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Old November 21st, 2011, 09:03 PM   #43851 (permalink)
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Shudders.

Bing isn't bad, but I think a Google phone should have google. However, if Bing came to my house and offered me millions to start using it, I would switch in a heartbeat. Basically, that's what MS did to Verizon. They made some deals for Bing to be the default search engine on some phones. Even Apple made that deal, since MS was handing out cash.
Yeah, and then Microsoft got wise and realized why pay to support Bing when they could just get royalties from Android itself. Amazing how quick Bing disappeared once MS started getting kickbacks.

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I was hoping for better reviews considering they went with a 5MP. The zero shutter lag was more costly than I originally thought.
There was a review recently comparing the GNex vs SGSII camera. They were close for most shots, with the nod going to the GNex. But night shots weren't even in the same ballpark. Gnex was far and away better.

It was stated that Google picked the 5MP sensor for superior low light performance.

I'll see if I can find the comparison.
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A lil happier yes but still the anticipation for a release date is agony. I would love to believe the BB flyer for 11/27 but I am thinking its wrong. They most often are with their advertisements...

For the record, I vote "no" to the BB report, for the record.
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Since there's still some controversy about how this holiday return policy works, I thought I'd chime in with some thoughts.

It's clear that different verizon reps are saying different things. I myself have heard two different things from two reps as I mentioned in my earlier (and first ever) post. Below is from the transcript I had with an online rep.

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CSR: If you return the phone in the 14 days you can get the upgrade back .
me: ah,great. this is helpful. i thought i saw somewhere a deal verizon was running where you have until jan 14 or some date around then to return phones. i don't remember the details exactly. do you happen to know which deal I'm talking about?
CSR: Okay, you are referring to the holiday return policy .
me: so how does that work? because if we buy a phone now? do we have until january 14th to return? not 14 days from now?
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CSR: Yes this is correct , if you order a phone today you will be able to return it by Jan. 15 2012.
me: does it matter whether i activate it or not?
CSR: Yes this is correct, if you activate the device you can still return it .
me: ... ok this is my last question, just so i can make sure i haven't missed anything
me: 1) i buy, for example, a razr today, signing up for the double data deal and also using an upgrade i have available. 2) i use this phone and assuming the nexus launches sometime between now and jan 15, i return the razr, pay a 35 dollar restock fee. 3) i use that same upgrade to buy the nexus, and i remain on the double data plan
CSR: Yes you can get the upgrade back if you return the phone by Jan 15 , I currently do not no if the promotion will still be on for double the data .
me: oo wait, but if i buy the razr now, dont i already get on the plan? so i would just be switching the razr for the nexus, not my plan.
CSR: Yes this is correct , you will still get this data package .
But it's also true that when I went into my local corporate store to buy the phone, the in-store sales rep mentioned I had 14 days from activation and that the holiday return date was for unactivated phones.

Based on this and the disagreement that seems to be raging on the board, we can all agree that different reps are saying different things. So that said, here are some things maybe worth considering.

First, a post a while back, someone mentioned that sales reps have an incentive for people not to return phones (something about how returns indicate that they didnt let the customer leave with the right phone?). I don't recall the exact logic, or incentive structure, but if something like this is true (and anyone more in the know please let us know!) that might help explain why some sales reps insist on 14 days from activation. They don't want to encourage you returning the phone! If this reasoning has any merit, it could also imply that a different rep wouldn't have any particular interest in refusing a return. Indeed, he or she is probably incentivized (via commission) to accept the return if you explain you plan to just immediately pick up a nexus.

Second, in my judgment, just looking at the text of the holiday return policy, it seems to mean that you have until Jan 15, full stop (no caveats about activation). (btw, this very text is reproduced on the receipt of the rezound i purchased today).

Third, that said, fine print isn't just small, it's normally tricky. So I don't rule out that in a sneaky legalistic way, the exact wording of the policy somehow leaves open not letting us return past 14 days. If anyone on the board can clearly spell out how this might be the case, I'm sure it'd be greatly appreciated.

