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Old December 15th, 2011, 01:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Bad/defect screen on the Galaxy Nexus?

Hi there!

So I just picked up my Galaxy Nexus a couple of hours ago and was very excited to see how everything worked and looked.

I was especially looking forward to seeing this beautiful screen that everyone talks about.

Unfortunately I very quickly noticed some kind of pattern on the screen.

It is looks like small lines going all the way from the top to the bottom and others from side to side.
I guess you can say that the pattern looks like the one from the Burberry clothes.

The pattern stays the same no matter how you move around on the screen and where you are in the system.

It is very easy to see it. Just find a white background on the screen (a homepage etc.) and set the brightness to between 10-50%.

Another way to see it is, if you have a white background and then turn the brightness to 90-100%. Then pull down the notification bar.
The gray notification bar-area now clearly shows the pattern once again.

Can anyone please try the above and inform me if this is just my screen or if it is a common issue with this phone.

I would really appreciate your feed-back before I decide to return the phone.

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I don't notice anything on mine.


Another member here had an issue with his screen too. Diff than yours but he took it back and they gladly swapped it out. His new one is fine. You may want to go to the sore and see if the demo unit does what your describing. If it doesn't definitely ask for a new one.
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nothing on mine...i did return my first one because there was a piece of fuzz under the glass...i say take it back, you waited too long for it not to be perfect
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Yeah. Sounds like a defect to me. I tried to duplicate but couldn't. You should have no problem swapping it out.
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No banding on mine. I would exchange it.
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Default Low light = gradient banding?

In low light settings with white backgrounds i notice kind of gradient banding. Is this normal?

Its not bad. And you can only really tell on the sms page or the internet when the screen brightness is down.

I just want to make sure the unit isnt defective.
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Pretty sure I've only seen it on grey. But yes, it's there.
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Okay as long as this is normal with the phone, I can live with it. Gives it a newspaper effect.

I am not too fond with the way the system manages brightness in the autobrightness.
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Does Android still use 16-bit color?

For some reason Google downgraded Android to 16-bit color from 24-bit from Android 2.0 to 2.1. This results in banding and not as accurate color reproduction.
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Had this on the first gnex I got this morning. It came with the red yellow green blue background. I took it back bc the earpiece made everyone's voice extremely fuzzy. Definitely not tolerable.
They immediately swapped it for a new one. The new one has no banding and the earpiece sounds great during calls. It came with the phase beam live wallpaper.
I'm trying to find out if there is a difference between batches. I exchanged mine at a different verizon than I bought it from
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Yes, my gnex has it also, i thought i was going crazy at first. My fix was change the brightness to middle.
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In low light settings with white backgrounds i notice kind of gradient banding. Is this normal?

Its not bad. And you can only really tell on the sms page or the internet when the screen brightness is down.

I just want to make sure the unit isnt defective.
I have it on mine as well. As you said, on low light I can tell in sms and browser. I'm glad it's not only me, I thought I got a lemon.

I seen this on a different forum for the galaxy s2:
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If rooted, use the Voodoo Screen Tuning app, and turn to native mode instead of Samsung mode (use overlay to see background or whatever). This turns off the excessive image sharpening that samsung uses which essentially produces bands on colour transition points.
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Default Is the screen supposed to be this dim? Whites are almost gray!

Just got my galaxy nexus, and the first thing I noticed was that the auto-brightness is way too aggressive. However, even with the brightness cranked all the way up, it seems as though the screen isn't that bright.

When compared next to my droid x, the whites are almost blue/gray on the Nexus.

However, I did slap on a screen protector that came with the TPU Diztronic cases. Do you think it could be dimming the screen, or is the Nexus just like this?
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hmmmmmmmmmm

Try this................go to your browser and type into the "google search" window the word white. Choose images. Open up one of the white images and look at it while it is in partial screen. Now zoom that white image to full screen and watch it TURN GRAY !!

WOW..................this handset has a problem with displaying full screen white? Does anyone know why? Is it the Super AMOLED screen?
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It's discussed a little here: Low light = gradient banding? if you want to have a read through that.
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Default Night reading with the GN?

I'm currently on an Iphone 3GS which I switch to the lowest brightness levels when I do some bedtime reading. I've read from a few posters here that banding occurs if you set the brightness to less than 50% for the GN.

What levels of brightness do you guys lower it to when you read in the dark as you're getting ready to sleep?
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A few other users have reported the same thing and it's discussed a little here.
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I love the auto brightness it acts a lit like cyanogens when custom set how I like it. Very dim inside at night and 100% in sunlight. Amoled if you're not used to it is quite different than the older techs. And amoled varies between models/screens just as LCD does. A happy medium would be to use the power widget and adjust it on the fly how you'd like. Or set to 50% and enjoy. : )
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Merged threads together.
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I get the same effect with low brightness. Was the first thing I noticed when I got home. I still keep it on auto brightness but manually adjusting the brightness does fix the problem. And the brightness seems good to me. Even at midway I find the screen pretty bright.
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I have no trouble with the brightness of the homescreen and such, but when I go to browser/SMS/Google books or anything with a lot of white pixels, the screen becomes very dim. It seems like the more whites, the dimmer they become...

