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Old September 5th, 2011, 04:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Droid Prime, Droid Nexus Prime or Nexus Prime?

With all the rumor and speculation of the handset being called the Droid Prime have to say if they go this route I hope they at least acknowledge the Nexus designation in the name i.e call it the Droid Nexus Prime. I personally hope they forego the Droid Monikor and just stick with it being the Nexus Prime.

The idea of the Nexus is one unified handset across ALL carriers. No seperate names or seperate features for the different carriers. When one buys the Nexus Prime, whether they be on Verizon, Sprint or AT&T it's all the same phone. Just like Apple does it with the iPhone.

Google is in a position to do exactly what Apple is doing. They, meaning Google, can build the Nexus brand if they play their cards right. So far they have failed but hopefully starting with the Prime that will change.

I for one am tired of the constant influx of new hardware only to be outclassed a few months later and pretty much forgotten a year later. The idea of ONE unified handset that I could purchase year after year or every 2 years would be a welcome change in my opinion. I like the way Apple does it and would love for somebody to step ahead of the pack and do the same. I want to see a single brand with Android, just one handset that I can track year to year instead of being all over the place.

So here's to hoping that Verizon doesn't muddy up the name with the Droid monikor. Let it stand on it's own 2 feet Verizon and if you insist on calling it the Droid Prime please acknowledge the phones roots (no pun intended) and throw in the Nexus designation as well.

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With all the rumor and speculation of the handset being called the Droid Prime have to say if they go this route I hope they at least acknowledge the Nexus designation in the name i.e call it the Droid Nexus Prime. I personally hope they forego the Droid Monikor and just stick with it being the Nexus Prime.

The idea of the Nexus is one unified handset across ALL carriers. No seperate names or seperate features for the different carriers. When one buys the Nexus Prime, whether they be on Verizon, Sprint or AT&T it's all the same phone. Just like Apple does it with the iPhone.

Google is in a position to do exactly what Apple is doing. They, meaning Google, can build the Nexus brand if they play their cards right. So far they have failed but hopefully starting with the Prime that will change.

I for one am tired of the constant influx of new hardware only to be outclassed a few months later and pretty much forgotten a year later. The idea of ONE unified handset that I could purchase year after year or every 2 years would be a welcome change in my opinion. I like the way Apple does it and would love for somebody to step ahead of the pack and do the same. I want to see a single brand with Android, just one handset that I can track year to year instead of being all over the place.

So here's to hoping that Verizon doesn't muddy up the name with the Droid monikor. Let it stand on it's own 2 feet Verizon and if you insist on calling it the Droid Prime please acknowledge the phones roots (no pun intended) and throw in the Nexus designation as well.
I don't know. . . .I think that the "Droid" name is what's going to sell it. I don't know if Google is as interested in making the best phone out there as they are with making the best OS. Judging from sales of the first 2 Nexus's, they don't really seem like they can compete in hardware.

Unless they change tactics and use one manufacturer for their Nexus devices from here on out (which will probably be Moto starting next year).
 
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I kind of hear you both. But I see the GSII's popularity and reputation overseas as a sign of the phone building doubt you have as perhaps being fixed as in Samsung wants to do it right. And the Prime may stand out more in the crowd than the previous handsets if Google does not neuter the build eh?
I'm waiting to see for myself I guess.
I don't know if Verizon muddied up the iPhone or not, I have not paid attention.
The Bionic is looking more and more like a DX2 with LTE and a dual core to me but ts not out yet and I don't own one so I cannot judge.
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I totally agree with cereal killer. Honestly who cares if the "droid" moniker is going to sell more units. They wouldn't have to worry about that anyway if they just advertised android, or more specifically the nexus line more heavily. I'm totally with the idea of google clearing up the fragmentation within the android ecosystem. It shows stability, and if they were to release and simultaneous nexus unit on all carriers yearly, i think that alone would single-handily free up alot of the consumer confusion that goes on in the android space. This of course still allows carriers and OEMs to do whatever the hell they want throughout the year with the platform. Just as long as google is leading the pack like they should (along with possible pure android via motorola now).
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The iPhone's hardware is outdated before it even releases.

