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Old October 29th, 2012, 12:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Lg nexus 4 will cost $299 off contract for 8 GB and $399 for 16 GB. Who will sell their Gnex for the Nexus 4?

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Old October 29th, 2012, 12:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nexus 4 is $349 for 16Gb off contract, not $399. They already removed Galaxy Nexus from Play store. That's surprising, I thought it will be up there at least 5~6 more months.
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Does the Nexus 4 have a notification light?
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On paper the LG looks better, but I will hold on to my Galaxy Nexus. I have always preferred Samsung hardware to LG and I don't think that the LG improvements are mind blowing...

Camera:
8MP sounds 60% better than 5MP. But if you understand digital photography, you know the sensors can vary the quality of the picture greatly.

Quad-core vs. dual-core:
Just cause there are four processors does not mean they are being used properly. The developers have to write the apps to use all four processors effectively and I have not read that this is the case too often.

2GB RAM and 16GB of memory:
Score one for LG

LG with a bigger and better screen:
Point to LG, but can I really tell the difference?

cnet review not exactly glowing:
LG Nexus 4 - Cell Phones - CNET Reviews
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That sucks! I was getting ready to buy the nexus. How am I supposed to buy it now? I mean the nexus 4 won't be out for weeks now plus when it does come out it will be even longer before it can be rooted and have roms. So where am I supposed to buy a new nexus now? Or does anyone know when the new one will be for sale?
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Never mind, looks like I'll be getting the 4 since it's the same price. Hopefully roms will come fast. This is the phone I wanted anyways but I thought it would be expensive. I'm glad I waited.

Edit: does the 4 have expandable memory?
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That sucks! I was getting ready to buy the nexus. How am I supposed to buy it now? I mean the nexus 4 won't be out for weeks now plus when it does come out it will be even longer before it can be rooted and have roms. So where am I supposed to buy a new nexus now? Or does anyone know when the new one will be for sale?
Why does this suck? You were going to buy the Galaxy Nexus, but now its predecessor is officially announced and starts at a very similar price point to what the Gnex was selling for on Play. That sounds like a great thing, I'd be thrilled that I hadn't pulled the trigger. You can wait a month or so, get the phone via Google Play, and I imagine that it will be rooted and running custom roms very quickly, being a Nexus device. The Galaxy Nexus has an incredible dev community, I'm sure this phone will have the same. Be happy, I'd love to have this phone!

Having said that, I see no reason to trade up. Most of the cool features announced will be coming to the Gnex via 4.2. Wireless charging and some of the other cool hardware features are great, but its not a phone to jump to from the Gnex. Am I the only one these days that still thinks it's wise to skip a generation and not trade up once a year? I am on Verizon though, so maybe I'm just bitter I'm not given the option to purchase off Play.
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Yeah I'm super stoked I didn't get it. I thought the 4 would cost much more but it's the same price and it says it comes out on the 13th so that's not too far.
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On paper the LG looks better, but I will hold on to my Galaxy Nexus. I have always preferred Samsung hardware to LG and I don't think that the LG improvements are mind blowing...

Camera:
8MP sounds 60% better than 5MP. But if you understand digital photography, you know the sensors can vary the quality of the picture greatly.

Quad-core vs. dual-core:
Just cause there are four processors does not mean they are being used properly. The developers have to write the apps to use all four processors effectively and I have not read that this is the case too often.

2GB RAM and 16GB of memory:
Score one for LG

LG with a bigger and better screen:
Point to LG, but can I really tell the difference?

cnet review not exactly glowing:
LG Nexus 4 - Cell Phones - CNET Reviews
How about the LG has Gorillia Glass 2.

The LG has glass on the back which would be better build quality then the plastic on the back of the GNexus.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 02:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Never mind, looks like I'll be getting the 4 since it's the same price. Hopefully roms will come fast. This is the phone I wanted anyways but I thought it would be expensive. I'm glad I waited.

Edit: does the 4 have expandable memory?
No expandable memory.
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That's ok. How about the screen? What is wxga ips and how does it compare to super amoled. Can't wait to get this phone!
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On paper the LG looks better, but I will hold on to my Galaxy Nexus. I have always preferred Samsung hardware to LG and I don't think that the LG improvements are mind blowing...

Camera:
8MP sounds 60% better than 5MP. But if you understand digital photography, you know the sensors can vary the quality of the picture greatly.

Quad-core vs. dual-core:
Just cause there are four processors does not mean they are being used properly. The developers have to write the apps to use all four processors effectively and I have not read that this is the case too often.

2GB RAM and 16GB of memory:
Score one for LG

LG with a bigger and better screen:
Point to LG, but can I really tell the difference?
I know that pixel numbers don't mean much for picture quality as lens quality, sensor size, software. From what I saw, LG's camera in Optimus G is on par with GS3 which Gnex is hopeless to come close to.

