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Old October 7th, 2011, 07:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default ICS and Nexus announcement Delayed!

Whatttttttttttttttt? Are Google and Samsung kidding me right now.

Reports are coming in that they are delaying the announcement next week, and are stating that its the wrong time to make such an Announcement.

I think Steve Jobs passing was a terrible, unfortunate lose to the world. However if they are passing on a release because of his Death and Announcing they are passing because of his death, well that looks more like asking for the light to shine on them a little brighter because of his actual passing...Bad Business if you ask me!

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That's so annoying.

I was looking forward to dumping my 3GS and going for the new flagship Android phone. I hope they don't delay the launch for too long as I really need to upgrade.

Samsung/Google, please don't make me have to go to the iPhone 4S.

Also, I don't see how this could be a mark of respect, as it would have been launching six days after Steve Jobs died. Maybe Google can doo one of their homepage doodles instead.

Frustrating.
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That's so annoying.

I was looking forward to dumping my 3GS and going for the new flagship Android phone. I hope they don't delay the launch for too long as I really need to upgrade.

Samsung/Google, please don't make me have to go to the iPhone 4S.

Also, I don't see how this could be a mark of respect, as it would have been launching six days after Steve Jobs died. Maybe Google can doo one of their homepage doodles instead.

Frustrating.
It's possible the event was set up to skewer Apple in some way.. which now would be probably seen in bad taste.
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It just states the announcement was postponed...not the phone. Until Google/Samsung say otherwise, I'll just assume its business as usual.
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Well iphone sales went live at 3am this morning...

I dont see anything stopping Apple from doing what they have to do, so to me it wouldn't make sense for Google or Samsung to postpone anything at all and say it was because of Steve and the timing was wrong.

The void Steve leaves is immeasurable, so postponing anything after his passing makes no sense to me.
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If job's funeral/ wake is around that time I can see why it would be postponed. The big people like Eric Schmidt and Larry Paige will probably be at the funeral since they seemed like friends. And a Nexus/ics announcement can't happen without them.
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If job's funeral/ wake is around that time I can see why it would be postponed. The big people like Eric Schmidt and Larry Paige will probably be at the funeral since they seemed like friends. And a Nexus/ics announcement can't happen without them.

If that's the case, no problem! That I agree on 100%! However come out and say it. Don't give us some lame its not the time crap. In my eyes Steve was so big, they may as well postpone the whole entire show until the following day if his Funeral falls on that day. Yea I said it, Steve Jobs was that Big. However, if its because the device is not ready and they're playing the its not the right time cards...well then for that I'd say i'll never buy a Samsung or Google product again because that would be plain outright wrong.
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Plus you gotta remember that the media loves Apple and generally couldn't give a rip about Android, so Samsung/Google have to play this one very delicately. If this announcement was meant to skewer the iPhone and take jabs at Apple, the media would eviscerate Samsung/Google and most of the blogosphere would immediately begin to menstruate.
If this is out of respect for Jobs' (which I think it is...his funeral is probably within a day or so of the 11th), then this is the right move. They can re-tweak their unveiling as appropriate and unveil a little bit later. Until I get a notification that the release has been pushed back (which they haven't stated so), then I won't be too irritated.

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...this pisses me off a little....

P3droid was very adamant about their not being a delay in the release of the Nexus device.

and then late last night he tweeted that he may have to go away for a little bit on Twitter ...


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If job's funeral/ wake is around that time I can see why it would be postponed. The big people like Eric Schmidt and Larry Paige will probably be at the funeral since they seemed like friends. And a Nexus/ics announcement can't happen without them.

