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Old October 12th, 2011, 07:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just wondering if the rumors are true (IF) and the Nexus Prime / Nexus Galaxy does not have a microSD card slot, will that turn anyone away from this phone?

I personally love having the microSD card slot on all my phones and makes for quick transferring of information and in case the phone dies for whatever reason I still have all my data.

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IF it has 32 gigs of onboard memory then no, that would not be killer for me. With Google Music and other forms of cloud storage for photo's and such it wouldn't be much of a worry for me.
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It would not keep me from getting the phone because I know there are ways to adapt. But I have had to reset my DInc 3 times in 2 years and never lost any of my pictures, downloads or music because they are all on my SD card - that is a nice feature. If necessary, I could periodically back everything up on my laptop though.

Extra space doesn't bother me...32G is enough - how much do you really need to keep on your phone/portable computer anyway?
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Extra space doesn't bother me...32G is enough - how much do you really need to keep on your phone/portable computer anyway?
How much? For me, a lot. I have an extensive music library and never know what I'll be in the mood to listen to so I have many GB of tunes. Then you have picture and video you take. Clearly few people will use their phones for vacation videos but it would be nice to have the space. Then if you want to have a few videos to fill up boring lunch hours, it adds up to a lot.

The lack of a SD card isn't a showstopper for me, but it's another nail in this phone's coffin.
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I will be annoyed! Its so easy to just swap memory with an SD card, it's not the size of memory for me, its the ease of just swapping music and pic albums when I like!
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I'd like the option to remove it and upgrade the memory, but in all reality, I probably wouldn't have done it. For example, my T-bolt came with a 32gb card pre-populated, and I never once touched it and have no plans to do so, either.
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I will be annoyed! Its so easy to just swap memory with an SD card, it's not the size of memory for me, its the ease of just swapping music and pic albums when I like!
This. It's not the quantity of memory, it is the convenience. This is something that set Android apart from iPhone and would be a dealbreaker, for me.

No SDcard on the Nexus, and I'll be getting the Vigor.
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for me this is not an issue as long as its 32 on board.

for the following topics

losing data if something happens to the phone: ...cloud storage/backup its the way of the future and is coming so learn about it. Also doing regular backups on your pc as well.

transferring files: how is this a factor? Even on a phone with an SD you plugged it into your pc to transfer files. That wouldn't change.
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It would keep me from buying one. The lack of a SD card slot is what keeps me from buying a IPhone. Use to be the hardwired battery and SD card but I hear that the batteries are replaceable in the newer IPhones so now it is the SD card.
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Makes no difference to me. Don't think I've ever even touched the SD card on my Droid X.
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Makes no difference to me. Don't think I've ever even touched the SD card on my Droid X.

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I guess I will post this here also since this is a thread about the sd card/sd card slot.

There's a chance the phone may have an sd card slot, except you will have to purchase an sd card or use one you already have.......but don't get too excited about this, as it still may come with no sd card slot.

From jcase on the #gnexus channel:
<@jcase> apparently i maybe wrong about the no sdcard slot, i could of interpreted "no sdcard" as not having a slot, instead of not coming with one.
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Nah... I have a Nexus One right now. So the fact that I'll be able to load all the apps onto it without "running out of space" issues, I'm happy!
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It seems odd that it would not have an SD slot. Are there any phones that have come out recently that do not have an SD slot? - except for the iPhone.
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It's dumb not to include SD but 32 is plenty. The only reason people gripe about this is because with more HD space the human body simply figures I can put more useless stuff on my phone that i'll never use.

One has to ask themselves how often do they go back and look at their 5000 pictures or hope that they can show it to someone.

When you put 15 albums on a storage device let alone 1000...you'll find it becomes equally impossible to ever know what to listen to on a constant basis.