Regarding processor, I agree that number of cores doesn't mean the twice performance yet. But the Adreno 320 GPU on S4 pro chip is 2~3 times more powerful than SGX540 GPU in Gnex. So that's big deal for gaming, graphics intensive apps.
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I'll just stick to my Galaxy Nexus. It will eventually get 4.2.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 02:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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What is it with the industry and moving away from physical storage!?!? Honestly, I love the convenience of the cloud, and couldn't see myself without it, but I like on device storage. I know Google and everyone else thinks we are always connected, but in the real world, sometimes we are not, and for those times having my music pinned means I can listen to it or I can enjoy it without lag. Just saying.

The Nexus 4 looks sweet, but I won't upgrade just yet.

I'm ready to root. Heeeeey 4.2 how you doin!?
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WEll, since I am on Verizon, guess which one I choose
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How about the LG has Gorillia Glass 2.

The LG has glass on the back which would be better build quality then the plastic on the back of the GNexus.
Gorilla Glass:
Not being a smart ass here, I apologize if it sounds like it....What is wrong with the Galaxy Nexus glass? Is Gorilla Glass significantly better?
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/17/no-gorilla-glass-on-the-galaxy-nexus-no-worries-survives-key-scratch-test-with-flying-colors/

Glass on back:
Nice aesthetic! But I keep all my phones in a case. So this would not matter to me. And it reminds me of the iphone4 and how slippery it was with two sides of glass.

Don't get me wrong. If I was buying a Nexus today I would not pause at all to buy this one. I just have had better success with Samsung in the past and I don't see any huge leaps forward here that will make me super jealous of Nexus 4 owners. Slightly jealous. Not super.
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I'll just stick to my Galaxy Nexus. It will eventually get 4.2.
Yup... poor me.. Im on VZW and I doubt i'll see a non-LTE Nexus 4 on big red, so im sticking with the Gnex. Not like 4.2 is mind altering anyhow.
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Gorilla Glass:
Not being a smart ass here, I apologize if it sounds like it....What is wrong with the Galaxy Nexus glass? Is Gorilla Glass significantly better?
No Gorilla Glass on the Galaxy Nexus, No Worries – Survives Key Scratch Test with Flying Colors – Droid Life

Glass on back:
Nice aesthetic! But I keep all my phones in a case. So this would not matter to me. And it reminds me of the iphone4 and how slippery it was with two sides of glass.

Don't get me wrong. If I was buying a Nexus today I would not pause at all to buy this one. I just have had better success with Samsung in the past and I don't see any huge leaps forward here that will make me super jealous of Nexus 4 owners. Slightly jealous. Not super.
The Gorillia Glass 2 is 20% thinner then then the first. So I would assume its also 20% thinner then what Samsung used. The touchscreen is also inside the glass now just like the iPhone 5 so you you get better touch response.
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Does anyone know how the screens compare? Not the glass but the screens...
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Yeah, I am rooted, unlocked, and ROM'med, so I will get 4.2 fairly quickly I am sure. Definitely won't depend on Verizon to get that!
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Does anyone know how the screens compare? Not the glass but the screens...
GNexus : 4.65 inch screen 720 x 1280 (316 PPI)
Amoled HD

Nexus 4: 4.7 inch screen 768 x 1280(320 PPI)
IPS screen

And we finally got Bluetooth 4.0!
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I mean how does ips compare to super amoled? I hope this phone doesn't sell out the first day!
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I mean how does ips compare to super amoled? I hope this phone doesn't sell out the first day!
Depends on the species of IPS. The IPS panel on the One X is brighter, crisper and more color accurate (all at once) than any display out there.

How this one will fare will depend on a number of factors but the potential is there.
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I'll be ordering a 16gb N4 as soon as possible to replace my GSN GN.
Why?
1. Gorilla Glass - I've managed to pickup some minor marks on my screen that I cannot unsee despite being a careful owner.
2. Wireless charging - I use a device independent dock for the bedside at home but rely on a cable at work. I've come close to damaging the port a few times when plugging / unplugging in a rush.

16gb isn't an issue for me. With enough music for use at work and 120 apps installed I have 3+GB free at the moment.
LTE isn't an issue either as it will be years before it's rolled out near me in the UK.
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Glad the details are all out and I can make a decision. I'm staying with my GNex. The big thing for me was LTE compatibility which we aren't getting. The upgraded hardware is nice, no doubt but I don't think its worth me returning my GNex by this Friday and being without a phone for 2 and a half weeks.
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Not sure why everyone still complains about no SD card. don't you guys read the news?

SD cards use fat formatting, this is patented by Microsoft, this is one of the main patents Microsoft got the Android handset manufacturers on for patent infringement. Google devices cannot infringe on others patents, nor use any that require licensing. To do so would require Google to charge others to use Android, making it no longer free.

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Wasnt there going to be several Nexus devices. 1 from sony, samsung, htc and lg? Im sure i read that somewhere. Overall im disappoint in the lg as i was looking forward to the next best thing but its just as good as what i already have. Im not sure what i will be upgrading too next july.
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I'm kinda new to this but on average how soon can you start pre ordering these? And do you think they will sell out the first day?
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But to be fair, the CNet "reviewer" has clearly had no more contact with the real device than I have
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no 4G, end of dicussion.
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Im still happy with galaxy nexus after 3 month of use. LG Nexus seems like a cool phone but ts not going to make user experience better or worse. I dont play games so quad isn't important.. The phone still rocks!!! But i will try to get rid of it for 300 if there is fool whos going to buy it ill get that LG
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2nd, no LTE is a skip.
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Keep in mind this is global version, so no LTE radio is understandable to me. It may seem like trivial now. But it's very difficult to make LTE radio compatible with all the network carriers around the world with different LTE frequencies. It's got 42Mbps HSPA+ instead. I believe carrier specific LTE version will follow some time later and hope Verizon is one of them.