well that would make a little sense. If the funeral is the same day that would be kind of weird but if that was the case they would/should be able to give an exact date of when it will moved to. Like

due to the funeral of Jobs we're moving the event to Oct 13th ...something to that effect.
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well that would make a little sense. If the funeral is the same day that would be kind of weird but if that was the case they would/should be able to give an exact date of when it will moved to. Like

due to the funeral of Jobs we're moving the event to Oct 13th ...something to that effect.
A lot goes into planning this big of events. They'll probably want to finalize everything before they give a date.
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if you're following the speculation thread, username vz_wired (who claims to work at VZW) says that ice cream sandwich is still being updated and that may have something to do with the delay .
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if you're following the speculation thread, username vz_wired (who claims to work at VZW) says that ice cream sandwich is still being updated and that may have something to do with the delay .

yeah i heard it was getting updated everyday , so was the bionic before release. Which is pretty normal. Most phones get updates on the reg right up until release. That even applies to video games. Every time i buy a brand new xbox game as soon as i stick it in there is already an update for it.
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However, if its because the device is not ready and they're playing the its not the right time cards...well then for that I'd say i'll never buy a Samsung or Google product again because that would be plain outright wrong.
I respect your opinion. Personally, I'd rather they delay to polish up a buggy build rather than ship a product which is so screwed up it requires tons of updates just to function properly. I've experienced that with software and it's always so frustrating. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth for the product and company.

I'll be very annoyed if this turns into the Bionic Syndrome.
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Anyone elso preorder the iPhone 4S after hearing this?

I did - hopefully I can sell and recoup $$ when Prime comes out

I just don't have any patience.
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bad1550...dude, they just delayed the unveiling. No mention of delaying the release.
Beginning to think that people are panicking for nothing. Yes, it's annoying because I wanted to see it on Tuesday, but I'll wait a few days or a week, as long as the release isn't pushed back (eggregiously).
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bad1550...dude, they just delayed the unveiling. No mention of delaying the release.
Beginning to think that people are panicking for nothing. Yes, it's annoying because I wanted to see it on Tuesday, but I'll wait a few days or a week, as long as the release isn't pushed back (eggregiously).
I need a smartphone to hold me over - hopefully the announcement will be within my 14 days return policy
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Rescheduled for the 27th;

Samsung Galaxy Nexus and Ice Cream Sandwich announcement now scheduled for October 27?
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Thank you! Make me feel much better this morning. I do believe that the delay was in respect for Jobs' funeral which is reportedly on Tuesday the 11th. If that's the case it makes perfect sense since many leaders in the tech world will be in attendance.
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If they are announcing it in the UK will the release date be valid for the US or would they need to have a different press release for that and a possible different date for the US?
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This is not confirmed at all.. thenextweb and droid life are all just repeating a tweet from SamFirmware which is not official in any regard..

In fact, it has been contraindicated by a number of sources:

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Is what it is! We pretty much lost the Thomas Edison of our generation, so if his Funeral falls on that day, it would only be the right thing to do.
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I think once they saw how poorly the apple keynote went over they decided they could take a little extra time to get the bugs worked out and not have to rush it out and have people complain about it's bugginess. I personally think if that is the case that is a smart move as you do not want to release another half baked os update.
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I respect your opinion. Personally, I'd rather they delay to polish up a buggy build rather than ship a product which is so screwed up it requires tons of updates just to function properly. I've experienced that with software and it's always so frustrating. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth for the product and company.

I'll be very annoyed if this turns into the Bionic Syndrome.

hmm...I really dont know if thats the case! I pretty much thought both ICS and the Prime were ready to roll! In any event, it doesnt matter at this point because were not going to see anything come next Tuesday. And if it does turn out that Tuesday is Steve Job's Funeral, then I will 100% agree with pushing the date a few days, or week or 2 back. However, if this turns into a month, or 2 months (which I doubt) I'd be really pissed.

moving along, I have the Bionic....It's a pretty good device, the one gigantic bad spot to me is the serious delay on the Auto Focus...Terrible if you ask me on how they still havent rolled out an update yet.
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Well they said it was not the right time to announce a new product. I applaude Samsung and Google for that. This was out of respect for Mr Jobs. Nothing wrong with letting the tech world have a moment of silents for a couple of weeks.
 
