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Old November 23rd, 2011, 09:41 PM   #46851 (permalink)
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 09:41 PM   #46852 (permalink)
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OK so whoever came up with TP needs a slap upside the head too. Every time I see that I wonder why everyone needs toilet paper so bad!
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You have to make a decision at some point, a rumor is just as good as any other reason.

For me the cut off is probably the end of the year, when the after Christmas sales hit. If its not out I'm going to follow Hans olo's suggestion, get a TP and start checking out the next round of phones in the may-july time frame.

My Dinc. is still more then usable, I just want a NEW toy dammit!
Yeah, but the end of the year is way more reasonable. Verizon said later this year. That's not a rumor.
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I'm just going to wait it out. I need to learn to be more patient, so this will be good practice.
I'm all out of virtues, and patience was the first to go. Thanks mom.
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OK so whoever came up with TP needs a slap upside through head too. Every time I see that I wonder why everyone needs toilet paper so bad!
Oh that one was totally Hans...

Although, its such a natural evolution that it was going to come about any way...

Just don't think of Beavis and Butthead, you'll be fine... :P
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Welp, the ReZound got S-off. That got rid of my last hesitation to pick the phone up, so I'll probably grab one when I get back to town on Monday and give it a trial run. Who knows, I may end up keeping it now that it can be rooted and ROMed fully.
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agreed. I dont really use a whole lot of data, but its nice to know its there. If tmobile was any good, i would have switched already. I also really want/need the 32gb model too
My problem is that the VZW tower I talk to at work is between the office and a large commuter university. It is terribly oversubscribed in the daytime during the school year, to the point that I get maybe 150kb down most days. Not nearly enough bandwidth to stream music.

I'm fleeing to 4g to keep my sanity at work.
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I love how people base their personal cut-off dates on rumors. If that's how we do it, then when the world doesn't end in 2012, how many people will leave for Mercury? It may not be as nice there, but at least you'll know you'll be dead.
Agreed, but honestly Verizon is my Pimp... I cant afford to buy off contract, and I cant get out of my contract. After using my OG and going to a Thunderbolt and going back to the OG because it could actually be on AOSP w/o data issues, I am dead set on Vanilla android because its just better and the Nexus is supported. So if they released it on 12/25, id still have to buy it. Even though its not as 'powerful' as the devices coming at CES, it will be getting upgrades long after those new devices are 'defunct'.
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Oh that one was totally Hans...

Although, its such a natural evolution that it was going to come about any way...

Just don't think of Beavis and Butthead, you'll be fine... :P
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OK so whoever came up with TP needs a slap upside through head too. Every time I see that I wonder why everyone needs toilet paper so bad!
lol @ toilet paper. Whenever I see TP I can't help but to think TouchPad. If you were part of the slickdeals TouchPad liquidation thread you would think the same. That may have been the most epic thread in the history of the world wide webz.
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Agreed, but honestly Verizon is my Pimp... I cant afford to buy off contract, and I cant get out of my contract. After using my OG and going to a Thunderbolt and going back to the OG because it could actually be on AOSP w/o data issues, I am dead set on Vanilla android because its just better and the Nexus is supported. So if they released it on 12/25, id still have to buy it. Even though its not as 'powerful' as the devices coming at CES, it will be getting upgrades long after those new devices are 'defunct'.
Just because something is announced at CES also doesn't mean it coming anytime soon. cough-Bionic-cough.
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Welp, the ReZound got S-off. That got rid of my last hesitation to pick the phone up, so I'll probably grab one when I get back to town on Monday and give it a trial run. Who knows, I may end up keeping it now that it can be rooted and ROMed fully.
Please save yourself and dont.... SVDO is a PITA for developers. That dang Qualcomm dual radio trick. The Thunderbolt is not and will not be fully supported on CM7 because of it, and AOSP has data dropout issues. It was horrible on my phone.
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Welp, the ReZound got S-off. That got rid of my last hesitation to pick the phone up, so I'll probably grab one when I get back to town on Monday and give it a trial run. Who knows, I may end up keeping it now that it can be rooted and ROMed fully.
I still haven't gone to look at the Rezound, mainly because I don't want the temptation. I could totally see myself getting and keeping one.

I was and really still am a Sense person. It used to chuckle at people with Dinc's that would put Sense down as horrible, load up a "vanilla" ROM, then spend a week loading 3rd party apps(launchers/widget/etc) to get back the functionality that Sense had built in...
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Just because something is announced at CES also doesn't mean it coming anytime soon. cough-Bionic-cough.
I was GOING to buy a Bionic... now i make fun of it lol... I remember those days, boy its weird to think it was almost a year ago
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I still haven't gone to look at the Rezound, mainly because I don't want the temptation. I could totally see myself getting and keeping one.

