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Old November 6th, 2011, 10:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Video stabilization(most wanted feature) for Galaxy Nexus?

Does there any 3rd party application already have this? Or is there any possible to create a app for video stabilization? Just asking, because this is my most wanted feature.

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Doesn't the GN already include it?
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Doesn't the GN already include it?
Nope, currently I believe that iPhone 4s only has this feature.The video stabilization was using accerelation and gyroscope which make smooth movie-like quality.
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Nope, currently I believe that iPhone 4s only has this feature.The video stabilization was using accerelation and gyroscope which make smooth movie-like quality.
I thought during the Gnex presentation, they said the video camera did have stabilization.
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I thought during the Gnex presentation, they said the video camera did have stabilization.
I think that is image stabilization, any proof?
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This was actually brought to android, at least for video chat, in honeycomb.
Google Talk getting real-time video calls image stabilization in Android Honeycomb devices
It has been extended in ICS. Check the camera section in the link below.
Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich: First look - GSMArena.com

The problem is that some of the test videos I have seen on youtube make the IS look too aggressive to the point of unnatural (It's worth noting that the vids may have been made using pre release ICS). The video below is the worse I have seen. Most other videos look much better. Because of this I am not sure if there is something else going on.
Galaxy Nexus Kameratest - YouTube
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This was actually brought to android, at least for video chat, in honeycomb.
Google Talk getting real-time video calls image stabilization in Android Honeycomb devices
It has been extended in ICS. Check the camera section in the link below.
Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich: First look - GSMArena.com

The problem is that some of the test videos I have seen on youtube make the IS look too aggressive to the point of unnatural (It's worth noting that the vids may have been made using pre release ICS). The video below is the worse I have seen. Most other videos look much better. Because of this I am not sure if there is something else going on.
Galaxy Nexus Kameratest - YouTube
If that's due to stabilization, then I don't know what to think. To me, it looks like the rolling shutter effect that's caused by the method used to capture the video -- instead of an entire frame at a time, it's recording one scan line at a time, so the top of the tree does not appear where it should in relation to the base of the tree (aka "Jello Effect").

I do remember some comments about the camera not being the final version in some pic posts a week or so ago -- didn't consider they were referring to video shooting at the time, but I hope that's what this is. I don't know what the solution to rolling shutter is other than to use a CCD chip, but it's a well enough know effect that plagues not only earlier iPhones but some higher end DSLRs, too, that it should have been a consideration in the design of the Nexus.

The clarity of the images in the video is stunning, so I've got my fingers crossed that this extreme example is a pre-release glitch that will be cleaned up in the production units.
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If that's due to stabilization, then I don't know what to think. To me, it looks like the rolling shutter effect that's caused by the method used to capture the video -- instead of an entire frame at a time, it's recording one scan line at a time, so the top of the tree does not appear where it should in relation to the base of the tree (aka "Jello Effect").

I do remember some comments about the camera not being the final version in some pic posts a week or so ago -- didn't consider they were referring to video shooting at the time, but I hope that's what this is. I don't know what the solution to rolling shutter is other than to use a CCD chip, but it's a well enough know effect that plagues not only earlier iPhones but some higher end DSLRs, too, that it should have been a consideration in the design of the Nexus.

The clarity of the images in the video is stunning, so I've got my fingers crossed that this extreme example is a pre-release glitch that will be cleaned up in the production units.
The reason I was thinking it was at least partially due to the IS is because it seems that the frame is almost locked on a grid. It seems to be jumping from one snap point to another in discrete steps. Its not a continuous jiggle distortion I would typically expect from the rolling shutter effect.

I do agree that the picture is impressively sharp once stable. And equally impressive is the continuous auto focus. You can Kind of hear it in action throughout the video.
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You can Kind of hear it in action throughout the video.
Is that what that noise is? I figured it was some unrelated equipment running in the background. Huh!

Well... I don't want to come across as Debbie Downer -- this will almost certainly be my next phone -- but I'd have a hard time watching video shot with this because the jiggle affect about makes me queasy. But I'm totally hoping some last minute tweaking will minimize the noise and the rolling shutter.

Somebody in the mega thread thought I was being to critical on what is, in reality, a lowly phone cam. Maybe I am, but on playback, I can only watch that jiggle in short doses.

Otherwise, no doubt, the picture quality is stunning.
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Is that what that noise is? I figured it was some unrelated equipment running in the background. Huh!