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Well they said it was not the right time to announce a new product. I applaude Samsung and Google for that. This was out of respect for Mr Jobs. Nothing wrong with letting the tech world have a moment of silents for a couple of weeks.
I'm sorry but these are companies out to make money. You think all the investors want them to delay a product because of someone passing? Yes I understand that some may feel that is what needs to be done but if thats the case and it is ok for apple to continue preorders for the 4s why a week later can a company that has nothing to do with apple not unveil a new product? I am still saying it is because ics isnt ready yet.
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hmm...I really dont know if thats the case! I pretty much thought both ICS and the Prime were ready to roll! In any event, it doesnt matter at this point because were not going to see anything come next Tuesday. And if it does turn out that Tuesday is Steve Job's Funeral, then I will 100% agree with pushing the date a few days, or week or 2 back. However, if this turns into a month, or 2 months (which I doubt) I'd be really pissed.

moving along, I have the Bionic....It's a pretty good device, the one gigantic bad spot to me is the serious delay on the Auto Focus...Terrible if you ask me on how they still havent rolled out an update yet.
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Maybe now that it is pushed back they will do a release at the same time or a few days later rather than making us wait weeks to be able to order???
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I'm sorry but these are companies out to make money. You think all the investors want them to delay a product because of someone passing? Yes I understand that some may feel that is what needs to be done but if thats the case and it is ok for apple to continue preorders for the 4s why a week later can a company that has nothing to do with apple not unveil a new product? I am still saying it is because ics isnt ready yet.
I think its decent to wait.. especially if their presentation involved attacking Apple.. but if you insist on a cold calculating reason, then the distraction from the CTIA event from the media coverage on his death would be detrimental to their purposes.
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I'm sorry but these are companies out to make money. You think all the investors want them to delay a product because of someone passing? Yes I understand that some may feel that is what needs to be done but if thats the case and it is ok for apple to continue preorders for the 4s why a week later can a company that has nothing to do with apple not unveil a new product? I am still saying it is because ics isnt ready yet.
If you have a product that will kick the iPhone 4S out of the news and into the basement you cancel it. It's in bad taste. They obviously have a "weapon" on their hands and to unleash it now is just not good judgement.

Apple lost it's General there's no use bombing them right now. Let them mourn the loss and then resume battle.

Samsung/Google would look bad for running up the score. The delay was the right thing to do.

I have a lot of respect for these 2 Corporations (Google/Samsung) for doing the "right thing" Would Apple do the same? Probably not. But 2 wrongs don't make a right...
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So as it looks, and as reported, Steve Jobs was buried today as Red as posted here in this article.

So in that regard I would point the finger at Samsung and Google for using an excuse for a push back...As they're original statement was....We feel that its not the right time for a release? So what they did was use Steves mourning as an excuse. Pretty tasteless IMO being his Funeral was today, if it was Tuesday I'd feel pushing it back would have been the right thing to do. But today is Friday, they're event was not to be held until Tuesday. If ICS and the Nexus are ready, they could have done a small tribute abiut Mr Jobs, and then went along with they're release and business as usual.

As it looks, ICS and our new Nexus must not be ready for Prime Time...So now the wait beginnings...
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Right, I think they were expecting fight with iPhone5 and the presentation on Nexus/ICS probably involves some kind of taking jab at Apple. Whether we like it or not, it's not the right timing for them. Especially when iPhone4S is nothing to worry about. I'm fine even if they use this unexpected extra time to polish ICS more for releasing Nexus.
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If you have a product that will kick the iPhone 4S out of the news and into the basement you cancel it. It's in bad taste. They obviously have a "weapon" on their hands and to unleash it now is just not good judgement.

Apple lost it's General there's no use bombing them right now. Let them mourn the loss and then resume battle.

Samsung/Google would look bad for running up the score. The delay was the right thing to do.

I have a lot of respect for these 2 Corporations (Google/Samsung) for doing the "right thing" Would Apple do the same? Probably not. But 2 wrongs don't make a right...