I was and really still am a Sense person. It used to chuckle at people with Dinc's that would put Sense down as horrible, load up a "vanilla" ROM, then spend a week loading 3rd party apps(launchers/widget/etc) to get back the functionality that Sense had built in...

I did that the first time I ran cm7.
Then went to a semi stripped down sense rom.
When I decided the Nexus was going to be mine I went back to cm7 and have nothing sense like loaded. And I LOVE it this time. I think knowing I'm going to a vanilla phone helped in the transition

Now I just need my Nexus
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Just checking in... skimmed over today's posts. Can anyone bring me up to speed? It seems like the only new thing is P3Droids tweet of a possible word on the release date...anything else?
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Please save yourself and dont.... SVDO is a PITA for developers. That dang Qualcomm dual radio trick. The Thunderbolt is not and will not be fully supported on CM7 because of it, and AOSP has data dropout issues. It was horrible on my phone.
I don't think the Rezound has the SVDO chip, I could be wrong, but I think HTC ditched it after the TBolt for the exact reason you listed, that RIL issue has pissed my friend off to no end. I will have to check around, but you're right if it does indeed share that flaw (it is a flaw, I don't care how bad you want to talk and surf) I definitely won't be getting it, I love AOSP.
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Just checking in. Skimmed over the today's posts. Can anyone bring me up to speed? It seems like the only fairly new thing is P3Droids tweet if a possible word on the release date...anything else?

SSDD. You are now up to speed.



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I still haven't gone to look at the Rezound, mainly because I don't want the temptation. I could totally see myself getting and keeping one.

I was and really still am a Sense person. It used to chuckle at people with Dinc's that would put Sense down as horrible, load up a "vanilla" ROM, then spend a week loading 3rd party apps(launchers/widget/etc) to get back the functionality that Sense had built in...
Do yourself a favor and load up MIUI. Not a sarcastic reply, I really think you should. It FLIES compared to Sense on the Inc, and brings a lot of functionality to the table.
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Does anyone else think that at this point Verizon could very well do an insta-release, as in announce it Dec. 8th and release Dec. 9th? If so, it'll be a tough 2 weeks until we hear any official news
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Does anyone else think that at this point Verizon could very well do an insta-release, as in announce it Dec. 8th and release Dec. 9th? If so, it'll be a tough 2 weeks until we hear any official news

That is a possibility. Hopefuly not though, or it is going to be a cranky bunch of nexaholics around here
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I did that the first time I ran cm7.
Then went to a semi stripped down sense rom.
When I decided the Nexus was going to be mine I went back to cm7 and have nothing sense like loaded. And I LOVE it this time. I think knowing I'm going to a vanilla phone helped in the transition

Now I just need my Nexus
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Yeah plus "vanilla" has improved a LOT, 2.2/2.3+ Vanilla is decent. When you get back into 2.0 and before "vanilla" was down right BAD, people that say otherwise need to check their glasses for "rose" coloring.
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I don't think the Rezound has the SVDO chip, I could be wrong, but I think HTC ditched it after the TBolt for the exact reason you listed, that RIL issue has pissed my friend off to no end. I will have to check around, but you're right if it does indeed share that flaw (it is a flaw, I don't care how bad you want to talk and surf) I definitely won't be getting it, I love AOSP.
Yeah it has the exact same chip and it only allows talk and surf on 3G.. all 4G phones can do it over LTE

Its actually qualcomm technology. I believe its 1X Advanced or something like that.
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So the incredible thread was open for 81 days and it racked up 47,904 posts during that time.

This thread has been open for 92 days and it's still well over a thousands posts to go until it matches the original DInc thread.

It's safe to say that nothing will beat the DInc thread......not even this one. This thread had to hit 47,905 on Nov. 12th in order to beat it on an evenly timed level. It's the pushed release date that kinda killed the race here.

Nice try, though!
Eh.. not necessarily.. this thread took about a month and half or two months to start growing. That one took off as soon as it started. We have to compare apples to apples. If you look at the stats and charts, you'll see that once this thread really took off, it was as epic as the Dinc thread. There are charts somewhere in the thread.
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Yeah it has the exact same chip and it only allows talk and surf on 3G.. all 4G phones can do it over LTE
Welp forget that then lol. Nexus it is.
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This thread has been open for 92 days and it's still well over a thousands posts to go until it matches the original DInc thread.

