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Old May 16th, 2012, 08:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Five Months Ago Today the Galaxy Nexus was Released on Verizon, It Hasn’t Been Updated Since – Droid Life

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Old May 16th, 2012, 08:38 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Like normal, ROMs and leaks bail out VZW
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Doubtful, but maybe VZW figures since this is the "Nexus", that everyone will root and rom it, so out of spite they forgo update rollouts. Gawh now I've joined all the conspiracy theorists!

I really feel for those that have issues. Like some here have already done, I'd have switched phones in a heartbeat no matter how much I liked the GN. I am very fortunate to have 99.9% reliable phone and data services with this phone. My sister does as well.
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Good read. Probably a lot of head nods and fist pumps out there as people are reading that piece.

I'm in the same boat, I feel almost shocked that we haven't received any updates, let alone two or three by now. Really muddies the waters about the definition, or perhaps former definition, of NEXUS.
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read that article last night..... i was like thx for reminding us
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Yeah, I definitely agree with some points. But to be honest, at least we got it. Probably never see another Nexus on VZW again.
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Yeah, I definitely agree with some points. But to be honest, at least we got it. Probably never see another Nexus on VZW again.
after this one would we really want to? i wouldn't. IMO with the rumor of yesterday that Google is opening up the Nexus program and releasing mass Nexus devices this year , the Nexus meaning is even more watered down.
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after this one would we really want to?
Absolutely. Despite the fail that VZW has brought this phone on their network, I still have no desire for a bloatware-ridden, skinned android phone. The Nexus is the easiest way to avoid that. The alternative is waiting for dev support and bootloader unlocks/etc. And phones are hit or miss. Look at the Rezound and the amazingly dysfunctional userbase and dev community there. People who bought the Rezound hoping for an eventual AOSP-based ROM are very disappointed right now I'm sure.
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after this one would we really want to? i wouldn't. IMO with the rumor of yesterday that Google is opening up the Nexus program and releasing mass Nexus devices this year , the Nexus meaning is even more watered down.
I can't relate to your frustrations with the GN, but I do hope VZ does get another Nexus device.
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With the "delayed" launch of the device and second hand treatment the phone was getting, I wasn't really upset (or surprised) that S/W updates have not occurred. I bought the phone mainly for the ease of development and customization. Feel bad for those experiencing issues tho. :/ The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say VZW is behind this to make the G-Nex look bad and the other Android phones look awesome in comparison lol

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IMO, releasing more devices wouldn't water down the Nexus meaning. However, I do believe VZW approach to the G-Nex has hampered perceptions of what to expect from a Nexus device. I don't forsee VZW getting another device because of this. I wanted to say only the GSM devices are getting timely updates, but Sprint has been fairly prompt with updates as well.
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That was what I suspected too. I think VZW could have treated Gnex better if they wanted. But probably they were not so interested in that. So I'm not sure if they will do next Nexus again.

As for new Nexus program news, I think it's good approach if true. Just not sure how that will play with CDMA carriers like verizon/sprint.
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Well, to be fair they haven't released an update, it was just released with 4.0.4 and I doubt Sprint does nearly the amount of anal testing that VZW does.
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Well, to be fair they haven't released an update, it was just released with 4.0.4 and I doubt Sprint does nearly the amount of anal testing that VZW does.
Ah sorry, I should have noted their existing support for the Nexus S. I also don't think they do as much testing, but I have a few friends with the Nexus S and their ICS update went smooth.
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Ah sorry, I should have noted their existing support for the Nexus S. I also don't think they do as much testing, but I have a few friends with the Nexus S and their ICS update went smooth.
Ohh! ok. Yeah I have no idea about the One S But hopefully for the Sprint gnex owners, they are as timely with the gnex as they were with the One S.
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That was what I suspected too. I think VZW could have treated Gnex better if they wanted. But probably they were not so interested in that. So I'm not sure if they will do next Nexus again.

As for new Nexus program news, I think it's good approach if true. Just not sure how that will play with CDMA carriers like verizon/sprint.
i think a lot of people are forgetting that part. Because of the licensed radio files more than likely VZW will be left out this first round. If not then the updates will be just as slow as they have been for the GNex.
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If they really do this soon, I don't see much point of staying with VZW. That is if other carriers are serving your area fine. Next GSM nexus is looking more likely for me.

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If they really do this soon, I don't see much point of staying with VZW. That is if other carriers are serving your area fine. Next GSM nexus is looking more likely for me.

