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Old October 8th, 2011, 01:12 PM   #4501 (permalink)
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So - I have a question -

How in the heck do you measure diagonal screen size on a curved surface?

(edit - that was the rhetorical question, no need to advise, the actual point and question follows)

If across the actual surface, then the apparent size in your hand may seem less, and the dead-on view will definitely be less.

So - if 4.65, it may not seem/feel that moosey - maybe?

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Man, I hope Samsung doesn't postpone any more events because of this.
No but I heard the Texans were really going to stick it to them tomorrow and they've decided to forfeit out of respect.

(J/k. SJ was a good man, Samsung and Google are honorable, etc.)
 
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So - I have a question -

How in the heck do you measure diagonal screen size on a curved surface?

If across the actual surface, then the apparent size in your hand may seem less, and the dead-on view will definitely be less.

So - if 4.65, it may not seem/feel that moosey - maybe.

??
you bend the ruler with the curve
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I believe ^this is correct.
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No but I heard the Texans were really going to stick it to them tomorrow and they've decided to forfeit out of respect.

(J/k. SJ was a good man, Samsung and Google are honorable, etc.)
Haha...agreed. All in good fun!
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OMG 100,000 VIEWS!

We rock, guys! We flat out rock! We're internet legends here!
I hate to say it but another prime forum has over 154,000 views. Not near as many posts though
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I hate to say it but another prime forum has over 154,000 views. Not near as many posts though
And not as many awesome people either....they are wannabes!!
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Old October 8th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #4508 (permalink)
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I was at my local VZN store earlier today. One of the sales rep's or maybe manager, I don't recall, freaked about what I told him has been rumored. Yes the part about there being no Verizon bloat on this device. He could not believe it and would not believe that VZN would agree to that. He said that their navigator, madden game, and others were too popular not to have on any smartphone they sold. Of course the sales people are the last to know, but I found this humorous. As he just bought the D3 recently I told him that he may very well be sorry and that this is the phone he should have waited for....
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LOL - ok thanks, but my actual point was in the statement and point came after the rhetorical question: If across the actual surface...

And my question followed that - how will it seem?

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LOL - ok thanks, but my actual point was in the statement and point came after the rhetorical question: If across the actual surface...

Based on the curve of the screen, I would assume that "corner to corner" (not measuring the curved surface) dimension would not be that much smaller. Maybe like 4.5" instead of 4.65".
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To whoever (whomever) made that render in the OP, damn you! Now, if the real Prime is any less sexy than that (and the one in the "leaked" video definitely is) I'm going to be disappointed. That thing is hot!
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Going back to some original concerns...
A lot of us were wondering how they were going to fit the LTE radio and 2050 mAH battery into the NP. Looking at Steven's post about the NP being a game changer we could be seeing one of two things...

1.) A second gen LTE radio to allow the NP and future devices be thinner and house bigger batteries. (I don't believe this to be the case)

2.) A more efficient battery or charging method such as solar charging. This feature is DEFINTELY a "game changer" and it would allow us to go much longer without plugging in and charging, and would eliminate a key complaint of android phones.

Or it could be something totally different but the second one sure seems like a possibilty since the technology is already out there and developed by Samsung.
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Many thanks to "Steven" for helping us keep hope alive but......has anyone ever seen "Steven"?. Remember "Surrogates" where the remote operator is running a robot device? Is Steven real? Or is this just coming from a surrogate operator in Samsung headquarters? Just kidding. Do I get suspended now?
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To whoever (whomever) made that render in the OP, damn you! Now, if the real Prime is any less sexy than that (and the one in the "leaked" video definitely is) I'm going to be disappointed. That thing is hot!
It's nice to finally see the little rectangles change and get some real panache (curved NS notwithstanding).

Here's another to ponder while we wait and wonder when our next tidbit is coming -

VERZO

Personally, I'm way digging that one.

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Based on the curve of the screen, I would assume that "corner to corner" (not measuring the curved surface) dimension would not be that much smaller. Maybe like 4.5" instead of 4.65".
OK, so couple that with the soft buttons reducing the bezel and this beastie may seem downright svelte!
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Do you guys think an exynos 4212 processor would give significantly better actual performance than the OMAP?