It's safe to say that nothing will beat the DInc thread......not even this one. This thread had to hit 47,905 on Nov. 12th in order to beat it on an evenly timed level. It's the pushed release date that kinda killed the race here.

Nice try, though!
Thanks that's exactly what I was wondering about, and even though this thread may not technically beat the Inc one it still has been and is a pretty amazing thread.
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lol and I thought you meant to say SSD (solid state drive)! which could be an answer as well
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Do yourself a favor and load up MIUI. Not a sarcastic reply, I really think you should. It FLIES compared to Sense on the Inc, and brings a lot of functionality to the table.
I can second this. The Dinc2 got a ton smoother has better battery life once I slapped MIUI on it.
 
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www.rootzwiki.com/topic/10236-s-off-acomplished/

Supposed to release it for use soon. Probably going through final testing to make sure it isn't going to brick devices.
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They'll release it. They have warehouses full of them and they can't just send them back to Samsung. Also, they're getting bombarded with GNex inquiries, and if they weren't going to release it, they'd just tell us so to shut everyone up.
I have become skeptical of Verizon having warehouses full of them already. Surfing around elsewhere, I have found indications of persons testing engineering models of the LTE version and getting a new engineering version this month. Admittedly, the information is limited enough to support multiple interpretations, but there is enough to support the notion that there have been some recent hardware changes.

I think VZW is sophisticated enough to be cautious about filling the warehouses too early. I also can understand why VZW would be reticent to trumpet the problems too loudly.

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Very EXCELLENT post!!!! Let me ask a question, though: If all you say is true and correct (and I am not doubting it because it DOES make sense), is it then fair to say that it was really GOOGLE and SAMSUNG who "screwed the pooch" on this launch by announcing it, unveiling it, and TELLING THE WORLD about it back in October in Hong Kong if it was really, truly, a solid 1.5 to 2 MONTHS from being "ready for prime time"??

If that Hong Kong event doesnt happen, then we have a LOT less anger, angst, and bad mojo towards VZW in this thread, don't you think?
Yes. The problem, however, is the HSPA and LTE versions seem to have been on separate development tracks. This has been mentioned in the mean time by nj02vette here. If you go ahead with the announcement when the LTE version is not ready, LTE carriers get unhappy. If you delay the announcement for further work on the LTE version, HSPA carriers wanting to go ahead and roll out their version get unhappy. Someone is unhappy either way. Of course, delaying announcement of the phone also delays Google's announcement of Ice Cream Sandwich, because they need to show it on something.

Thinking about the unhappiness, was there not discussion in this thread shortly after the Hong Kong event that there was a lot of frustration inside VZW about the announcement or some related aspect of the situation? If I am recalling this correctly, this could be why.

Look, I am no Verizon apologist. I have been dealing with them for a long, long time in multiple contexts, and I have a sense of how they work. And it is there history that makes many of the conspiracy ideas so believable. However, I have begun to think that VZW is, at least in part, grappling with some underlying technical issues of a non-trivial variety.
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Do yourself a favor and load up MIUI. Not a sarcastic reply, I really think you should. It FLIES compared to Sense on the Inc, and brings a lot of functionality to the table.
I've tried it, too much like the fruit OS for me(totally a personal thing). To be honest I never had speed or lag problems on my Dinc. with Sense.

Unless I was playing around sense 3.0 or 3.5... Which were neat to play with but to be honest the phone just doesn't have the hardware to run. I expect the same thing when someone ports ICS to it. the new OS's just take too much juice.

I've had just about everything on my phone at one point CM6, CM7, MIUI, sense 3.0, 3.5... I spent probably 3-4 days playing with CM7 to realize I was trying to get the functionality I liked in Sense back.

That's the nice thing about Android its customizable , For me Sense provided the right amount of easy to use out of the box, but still allow me to tweak what I want...
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Srsly tho, if you care about the Nexus and free memory, see posts on previous page.
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I've tried it, too much like the fruit OS for me(totally a personal thing). To be honest I never had speed or lag problems on my Dinc. with Sense.

Unless I was playing around sense 3.0 or 3.5... Which were neat to play with but to be honest the phone just doesn't have the hardware to run. I expect the same thing when someone ports ICS to it. the new OS's just take too much juice.

I've had just about everything on my phone at one point CM6, CM7, MIUI, sense 3.0, 3.5... I spent probably 3-4 days playing with CM7 to realize I was trying to get the functionality I liked in Sense back.