Technology is moving fast and has no plans of slowing down, and Android is the perfect example of this theory. As long as the smallest improvements in mobile technology release, OEMs will continue to make phones so they can make more money. They would make significantly less if they were to stick to 1 phone per year or 2 years, because there are people that actually pay full retail price for phones if they're significantly better than the past ones.
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I totally agree with cereal killer. Honestly who cares if the "droid" moniker is going to sell more units. They wouldn't have to worry about that anyway if they just advertised android, or more specifically the nexus line more heavily. I'm totally with the idea of google clearing up the fragmentation within the android ecosystem. It shows stability, and if they were to release and simultaneous nexus unit on all carriers yearly, i think that alone would single-handily free up alot of the consumer confusion that goes on in the android space. This of course still allows carriers and OEMs to do whatever the hell they want throughout the year with the platform. Just as long as google is leading the pack like they should (along with possible pure android via motorola now).
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You know, with both the SCH-i515 and GT-i9250, I'm wondering if there really will be only 1 "Nexus Prime" device in the States for a while?

The GT-i9250, according to web chatter, is most likely the Vodafone device (basically they are Europe's version of Verizon, they both own mutual stock).

I haven't seen any other models that might be variants of the Prime for other US carriers.

So I'm wondering if Verizon really will have exclusivity for longer than I originally thought. . . .
 
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I think you may be right Han. They all are getting the beautiful SGSII so that may hold them over for a bit. Certainly looks that way to me. At this point in time at least.
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I'll be the first one to say this is entirely speculation and I have no proof but I just have a gut feeling the Droid Prime...

1: Will be the exact same as the Nexus Prime except it will have TouchWiz. This is supposed to be an exclusive Verizon device and Google wouldn't let a Nexus device be tied to a single carrier. Plus we know that Nexus and The Droid Primes have both received wifi and bluetooth certification.

2: Won't be LTE. Verizon wouldn't dump the ad $ into the Bionic if it didn't one up the Prime somehow.

3: If it's the first ICS device, will be pretty buggy because Samsung is probably rushing this out the door to compete with the Iphone 5. There is a chance if it's running TouchWiz it may be Gingerbread.
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I think my jaw will hit the floor if it's not LTE.
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1: Possible, I could see near identical phones on different carriers
2: Zero chance. The LTE ship has sailed on high-end devices (after D3)
3: Possible, but OG Droid was still plenty usable w/2.0 -- and fixes will come
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I'll be the first one to say this is entirely speculation and I have no proof but I just have a gut feeling the Droid Prime...

1: Will be the exact same as the Nexus Prime except it will have TouchWiz. This is supposed to be an exclusive Verizon device and Google wouldn't let a Nexus device be tied to a single carrier. Plus we know that Nexus and The Droid Primes have both received wifi and bluetooth certification.

2: Won't be LTE. Verizon wouldn't dump the ad $ into the Bionic if it didn't one up the Prime somehow.

3: If it's the first ICS device, will be pretty buggy because Samsung is probably rushing this out the door to compete with the Iphone 5. There is a chance if it's running TouchWiz it may be Gingerbread.
I highly doubt that it will be non-LTE. If that's the case, they lost about 85% of customers who were going to get it, including me.

But emotions aside, that's not likely. They're releasing the Stratosphere the same day as Bionic, with LTE.

I think from here on out, anything mid-range to top-end will have LTE enabled on Verizon.
 
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Anybody see this (or is it old news?):

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I'll be the first one to say this is entirely speculation and I have no proof but I just have a gut feeling the Droid Prime...

1: Will be the exact same as the Nexus Prime except it will have TouchWiz. This is supposed to be an exclusive Verizon device and Google wouldn't let a Nexus device be tied to a single carrier. Plus we know that Nexus and The Droid Primes have both received wifi and bluetooth certification.

2: Won't be LTE. Verizon wouldn't dump the ad $ into the Bionic if it didn't one up the Prime somehow.

3: If it's the first ICS device, will be pretty buggy because Samsung is probably rushing this out the door to compete with the Iphone 5. There is a chance if it's running TouchWiz it may be Gingerbread.
1. Developing TW working on ICS would require extra time/effort. So I doubt it when they are trying to get this out as soon as possible.

2. Anything high end android on VZW should have LTE from now on. So it doesn't make sense and they are not so foolish to put out 3G only phone high end phone these days.

3. They were in the work on Prime for more than 6 months. So I don't think it's being rushed.
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I hope something more concrete, semi-official comes out soon. So many speculations, rumors on names, carriers, etc...
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Has anyone seen this? Looks like November is more likely...