Seems like it might be an AMOLED thing.
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Mine is OK, perhaps you could give us the site you are looking at so we can see if its the site, and not the phone?
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Mine is OK, perhaps you could give us the site you are looking at so we can see if its the site, and not the phone?
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When i'm on a dark screen I see lines going down the screen that are slightly darker. They're uneven and thick lines, like if you ran your fingernail down an old calculator or something. I don't see it at all when it's on brighter screens though.
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Noticed this as well. It's only apparent at lower brightness and darker colors.
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Not seeing any sort of banding or anything...but at low brightness levels dark stuff has a reddish tint to it.
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This is just a problem with super amoled displays, there's a much longer thread over at the XDA forums on it and every single person reporst some sort of pattern, almost like a quilt when at lower brightnesses. I find it only very noticeable on gray backgrounds and some white appear yellow. But other than that it's fantastic.
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Merged threads together, sounds like the same issue with this one as well.
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can someone try to take a picture of it
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I'm really torn about whether to attempt an exchange on the phone.

Many have stated that the nature of SAMOLED is that it will have streaking on low light levels. But, it's simply impossible to know whether what I'm experiencing is acceptable levels, or too much.

The only way we can tell is to report findings to one another.

For those of you who this relates to, could we try some tests with constant variables? How about this: Turn your screen brightness to its lowest setting. Open Gmail, go to your inbox, and focus on the white background. As you scroll around, can you see a grid-like pattern in the background that does not move?

Mine is definitely there and it's much much more noticeable when I'm using the phone at night (e.g., prior to going to bed in a dark room). The grid is slightly off-kilter, so the lines are not parallel with the sides of the screen - which flares up my OCD even more.

I don't have terrible banding or color changes. Just a mostly-uniform grid that covers the entire screen.

Honestly, it's not a huge issue - especially during peak hours of use. But when I use the phone at night, it is very frustrating, as it is extremely noticeable.
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Facebooks white background looks grey and unclear on mine with brightness under 50. At 100% the screen is perfect. I was thinking about exchanging it too, but decided not to yet. If there is an issue I will wait till batch 2 comes out.
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Just got my GNex today. Seemed fine until this evening when auto brightness kicked the light down low. Then it was very obvious on both light and dark screens. The easiest place to see it is on the black "settings screen" while you adjust brightness. But I even noticed it while watching a youtube video.

I may take mine back to the store to see if they have another one to compare and possibly exchange.
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I believe this is a side effect of the pentile screen that the Nexus has.
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No evidence of this on mine at high or low light settings as far as the banding goes. At lower brightness settings the white does get a bit 'dingy' though.
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hmmmmmmmmmm

Try this................go to your browser and type into the "google search" window the word white. Choose images. Open up one of the white images and look at it while it is in partial screen. Now zoom that white image to full screen and watch it TURN GRAY !!

WOW..................this handset has a problem with displaying full screen white? Does anyone know why? Is it the Super AMOLED screen?
I have no idea what the OP or you are saying about the screen. I just did this and my display is as white as can be. I had it on autobrightness and then at max brightness and it looks just wonderful.

Perhaps there is some hardware issue with some units? IDK?

Hopefully it is software and there is a fix for it.
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hmmmmmmmmmm

Try this................go to your browser and type into the "google search" window the word white. Choose images. Open up one of the white images and look at it while it is in partial screen. Now zoom that white image to full screen and watch it TURN GRAY !!

WOW..................this handset has a problem with displaying full screen white? Does anyone know why? Is it the Super AMOLED screen?
That isnt a problem, its called auto light limiter on most tvs. What it does is dim the backlight when there is too much white on the screen. Its supposed to save power and to stop it from blinding you. I don't know how to turn it off but it has nothing to do with not being able to display white full screen haha
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That isnt a problem, its called auto light limiter on most tvs. What it does is dim the backlight when there is too much white on the screen. Its supposed to save power and to stop it from blinding you. I don't know how to turn it off but it has nothing to do with not being able to display white full screen haha
Yup I noticed this as well. For example, if you go to the google page you'll find the whites "washed out" and grey. The moment you start searching for something, the keyboard pops up, which makes only half the screen white while the bottom half is black. Instantly the backlight becomes brighter and the whites start to pop.

I'm sure you can change this with custom roms. I think I got spoiled by cm7/MIUI because on my DX, the whites are always backlit
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Just got my GNex today. Seemed fine until this evening when auto brightness kicked the light down low. Then it was very obvious on both light and dark screens. The easiest place to see it is on the black "settings screen" while you adjust brightness. But I even noticed it while watching a youtube video.