That's the nice thing about Android its customizable , For me Sense provided the right amount of easy to use out of the box, but still allow me to tweak what I want...
That's understandable, and you're exactly right, to each their own should be the Android official motto.

Coming from the Eris, I just finally got bored with Sense, and MIUI offers such a huge level of customization that I never could get bored on it and it was much more polished than the CM variants I tried.
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Welp, the ReZound got S-off. That got rid of my last hesitation to pick the phone up, so I'll probably grab one when I get back to town on Monday and give it a trial run. Who knows, I may end up keeping it now that it can be rooted and ROMed fully.
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I love how people base their personal cut-off dates on rumors. If that's how we do it, then when the world doesn't end in 2012, how many people will leave for Mercury? It may not be as nice there, but at least you'll know you'll be dead.

Based on rumors because Verizon can't seem to give us anything concrete. But thanks anyway
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Eh.. not necessarily.. this thread took about a month and half or two months to start growing. That one took off as soon as it started. We have to compare apples to apples. If you look at the stats and charts, you'll see that once this thread really took off, it was as epic as the Dinc thread. There are charts somewhere in the thread.
The incredible thread was really part 2 (or was it 3) starting from the vze HTC passion rumors.
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Look at it this way. My LTE speeds on my Razr are faster than my home Internet speeds. (Fastest Fios Internet package)
You are really getting that fast of speed? I don't see how that's possible. I'm on the third highest tier and I get 42 megs down. There is also 50 Meg and 100 Meg available. What speeds are you getting on LTE?
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MIUI always was laggy as heck on my OG Droid. Every build, froyo and gingerbread. Always with the lag. Every other ROM i've ran has been fine.
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MIUI always was laggy as heck on my OG Droid. Every build, froyo and gingerbread. Always with the lag. Every other ROM i've ran has been fine.
Pretty weird. It definitely wasn't on the Inc, could have been a poor porting team (though I doubt it) or it was just too intensive for the RAM on the OG.
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By the way, least I be accused of being too soft on VZW , I will share a bit of humor heard elsewhere long ago about its parent, Verizon. Back when Bell Atlantic and GTE merged, the companies announced that the merged entity would take the name Verizon, a portmanteau of the Latin word veritas, meaning "truth," with "horizon." This led to an observation that the new name fit quite well:
for them, truth was always on the horizon!
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Hmm, my memory could be faulty but I swear that I read that putting an ATT sim into the Euro spec Nexus would not give you access to HSPA+ here. You would have a 3g only Nexus.

Please correct me if I'm wrong as I don't want to be a purveyor of misiformation.

I believe you will get hspa + if you use an att simcard due to gn being an pentaband phone yes no?
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You are really getting that fast of speed? I don't see how that's possible. I'm on the third highest tier and I get 42 megs down. There is also 50 Meg and 100 Meg available. What speeds are you getting on LTE?

A lot of people have been posting scores (consistently) in the 30-50 range, depending on the area obliviously.


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Opinions are always welcome here.

I had hoped the release would have gone more smoothly, too. Not going to lie and say I'm not disappointed, just that I can see all sorts of factors, some mentioned, and other not mentioned, that can affect the situation.

But I will leave you with one bit of info.
The GSM models were manufactured first. LTE models hadn't been finalized at the Hong Kong announcement, since they didn't give a finished thickness for the LTE model. That tells me, LTE models were going to come after GSM models, unless the GSM models are going to be held up as well (no point in that).

So by that logic, I wasn't expecting to see LTE models released the same time as GSM models. I knew they'd be delayed, just not sure by how much.
That's not info, it is your guess. I was told last Wednesday that the release was end of November but Samsung and Google ready and it should have been out with the GSM release. NDAs got in the way of being to specific but there was a "software" problem holding the Verizon version back though like I said, Samsung and Google were ready.

My guess is that the reason the GSM version came out on the 17th and not earlier was because of Google/Samsung.
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Pretty weird. It definitely wasn't on the Inc, could have been a poor porting team (though I doubt it) or it was just too intensive for the RAM on the OG.
I'm not sure. Some people say they are awesome, but either I'm too picky about my home screen transitions or it just runs crappy on my Droid.
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Unfortunately, there been WAY too many rumors, flying around and nobody is going to come out with the truth. Either because they screwed up or they don't want to hurt their business relationship by calling the other out (even if its true).

The people that REALLY know are probably few enough in number that their not going to talk.

Personally, I'm of the opinion of wanting to blame VZW, I think their playing corporate games. BUT I have absolutely no evidence to back that up.

they are no facts at all, to really support one view or another :P
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