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Old December 31st, 2012, 08:42 AM   #351 (permalink)
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I'm very happy with the Screen Protector that comes with Nillkin case. $10 shipped from eBay.

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Just wondering, has anybody seen their screen protector go bad while being outside in a cold? Spent about 5min outside today using my Note2 while it was just about 20degC; now I see some swirly pattern under my screen protector. Hardly noticeable with a screen on, but when it's off I can see it really well. Almost like that sticky substance on a screen side got all funky, and its permanent since I have been inside where its warm for a few hours now and it hasn't changed. Of course, I'm just accounting this due to a cheap material on my $0.50 eBay screen protector (which so far has been great, up until being in the cold).

Anybody else seen this, with either cheapo or brand/quality screen protectors? Its hard to describe, but it does look like a swirly oily pattern all over the screen protector on the side facing the glass display of the phone.
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Never had that happen before. Spring weather using a screen protector never produced an effect you described. But I've always used 'quality' protectors. Even in cold temps for a few minutes never caused any issues with the protectors I used.

Though I did see one where it had a circular pattern resembling a water ripple once. But that was with a cheap screen protector that cane with the phone. But nothing like a swirl.
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Nope i havent seen that before but as the person above me said, i only use quality screen protectors. Spigen is my company of choice when it comes to screen protectors. I stay away from all the ebay ones and cheap ones.
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Agreed, that was a defective screen protector. With eBay purchases you always take a risk and never know the quality you get, although sometime you can get a diamond in the rough (I still have eBay screen protector on my old Droid X after 2.5 years and its perfect). Out of that pack of 3-protectors for Note 2, I found 2 to be defective, while the last one seems to be OK. Just applied it, went on perfectly from the first try. Will give it a shot tomorrow morning when temperatures are down to 20s again

Btw, in my experience dealing with eBay purchases, most of the sellers will refund you money if you explain the problem and/or provide pictures/details to support your claim.
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I got this pack of iSmooth protectors. It feels just like a naked screen and the S-Pen works perfectly with it. The only minor gripes are that it's a dry application so it's kind of a PITA to put on without dust getting under it and getting it aligned perfectly. Also, they don't reach all the way to the edge of the face, but if you have a decent case on it, it shouldn't be noticeable since they overlap on the face a little (like my Seidio case does).
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I ordered some cheap screen protectors on eBay for a 1.99 surprisingly the quality of them is extremely good I was able to put my first 1 on with not a single bubbles on screen also no orange peel that I have seen yet. I also ordered a spigen that I will put on once this one fails. Also the pen works well with these and I've not scratched it yet. I will not post a link but will provide a ss of the product and seller





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Just wondering, has anybody seen their screen protector go bad while being outside in a cold? Spent about 5min outside today using my Note2 while it was just about 20degC; now I see some swirly pattern under my screen protector. Hardly noticeable with a screen on, but when it's off I can see it really well. Almost like that sticky substance on a screen side got all funky, and its permanent since I have been inside where its warm for a few hours now and it hasn't changed. Of course, I'm just accounting this due to a cheap material on my $0.50 eBay screen protector (which so far has been great, up until being in the cold).

Anybody else seen this, with either cheapo or brand/quality screen protectors? Its hard to describe, but it does look like a swirly oily pattern all over the screen protector on the side facing the glass display of the phone.
There is a good chance that you still had water residue from installation that simply froze under the protector
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Water residue? Most of these are dry applications. Just an adhesive on the protector that sticks to the screen. No water or liquid needed. Maybe to clean the screen before application, but that's it. I actually prefer dry applications.
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Just wondering, has anybody seen their screen protector go bad while being outside in a cold? Spent about 5min outside today using my Note2 while it was just about 20degC; now I see some swirly pattern under my screen protector. Hardly noticeable with a screen on, but when it's off I can see it really well. Almost like that sticky substance on a screen side got all funky, and its permanent since I have been inside where its warm for a few hours now and it hasn't changed. Of course, I'm just accounting this due to a cheap material on my $0.50 eBay screen protector (which so far has been great, up until being in the cold).