If people could get over the bigger is better and use quality over quantity. 32gb would be enough for any civilized person (:
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Just wondering if the rumors are true (IF) and the Nexus Prime / Nexus Galaxy does not have a microSD card slot, will that turn anyone away from this phone?
Nope, not me.
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The more I think about it, the more I wouldn't understand why Samsung wouldn't include a slot in this phone. The Lack of it being on board for the Nexus S deff hurt it...Its just something that should be included. Next were gonna hear they're moving away from replaceable batteries on all they're phones to go along with no SD cards...hmmm, they're is only one BIG Fruit that goes that route these days.
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With 32GB on-board, the lack of an sd card slot is pretty much a non-factor.

I've got right around 10GB of music, and I rarely store all of it on the device (usually just playlists I've made). I mainly watch YT vids on my phone, since I have no intention of watching a full length movie on a phone screen (that's what my Xoom is for, and it has an sd slot).
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The more I think about it, the more I wouldn't understand why Samsung wouldn't include a slot in this phone. The Lack of it being on board for the Nexus S deff hurt it...Its just something that should be included. Next were gonna hear they're moving away from replaceable batteries on all they're phones to go along with no SD cards...hmmm, they're is only one BIG Fruit that goes that route these days.

in what ways did it hurt the Nexus S? Maybe we should start a thread in the Nexus S thread just asking the users what they thought about it going in and what their opinion is on it now after using it.
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in what ways did it hurt the Nexus S? Maybe we should start a thread in the Nexus S thread just asking the users what they thought about it going in and what their opinion is on it now after using it.

I agree to that...let's do it, I'd be interested to hear what they have to say!

Honestly, I cross paths with so many smart phone users on a daily basis. I've hardly ever run into a Nexus S owner, maybe one or two since its release. However I know a good bunch of Nexus 1 owners... Actually a member of my health club was super excited about Samsung making the S and was all set to buy it, he was so jealous of my Fascinate screen...Anyway he wound up passing because of the lack of the SD card slot and the lack of 720p recording on board. Ended up keeping his HTC Nexus 1...
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It will be a trade off to some of us....like the RAZR having a not so easy to remove or non removable battery.

The sd card has been the cause of issues recently with Android phones tho. When the Droid X launched, someone had a problem that removing the sd card and/or replacing it fixed. I dont think I could give up the convenience. I have pics on sd cards lying around that I can just swap in n out instead of dumping them all on my phone.

If something as small as a notification light (I dont think its small, its a deal breaker to me, for me) has ppl thinking twice if it doesnt have one, I can see this making ppl think twice too.
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I agree to that...let's do it, I'd be interested to hear what they have to say!

**Life without an SD slot** need feedback

boom! lol


yeah i don't know any one that owns a nexus device in my area. Mainly because Turd Mobile sux where i live.
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Well fellow Primers...We may be in for a trend here! I just watched the Phandroid Preview of the Atrix 2...and guess what? No SD card slot onboard with only 16gig of Internal memory on that bad boy...Hmmm
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so when the galaxy nexus is rooted, we get superuser...and we start seeing custom ROMs and kernels...

with no SD card, how are we going to use Titanium Backup???

every time we flash our phone with a new kernel or ROM, we're gonna have to wipe data over and over again (including apps)???

someone please tell me there will be a way around this...
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Well fellow Primers...We may be in for a trend here! I just watched the Phandroid Preview of the Atrix 2...and guess what? No SD card slot onboard with only 16gig of Internal memory on that bad boy...Hmmm
Veeery interesting...lol. I dont like this trend.

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so when the galaxy nexus is rooted, we get superuser...and we start seeing custom ROMs and kernels...

with no SD card, how are we going to use Titanium Backup???

every time we flash our phone with a new kernel or ROM, we're gonna have to wipe data over and over again (including apps)???

someone please tell me there will be a way around this...
Very good question. I think we may have to spend some time in the Nexus S forums to find out.
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Veeery interesting...lol. I dont like this trend.



Very good question. I think we may have to spend some time in the Nexus S forums to find out.
this has already been asked in the massive thread in this forum.

the onboard memory gets partitioned and there is part of it that doesn't get wiped. I believe that is how it was answered.
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http://androidforums.com/nexus-s-all-things-root/420759-ultimate-root-thread-roms-kernels-how.html


^^^that is for the Nexus S section
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Not too worried about it.