Eric Schmidt: Ice Cream Sandwich is coming out in October or November | Android and Me
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The optimist in me wants to believe that it'll be October for Verizon, and November for everyone else...
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Unfortunately, these corporations tend to be rather overly optimistic. Motorola said. . . .geez, doesn't even need to be said what Motorola claimed, but fine. . .the latest prediction was Bionic in "summer". Technically true. 2 weeks before Fall.

Samsung CEO said SGSII would release in the US "sometime in August". Turned out to be middle of September.

Now Google says October/November. I'm betting sometime between November 28 through 30 for ICS release, and probably end of December for Prime.

Looks like my sister (holidays) might've been more right than she knew.

Oh well. I can blow my money on other fun things until this comes out.
 
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As far as I'm concerned, your sister calls the shots around here

So if it's November, it's November. LATE November? It had better be an EPIC friggin' phone. But yeah, I'll keep saving my money up... after all, with 3 upgrades available, I won't be the only one around here shopping for new phones
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I gotta do something by 1/1/2012 because that is my 2 year mark.

What happens if I do not upgrade and NE2 by then? Masters?
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Can we see a pic of your sis?
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I Deserved That
Not having a sister and as restitution in the name of being a proud Father I'll post my Oldest Daughters pic below. She is on the far left with her buddies at a friends opening night gig.
If you run into that savvy crew be forewarned, they will see you coming a mile away.
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Not having a sister and as restitution in the name of being a proud Father I'll post my Oldest Daughters pic below. She is on the far left with her buddies at a friends opening night gig.
If you run into that savvy crew be forewarned, they will see you coming a mile away.
Holy smokes Gapi. Your daughter is BEAUTIFUL. What a body on her.... man she is fine. I LOVE redheads like that.

No disrespect but I would date her in a minute. DAYAMMMM
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I'm betting sometime between November 28 through 30 for ICS release, and probably end of December for Prime.
Well that would be perfect timing for a pile of original Inc users. Many of us that bought at release are due for our last NE2 at the end of December.
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Holy smokes Gapi. Your daughter is BEAUTIFUL. What a body on her.... man she is fine. I LOVE redheads like that.
No disrespect but I would date her in a minute. DAYAMMMM
Thanks, When you have a Daughter like that you get used to it and take it all as complements.

I have been at parties standing around the Keg with a bunch of guys that didn't not know she is my Daughter when she walked by and had to remember how I am when I see someones else s walk by eh?

She has modeled for a Honda commercial, and an Anheuser-Busch add, and was on the Home Shopping Network TV show for a few years. She has done some catalog work too.

Back to the Prime, not the camera.
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Back on topic, another name to keep track of! Samsung Prime! No Droid, no Nexus. Just Samsung Prime. And a rumored late October release!
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Waiting on Prime feels a lot better than SGS2 before. We're getting leaks/rumors almost daily... Pretty sure its release is in late Oct ~ mid Nov.
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With Verizon stiffen us with the SGS II, They better make up for it and soon.
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Link? Or you just throwing this out there?
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Link? Or you just throwing this out there?

Go to this thread, http://androidforums.com/samsung-droid-prime/411242-best-buy-mobile-employee.html

I wish a moderator could merge the two threads.
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Spit.

I had that story on a Google+ spark and now the damn thing doesn't show up!

Soooo... until I can find it again, forget I said it and we'll go with Samsung Droid Prime. I am 100% confident of THAT version... with or without the "Droid", there's no "Nexus" in it. Not on Verizon.

I reference a photo of a release list Mannequins posted in the Samsung Droid Prime forum, that includes a device listed as "Sam Prime" that supercedes "Charge". They may very well replace a Droid device with another. I'll keep searching for that elusive article about Samsung Prime, though.
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I wish a moderator could merge the two threads.
For all we know, there will be BOTH a Nexus Prime (for the other carriers) and Samsung Prime (with or without the "Droid") for Verizon. Merging the two prematurely would create a mess if they turn out to be separate devices.

EDIT: These two forums (what's the plural for that? Fori?) seem to be a mish-mash of the same information, but we're all grasping at whatever we can find out right now. Once the phones are released, we'll all settle in to our respective forums and all will be well. No need to merge IMHO
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Keep in mind that memo was informal so the names written there were just jotted down for reference.