Fruit ninja is significantly choppier on my DX than on an iPhone/Pad or even the Galaxy S (on just stock GB, no CM7 or memory management tweaks). But other than that, the phone is still pretty speedy.
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uh oh

Official Specs of Samsung Galaxy Nexus (prototype unit) - xda-developers
 
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something big.

how about the largest screen on a cellphone to date. 4.65 inches

that was easy
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Nexus + Verizon?
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Many thanks to "Steven" for helping us keep hope alive but......has anyone ever seen "Steven"?. Remember "Surrogates" where the remote operator is running a robot device? Is Steven real? Or is this just coming from a surrogate operator in Samsung headquarters? Just kidding. Do I get suspended now?
Steven is very real. The epic Incredible thread's posting stats were 75% Steven, 25% everyone else.
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Question to all -- I've been monitoring this thread, and it's too much to see every post. I've checked the first page.

How certain is it at this point that we will see a Verizon launch for ICS Nexus Prime?
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Many thanks to "Steven" for helping us keep hope alive but......has anyone ever seen "Steven"?. Remember "Surrogates" where the remote operator is running a robot device? Is Steven real? Or is this just coming from a surrogate operator in Samsung headquarters? Just kidding. Do I get suspended now?
I know Steven is real, but your questions are incomplete, honestly - nothing personal.

You may wish to ask Is Steven a real person? Yes. Yes, Steven is warm and wonderful and nice all-around, well-developed personality.

However, if you wished to ask, Is Steven human? Umm. OK. See, here's the thing - we don't discuss our AI projects much, but we do know that your favorite mod here, Steven, has a Topic Distortion Field and that it's based on alien technologies.

But I can assure you with certainty that Steven is autonomous. Mostly.

Hope this helps!
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This goes against everything we've heard so far
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Question to all -- I've been monitoring this thread, and it's too much to see every post. I've checked the first page.

How certain is it at this point that we will see a Verizon launch for ICS Nexus Prime?
Baring unforeseen changes, Steven has noted with absolute confidence that it will release on November 3.

I believe him.
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Before people begin freaking out I hope they realize this is not final hardware and is no indication of final specs. This isn't really newsworty except for the fact that a prototype has been caught in the wild.
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Note the items are numbered without spaces leading to lots of confusion over there.

Example: people are objecting to the 4.5MP camera, when it was supposed to read like:

4: A 5 MP camera...

Don't know which part is the uh oh, but hope this helps.
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No chance any of that is true.
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I believe him.
I believe him as well but release dates are always a slippery slope. They can change daily and hourly.
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Before people begin freaking out I hope they realize this is not final hardware and is no indication of final specs. This isn't really newsworty except for the fact that a prototype has been caught in the wild.

Who:s to say the protype is "no indication" of the final unit. That's exactly what a prototype is supposed to be. But yeah I wouldn't read too much into these specs, doubt they're the final
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How in the heck do you measure diagonal screen size on a curved surface?
Without using calculus, we could get a reasonably close value using an opisometer.

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No chance any of that is true.
Including that the screen is 1280x720/4.65"?

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I prefer Calculus, but I'll take Metrology for 200, Alex!

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1] I can solidly confirm the November third date.

2] I can solidly confirm this phone to be a game changer.

3] I am being advised to tell you guys to hang in there because you will be very happy.

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First of all, that is definitively not game changing!

Secondly, if it is real it was a prototype.

Thirdly, just add that to the list of 100 other configurations we have seen.

I'm going to believe Stephen when he says we will be happy1
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never even heard of it. but if you want to be all technical, is that even the biggest? probably not but hey, you knew what i meant :-p
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...and a wife.
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First of all, that is definitively not game changing
How is a 1.2Ghz duel core not game changing while a 1.5Ghz would be? If anyone realistically thinks you will see this next gen Exynos (WHICH ISN'T EVEN IN PRODUCTION YET) then your going to be disappointed.
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Very interested to see what we'll see on Tuesday. Either this or the Galaxy S3 will be my next phone

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Don't know which part is the uh oh, but hope this helps.
No metal and 16 GB with no expansion are uh oh.