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I'd probably try to get it if it was LTE.

Is it me, or is that a pretty cheap price for a brand new phone, off contract? We may be approaching a golden age where we don't have to sell our souls for a new phone. I could consantly get a new one, and move the "hand me downs" through the family (wife and three kids).
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The reasoning behind no LTE was problems with the battery life. Whelp, the Razr Maxx HD is whole .2mm thicker and has no problems with sustaining plenty of battery life.
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For those of us that don't need to download gigs and gigs at lightning fast speeds on a phone of all things and don't want to pay upwards of 100 a month, hspa+42 is perfect. Just saying...
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I still can't believe that Moto seems to have a monopoly with massive stock batteries. I am strongly considering a MAXX as my next phone so I don't have to worry about battery life.
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Keep in mind this is global version, so no LTE radio is understandable to me. It may seem like trivial now. But it's very difficult to make LTE radio compatible with all the network carriers around the world with different LTE frequencies. It's got 42Mbps HSPA+ instead. I believe carrier specific LTE version will follow some time later and hope Verizon is one of them.

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For those of us that don't need to download gigs and gigs at lightning fast speeds on a phone of all things and don't want to pay upwards of 100 a month, hspa+42 is perfect. Just saying...
Actually, per the Play store, the Nexus 4 is only HSPA+ 21. Some are saying that the T-Mobile version, sold in T-Mobile stores, will be HSPA+ 42 (based on the press release saying it will work on T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 Network).
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On paper the LG looks better, but I will hold on to my Galaxy Nexus. I have always preferred Samsung hardware to LG and I don't think that the LG improvements are mind blowing...

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8MP sounds 60% better than 5MP. But if you understand digital photography, you know the sensors can vary the quality of the picture greatly.

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Just cause there are four processors does not mean they are being used properly. The developers have to write the apps to use all four processors effectively and I have not read that this is the case too often.

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Score one for LG

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Point to LG, but can I really tell the difference?

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There aren't actually 4 processors...
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Actually, per the Play store, the Nexus 4 is only HSPA+ 21. Some are saying that the T-Mobile version, sold in T-Mobile stores, will be HSPA+ 42 (based on the press release saying it will work on T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 Network).
I just read somewhere, can't remember where, that it is +42. Sorry can't remember where. And not just TMobile version. Even if it is +21 that is TMobile version of 4g and I've heard it's pretty fast...for those of us that don't download huge files was stated before and don't want to take out a loan to pay for the next 2 years.

Edit: sorry I sound like a prick. If you're already on Verizon and have lte I can understand why you wouldn't want this phone. But I haven't used lte so I'm not jaded yet. I probably wouldn't go back either.

Edit 2: here is just one of the a articles that says it is 42. This week's sidebar poll: Are you buying a new Nexus? | Android Central
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The reasoning behind no LTE was problems with the battery life. Whelp, the Razr Maxx HD is whole .2mm thicker and has no problems with sustaining plenty of battery life.
Battery life was just one of them, but not the major reason I think. Probably the main thing was issues with dealing with CDMA carriers due to their proprietary radio and controlling every software on it.

As for Maxx HD, it's not just its massive 3300mAh battery but also much lower power consumption from 28nm S4 chip that makes great battery life. So going forward, I don't think battery drain from LTE radio will be big issue like it was before.
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So I want to use straight talk TMobile sim with this phone. does anyone know what kind of sim the nexus4 takes? Straight talk doesn't have a micro sim for TMobile... I hope it's not a micro sim.
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There aren't actually 4 processors...
I agree, it's important to watch semantics.

There are 4 Krait cpu cores on a single SoC (system on (a) chip) processor.

Efficiency of that is governed by the kernel task scheduling efficiency as well as the parallelism (threading) incorporated by apps. Some apps can be distributed in a parallel fashion, some can't.

Either way, the S4 Pro processor is no slouch.

Will everyone see the difference? Not really, as we all know, our mileage varies for each of us.
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Are we gonna get 4.2?
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I agree, it's important to watch semantics.

There are 4 Krait cpu cores on a single SoC (system on (a) chip) processor.

Efficiency of that is governed by the kernel task scheduling efficiency as well as the parallelism (threading) incorporated by apps. Some apps can be distributed in a parallel fashion, some can't.

Either way, the S4 Pro processor is no slouch.

Will everyone see the difference? Not really, as we all know, our mileage varies for each of us.
Yeah, just wanted to put the misconception out there as many people think quad core or dual core means there are 4 processors
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Yeah, just wanted to put the misconception out there as many people think quad core or dual core means there are 4 processors
Yeah, there are and there aren't.
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