Anybody else seen this, with either cheapo or brand/quality screen protectors? Its hard to describe, but it does look like a swirly oily pattern all over the screen protector on the side facing the glass display of the phone.
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Water residue? Most of these are dry applications. Just an adhesive on the protector that sticks to the screen. No water or liquid needed. Maybe to clean the screen before application, but that's it. I actually prefer dry applications.
I still use applicator liquid even on dry ones just because it doesn't usually hurt anything but helps with alignment a ton, im sure other do too.

The one i posted above was the very first dry apply protector ive done thats gone on perfect with no liquid.
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I still use applicator liquid even on dry ones just because it doesn't usually hurt anything but helps with alignment a ton, im sure other do too.

The one i posted above was the very first dry apply protector ive done thats gone on perfect with no liquid.
Using a liquid is not safe for your phone. There is a reason they made dry application screen protectors. I had a zagg on my original Motorola Droid and I was having a problem with it. I took it into Verizon and they said normally they aren't allowed to replace phones that have wet apply screen protectors on them due to it messing things up. They did replace it for me but told me if I went to put another one on my new phone I should remove it before going back in for a replacement.

I only recommend applying screen protectors without liquid. I know you are going to do what you wanna do and that's fine but I just figured I would give a friendly heads up and possibly save others from messing up their phones just to make applying a screen protector easier.
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I went through 2 more screen protectors in a day (from the same eBay vendor), and all have the same failure mechanism. Once I go from "warm" to "cold" environment, these screens get all swirly-oily underneath. It can't be condensation because I'm not going from cold to warm, therefore its not a moisture build up. But something is affecting the sticky stuff on the side of the screen protector facing the display.

@rexxcastle, with those screen protectors you just got off eBay, were you able to go outside into cold (although I'm not sure if you are on East coast like me) and has everything been OK?

..update: OMG, as it turned out, every time I've seen this swirly-oily effect was when I get to work where I have fluorescent lights. D@mn!!! Its an effect I see ONLY under fluorescent lights!!! In a natural day light or under regular light bulbs its all OK. Weird, uh? I guess whatever material is used in these protectors reflects fluorescent light in a weird way. I can live with that, cause other than that these screen protectors are perfectly cut, thick enough, crystal clear, and feel like a glass. Just a crappy swirly effect I have to live with under those fluorescent lights
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My spigen olephobics finally showed up today, let them warm up from the mailbox, then built up enough courage to put one on. After I got the thing lined up enough for my tastes I'm pretty happy with it.
I just got mine today and installed them. Looks awesome. Super clear, doesn't feel like there is anything there. S-Pen still works perfectly. I'm pretty happy at the moment.
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Can you guys with Spigen olephobics screen protector PLEASE confirm for me if you see a weird rainbow/swirly effect under the fluorescent lights? I just googled this problem and found it to be common with a lot of different (cheap) screen protectors, like I have now. Just would like to confirm if it still exists (probably not) with Spigen one.
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Can you guys with Spigen olephobics screen protector PLEASE confirm for me if you see a weird rainbow/swirly effect under the fluorescent lights? I just googled this problem and found it to be common with a lot of different (cheap) screen protectors, like I have now. Just would like to confirm if it still exists (probably not) with Spigen one.
I have Spigen Ultra Oleophobic. I have no such problems like the ones you describe. It looks fine under fluorescent lighting at work. At home I have 2 fluorescent tubes, CFCs and LED bulbs. No incandescent. Still displays like naked screen. No odd effects with it.
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I have Spigen Ultra Oleophobic. I have no such problems like the ones you describe. It looks fine under fluorescent lighting at work. At home I have 2 fluorescent tubes, CFCs and LED bulbs. No incandescent. Still displays like naked screen. No odd effects with it.
Yep. I'm looking at mine right now under fluorescent lights at work and it looks perfect.
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I'm almost there with you guys lol!!! Decided to give one more shot with that eBay screen protector posted by rexxcastle above (6 for $1.99, shipped from NJ). Once I get it next week and probably see the same problem (although, miracles do happen), I will just buy Spigen Über protector!!!