I may take mine back to the store to see if they have another one to compare and possibly exchange.
Just got back from the verizon store. Compared mine to the demo unit and one of the salesman's nexus. Mine was definitely defective. They did an exchange on the spot. I'm just glad they weren't out of them again!

So if you are seeing thick vertical bands on your screen, especially on low light settings on white or black screens.... don' be afraid to return it.
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Just got back from the verizon store. Compared mine to the demo unit and one of the salesman's nexus. Mine was definitely defective. They did an exchange on the spot. I'm just glad they weren't out of them again!

So if you are seeing thick vertical bands on your screen, especially on low light settings on white or black screens.... don' be afraid to return it.
Can you please further explain what types of problems you were having? How thick were the vertical bands? What distinguished them? Were they darker? Lighter? Were they grainy or smooth?
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Looks like I have the same problem. Will have to take it into the store to see if a new one looks better. Others have described it very well. It's most noticeable at low brightness levels. The one who suggested Googling "white" and then clicking on the images tab and picking one of the images, showed it really bad for me. I didn't even think the images were white when they first showed up. They looked like a "snowy" (poor reception) screen on an old analog TV. There's definitely some sort of stripey pattern on there, but it is not perfectly regular like a mesh would look.

At max brightness the whites look better, but look too white to the point where the edges bloom.

Maybe this is why the phone was delayed?
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I don't see the pattern on my phone. I would be really pissed if my screen was like that, because I was just starting to get bonded to this thing.
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I noticed this on day one when i got the phone but didnt know if it was just my eyes or if it was the phone..guess ill be returning mine soon cause im pretty bada ocd bout that kind of stuff...ill go crosseyed looking at the lines on my screen lol
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Old December 19th, 2011, 10:32 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I'm really torn about whether to attempt an exchange on the phone.

Many have stated that the nature of SAMOLED is that it will have streaking on low light levels. But, it's simply impossible to know whether what I'm experiencing is acceptable levels, or too much.

The only way we can tell is to report findings to one another.

For those of you who this relates to, could we try some tests with constant variables? How about this: Turn your screen brightness to its lowest setting. Open Gmail, go to your inbox, and focus on the white background. As you scroll around, can you see a grid-like pattern in the background that does not move?

Mine is definitely there and it's much much more noticeable when I'm using the phone at night (e.g., prior to going to bed in a dark room). The grid is slightly off-kilter, so the lines are not parallel with the sides of the screen - which flares up my OCD even more.

I don't have terrible banding or color changes. Just a mostly-uniform grid that covers the entire screen.

Honestly, it's not a huge issue - especially during peak hours of use. But when I use the phone at night, it is very frustrating, as it is extremely noticeable.
This is the best example of what mine looks like. I really don't care unless it's not normal. If I can go down to the store and pick up a new one I most certainly will.

Edit: Also, at lowest brightness some of the black areas turn slightly purple. At max brightness I have ZERO complaints; everything looks fine.
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I noticed this now too :/ I thought it was just an effect from the matte screen protector. I've had the brightness setting down to conserve the battery, but I raised it now and the lines went away. Only vertical lines appear when I go to a white page. Do you guys suggest that I try to get it exchanged?
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piggybacking on the "google white screen" idea... googling GREY and full screening the image in low brightness really brings it out as well..

With my phone the vertical and horizontal lines seem more visible with grey backgrounds (i.e. The market(esp when loading), any app with a grey background) its very annoying. Its not insanely bad but yes VERY annoying.. debating as well to return it back.
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I have noticed this since day 1 as well....whites an greys show a kind of cross hatching pattern on low brightness....kind of sucks but its not that bad
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I have noticed this since day 1 as well....whites an greys show a kind of cross hatching pattern on low brightness....kind of sucks but its not that bad
Yup... exactly. Its not crazy bad but very annoying and thats where I am torn like @EYC.

I want to keep my screen brightness relatively low for a lot of the time to conserve battery but I don't want to see those patterns, especially when I spent $300 on a premium device. I think its a tad unacceptable.

Beating myself up over returning or not returning because of the mindset of "this is the nature of AMOLED technology" which in and of itself is really dumb, especially for the price($$$) we pay.

You thinking about returning @LaxStar785?
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I have faint vertical bands on my screen only visible with certain color backgrounds.
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Wait till you notice the blue and purple coloration somewhere on your screen :P
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so I returned mine yesterday to Verizon and got a new Nexus. I looked at the store device and it showed the same thing... my new device still has it but it doesn't seem AS bad IMO... or its just my mind playing with me..

I am convinced this is just a side effect/defect of AMOLED. I can live with it.. it only happens with certain colors an low brightness. Still nerve racking but oh well
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