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I read this as well and my thoughts are the same as yours.
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If they really do this soon, I don't see much point of staying with VZW. That is if other carriers are serving your area fine. Next GSM nexus is looking more likely for me.
Ditto.
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If they really do this soon, I don't see much point of staying with VZW. That is if other carriers are serving your area fine. Next GSM nexus is looking more likely for me.

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Yep. My patience with vzw was a function of still having my unlimited data. The grass is starting to look greener by the day on the other side.
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If it's true, bye bye verizon.......
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If they really do this soon, I don't see much point of staying with VZW. That is if other carriers are serving your area fine. Next GSM nexus is looking more likely for me.

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Yeah but if we got the gsm version, wouldn't we have to pay the full price, around $600, rather than Verizon's subsidized price? I got my gnex for $150 at launch through amazon. I like timely updates, but I don't regret paying an additional $450 to get an update. With google, opening up the nexus line to multiple manufacturers at a time, I'm hoping it does leave verizon, or at least verizon isn't the only initial launch device available.
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With the lack of updates and the lost of my unlimited data in the near future, I see no reason to stay with Verizon. Unless if by some extremely rare chance, they receive another Nexus device (something I highly doubt with the way they have been treating the G-nex)
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If they really do this soon, I don't see much point of staying with VZW. That is if other carriers are serving your area fine. Next GSM nexus is looking more likely for me.

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Wow. Just.... wow. I don't use a whole lot of data but it's the principle of the thing.
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everyone saying they will leave VZW because of unlimited data...I assume you're going to Sprint?

Sprint may have unlimited data now but i am willing to bet anything that after they realize that all the other companies can do it then they will to. It may be a year down the road but it will happen imo.
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everyone saying they will leave VZW because of unlimited data...I assume you're going to Sprint?

Sprint may have unlimited data now but i am willing to bet anything that after they realize that all the other companies can do it then they will to. It may be a year down the road but it will happen imo.
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I'm going to bitch and whine because I can, but when push comes to shove, I'll stay with VZW because at least for me their network is much more reliable then others
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everyone saying they will leave VZW because of unlimited data...I assume you're going to Sprint?

Sprint may have unlimited data now but i am willing to bet anything that after they realize that all the other companies can do it then they will to. It may be a year down the road but it will happen imo.
Not to mention no LTE right now and their 3G network is S**T.
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well everyone has a right to be upset and voice their opinion. By any means i'm all for that. I'm just trying to be realistic in the fact that leaving VZW may not be the best option for "some" people. Me included.
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Yeah but if we got the gsm version, wouldn't we have to pay the full price, around $600, rather than Verizon's subsidized price? I got my gnex for $150 at launch through amazon. I like timely updates, but I don't regret paying an additional $450 to get an update. With google, opening up the nexus line to multiple manufacturers at a time, I'm hoping it does leave verizon, or at least verizon isn't the only initial launch device available.
Google is now selling GSM galaxy nexus for 399 at Play store. That's right in between full retail and subsidized pricing. If they continue to do similar pricing for new GSM nexus, then it's very attractive option for those in GSM covered areas.

It's not just verizon's plan to get rid of unlimited data. There are several reasons why I consider leaving them after current Gnex. I know that at&t might be just as evil as VZW and heard many horror stories about their customer service. But their coverage on my area is decent and I like the fact that I can use unlocked GSM phone on their network as soon as it goes on sale. That's simply impossible with verizon.

That's just my thought now and I understand that you can't leave VZW if they are the only wireless carrier with decent coverage in your area.
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If you are leaving for sprint make sure you get a 30 trial before getting locked in. Sprint sent us 2 femtocells free of charge for our office because their coverage is so awful. We are located near downtown San Diego in a 12 story building.

I stay with Verizon for the coverage and deal with the crappy phone choices and update schedule.

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Coverage is a very specific for everyone. One man's great coverage = one man's crappy coverage.

For that reason alone I will leave VZ. I was a sprint customer for 12 years in northern CA. I switched for the nexus. In the 5 years with sprint, my 3g data was very consistent and my calls rarely ever dropped. I can't remember the last time it did.

On vz, 4g is pretty useless. I do get bursts of 10-15 minutes of 4g and then no signal. 3g is mostly ok but I very much notice dropped data a few times/month. Lets not also forget the 3 national outages they have had in the last 6 months. All this and about 20% more expensive than my sprint plan. So I'm definitely not getting my moneys worth.

So on top of all that, the way GN is handled. Its a no brainer for me to drop them. Of course 18 months is a long ways off. but I'm usually pretty good about making a clean break with poor customer relations.
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