One more question, if decide to splurge on Otterbox Defender (still considering), would there be an issue with Spigen screen protector and plastic screen cover? I could have swear watching someone's YT review where they claimed response delay due to interference between screen protector and Defender's screen cover.
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One more question, if decide to splurge on Otterbox Defender (still considering), would there be an issue with Spigen screen protector and plastic screen cover? I could have swear watching someone's YT review where they claimed response delay due to interference between screen protector and Defender's screen cover.
I don't own a Defender. I posted a pic of my Note and Note 2 with Otterbox Commuter cases on them earlier.

I've read where there is already an issue between the Defender SP and naked screen. There is a small gap between the SP and actual screen which affects touch and S-Pen responses. I would think an additional SP may indeed further interfere with input response from either touch or S-Pen. I also heard some mention it's easy to remove/peel the screen protector off the Defender. Though if they're doing that, might as well settle with a cheaper Commuter case. Unless they want the belt holster (which the Commuter lacks).
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Just so you guys can see what I'm talking about, here is a shot of my phone screen at work under fluorescent lights. Once you step outside under natural light or at home under regular light bulbs - it looks as good as Spigen I actually found a lot of people complaining on-line about similar swirly-rainbow effects under fluorescent lights, even with some other premium screen protectors (although, not Spigen). Like I mentioned before, I gave one more shot with eBay order (they usually refund you back if it doesn't work as expected), and once that experiment fails - will order Spigen.

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Just got this today from MobC

MobC Smasung Galaxy Note 2/N7100 Screen Protector HD Film - Fine Crystal[2-Pack] | eBay


Stuck it on, nice cut, leaves about a 3mm gap around the edge cause of the curved surface of the screen.

Comes supplied with all you need to fit and remove any dust particles.

Stuck on straight perfectly, no bubbles no dust, looks perfect at the moment.

Feels nice, not as nice as the bare screen, but good enough for a screen sticker.

Notice a tiny bit of rainbowing reflection, but only when the screen is off!


I'll report back in a few weeks time if my opinion changes however
It's been about a month, and the screen sticker is still like new. I can highly recommend these particular screen stickers!
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I have Spigen Ultra Oleophobic. I have no such problems like the ones you describe. It looks fine under fluorescent lighting at work. At home I have 2 fluorescent tubes, CFCs and LED bulbs. No incandescent. Still displays like naked screen. No odd effects with it.
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Yep. I'm looking at mine right now under fluorescent lights at work and it looks perfect.
Me 3. I'm under fluorescent lights for 11-12 hours a day at work. Never seen that ever. That's so odd, especially after looking at the pic that was posted.
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Just so you guys can see what I'm talking about, here is a shot of my phone screen at work under fluorescent lights. Once you step outside under natural light or at home under regular light bulbs - it looks as good as Spigen I actually found a lot of people complaining on-line about similar swirly-rainbow effects under fluorescent lights, even with some other premium screen protectors (although, not Spigen). Like I mentioned before, I gave one more shot with eBay order (they usually refund you back if it doesn't work as expected), and once that experiment fails - will order Spigen.

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I've got the Spigen Ultra Nano screen protector for the Galaxy S3 installed on my phone and I can see a similar adhesion pattern/effect under certain light with the screen off sometimes, though its not a worry of mine.

You probably won't see this pattern when you buy the Spigen Ultra screen protector for your Note 2, as the material is thicker and more rigid than their Ultra Nano line. My point here is that the adhesion pattern effects companies no matter what their perceived value/quality is or where it was purchased from. Spigen is not inherently immune to issues. It has to do with a product's attributes and install and not the companies name or make up. And reminder that there is no Über company/protector out there (yeah I know you were joking around when you said that one). If you like the ebay purchased protector, and it is doing its job try to ignore the pattern since it is mostly only noticeable with the screen off under certain light, and stick it out. Don't needlessly buy new screen protectors or base your purchase off of a company's brand name, outwardly perceived value, or hyped product. The fact that a certain protector was purchased on ebay or that another company calls themselves premium shouldn't really be a factor
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Wow...im suffering from information overload on this thread. I've got a Otterbox Commuter and a Samsung protective + case to decide between the two to protect my precious new Note 2. I had a generic screen protector I got from Costco with accessory pack and although I had to trim it, it did its job, protect my screen up until it took a dive in bathtub.