Pictures : Google+ auto uploads all of my pics
Video : (Haven't tried it as I am still on 3G, but once on 4G it shouldn't be an issue) Google+ auto uploads videos
Music : Google Music

As for the Rom thing, I don't think it will be a big deal. Quick backup of a few things on my PC. I'm not worried about texts and such (and never have been). Contacts and Apps are all stored on Google. Amazon apps are all stored on Amazon.com.
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Not too worried about it.

Pictures : Google+ auto uploads all of my pics
Video : (Haven't tried it as I am still on 3G, but once on 4G it shouldn't be an issue) Google+ auto uploads videos
Music : Google Music

As for the Rom thing, I don't think it will be a big deal. Quick backup of a few things on my PC. I'm not worried about texts and such (and never have been). Contacts and Apps are all stored on Google. Amazon apps are all stored on Amazon.com.
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Not too worried about it.

Pictures : Google+ auto uploads all of my pics
Video : (Haven't tried it as I am still on 3G, but once on 4G it shouldn't be an issue) Google+ auto uploads videos
Music : Google Music

As for the Rom thing, I don't think it will be a big deal. Quick backup of a few things on my PC. I'm not worried about texts and such (and never have been). Contacts and Apps are all stored on Google. Amazon apps are all stored on Amazon.com.
You always have Youtube for your videos too.
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so when the galaxy nexus is rooted, we get superuser...and we start seeing custom ROMs and kernels...

with no SD card, how are we going to use Titanium Backup???

every time we flash our phone with a new kernel or ROM, we're gonna have to wipe data over and over again (including apps)???

someone please tell me there will be a way around this...
back titanium up to a dropbox account and you can restore from dropbox.
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I was strongly opposed to the nexus s mostly because it was made by Samsung (i had just dealt with a ton of issues with my girlfriends vibrant). Despite this i was willing to give the nexus s a chance until i was sitting in best buy holding the phone and was told there was no memory card slot. I had just purchased a 32gb micro sd card and was not about to give up that luxury.

Not having an sd card slot just doesnt make sense to me. Yes 32gb is a lot of space, and its better than the 16gb of built in space on the ns, but the convenience of being able to swap cards out is my concern. Im constantly in situations were i can quickly exchange info between friends and coworkers thru sd card swaps. Ive exchanged everything from important documents to a season of a funny show all because we had sd cards that could be swapped out. Im not saying that i wont get the Nexus prime because of this but thats a huge convenience im losing. Especially since i was looking forward to the 64gb that i would have had simply by poping in my 32gb card.
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it boggles my mind why you would swap out memory cards with friends to send files such as documents pics and even songs.....why would you not just email them to that person? (the docs and pics , i realize the size limitations would prevent you from emailing seasons of a show)

if you put all of your pics on a webserver...like picasa or even flickr....then you have access to all of your pics. so lets say there is a pic you want that isn't on your SD card but it is on your picasa....just download it.


i know its personal preference but it just seems inefficient to me to swap between multiple sd cards these days when you have so many forms of online storage.
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it boggles my mind why you would swap out memory cards with friends to send files such as documents pics and even songs.....why would you not just email them to that person? (the docs and pics , i realize the size limitations would prevent you from emailing seasons of a show)

if you put all of your pics on a webserver...like picasa or even flickr....then you have access to all of your pics. so lets say there is a pic you want that isn't on your SD card but it is on your picasa....just download it.


i know its personal preference but it just seems inefficient to me to swap between multiple sd cards these days when you have so many forms of online storage.
No I understand what your saying, ill admit that ive been slow at adopting services like picasa, and that does make sense for pictures. However i have a lot of personal videos from family gatherings and such that im not cozy with loading on a server (some pics as well). I also have some private documents that are constantly being exchanged that im also uncomfortable with uploading. Its just a matter of personal convenience. One of the big reasons that i loved my smart phone was that i stopped having to carry jump drives on me, and im probably stuck in that mind set. I get that there is a lot of cloud based services but one of the things that android is big on is choice, and i dislike losing that option.
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The microSD slot is an overrated feature.

