I find all of it credible, w/the single exception of 16GB w/o any microSD. If it didn't have a microSD slot, I'm pretty sure it'd need 32GB internal to be a credible bragging-rights phone.
The 5MP camera? Yes, I could believe that IF it's advertised as having superb lens/sensor and excellent low-light capabilities.
Sorry I misspoke. No chance SOME of those specs are true, not all. My mistake!
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Does anyone think that the curve is going to make it weaker and more fragile/susceptible to breakage? Especially the glass?
And am I correct in calculating more than one thousand posts a day on this forum in the last two days? Yee ha.
I know I don't post much but I read alot....That being said, curving can actually increase strength, as an arch is one of the strongest shapes there are. Additionally curves and wrinkles within metal also increase the strength in that area, which is why the metal on cars have so many ridges and bends. Maybe the shell of the phone will be made out of carbon fiber or Carbon nanotubes. Maybe kryptonite, Just my .02 cents.
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, as I am not an engineer.
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Does anyone think that the curve is going to make it weaker and more fragile/susceptible to breakage? Especially the glass?
And am I correct in calculating more than one thousand posts a day on this forum in the last two days? Yee ha.
Curved is actually stronger then flat surfaces. I registered just to say that
That's how an egg is so thin, but strong. I had fun many years ago in high school technology class. Egg drop project: where you had to build an enclosure around an egg, and design it to distribute the force of the drop evenly around the egg so it doesn't break from the drop. Then there was the pop-sickle stick bridge project. If you made a flat bridge, it wouldn't hold much weight
There are people who will test the final hardware and if we are lucky we will get a glimpse of it. But don't count on it anymore. The testers that leak stuff are not getting final hardware anymore. This is according to those that are close to different projects.
Again, not possible. If you don't have real people testing final hardware, then the hardware isn't being sufficiently tested. For devices intended to be sold in the millions, it would be insane to release something with a non-trivial chance of recall. My WAG is that they'd have dozens testing for months before a phone's release.
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I know I don't post much but I read alot....That being said, curving can actually increase strength, as an arch is one of the strongest shapes there are. Additionally curves and wrinkles within metal also increase the strength in that area, which is why the metal on cars have so many ridges and bends.
That sounds right, I wouldn't expect any extra fragility unless the manufacturer really screws up.
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Maybe the shell of the phone will be made out of carbon fiber or Carbon nanotubes. Maybe kryptonite, Just my .02 cents.
Oh, is titanium no longer the fashionable magic strength material?
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Sorry. I don't see this phone getting a fixed 16gb storage. If you're planning on going after the iphone (which offers you different space options) this just seems illogical.
As much as "cloud" computing is this new craze. It really isn't. I don't want to use cloud storage for my music or files. I'm not going to stream or have to redownload things I need or want to view/look at over and over and over again.
As many have said a game changer can be something so sudden. In football if its 7-7 and a team is driving on their opponents 3 and throws an interception for a pick 6 with 50 seconds left. Thats a game changer.
Big screen in a 4.3 form factor = game changer.
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I stated earlier in this thread that I believe the prefect combination that is being hinted at and the something Big, is the marriage between Samsung's biggest/most popular phone and Google's....
We get the best of the Galaxy (thin, screen, processor, camera) and marry that to the best of the Nexus (pure android experience, timely updates, curved screen, beautiful form factor).....after you have thatmarriage, you go bigger...ICS, dual core 1.5ghz Exynos, 4.65" screen....LTE 2nd gen to keep it thin ala galaxy....nfc...etc....
What's BIGGER than that??? Is that not the prefect combination considering the players Samsung and Google???
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Sorry. I don't see this phone getting a fixed 16gb storage. If you're planning on going after the iphone (which offers you different space options) this just seems illogical.
As much as "cloud" computing is this new craze. It really isn't. I don't want to use cloud storage for my music or files. I'm not going to stream or have to redownload things I need or want to view/look at over and over and over again.
Although, I do agree that the Prime should have expandable storage to compete (16GB won't cut it if you want to be competitive), cloud storage could be very useful depending on how it is implemented. For example, when I work remotely, I work off of my company's cloud server. I don't have to stream anything or re-download anything. Everything is there and available instantly as if I was at my desk at work using my PC. If the Prime used cloud storage in this fashion...THAT would be a game changer IMO.
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I stated earlier in this thread that I believe the prefect combination that is being hinted at and the something Big, is the marriage between Samsung's biggest/most popular phone and Google's....
We get the best of the Galaxy (thin, screen, processor, camera) and marry that to the best of the Nexus (pure android experience, timely updates, curved screen, beautiful form factor).....after you have thatmarriage, you go bigger...ICS, dual core 1.5ghz Exynos, 4.65" screen....LTE 2nd gen to keep it thin ala galaxy....nfc...etc....
What's BIGGER than that??? Is that not the prefect combination considering the players Samsung and Google???