Im confused at the difference between the screens that are crystal or oleophopic, whats the difference? I want a screen protector that doesnt' inhibit the touch screens ability to be used and isn't so thick that I can feel it on the edge of my fingers and covers as much of the screen as possible so the Otterbox case covers the edges to keep it from getting dirt.

I don't abuse my phones, I treat them gingerly but I will be putting it into my pocket alot and using it when my hands may not be entirely clean. I don't care if I have to wipe down the screen frequently, im used to that, its a small price to pay to protect my $700 screen IMO and I don't want one that distorts the screen/colors like those gawd awful ZAGG protectors do.

I wanna order my protector tomorroo it will be here this week so I can put it on my replacement Note 2 due my first one with stuck pixels and my Commuter Otterbox will be here


So should I do the MobC for my needs?

Amazon.com: MobC Galaxy Note 2 / N7100 Screen Protector HD Film - 99.9% Clarity Japanese Film - Retail Packaging - Fine Crystal [2-Pack]: Cell Phones & Accessories



Or go with the Spigen? I Don't like that it doesn't protect the lenses according to a users pictures of the product

Amazon.com: SPIGEN SGP Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Screen Protector Clear Steinheil [Ultra Oleophobic] [2-PACK] for Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, International - Galaxy Note II / N7100 - Oil Resistant / CLEAR: Cell Phones & Accessories

Amazon.com: MobC Galaxy Note 2 / N7100 Screen Protector HD Film - 99.9% Clarity Japanese Film - Retail Packaging - Fine Crystal [2-Pack]: Cell Phones & Accessories



Anyone tried the ISmooth? Seems like the reviews on it are better all around

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Screen-Protector/dp/B00AGABISW/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
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Some more reading tells me that the Olephopic from Spigen would be best as people say it attracts less fingerprints and allows the S-pen to work without issues vs the Ultra clear versions and NOT covering the optics is meant to prevent messing up the proximity sensors and camera lens so I can understand that.


So unless anyone has another suggestion or reasons I shouldn't get the Olephopic version for Spigen, i'll order one tomorrow

Amazon.com: SPIGEN SGP Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Screen Protector Clear Steinheil [Ultra Oleophobic] [2-PACK] for Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, International - Galaxy Note II / N7100 - Oil Resistant / CLEAR: Cell Phones & Accessories
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Wow...I'm suffering from information overload on this thread. I've got a Otterbox Commuter and a Samsung protective + case to decide between the two to protect my precious new Note 2. I had a generic screen protector I got from Costco with accessory pack and although I had to trim it, it did its job, protect my screen up until it took a dive in bathtub.

I'm confused at the difference between the screens that are Crystal or Oleophopic, whats the difference? I want a screen protector that doesn't inhibit the touch screens ability to be used and isn't so thick that I can feel it on the edge of my fingers and covers as much of the screen as possible so the Otterbox case covers the edges to keep it from getting dirt.

I don't abuse my phones, I treat them gingerly but I will be putting it into my pocket alot and using it when my hands may not be entirely clean. I don't care if I have to wipe down the screen frequently, I'm used to that, its a small price to pay to protect my $700 screen IMO and I don't want one that distorts the screen/colors like those gawd awful ZAGG protectors do.

I wanna order my protector tomorrow it will be here this week so I can put it on my replacement Note 2 due my first one with stuck pixels and my Commuter Otterbox will be here


So should I do the MobC for my needs?

