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Old November 7th, 2012, 12:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As I understand it, the Note 2 supports FLAC natively. However, I can't seem to get the music player to play my flac files. I tried different compression ratios and bit depths but still no playback.

The message i get:

Sorry the player does not support this type of audio file.

Any ideas what is going on here?

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Old November 7th, 2012, 12:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As I understand it, the Note 2 supports FLAC natively. However, I can't seem to get the music player to play my flac files. I tried different compression ratios and bit depths but still no playback.

The message i get:

Sorry the player does not support this type of audio file.

Any ideas what is going on here?
Maybe it's the Samsung Stock Player that is giving you issues? I use Winamp or PowerAmp and have no problems with any FLAC files.
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Old November 8th, 2012, 12:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Something is wrong there. Stock player plays FLAC files, I've used mine with it a number of times (I only have FLAC files).
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Old November 8th, 2012, 01:15 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Something is wrong there. Stock player plays FLAC files, I've used mine with it a number of times (I only have FLAC files).
I agree... I just have no way to test it since I don't have my Note II yet. I can't think of any reason why the OP is having such an issue. There should be no need to change compression ratios and bit depths.
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Makes me wonder if they are actually ALAC files or something...
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http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2/645075-usa-carrier-os-fragmetation.html#post5178186

The bummer is the USA versions (AT&T) do not support FLAC or OGG

Its borderline of a case of misrepresentation.

But its been a lesson in never assume anything in this era of marketing exec's at Verizon or AT&T piece meal blocking or omitting features they judge as un used.

"Our customers do not need those features - lets remove it" on locked carrier phones.

Its a bit like buying a new computer, and then discovering the PC vendor has locked out access to the file format type you need for work.

(oh thats the Microsoft Win RT Surface)


Looks like I'll be rooting and swapping out the AT&T ROM a lot sooner than i expected.

Thats what I get for trusting the Samsung Marketing machine, and makes me seething mad at AT&T

Its like ordering a Lambourgini, then the local dealer removes the V-12 engine, claiming he had to do that "for your protection".
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The bummer is the USA versions (AT&T) do not support FLAC or OGG

Its borderline of a case of misrepresentation.

But its been a lesson in never assume anything in this era of piece meal dissected features on locked carrier phones.

Its a bit like buying a new computer, and then discovering the PC vendor has locked out access to the file type format type you need for work.
Whoa, that is really weird, My US S3 (AT&T) does support FLAC.
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Whoa, that is really weird, My US S3 (AT&T) does support FLAC.
AT&T Galaxy S3 = YES

AT&T Galaxy Note 2 - No - at least with the current firmware.


Im simply going by by the AT&T Galaxy Note 2 Owners manual.
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201211/20121106003612094/ATT_i317_Galaxy_Note_II_English_User_Manual_LJ2_F3 .pdf

I load it in acrobat, search or "ogg" or "flac"

no mention of those files

Of course my phone is still in transit and will not be here till the weekend for me to test this as fact - but the USA manuals are very poor excuse as a operation guide. Most will go in the landfill
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Fair point about the value of Samsung user manuals, the International S3 one says it takes maximum 32GB micro SD cards and only with Fat32 formatting, when they of course take 64GB cards with Fat32 and exFAT formatting (heck, Samsung even said they'd take 64GB cards at the S3 announcement event before the manual was done!).
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I agree - I see these are moving targets, and each carrier strives to elbow in their own bloatware / profit center.

AT&T still wants their customers to skip google maps and pay $5/mo for ATT Navigator for crying out loud.

But I'm a data hound, and I find value in reading all versions of Galaxy Note Owners Manuals.

When you read each - its glaring that huge omissions exist

The ONLY place I could locate "stereo recording" is in the International Manual.

http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2/645075-galaxy-note-2-owners-manuals.html
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Just convert them, there's no reason to really use FLAC on a limited storage device like the Note 2...MP3 at 320 will be sufficient.
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Just convert them, there's no reason to really use FLAC on a limited storage device like the Note 2...MP3 at 320 will be sufficient.
You assume rather a lot there. It seems clear the OP considers it worth it.

For me FLAC is totally worth it, I'm using an RSA Intruder USB DAC/amp and various high-end cans from that (Beyerdynamic T5p, Ultrasone Ed8, Ultrasone Signature Pro, and Audio Technica W3000ANV closed cans for portable/transportable use, and occasionally use it with some of my open cans like the GS1000i and LCD-2). I have my favourite stuff in FLAC on-device and occasionally use a 500GB Seagate GoFlex Satellite in order to have access to my whole collection in FLAC.
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My Galaxy Note 2 will be here tomorrow -
Plan a weekend of testing.
and should be able to confirm if FLAC is supported on the AT&T Galaxy Note 2 by Monday.

I may be incorrectly interpreting typos / missing information in the AT&T Galaxy Note 2 Owners Manual as truth about the FLAC / OGG situation

(both file types are omitted in the AT&T docs)

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If all of the above is true...... it's maddening. What's the logic behind gimping an awesome device? I will reiterate the use of WinAmp to solve the issue as it will give you both FLAC and gapless playback.
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I will reiterate the use of WinAmp to solve the issue as it will give you both FLAC and gapless playback.
Agreed!

Its just really annoying that you find out there are more missing features in the AT&T Galaxy Note 2 than simply lack of Multiview - and nobody from AT&T is stepping forward to provide any news if / when a possible future update will ever arrive to fix this situation
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If all of the above is true...... it's maddening. What's the logic behind gimping an awesome device? I will reiterate the use of WinAmp to solve the issue as it will give you both FLAC and gapless playback.

As will several others like PowerAMP and Neutron.

PowerAMP and Neutron are probably better options for audiophiles.
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Just to confirm that UK sim free from Amazon UK plays FLAC files with stock player.

a) from the internal memory
b) streaming over my home network
c) when stored on Google Drive clicking the link downloads and plays the file.

However, when copying FLAC file to my Note 2 (using win XP) I get a warning saying this file type is not supported but you can copy these files across as storage or for transport.
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However, when copying FLAC file to my Note 2 (using win XP) I get a warning saying this file type is not supported but you can copy these files across as storage or for transport.
Just ignore the warning, that just pops up because of the MTP connection that Android devices >4.0 are using now.
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As will several others like PowerAMP and Neutron.

PowerAMP and Neutron are probably better options for audiophiles.
I agree on PowerAmp. I am not crazy about the interface on Neutron. I suggested WinAmp since it is a classic desktop favorite and does have great syncing between desktop and mobile. I agree that the mobile version is lacking in features that are usually associated with it. I'd prefer it looked more like it's desktop counterpart as well.
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I agree on PowerAmp. I am not crazy about the interface on Neutron. I suggested WinAmp since it is a classic desktop favorite and does have great syncing between desktop and mobile. I agree that the mobile version is lacking in features that are usually associated with it. I'd prefer it looked more like it's desktop counterpart as well.
The interface on Neutron is awful, completely agree. It has its own sound engine though and produces measurably better sound than other players, for that reason alone some audiophiles will go for Neutron. For myself I couldn't live with the UI.


(also, I'm listening via USB audio and an external DAC, and PowerAMP and Neutron sound identical in that scenario anyways)
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