That makes perfect sense to me and would make me a very happy camper!
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I stated earlier in this thread that I believe the prefect combination that is being hinted at and the something Big, is the marriage between Samsung's biggest/most popular phone and Google's....
We get the best of the Galaxy (thin, screen, processor, camera) and marry that to the best of the Nexus (pure android experience, timely updates, curved screen, beautiful form factor).....after you have thatmarriage, you go bigger...ICS, dual core 1.5ghz Exynos, 4.65" screen....LTE 2nd gen to keep it thin ala galaxy....nfc...etc....
What's BIGGER than that??? Is that not the prefect combination considering the players Samsung and Google???
Gamechanger=kickstand. Revolutionized the smartphone world (sarcasm)
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Although, I do agree that the Prime should have expandable storage to compete (16GB won't cut it if you want to be competitive), cloud storage could be very useful depending on how it is implemented. For example, when I work remotely, I work off of my company's cloud server. I don't have to stream anything or re-download anything. Everything is there and available instantly as if I was at my desk at work using my PC. If the Prime used cloud storage in this fashion...THAT would be a game changer IMO.
Hard to believe, but I have family living in the middle of nowhere. There is no "cloud" there. No LTE. No cell phone connectivity. I do NOT want my stuff stored in some inaccessible "cloud". Give me 16GB of storage AND a microSD slot. Then we can talk "cloud".
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So... what use would they have for a cell phone, with or w/o microSD?
Point being, Biker, that I don't want all my music and movies locked away in a "cloud" I can't get to. I want it onboard my phone when I'm out in the wilderness (with in-laws ). 16GB doesn't get it for me. Neither does a cloud.
Cloud has its place, I won't dispute that. But until it's EVERYWHERE, I want sufficient space on my phone for movies, music and all the HD video and photos I'm presumably going to be taking with this beast.
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Again, not possible. If you don't have real people testing final hardware, then the hardware isn't being sufficiently tested. For devices intended to be sold in the millions, it would be insane to release something with a non-trivial chance of recall. My WAG is that they'd have dozens testing for months before a phone's release.
I must agree with this. There's no way that they're going to leave the finished product untested.
Having said that, they could easily use a "dummy" form factor and still test the relevant parts inside. I mean, if you were to put all that hardware inside the case of an SGSII, for example, you'd be able to test it. That way, if a video leaks, people really aren't seeing the actual finished phone because the shell is different.
But that really doesn't explain the huge deviations in specs we're getting. I think that the answer to that is simply that there are a lot of glory-hounds making crap up and leaking it to websites just for a thrill.
VZ_Wired, could you just do this ONE LITTLE THING and tell us what the processor is???? That's it, we won't ask for anything more!!
Edit: if you can't do that, can you at least tell us WHICH website the fired corporate employee leaked to???
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I stated earlier in this thread that I believe the prefect combination that is being hinted at and the something Big, is the marriage between Samsung's biggest/most popular phone and Google's....
We get the best of the Galaxy (thin, screen, processor, camera) and marry that to the best of the Nexus (pure android experience, timely updates, curved screen, beautiful form factor).....after you have thatmarriage, you go bigger...ICS, dual core 1.5ghz Exynos, 4.65" screen....LTE 2nd gen to keep it thin ala galaxy....nfc...etc....
What's BIGGER than that??? Is that not the prefect combination considering the players Samsung and Google???
This sounds very logical.
+1 on it hopefully having a micro sd slot.
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So... what use would they have for a cell phone, with or w/o microSD?
Yah...oh wait....the iPhone has never had and never will have a microSD card and they have sold millions and millions to people who...well you get my point?
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+1 on it hopefully having micro sd slot.
Oh BTW: The Bionic apparently can handle the new 64GB microSDXC cards
So sporting that puppy, with 16GB in the phone, would give us 80 friggin' gigabytes of onboard memory to take all those 1080p videos we'll be shooting. Plenty of elbow room there, IMHO. And the "cloud" would just be icing on the cake, especially to back it all up.
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Yah...oh wait....the iPhone has never had and never will have a microSD card and they have sold millions and millions to people who...well you get my point?
Yeah but you missed mine. Chief said his family had "No cell phone connectivity" so I'm thinking maybe they just need an iPod. Okay not funny.
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Oh BTW: The Bionic apparently can handle the new 64GB microSDXC cards
So sporting that puppy, with 16GB in the phone, would give us 80 friggin' gigabytes of onboard memory to take all those 1080p videos we'll be shooting. Plenty of elbow room there, IMHO. And the "cloud" would just be icing on the cake, especially to back it all up.
More power to you if you can afford a class 6+ 64gb micro sd card. I can tell you class 2 or 4 ain't gonna cut it for recording 1080p. The nice thing about built in storage is the ability to control the quality for the purpose of fast enough write times to support HD recording or quick camera shots. If there's no support for micro SD, I'm fine with it as long as it's 32gb internal. If it's 16gb, it needs external memory support.