You can still access the built in SD card via USB cable, so there isn't much of a need for having removable media.
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I will have to look into that..picasa, flickr. I never thought to do that.

But... I have certain pics I dont wanna put online...lol
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Old October 13th, 2011, 09:39 AM   #37 (permalink)
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No I understand what your saying, ill admit that ive been slow at adopting services like picasa, and that does make sense for pictures. However i have a lot of personal videos from family gatherings and such that im not cozy with loading on a server (some pics as well). I also have some private documents that are constantly being exchanged that im also uncomfortable with uploading. Its just a matter of personal convenience. One of the big reasons that i loved my smart phone was that i stopped having to carry jump drives on me, and im probably stuck in that mind set. I get that there is a lot of cloud based services but one of the things that android is big on is choice, and i dislike losing that option.

I agree with my man! I have stuff that I just don't trust sitting on some cloud waiting for some clown hacker to break into and blast all over the internet...call me paranoid, but its just something I'd rather have on me, as opposed to on a server or file of some sorts.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 09:40 AM   #38 (permalink)
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No I understand what your saying, ill admit that ive been slow at adopting services like picasa, and that does make sense for pictures. However i have a lot of personal videos from family gatherings and such that im not cozy with loading on a server (some pics as well). I also have some private documents that are constantly being exchanged that im also uncomfortable with uploading. Its just a matter of personal convenience. One of the big reasons that i loved my smart phone was that i stopped having to carry jump drives on me, and im probably stuck in that mind set. I get that there is a lot of cloud based services but one of the things that android is big on is choice, and i dislike losing that option.
You can use the phone as a jump drive by using the USB cable.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 09:46 AM   #39 (permalink)
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well the privacy thing is totally understandable i mean ....its a good thing Sony isn't in charge of that....lol

i guess i don't care enough to worry if someone gets my shiz. I'll admit i have a picasa accnt but i don't have it set up like it needs to be. So maybe i should go home today and work on that ......since it is freakin blocked here at my work.

this is just another adaptation of Tech evolving. Think back before we had phones that did have SD slots......
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Old October 13th, 2011, 10:00 AM   #40 (permalink)
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How much? For me, a lot. I have an extensive music library and never know what I'll be in the mood to listen to so I have many GB of tunes. Then you have picture and video you take. Clearly few people will use their phones for vacation videos but it would be nice to have the space. Then if you want to have a few videos to fill up boring lunch hours, it adds up to a lot.

The lack of a SD card isn't a showstopper for me, but it's another nail in this phone's coffin.
Sounds like someone is late to the Google Music party.

It's amazing how quickly this happened, but I'm at the point now where copying music to an SD card is just unacceptable and ridiculous to me. Google music is awesome.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 10:08 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Not too worried about it.

Pictures : Google+ auto uploads all of my pics
Video : (Haven't tried it as I am still on 3G, but once on 4G it shouldn't be an issue) Google+ auto uploads videos
Music : Google Music

As for the Rom thing, I don't think it will be a big deal. Quick backup of a few things on my PC. I'm not worried about texts and such (and never have been). Contacts and Apps are all stored on Google. Amazon apps are all stored on Amazon.com.

Hmmm lets say you got a serie to watch on your pnone lets say it is 1st season of V on 720p format and it is 12gb big. And you dont like dont have a Pc or laptop to backup shit. You got your music Cd's convertet to mp3 320 format, aka 1cd 300-500Mb lets say 10cds min 5gb sume 17gb. The 16gb is full so gg. And there is the rest of us outsite US soil. If u dont need SD card then ask them to make it with no removable battery too. Why you snould remove your battery?? You dont need too you can get a car charge photovoltaike charger a bike charger a nuclear plant on your backpack a 4 AA converter a hamster on a wheel, so you can charge it everywhere you want. I dont say everyone is aSd card but put the slot and let me to deside if I want one to use or not. And if you are fun of no Sd go pay from 8to 16 100$ and from 16 to 32 100$ when a sd 32gb does cost 50-70 class 10.