Lol...no way would Apple wait! But the more I read and learned about Steve through the years...he seemed like a very decent Human being.
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So as it looks, and as reported, Steve Jobs was buried today as Red as posted here in this article.

So in that regard I would point the finger at Samsung and Google for using an excuse for a push back...As they're original statement was....We feel that its not the right time for a release? So what they did was use Steves mourning as an excuse. Pretty tasteless IMO being his Funeral was today, if it was Tuesday I'd feel pushing it back would have been the right thing to do. But today is Friday, they're event was not to be held until Tuesday. If ICS and the Nexus are ready, they could have done a small tribute abiut Mr Jobs, and then went along with they're release and business as usual.

As it looks, ICS and our new Nexus must not be ready for Prime Time...So now the wait beginnings...
Though his funeral was today, Tuesday is still too close for that I think. Delaying the announcement by a week or two would be better.

The device must be pretty much ready as there is no way they would have known Steve's passing away this week.
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Maybe the presentation compared it to the iphone a lot, and took a lot of jabs at the iphones weaker points.
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If you have a product that will kick the iPhone 4S out of the news and into the basement you cancel it. It's in bad taste. They obviously have a "weapon" on their hands and to unleash it now is just not good judgement.

Apple lost it's General there's no use bombing them right now. Let them mourn the loss and then resume battle.

Samsung/Google would look bad for running up the score. The delay was the right thing to do.

I have a lot of respect for these 2 Corporations (Google/Samsung) for doing the "right thing" Would Apple do the same? Probably not. But 2 wrongs don't make a right...
This is all about making money and has nothing to do with Jobs. Like I said ICS isn't quite ready for prime time thats why they are delaying it since they do not need to rush it.


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Maybe the presentation compared it to the iphone a lot, and took a lot of jabs at the iphones weaker points.

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PR person let this slip today in a CTIA invite: "I know we’re up against the Samsung/Google news and the Verizon announcement"

Seems maybe verizon was going to make an announcement at the supposed tuesday event? Maybe now we wont have to wait as long and will be able to preorder the same day or a day after rather than weeks after it is announced.
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Right, I think they were expecting fight with iPhone5 and the presentation on Nexus/ICS probably involves some kind of taking jab at Apple. Whether we like it or not, it's not the right timing for them. Especially when iPhone4S is nothing to worry about. I'm fine even if they use this unexpected extra time to polish ICS more for releasing Nexus.
The apple iphone 4S just sold out in one day. 200,000 units at AT&T.
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The 16gb sold out on apple,sprint, and Verizon sites...says ships in 1-2 weeks..wow
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Early on I believe early November was thrown about for the launch date of the Prime. Of course we don't know for sure, but if that is the case, they can announce anytime between when they where going to announce and the actual launch date. As long as this doesn't get pushed back to December/Jan, I can believe they did this due to Steve's passing. Although I am an Android guy, I give respect to Google and VZ for pushing out the press event. This is the right thing to do. As much as I dislike Jobs for how he treated his employees, he was a visionary that helped shape PCs, SmartPhones, and Tablets. He deserves this respect. RIP Steve Jobs.

* Note * I am still not going to buy an iPhone! Nexus Prime all the way for me
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I'm not surprised at all. Phone will sell very well!
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I think Samsung and Google made the right decision. And about shareholders not wanting to push it back and basically go for the jugular - where is human decency anymore?

I can wait a couple weeks to hear about a new phone when someone as influential in the tech business for over 30 years passes away.
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I think everyone is overplaying the "announcement" aspect vis a vis the release of the phone. Most of the sources that members here deem credible have pointed towards Nov 3 as the release date. There was speculation that it may be October 27, but either way all signs point to one of these two dates. My rationale is that as noted in several posts above, iPhone - regardless of what we all seem to agree is inferior hardware and possibly software, is selling out units at all the carriers. Think about it, every time someone signs a new contract they're out of the pool of potential Nexus Prime buyers, regardless of carrier. If you believe the notion that Verizon has the exclusive release it's worse. Each of those other carriers selling iPhones right now are preventing a possible migration to your business. Granted, some of these people may have never considered the NP because they buy anything Apple, but not everyone falls into this category.

