That's it!!! I knew I recognized the UI on that phone that was shown in the video this morning! It looks like my fiance's Epic 4G Touch! The way they tilt the phone to place the widget on which home screen they want, that is TOUCHWHIZ! Wow... That story is DEAD ON! Everyone go read it and watch the video again. The droid guys are onto something. They are thinking exactly what I'm thinking.
I must respectfully disagree. To me, that is clearly an new version of Android's stock launcher. Also, Touchwiz includes their power widget in the status bar, which is not present in this video (even though I wish stock Android would include that). Touchwiz has always been quite a distinct overlay and I just don't see that here. Just MHO
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ok, but we don't know which one is which, and which one is coming to vzw. if we assume 2 different devices, there are several possibilities:

1. VZW gets the pure, vanilla Nexus with the GSMArena specs
2. VZW gets the pure, vanilla Nexus with the BGR/DL specs
3. VZW gets the Touchwiz, non-stock Prime with the GSMArena specs
4. VZW gets the Touchwiz, non-stock Prime with the BGR/DL specs

i'm using VZW in these examples, since most believe VZW will have an exclusive ICS device at least for a while.
There ARE several possibilities. However, since that leak this morning was out of Germmany or something, so that's Europe and European bands, I would say that is the GSM phone. So, that's the phone for everyone else. Since VZ_Wired is saying that the BGR and Droid-life specs were wrong, and he obviously is, apparently, a Verizon Wireless employee of some sorts, I would say that Verizon is getting the better phone with the GSM Arena specs. I could have it backwards though. Every other carrier but Verizon got the GSII, so I can't see Verizon holding out for something less as good as what all of the other U.S. carriers are going to get in a month or two. Ya know? Just my thoughts.
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There ARE several possibilities. However, since that leak this morning was out of Germmany or something, so that's Europe and European bands, I would say that is the GSM phone. So, that's the phone for everyone else. Since VZ_Wired is saying that the BGR and Droid-life specs were wrong, and he obviously is, apparently, a Verizon Wireless employee of some sorts, I would say that Verizon is getting the better phone with the GSM Arena specs. I could have it backwards though. Every other carrier but Verizon got the GSII, so I can't see Verizon holding out for something less as good as what all of the other U.S. carriers are going to get in a month or two. Ya know? Just my thoughts.
sound analysis, my friend; very sound.

altho, if no one can agree on whether the video is stock or TW, we're not gonna make much progress... lol
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I must respectfully disagree. To me, that is clearly an new version of Android's stock launcher. Also, Touchwiz includes their power widget in the status bar, which is not present in this video (even though I wish stock Android would include that). Touchwiz has always been quite a distinct overlay and I just don't see that here. Just MHO
Agreed. Though I see some similarity in the way widgets are added, it's looking like mostly stock ICS. I think that's somewhat old video with outdated proto-type hardware.
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ok, but we don't know which one is which, and which one is coming to vzw. if we assume 2 different devices, there are several possibilities:

1. VZW gets the pure, vanilla Nexus with the GSMArena specs
2. VZW gets the pure, vanilla Nexus with the BGR/DL specs
3. VZW gets the Touchwiz, non-stock Prime with the GSMArena specs
4. VZW gets the Touchwiz, non-stock Prime with the BGR/DL specs

i'm using VZW in these examples, since most believe VZW will have an exclusive ICS device at least for a while.
Since verizons version is supposed to be a replacement of the droid charge VZW might be the one getting the touchwiz version, although I hope not. I hate touchwiz
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So the general consensus is that the video showcases an outdated prototype with an older version of ICS. and its not the VZW version since the video was from Germany?
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I must respectfully disagree. To me, that is clearly an new version of Android's stock launcher. Also, Touchwiz includes their power widget in the status bar, which is not present in this video (even though I wish stock Android would include that). Touchwiz has always been quite a distinct overlay and I just don't see that here. Just MHO
Yeah, you're right. Maybe Ice Cream Sandwich just kinda has some borrowed features from Touchwhiz, which wouldn't be a bad thing. But you're right, I watched the video some more and that is the new version of Android. It just looks a lot different than what we're all used to, and I mean that in a VERY good way. It is very pretty, and looks to be a big improvement. You're right though.
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Hey guys, just want to check in with a few things (sorry for the longer post):

1. During our breaks (and non-breaks, lol) a bunch of us surf the forums on our phones and laptops, and we compare a lot of what we hear vs. what's the truth. I just want to say that BY FAR you guys (and gals) are the smartest group we're seeing. It's amazing how quick you guys are up to date on what's going on. Unfortunately, a lot of what's swirling around is utter bull, but still, you have no way of knowing that. And you're smart because you guys are SO DAMN CLOSE! Taking your posts piece by piece, from our perspective, we can pretty much say that you're spot on regarding what's coming for VZ. Unfortunately, you're all contradicting each other so it gets muddy, but hilarious.

2. CTIA announcement date is NOT 10/27.

3. Release date is NOT 10/27.

Again, it's subject to change, but from what I know it won't.

Please, hang in there people. You will be very satisfied with this phone. I, as well as 6 other guys I work with, are buying this phone at an unsubsidized price (no, I don't get a discount on hardware, only plan).

We've had our hands on it, and it's a total beast.
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There ARE several possibilities. However, since that leak this morning was out of Germmany or something, so that's Europe and European bands, I would say that is the GSM phone. So, that's the phone for everyone else. Since VZ_Wired is saying that the BGR and Droid-life specs were wrong, and he obviously is, apparently, a Verizon Wireless employee of some sorts, I would say that Verizon is getting the better phone with the GSM Arena specs. I could have it backwards though. Every other carrier but Verizon got the GSII, so I can't see Verizon holding out for something less as good as what all of the other U.S. carriers are going to get in a month or two. Ya know? Just my thoughts.
It was out of Romania, btw

But it also didn't have a SIM card in it, so would that matter in terms of bands?
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So the general consensus is that the video showcases an outdated prototype with an older version of ICS. and its not the VZW version since the video was from Germany?
Yeah, that's how I feel. How could a German tester test a Verizon 4G Nexus device when there isn't even Verizon CDMA OR Verizon LTE in Germany? Unless, of course, the video was taken in the United States and leaked through a German website, which I find hard to believe.
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