Or go with the Spigen? I Don't like that it doesn't protect the lenses according to a users pictures of the product

Anyone tried the ISmooth? Seems like the reviews on it are better all around
Spigen Ultra Crystal is crystal clear
Spigen Ultra Oleophobic is Crystal with a slightly Oil-resitant coating. The coating does not effect the visual clarity. The surface does not dirty from oils quite as quickly and is slightly easier to wipe clean.
Neither should inhibit the touch screen or stylus.

The thickness is actually good in my opinion. The rigidity makes it easier to install and prevents the effect Twister6 was just posting about and noticing in post #369. You will be able to see and feel the edge, but not enough to inhibit your experience if you can bring yourself to ignore it.

NeoGrandizer took some great photos in this post showing his Otterbox Commuter and his Spigen Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protector. The edge of the case does not reach the edge of the protector as you can see in the yellow circle. You probably won't be able to find a case/screen protector combo that will accomplish this, sorry.

Spigen and MobC are quite similar. ISmooth looks to be a newer company, I haven't seen anyone really posting about them. They look extremely similar to Spigen and MobC though. I think you will find any of these three will be great. All three use a Japanese PET Film (wouldn't surprise me if they all use the same source). All 3 have a cut out for the front facing camera. None of them should interfere with the touch screen or stylus use.

I don't know how adept you are at screen protector installation, and I know it is information overload in this thread, but if you scan this thread (and a few others on this forum) you will find some great installation instruction/tips. It could help you prevent wasting one of the two (or three) protectors, help prevent a potential headache, and it will also help prevent your follow up posts asking for tips. If you prepare now and figure out some strategies, you can save yourself some trouble later.
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I went and ordered the Spigen Oleophobic
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OK, so I followed rexxcastle ebay link and ordered that $1.99 6-pack. Got it today. Is it cheap? Of course for $0.33 a pop it comes with only 1 piece of cloth for all 6 screens and each protector has only one peelable protective film toward the screen (usually screen protectors come with 2 protective films on each side). The screen is crystal clear. Went on like a butter. I intentionally peeled it off and re-applied a few times to see if it going to loose a grip or get bubbles on the edge, etc. Worked perfectly every single time. S-pen leaves some marks which you can wipe out easily. Under fluorescent light it has a very slight rainbow effect (no weird swirl patterns, etc), and it's hardly noticeable and not as obstructive as the picture of screen protector I posted before. The material is thinner than Spigen, that's expected for a fraction of the price. But overall its a decent screen protector. Can't tell you about longevity, but I do have 4 more left (one out of 6 was actually damaged in the pack) and that should last for awhile. Just my 2 cents

... I guess my fluorescent light at home is not as intense as it is at work, since now I see the rainbow effect a little more pronounced in my office, but still not as extreme as it was before with other screen protector. It's only noticeable when screen is off; when its back on you can't see it. I guess the next step will be to try out VZW screen protectors This way i will be fully "educated" about all of them!
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Allright, after bunch of research here and amazon, ordered and got my Spigen last night and today got my replacement Note 2 with no stuck pixels this time. What are the big tips again to avoid screwing up installing this thing?

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Here is a few of my personal tips. First of all do it in a well-lit area. I personally prefer kitchen island Wipe the surface of the area with a damp paper towel. Of course, take the Commuter case off. Wipe/clean the whole phone with an included wipe, both screen and back sides. Make sure there is no dust specks. The screen protector will have a protective film labeled 1 and 2 on each side. Prior to removing it, wipe the surface of each side as well. The whole point that screen protector is like a magnet pulling all the dust particles from surrounding area. I even go as far as taking my t-shirt off (yeah, doing it topless lol!!!) to make sure there are no specs on my shirt being pulled off by sp when I'm leaning over. Remove half way only the side which is going on a screen (I believe it will be labeled 1), don't remove the other side film. That was a mistake I made because instruction on the package stated to remove both. Apply it carefully, and be aware that Spigen SP has a lot of margin so you want to space it evenly around home button and between edges of the phone. Don't worry if you see bubbles - those are easy to remove by swiping with a card or just applying pressure outwards with a thumb. If you see a speck of dust underneath, lift the screen side and use included sticky tape strips to remove it. Do NOT use your nail to lift off the edge of the screen protector because you will bend it. Try to see if you can lift it off by pulling on the outer side film tab (with label 2). If that film comes off while sp is still intact, use a scotch tape (rolled in a circle with sticky side outside - actually have that prepared ahead of time just in case) to lift it up.