The bottom line is this: I always thought releasing the Nexus AFTER the iPhone was a risky strategy because of the ideas noted above. iPhone sold 2.3 million units in the last quarter on Verizon - more than all Android devices combined. The point is that Samsung/Google/Verizon need this phone to be released sooner rather than later. To that point, there's simply zero chance this phone releases Q1 2012, as some have rumored. I'd mortgage my house on that. It's that simple and logical in my mind.
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I think everyone is overplaying the "announcement" aspect vis a vis the release of the phone. Most of the sources that members here deem credible have pointed towards Nov 3 as the release date. There was speculation that it may be October 27, but either way all signs point to one of these two dates. My rationale is that as noted in several posts above, iPhone - regardless of what we all seem to agree is inferior hardware and possibly software, is selling out units at all the carriers. Think about it, every time someone signs a new contract they're out of the pool of potential Nexus Prime buyers, regardless of carrier. If you believe the notion that Verizon has the exclusive release it's worse. Each of those other carriers selling iPhones right now are preventing a possible migration to your business. Granted, some of these people may have never considered the NP because they buy anything Apple, but not everyone falls into this category.

The bottom line is this: I always thought releasing the Nexus AFTER the iPhone was a risky strategy because of the ideas noted above. iPhone sold 2.3 million units in the last quarter on Verizon - more than all Android devices combined. The point is that Samsung/Google/Verizon need this phone to be released sooner rather than later. To that point, there's simply zero chance this phone releases Q1 2012, as some have rumored. I'd mortgage my house on that. It's that simple and logical in my mind.
If they wait that long to release it I will buy another phone. No use waiting and waiting since the longer you wait the longer until you can upgrade again.
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If they wait that long to release it I will buy another phone. No use waiting and waiting since the longer you wait the longer until you can upgrade again.

I agree on this....Hopefully we're not looking at a Bionic replay!
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I agree on this....Hopefully we're not looking at a Bionic replay!
I originally was going to buy the bionic had it come out in july. Then it kept getting pushed back and with other rumored phones right around the corner I was let down once it actually was released. Google needs to get this worked out that is one good thing about the iphone atleast I know it will be updated at the same time and another better phone wont come out 3 weeks later. If they push the prime back past nov sadly I'll be going with the new iphone.
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I originally was going to buy the bionic had it come out in july. Then it kept getting pushed back and with other rumored phones right around the corner I was let down once it actually was released. Google needs to get this worked out that is one good thing about the iphone atleast I know it will be updated at the same time and another better phone wont come out 3 weeks later. If they push the prime back past nov sadly I'll be going with the new iphone.

We think alike...The best thing about the iphone is there's no worrying about new Hardware every couple of weeks, and the fact that they don't BS with software updates...its a pretty seamless thing with them. Android on the other hand is the wild west, which can be fun at times, but is getting a little old IMO. The Bionic took forever, and now that its here, tons of people are left to use a phone where the Auto focus can take up to 10 seconds to focus on a pic, and a 4G signal that constantly drops. Other then that phone is pretty good, but push an update out ASAP, or better yet after a 9 month wait those problems shouldn't even exist. I too may decide to grab an iphone 4s, one to support the American economy, and 2 because I use my camera alot, and that camera looks like it may be an industry best once its released. Plus I'm tired of buying new phones every 3 months...its getting a little crazy if ya ask me....lol
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Wow, so you guys consider defecting to dark side. I also feel that delayed android updates and phone launches are often frustrating. But I wouldn't go that far. That's just unthinkable for me. To each his/her own, but for me Apple means living in jail their way and Android means freedom though it gets rough at times. I think once Ice Cream comes in full swing on most devices next year, a lot of issues in current android system will be gone.
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This delayed announcement / release of a new top of the line android phone is typical Verizon. I think other than the original droid, all others have had delay issues.
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