But yeah, "prototype" is the key word. Don't think it's final by any means.
 
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Very interested to see what we'll see on Tuesday. Either this or the Galaxy S3 will be my next phone

yeah but we'll see nothing on tuesday... the Nexus Prime UNpacked-Event has postponed...
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Something big is coming? What would be big? Remember the teaser video?

There were two items shown to make each other better when combined. So what combinations would be BIG?

*Samsung + 4G? - Already been done.

*Samsung + new OS version? - Already been done with GB when they released the Nexus S. Sure, ICS is new but there will be a new OS every year. As much as I think ICS will be a big improvement... I don't think it is the BIG thing here?

*Nexus Device with ICS + 4G? Sure I guess, but is this a given for this device.

*True HD screen + 4G? This is a possibility but again...not BIG.

So what do I think??? This combination is something that would change the way we use our phones. What is the biggest complaint about Android smartphones? Battery life!

*ICS + New battery technology? Ooohhhh wouldn't that be big? Imagine if there was a solar screen that trickled power back into the battery or just minimized the drain the screen caused. 1000 mAh battery that could run for days...Epic!

I just think there is going to be something more than what we already "know" or have speculated about.

Just my 2 cents

My guess on this is: ICS + VZW 4G LTE

Edit: But that doesn't apply to other carriers, so never mind...I suck at speculating.
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How is a 1.2Ghz duel core not game changing while a 1.5Ghz would be? If anyone realistically thinks you will see this next gen Exynos (WHICH ISN'T EVEN IN PRODUCTION YET) then your going to be disappointed.
Well, I was referring to all the specs....not the 1.2. I don't think I actually said that the processor in my post. When I think of game changer I think of something that isn't already available


Specificallly, the plastic and the 16 internal storage....very underwhelming.
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How is a 1.2Ghz duel core not game changing while a 1.5Ghz would be? If anyone realistically thinks you will see this next gen Exynos (WHICH ISN'T EVEN IN PRODUCTION YET) then your going to be disappointed.
1.5 GHz processor of any kind isn't really game changing. It's just a progression of current technology.
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No chance any of that is true.
I find all of it credible, w/the single exception of 16GB w/o any microSD. If it didn't have a microSD slot, I'm pretty sure it'd need 32GB internal to be a credible bragging-rights phone.

The 5MP camera? Yes, I could believe that IF it's advertised as having superb lens/sensor and excellent low-light capabilities.
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p3Droid is saying that it's got a newer radio and LTE chip
I just don't see how it can be so "thin" without this. ^^^ But I know it's been said next gen LTE chips are not in production yet.
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p3Droid is saying that it's got a newer radio and LTE chip
Ohhhhhhhhh, I would like that very very much.
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The Sammy phones in my personal experience have always done a top-notch job in taking pictures.

For two sensors of the same size, one 5MP and the other 8, the 5 will have less noise and tend to produce clearer images, all other factors being equal.

That said, I think that judging any camera ahead of time based just on the MP spec is a lot like judging a car just based on transmission gear ratios alone.

And for what it's worth - a single frame of a 1080p HDTV is about 2 MP -- so - how many MPs are _really_ needed?
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I just don't see how it can be so "thin" without this. ^^^ But I know it's been said next gen LTE chips are not in production yet.
curious about that as well because i've read the same thing.
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I could very well see Google doing the 16GB internal storage. If they are going to push Google Music and Movies services then they will make the argument you probably don't need anything more then 16GB.
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The Sammy phones in my personal experience have always done a top-notch job in taking pictures.

For two sensors of the same size, one 5MP and the other 8, the 5 will have less noise and tend to produce clearer images, all other factors being equal.

That said, I think that judging any camera ahead of time based just on the MP spec is a lot like judging a car just based on transmission gear ratios alone.

And for what it's worth - a single frame of a 1080p HDTV is about 2 MP -- so - how many MPs are _really_ needed?
Agreed. My Fascinate and Tbolt had pretty comparable cameras and there was a 3 MP difference between them.
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