Of course, there are tons of YT tutorial for Spigen SP, but they all make it look so simple in one move. Just take your time and have patience. Remember you got a pair of those. If you are not sure, you can always go to VZW (or whatever your provider is) or BB and for a fee they can put it on for you.

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Btw, I had mine, didn't like it, and returned it back. Ended up buying from 3 different ebay vendors - all having issues. Actually got every penny of my money refunded back because I provided pictures and detailed description of the problem. Next, I'm planning to get VZW screen protectors (3-pack for $9.95 including in-house install). If I'm not satisfied, will try to look into Just Like Glass screen protectors which supposed to be bar none (everybody at xda forum raves about it).
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Phew... that took some patience and redoe but I managed to get a near perfect install on my first screen. Its slightly off kilter that can bee see at home button but no dust or particle bubbles so i'm happy with that.

I have to say, whoever though including the sticky tabs is a freaking GENIUS as I used 3 of them as I was trying to lay down the screen and I got several particles that otherwise would have completely botched the screen and I woulda had to use my second one.

Have hardly used phone but initial impressions are good, no weird glare or rainbow effect at all and S-pen doesnt' seem to be affected other then the screen feels somewhat sticky and dry but apparently that goes away after awhile.



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Spigen aside, I have been researching more "premium" screen protectors and narrowed it down to iSmooth (Amazon.com: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Screen Protector - NEW 2013 Ultra Premium HD Version - 3 PACK Ultra Clear - iSmooth - Free Lifetime Replacement Guarantee - Bubble Free Installation Guaranteed - Package Includes BONUS Premium Microfiber Cleaning Clo) or MobC (Amazon.com: MobC Galaxy Note 2 / N7100 Screen Protector HD Film - 99.9% Clarity Japanese Film - Retail Packaging - Fine Crystal [2-Pack]: Cell Phones & Accessories)

Both have very positive reviews on Amazon (only very few 1-star extreme reviews, probably from Spigen or JLG lol!!!). MobC is often referred to as a cheaper alternative to Spigen (the same 3H Japanese screen) and comes in a pack of 2 for $9.95. iSmooth comes in a pack of 3 for $9.95 and praised as the easiest installation and great quality with guaranteed no rainbow effects and lifetime replacement. Any comments/experience with either?

Btw, went to VZW store to look at their screen protector (pack of 3 for $10). They had no idea what I was talking about when I ask them if they have rainbow effect under fluorescent light. Furthermore, they told me if I open the package and install one, and later find a defect or rainbow effect - I can't return it back, and no refund. Forget about it!

So now, either iSmooth (leaning more toward it) or MobC (might be the same as Spigen?).
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Both have very positive reviews on Amazon (only very few 1-star extreme reviews, probably from Spigen or JLG lol!!!). MobC is often referred to as a cheaper alternative to Spigen (the same 3H Japanese screen) and comes in a pack of 2 for $9.95. iSmooth comes in a pack of 3 for $9.95 and praised as the easiest installation and great quality with guaranteed no rainbow effects and lifetime replacement. Any comments/experience with either?

Btw, went to VZW store to look at their screen protector (pack of 3 for $10). They had no idea what I was talking about when I ask them if they have rainbow effect under fluorescent light. Furthermore, they told me if I open the package and install one, and later find a defect or rainbow effect - I can't return it back, and no refund. Forget about it!

So now, either iSmooth (leaning more toward it) or MobC (might be the same as Spigen?).
I would just be careful with buying based on reviews on Amazon. People who don't know any better give Zagg protectors raving reviews. They don't really realize how crappy Zagg protectors are compared to what's out there.