What ever they call it I just want those monster specs eh?
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Old September 10th, 2011, 08:47 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Go to this thread, http://androidforums.com/samsung-droid-prime/411242-best-buy-mobile-employee.html

I wish a moderator could merge the two threads.
LOL, well, there were at least three Moderators that I counted in that thread (no Steven yet ), so they would presumably thought about doing this.

I could merge 'em but I'm sure I'd get slapped-around a bit .

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For all we know, there will be BOTH a Nexus Prime (for the other carriers) and Samsung Prime (with or without the "Droid") for Verizon. Merging the two prematurely would create a mess if they turn out to be separate devices.
+1 Excellent point!
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Old September 10th, 2011, 08:58 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Only Americans have ever heard of "Droid", it being a Verizon brand. If there is a Droid Prime it will be a carrier-specific version of the Nexus Prime. Verizon needs its own version anyway as it uses a different radio communication standard to most of the rest of the world. My guess is that if there is a Droid Prime, it will be very similar in hardware terms to the Nexus Prime, but will probably have Samsung and Verizon "customisations" to the OS. If so it therefore won't be the android reference phone with all the advantages and freedoms that offers (ie prompt updates, unlockable bootloader, app side-loading, lack of carrier and manufacturer interference in the OS).

Hopefully Europe will get a real Google Experience phone as a true successor to the Nexus S and Nexus One. If America isn't too unlucky it will get this too available for other carriers, although by the way Verizon was crowing about not needing a Galaxy SII because of its upcoming Android superphone, it sounds like they might have done a deal to get their version before their competitors. Perhaps Americans in search of a true Nexus will need to wait until after Christmas?
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Old September 11th, 2011, 01:03 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Go to this thread, http://androidforums.com/samsung-droid-prime/411242-best-buy-mobile-employee.html

I wish a moderator could merge the two threads.
I call shenanagens on that doc. Looks like he put it together in notepad.
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It's not that phones are outdated before released. It's that the dev cycle for a product is 12-18 months, 8 if they rush it. That's timeframe after announcement of a new technology like an SoC (system on chip) or even just processor. The time it takes to see the announced tech arrive in a product released to the market.

The technology is announced, then the chips begin sampling (hitting acceptable manufacturing yield), then it goes to phone manufacturers to build devices. It's a lengthy process.

Some of you are comparing tech announcements to actual phone releases (market availability), and that's unfair.
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It's not that phones are outdated before released. It's that the dev cycle for a product is 12-18 months, 8 if they rush it. That's timeframe after announcement of a new technology like an SoC (system on chip) or even just processor. The time it takes to see the announced tech arrive in a product released to the market.

The technology is announced, then the chips begin sampling (hitting acceptable manufacturing yield), then it goes to phone manufacturers to build devices. It's a lengthy process.

Some of you are comparing tech announcements to actual phone releases (market availability), and that's unfair.
Agree. They are 2 different perspectives. Tech that is being discussed today will be "old" come November December but the physical devices themselves upon release will be the "latest and greatest"

Thats the trap. If one constantly chases specs they will never end up buying. The trick is to find that sweet spot. I think buying Dual Cores pushing 1 + GHZ is that "sweet spot" before the new wave of processors hit.
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Agree. They are 2 different perspectives. Tech that is being discussed today will be "old" come November December but the physical devices themselves upon release will be the "latest and greatest"

Thats the trap. If one constantly chases specs they will never end up buying. The trick is to find that sweet spot. I think buying Dual Cores pushing 1 + GHZ is that "sweet spot" before the new wave of processors hit.
I agree. The sweet spot for me is Dual Core 1.2Ghz+, 1GB RAM, 720p screen and top quality digital camera. So far the only phones out that meet that is the SGS II which isn't hitting VZW, sadly. So I'm looking at the iPhone 5, HTC Vigor and Droid/Nexus/Samsung Prime. Whichever one is the best gets my money. Anything after that I won't care for a while.
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i wish verizon wouldn't put all that garbage bloatware on the Prime

and we all know the horror story that was the galaxy and waiting for verizon to release the froyo update

how do we know that wont happen again with the prime???
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 06:04 PM   #43 (permalink)
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We don't. I mean, we've seen the app list for the Prime and it contains NO bloatware... but that MAY be the Prime BEFORE it gets to Verizon, and not the final release. Who knows what VZW will do to it?

All indications, however, point to a pure Ice Cream Sandwich experience with no bloatware getting in the way. We can only hope it actually drops in such pristine condition!
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after Verizon gets a hold of handsets they look race cars from the NASCAR circuit
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