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Old October 13th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #42 (permalink)
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if you don't have a pc you probably shouldn't own a smartphone
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Old October 13th, 2011, 10:17 AM   #43 (permalink)
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if you don't have a pc you probably shouldn't own a smartphone

Why ? You can do all thinks from your smartphone. No Pc required.
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It's dumb not to include SD but 32 is plenty. The only reason people gripe about this is because with more HD space the human body simply figures I can put more useless stuff on my phone that i'll never use.

One has to ask themselves how often do they go back and look at their 5000 pictures or hope that they can show it to someone.

When you put 15 albums on a storage device let alone 1000...you'll find it becomes equally impossible to ever know what to listen to on a constant basis.

If people could get over the bigger is better and use quality over quantity. 32gb would be enough for any civilized person (:
I disagree. I have hundreds of albums on my phone because my tastes vary and I never know what I want to listen to. I think more storage is always better. So as larger cards come down in price, I can upgrade. And anyone who won't need the space doesn't need to pay for the extra memory (think that onboard memory is free?).

Consider the space requirements of a phone that takes 1080p video. Combine that with anything else you may have on the card. 32gb feels pretty small in that scenario.

Add the security and disaster recovery of a SD card. If my phone fails, I can remove the card. No card and a non-booting phone equals a data disaster.

SD cards, like removable batteries and LED indicators, are part of the Android experience in my opinion.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 02:14 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Oh man, not this again. People got all mad about the Nexus S not having a memory card slot and it's probably going to happen again here.

Assuming you are always connected to the internet, you can use Subsonic for music and videos. Of course, this is to watch 'em, not store them.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 02:42 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I disagree. I have hundreds of albums on my phone because my tastes vary and I never know what I want to listen to. I think more storage is always better. So as larger cards come down in price, I can upgrade. And anyone who won't need the space doesn't need to pay for the extra memory (think that onboard memory is free?).

Consider the space requirements of a phone that takes 1080p video. Combine that with anything else you may have on the card. 32gb feels pretty small in that scenario.

Add the security and disaster recovery of a SD card. If my phone fails, I can remove the card. No card and a non-booting phone equals a data disaster.

SD cards, like removable batteries and LED indicators, are part of the Android experience in my opinion.
I would venture to say you are a fringe case regarding phone space requirements. It will still take several hours of compressed 1080p video on the cam to full that memory. Exactly how much video or music does the average person need to carry around locally on his/her phone, especially with the cloud technology available nowadays?

I venture the average person will be absolutely and utterly fine with 32 GB. Again, it doesn't sound like your requirements are those of the "average" person ...
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Not having an sd card slot just doesnt make sense to me. Yes 32gb is a lot of space, and its better than the 16gb of built in space on the ns, but the convenience of being able to swap cards out is my concern. Im constantly in situations were i can quickly exchange info between friends and coworkers thru sd card swaps. Ive exchanged everything from important documents to a season of a funny show all because we had sd cards that could be swapped out.
They're going the "bump" NFC route for exchanging things between phones, I think.

Embrace it!
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Old October 13th, 2011, 06:57 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I don't store anything important on my phone, so as long as the storage is ample, removing is not an issue for me. The only thing it would have is photos I haven't yet transferred.

Everything else is in the cloud.
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Old October 13th, 2011, 07:21 PM   #49 (permalink)
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The microSD slot is an overrated feature.

You can still access the built in SD card via USB cable, so there isn't much of a need for having removable media.
Can anybody who is bummed about the Nexus Prime (possibly) not having an SD card slot reply to ZachMob about why they need it when there is USB? I am only asking because I am a noob with smartphones and I am interested in getting the Nexus Prime, but I am wondering what possible inconveniences or drawbacks I might have to put up with, with the lack of an SD card slot...
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Old October 13th, 2011, 08:23 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Are u able to transfer alll your info from your SD card to the G-Nex or any phone for the matter through Bluetooth??? or do u need to use the computer as a middle device for transfer?
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