Fourth, even assuming that we get in writing/get a note in our accounts from one rep that says we can return the phones up until Jan. 15, there is no guarantee that we won't be met by an arbitrary rep/manager who just refuses to honor it. I haven't had personal experience with this kind of thing at verizon myself, but as some people have said above, this kind of thing is certainly not unheard of at verizon. Maybe if it comes to this, you might just try a couple of different locations.

Finally, so given all this, I don't think there's some definitive answer as to what to do. As with most things, the best move is to weigh all the considerations and see what comes out on top all things considered. There's definitely risk. and on the other side of things, it's certainly not the case that you have 14 days from activation to return and you are so screwed if you try to "rent" is the correct answer as some posters have seemed to suggest.


hope this helps!
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Im pretty sure there will be some less than perfect, flaws or whatnot of the GN...BUT THERE ARE NO FLAWS WITH THIS FORUM, which the GN created, so no matter what, because of this thread...I will have my nexus!!!!!!!!
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I've never purchased a brand new phone and on the same day couldn't wait to get rid of it...

Just got a razr with the full intention of returning for the Nexus. To be honest, it's no nexus, but it's pretty nice. Just glad to have a working smartphone for the next week and a half or so.

I got it at best buy, and I asked her probably 5 times (just to make sure) about returning it and getting my money back and reversing my upgrade. She said that is no problem at all...I can return it within 14 days to get my money back and get my verizon upgrade back. The verizon upgrade reversal takes about 1 day to go through, but that's no problem.

Best part is...no restocking fee at best buy. I'm borrowing this phone for free, basically.
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Someone over at AC just pointed out that is you search Verizon's site for "Galaxy Nexus" you get a results pages with the Nexus banner up top, but if you search "Nexus Prime" you get redirected straight to the sign-up page. Interesting.
This means nothing except that Verizon is putting keywords in their metadata to try to match possible search terms customers might use. They know that the GN was called the "Nexus Prime" in the press for months, so they want to make sure anybody who searches using that name finds what they're looking for.

Search for "Vigor" and you'll get taken to a page listing all of HTC's phones. Same reason.

If it's a little inconsistent, it's just because the metadata is inconsistent from page to page. I'm involved in this kind of stuff professionally, so believe me, it's hard to get it right.
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Is anyone else a little bothered by the so-so reviews the camera on the SGN is receiving?
Yeah kinda bummed about the poor performance in low-light conditions (concerts, bars, etc.) but I'll get over it. That was the only knock and the pictures I saw looked very good. Plus the panoramics look awesome.
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Hm, did he say how he got word on it exactly? Corporate email or just word of mouth? I'm obsessed with the specifics
Good question, I didn't even think to ask.......I'll go back tomorrow and pick his brain.
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LOVE the pic of OTD! A very flattering (and rare) day shot of her!
That's not saying much.
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From what I know, smartphone data plans are different from standard phone data plans so even if you have unlimited data plan for a standard phone now, it wont transition to unlimited data plan for smartphones. I asked Verizon about this before they tiered their data plans and this is what they told me...
Yeah I work in IT and in my experience this is the case, unless something has changed...which is why I brought it up.
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Is anyone else a little bothered by the so-so reviews the camera on the SGN is receiving?

Not so good sir...the last review I saw compared the GNex camera with the GSII, and the GNex blew the GSII away in low light. Daylight were basically the same. IMHO, this is the second best camera out there (second only to the iPhone 4S)
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Windsock's latest tweet:

And now I'm one of very few people who is running Android 4.0.2.....Can't wait to see how this runs
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Renamed Nexus Prime? Link to come, or am I Ninja'd?