That being said, I have seen that people who bought the MobC protectors for the Note 2 have been happy with them. iSmooth I haven't really heard of before. I may have seen the name a couple times but not many people talking about it.
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I ordered some cheap screen protectors on eBay for a 1.99 surprisingly the quality of them is extremely good I was able to put my first 1 on with not a single bubbles on screen also no orange peel that I have seen yet. I also ordered a spigen that I will put on once this one fails. Also the pen works well with these and I've not scratched it yet. I will not post a link but will provide a ss of the product and seller





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That's what I got. Really nice quality for the price. I got a perfect install on the first shot. Not a single bubble at all and the fit really could not be any better.
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That's what I got. Really nice quality for the price. I got a perfect install on the first shot. Not a single bubble at all and the fit really could not be any better.
Install - its your skills to get it perfect on the first shot, doesn't say anything about the quality I had no issues with install of this sp, no bubbles, and it sticks very nicely around every edge including Home button. But the truth of the matter, it's the thinnest one out of every cheap ebay sp I've tried. I was happy with this sp at first, but as soon as I took it to work under our fluorescent lights - you see rainbow effect. Not as bad, but it's still there. S-pen will leave marks on it, but you can wipe it. Even worse, after 1+ week of use - I'm starting to see scratches, and I'm very careful with my phone and use a case with a decent bumper so the screen never touches the surface. The scartches gotta be from phone in the pocket. Bottom line, its a very budget thin sp with no UV protection. If you are not in the area of corporate fluorescent lights and don't mind accumulation of small scartches (you get a pack of 6 for $1.99 - plenty of replacements) - its a good budget option.
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I would just be careful with buying based on reviews on Amazon. People who don't know any better give Zagg protectors raving reviews. They don't really realize how crappy Zagg protectors are compared to what's out there.

That being said, I have seen that people who bought the MobC protectors for the Note 2 have been happy with them. iSmooth I haven't really heard of before. I may have seen the name a couple times but not many people talking about it.
Getting iSmooth next week. These guys are underdogs; I want to give them a chance! Will post my reviews as soon as I get it and have it on!
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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I used buy Zagg invisishields with every phone, but I recently discovered Armorsuit on Amazon. It is the same thing, same application, at half the price. This screen protector is $10 shipped with free lifetime replacements. I have installed a few of these now and they are a lot easier to do than they look.

Amazon.com: ArmorSuit MilitaryShield - Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Note II Screen Protector Shield + Lifetime Replacements: Cell Phones & Accessories
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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I used buy Zagg invisishields with every phone, but I recently discovered Armorsuit on Amazon. It is the same thing, same application, at half the price. This screen protector is $10 shipped with free lifetime replacements. I have installed a few of these now and they are a lot easier to do than they look.

Amazon.com: ArmorSuit MilitaryShield - Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Note II Screen Protector Shield + Lifetime Replacements: Cell Phones & Accessories
Thanks for feedback! Can you comment on people's reviews about s-pen marks? I see it as the major common complain in there, and can't figure out if its permanent or easy to wipe. How about under strong fluorescent lights, any rainbow/oily effects?
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Thanks for feedback! Can you comment on people's reviews about s-pen marks? I see it as the major common complain in there, and can't figure out if its permanent or easy to wipe. How about under strong fluorescent lights, any rainbow/oily effects?
The s-pen does make marks, but this screen protector is self healing so they are gone within a matter of hours. I haven't had an issue in strong fluorescent lights. The rainbow oily effects only occur after initial installation. You use ionized water to apply this, so for the first 12-24 hours this occurs but it goes away after that.