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I know. I was hoping that since he posted on my profile, maybe I was one of his favorite little pet weasels. Guess not.
Well I'm leaning towards Exynos 4212, and GSM Arena.
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Well if it does only come with 16gb and no SD card expansion, I am certainly glad I have my unlimited plan with Verizon. I can just cloud everything and stream. And fortunately I don't have in-laws period, much less ones that live in the nether regions.....
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I know I don't post much but I read alot....That being said, curving can actually increase strength, as an arch is one of the strongest shapes there are. Additionally curves and wrinkles within metal also increase the strength in that area, which is why the metal on cars have so many ridges and bends. Maybe the shell of the phone will be made out of carbon fiber or Carbon nanotubes. Maybe kryptonite, Just my .02 cents.
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, as I am not an engineer.
I would agree with this (and I am a mechanical engineer). A flat sheet of glass and a piece twisted in any direction (so long as they have the same cross-sectional area at all points) will have the same strength. With the rumored metal chassis I don't think anyone should worry about the strength of this beast.
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Guys, our source says that "You've got a dedicated bunch of guys here. That's great!
I just read Han's plead for more info on the processor or on which website a real leak went to.
Can you tell the gang that I can't reveal that, but that I can confirm that there will definitely be certain components in this phone that haven't been seen in any other phone in the US so far? And I'm not talking about the screen.
Believe me, I would tell you guys everything if I could. I just can't. There's more than just my job at stake, honestly. But I also want to keep the optimism going."
Now, I'm not going to tell you who said this, but you guys need to believe it and receive it. (My being an ordained minister came out there for a second )
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Guys, our source says that "You've got a dedicated bunch of guys here. That's great!
I just read Han's plead for more info on the processor or on which website a real leak went to.
Can you tell the gang that I can't reveal that, but that I can confirm that there will definitely be certain components in this phone that haven't been seen in any other phone in the US so far? And I'm not talking about the screen.
Believe me, I would tell you guys everything if I could. I just can't. There's more than just my job at stake, honestly. But I also want to keep the optimism going."
Now, I'm not going to tell you who said this, but you guys need to believe it and receive it. (My being an ordained minister came out there for a second )
Can you ask if we have to wait MUCH longer for an announcement????!?!? Its killing me inside! Surely he can wink or nod or something...
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Guys, our source says that "You've got a dedicated bunch of guys here. That's great!
I just read Han's plead for more info on the processor or on which website a real leak went to.
Can you tell the gang that I can't reveal that, but that I can confirm that there will definitely be certain components in this phone that haven't been seen in any other phone in the US so far? And I'm not talking about the screen.
Believe me, I would tell you guys everything if I could. I just can't. There's more than just my job at stake, honestly. But I also want to keep the optimism going."
Now, I'm not going to tell you who said this, but you guys need to believe it and receive it. (My being an ordained minister came out there for a second )
Certain components not seen in the US so far????!
LET THE SPECULATIONS BEGIN!!!
that post just got me really excited. Thanks to the source and Steven!!
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Guys, our source says that "You've got a dedicated bunch of guys here. That's great!
I just read Han's plead for more info on the processor or on which website a real leak went to.
Can you tell the gang that I can't reveal that, but that I can confirm that there will definitely be certain components in this phone that haven't been seen in any other phone in the US so far? And I'm not talking about the screen.
Believe me, I would tell you guys everything if I could. I just can't. There's more than just my job at stake, honestly. But I also want to keep the optimism going."
Now, I'm not going to tell you who said this, but you guys need to believe it and receive it. (My being an ordained minister came out there for a second )
He mentioned me! I feel so tingly, all over my body. . . .hmmm. . . yes, that feels so tingly and good!
Seriously, Steven, thanks for the update!
Now, what components can he be referring to??
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That, at first, kind of pissed me off because even the 1.2 GHz OMAP 4460 hasn't been seen in the US so far, and that's the lowest spec acceptable to us, right?
But then he mentioned "IN THE US". . .so does that mean that whatever IS in the Prime is in a phone somewhere else in the world??
Like in Korea, in the SGSII HD LTE???
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Guys, our source says that "You've got a dedicated bunch of guys here. That's great!
I just read Han's plead for more info on the processor or on which website a real leak went to.
Can you tell the gang that I can't reveal that, but that I can confirm that there will definitely be certain components in this phone that haven't been seen in any other phone in the US so far? And I'm not talking about the screen.
Believe me, I would tell you guys everything if I could. I just can't. There's more than just my job at stake, honestly. But I also want to keep the optimism going."
Now, I'm not going to tell you who said this, but you guys need to believe it and receive it. (My being an ordained minister came out there for a second )
So are you saying that this will be the first swiss army knife phone?
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