Well... I don't want to come across as Debbie Downer -- this will almost certainly be my next phone -- but I'd have a hard time watching video shot with this because the jiggle affect about makes me queasy. But I'm totally hoping some last minute tweaking will minimize the noise and the rolling shutter.

Somebody in the mega thread thought I was being to critical on what is, in reality, a lowly phone cam. Maybe I am, but on playback, I can only watch that jiggle in short doses.

Otherwise, no doubt, the picture quality is stunning.
That is true, that is why we are all waiting this phone.
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I was hoping for smoother video:

Samsung Galaxy Nexus Full HD Video - YouTube

I guess I had high expectations after viewing the "Rockaway Beach" video that Samsung presented. I did not realize initially that there was mechanical assistance in making the RB video that apparently masked some of the "jitters" and "perspective shifts" of the videos made with the Galaxy Nexus.
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"perspective shifts" --- THAT'S the phrase I have been looking for.

I have no beefs with the 5MP sensor, but the "perspective shifts" on all the sample videos I have seen is maddening!

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I guess I had high expectations after viewing the "Rockaway Beach" video that Samsung presented. I did not realize initially that there was mechanical assistance in making the RB video that apparently masked some of the "jitters" and "perspective shifts" of the videos made with the Galaxy Nexus.
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I was hoping for smoother video:

Samsung Galaxy Nexus Full HD Video - YouTube

I guess I had high expectations after viewing the "Rockaway Beach" video that Samsung presented. I did not realize initially that there was mechanical assistance in making the RB video that apparently masked some of the "jitters" and "perspective shifts" of the videos made with the Galaxy Nexus.
I wouldn't necessarily base any decision off of this video. DRANDREW18 is a SamsungMobiler and received a phone several days before the actual release in the UK. I believe, this is a pre-release model for testing, and not the final version.
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I wouldn't necessarily base any decision off of this video. DRANDREW18 is a SamsungMobiler and received a phone several days before the actual release in the UK. I believe, this is a pre-release model for testing, and not the final version.
Unfortunately EVERY video I have seen from the GN has this issue.

It is depressing.
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I'm actually seriously disturbed at the amount of jello effect in the videos. It's almost unwatchable in full screen for me.
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jello.... hmmmmmm,,,, maybe thats the code name for the new operating system
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I can't understand why this isn't getting more press / attention.

I want to know if this is some software glitch or if there is something fundamentally wrong with the sensor.

I'm about to drop a ton of money on an unlock GSM version and this ONE thing is starting to freak me out.

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I'm not fan of taking videos with phone camera as I have good Panasonic and Sony cam for that. Especially on Gnex without micro SD, it would fill up internal memory quickly.
To me those videos seem to have some rolling shutter effect that can be corrected by firmware update. I'm not sure if that's due to IS in camera. I wonder how they do image stabilization in phone camera. Is it optical lens shifting or sensor shifting based?
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It's neither. IS in the camera is just a software effect - a simulation of IS.

And you're right, it's just rolling shutter but it's particularly bad.
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This is the "best" video yet that demonstrates the effect:

Strange Galaxy Nexus video quality issue : Android

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I can't understand why this isn't getting more press / attention.

I want to know if this is some software glitch or if there is something fundamentally wrong with the sensor.

I'm about to drop a ton of money on an unlock GSM version and this ONE thing is starting to freak me out.
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This is the "best" video yet that demonstrates the effect:

Strange Galaxy Nexus video quality issue : Android
Indeed a great example of this effect. I am also surprised that it is not discussed more. I am also very disappointed with this aspect of the Galaxy Nexus, but in spite of this issue I will still be getting the phone. For my needs, all of the other great features outweigh this very negative characteristic.
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Rarely if ever do I use my DX for video recording, and I can't imagine I would use it much on the Gnex so it's not really an issue for me. But those videos are literally nauseating >_<
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I'm actually seriously disturbed at the amount of jello effect in the videos. It's almost unwatchable in full screen for me.
It's really disappointing, especially since the clarity and color is about the best I've seen with any camera phone. But the jello makes it virtually unwatchable. Dramamine anyone?
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Hey Guys!
Did you test this application. It seems to be doing some real job: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.droikitchen.gopro

Unfortunately it is sill a beta version. But it is working for my nexus 4.
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How did you download it to your phone.
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Just installed it from the market.
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