One thing that is really great is if you put this on and it you notice later it is a bit off center you can use the spray to take it off and reapply. My first concern with this case was messing it up, but honestly its easy. All of my friends have been buying them and having me install it for them. The shipping is fast, I really back this company. My brother ripped his off of his iphone by mistake while trying to put on an otterbox reflex, he messaged the company, they checked their records to prove he ordered one and there was a new one at his door in three days. Can't beat a company that stands by their stuff.
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Personally, I don't get why or even how people use those rubbery type of screen protectors like the Zagg Invisishield. They have a rubbery feeling making it hard to swipe screens and such and they also look awful. I would be worried about the tip of the S Pen using a screen protector like that. The tip of the pen looks like it could break off easily if it gets snagged on the protector by pressing too hard or something. I can imagine a protector like that also really messes with the Wacom technology that these phones have.

There are much better alternatives on the market that actually feel like the glass of the phone and DON'T require water to apply, which is a big thing because water can seriously mess up your screen or the internals of the phone if even a tiny amount leaks into the phone through the bezel of the phone or some other way. Huge risk for what is a crappy screen protector in the first place, in my opinion of course. I would rather take the risk of scratching the screen by using it without a screen protector than use one of those rubbery type of screen protectors.

For all my devices I usually use the Spigen SGP screen protectors because they feel like nothing is there.
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I would be very anxious using any wet application screen protector.

Just read this quote from JLG support guy on XDA forum: "Just don't squeegee the liquid into the ports and you should be fine."
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Zagg screen protectors are great if you are clumsy, chuck your phone into your bag/handbag along with keys/coins and anything sharp (eg my girlfriend)

But the fact they dent and imprint is crappy. The screen ALWAYS looks potmarked (even though they self heal) because of it. Totally messes up viewing anything like a video or a webpage.


Added the fact the clarity is naff and they are rubbery to the touch, I just can't see why anyone would have this sort of sticker on a phone like a NOTE.



The way I see it, if you're clumsy, then don't use Zagg, just get a ton of cheap ass ebay clear screen stickers and replace it once a week
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After 3 sets, I finally got my Spigen screen protector on perfectly. No dust, no air bubbles, no bent corners nothing. Its on good and straight.
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Just ordered this after reading reviews...
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You can't go wrong with Spigen or MobC (heard, those are almost identical). I'm waiting for iSmooth screen protector next. Will post my review/comments once I get it.
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Anyone knows any screen protector that is made out of thin glass? I could never get all bubbles out of any screen protector and they always ended up looking bad. I just don't have the skill and patient to work out dust and bubble. I think that if it is a thin piece of glass or thicker piece of plastic, it would be easy to install. I already have a bumper case, do I don't even need it to stick to the screen. Just sit on top of it and the metal bumper will clamp it in place.
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Been enjoying mine so far.

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Anyone knows any screen protector that is made out of thin glass? I could never get all bubbles out of any screen protector and they always ended up looking bad. I just don't have the skill and patient to work out dust and bubble. I think that if it is a thin piece of glass or thicker piece of plastic, it would be easy to install. I already have a bumper case, do I don't even need it to stick to the screen. Just sit on top of it and the metal bumper will clamp it in place.

A thin glass protector would be MUCH MUCH worse. I can just imagine the lawsuits pending as a result of people slicing their fingers open trying to install something like that or shards of glass being embedded in hands when it breaks in use.

In short, no, nothing like that. The Otterbox commuter has something like that built into the case but alot of people have problems with it.

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Anyone knows any screen protector that is made out of thin glass? I could never get all bubbles out of any screen protector and they always ended up looking bad. I just don't have the skill and patient to work out dust and bubble. I think that if it is a thin piece of glass or thicker piece of plastic, it would be easy to install. I already have a bumper case, do I don't even need it to stick to the screen. Just sit on top of it and the metal bumper will clamp it in place.
Check out this link with info and pics about Tempered Glass screen protector:
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Btw, that guy got a case that makes your Note 2 look like iPhone!!!
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A thin glass protector would be MUCH MUCH worse. I can just imagine the lawsuits pending as a result of people slicing their fingers open trying to install something like that or shards of glass being embedded in hands when it breaks in use.

In short, no, nothing like that. The Otterbox commuter has something like that built into the case but alot of people have problems with it.

I put one on my iphone 5 and loved it. You obviously have never seen one as its nothing like you say.
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