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/11/21/verizon-galaxy-nexus-to-launch-as-nexus-prime/
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https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/%21/petition/petition-verizon-release-details-galaxy-nexus/J1HJJgD3?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm _campaign=shorturl

Found this on reddit. I lol'd.
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Let's all try out best to be patient, and by avoiding the idea of "renting," the whole return policy debate can go away.
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For the record, I vote "no" to the BB report, for the record.
Aggggghhhh!

Again! Thinking "BabyBlues" is writing a report. Took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about. I need to take a break or something.
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Nope, if I need to take a real picture I will use my DSLR
the BEST camera, is the one you have with you. so planning on carrying your dslr around much, do you?
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TS looks in his crystal ball and sees the crowd gathering outside of Verizon headquarters.




Everyone is there, HanSolo, BabyBlues, Steven58 AntimonyER, The_Chief, Earlymon and OTD overhead doing aerial surveillance.

Verizon, Be afraid, be very afraid. lol

TS out

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I've never purchased a brand new phone and on the same day couldn't wait to get rid of it...

Just got a razr with the full intention of returning for the Nexus. To be honest, it's no nexus, but it's pretty nice. Just glad to have a working smartphone for the next week and a half or so.

I got it at best buy, and I asked her probably 5 times (just to make sure) about returning it and getting my money back and reversing my upgrade. She said that is no problem at all...I can return it within 14 days to get my money back and get my verizon upgrade back. The verizon upgrade reversal takes about 1 day to go through, but that's no problem.

Best part is...no restocking fee at best buy. I'm borrowing this phone for free, basically.

but what happens if you were to accidentally drop it and break the screen before you return it?
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It was rumored that a fix was being pushed soon. This may be some good news.
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Let's all try out best to be patient, and by avoiding the idea of "renting," the whole return policy debate can go away.
I agree, I successfully talked my own self out of going to pick one up. I don't really want to deal with a "temporary" brand new phone, and there's nothing extremely intriguing about either R-phones that I would want so badly that I can't wait.
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but what happens if you were to accidentally drop it and break the screen before you return it?
Insurance? I pay for it.

But otherwise the same thing that happens when you drop and break any phone. They took my 14 day old Incredible back, even though that saw the pavement a few times (just some small scratches).
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Let's all try out best to be patient, and by avoiding the idea of "renting," the whole return policy debate can go away.

I had to. My OG droid literally doesn't work anymore.

I rented a razr from best buy (no restocking fee), so I'm just glad to have a working smartphone now.
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Let's all try out best to be patient, and by avoiding the idea of "renting," the whole return policy debate can go away.
That doesnt help people that need to get on contract before the double data promo ends on the 30th, some of us arnt just impatient.
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but what happens if you were to accidentally drop it and break the screen before you return it?

Then I'll be paying $700 for a nexus.
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Found this on Reddit. I lolled.



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Ninja'd.

Haven't read the original post, butbsaw the quote a bit back. I lol'd so hard. That is utterly ridiculous. I wanted to sign it just cuz it was hilarious. Then I remembered its not a Thanks button.
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Renamed Nexus Prime? Link to come, or am I Ninja'd?

Verizon Galaxy Nexus to Launch as Nexus Prime?
You're ninja'd. But there is no way this is releasing as the Nexus Prime, and because of a leaked BestBuy ad? We're really stretching it here.

In fact, the only TWO offical releases both call this device the Galaxy Nexus. Both in Verizon's announcement and the Google page listing the LTE specs.
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Doing good. Thanks for asking. 32gb is a relief.
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You're ninja'd. But there is no way this is releasing as the Nexus Prime, and because of a leaked BestBuy ad? We're really stretching it here.

In fact, the only TWO offical releases both call this device the Galaxy Nexus. Both in Verizon's announcement and the Google page listing the LTE specs.

That is my first thought as well, but the possibility excites me. It's a much better name than Galaxy Nexus.
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im just saying,

for all those renting...

correct me if im wrong, if you drop and break the phone before the nexus comes out, then you cant return it (?) and so you will be stuck with the broken phone unless you have insurance and then you have to pay for a replacement and then try to return it?


just something to think about
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I just finally got caught up on posts from 10:00 last night til now. I must be the slowest reader in the history of comprehension
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That is hilarious. 2 signatures...lol
Hey look on the bright side, they're already...
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$799 for straight purchase? Wow!
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That is my first thought as well, but the possibility excites me. It's a much better name than Galaxy Nexus.
You just want your name to mean something again
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[QUOTE=nexusprimepls;3510707]Renamed Nexus Prime? Link to come, or am I Ninja'd?

Verizon Galaxy Nexus to Launch as Nexus Prime?[/QUOTE

If Verizon did this it would surprise me. But then again it is Verizon... A name is a name though who cares so long as its the Nexus and Verizon doesn't completely screw it up somehow.
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Been lurking since about page 500 but i thought I would let yall no that i caved and bought a rezound. Hopefully I dont get to attached before the gnex is released. Love the phone so far and lovin the 4g. So fast
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im just saying,

for all those renting...

correct me if im wrong, if you drop and break the phone before the nexus comes out, then you cant return it (?) and so you will be stuck with the broken phone unless you have insurance and then you have to pay for a replacement and then try to return it?


just something to think about
True, but again that's the same scenerio for any phone, regardless if you are renting or not. Either pay for the insurance, or assume the risk.

Note that I don't support renting, unless its to honestly give the other handsets a chance.
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im just saying,

for all those renting...

correct me if im wrong, if you drop and break the phone before the nexus comes out, then you cant return it (?) and so you will be stuck with the broken phone unless you have insurance and then you have to pay for a replacement and then try to return it?


just something to think about
Pretty sure that if you have to use the insurance it's a done deal because you may get a refurbished phone as a replacement...so you break it (or ding it or scratch it or anything)...you bought it
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Been lurking since about page 500 but i thought I would let yall no that i caved and bought a rezound. Hopefully I dont get to attached before the gnex is released. Love the phone so far and lovin the 4g. So fast
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Aggggghhhh!

Again! Thinking "BabyBlues" is writing a report. Took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about. I need to take a break or something.

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Here's the review of the GNex camera that is rather favorable.

Samsung Galaxy Nexus vs Samsung Galaxy SII (S2) [Camera Test] | Hemorrdroids.net
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It was rumored that a fix was being pushed soon. This may be some good news.
Yeah. If it's true I figure it could be good news. Not sure how all this works, but would guess that such late updates could be performed at POS if the BF sales are really wanted by the right peeps within VZW.

I still have a feeling though that they are worried about getting the quota of beans from Droid RAZR sales they had planned and that is driving this launch time frame more than anything else as Hans sister kinda alluded to.
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Why do people care so much about the camera being 5mp. You only need 8mp if you want to blow your pictures up to 8x10. Who on earth takes portrait photos of their family with a cell phone and blows it up to 8x10. My DX drives me nuts b/c it defaults to 8mp and I have to change the settings back to 3mp everytime I shoot snapshots with my phone.
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A lil happier yes but still the anticipation for a release date is agony. I would love to believe the BB flyer for 11/27 but I am thinking its wrong. They most often are with their advertisements...

Because of the name... I say no..... BB Flyer is wrong....

Just my 2 cents worth....
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im just saying,

for all those renting...

correct me if im wrong, if you drop and break the phone before the nexus comes out, then you cant return it (?) and so you will be stuck with the broken phone unless you have insurance and then you have to pay for a replacement and then try to return it?


just something to think about
i have been carrying my rental around in a microfiber bag made for sunglasses just to avoid any tiny scratch or ding. i wish i had the commitment to make sure the phones i actually keep stayed this pristine.
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Yes you did forget to do something. Watch Star Wars, starting with the oldest (episode IV).

I even offered to buy you dinner just to watch the first episode.
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