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Old February 16th, 2013, 03:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Break It Down - How Does The S Pen Work? - YouTube

Break It Down - How Does The S Pen Work? (Part 2) - YouTube

I guess its OK to use a screen protector on the Note 2!

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What made you think you couldnt use a screen protector on the note 2?
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Old February 16th, 2013, 09:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That's pretty cool. I didn't realize you could write on the screen without touching it at all.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 04:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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What made you think you couldnt use a screen protector on the note 2?
Maybe it was this, as taken from page 9 of the Note 2 User Guide:

"Do not use a screen protector. This causes sensor malfunctions."
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Actually, maybe it should be titled how a digital pen works. It's a Wacom pen afterall. I just bought a Microsoft Surface Pro Pen and using it on my Note 2 and Note 10.1. The Note 2 unfortunately, has a small calibration issue with it. When held perpendicular to the screen, it's spot on. Hold it on a writing angle, and the cursor is a mm or 2 off under the actual tip. No such issue when using it with the Note 10.1. Also like the fact that the other end actually acts like an eraser.

Also costs $10 cheaper than the actual Samsung product. Fully plastic, light weight body. Full size pen. Though I wish it had a metal housing like the S-Pen holder with comfort grip. But that's just me.
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Maybe it was this, as taken from page 9 of the Note 2 User Guide:

"Do not use a screen protector. This causes sensor malfunctions."
Most of the screen protectors I have seen that are made for a device have the proper cutouts so they don't interfere with sensors.
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Most of the screen protectors I have seen that are made for a device have the proper cutouts so they don't interfere with sensors.
Actually when discussing the S-Pen, the entire screen is the sensor due to the built-in screen digitizer. The screen digitizer picks up the pen's weak magnetic field emission and is also used to power the pen from my understanding. This is why magnetic cases can interfere with the functions of the S-Pen dependent on the strength of the magnets in use.

And there has been some discussion of certain screen protectors interferring with the S-Pen. Where it will lose accuracy or there will be no input. though it can be a number of different reasons for it. Poor adherence to the screen, adhesive used, thickness of protector, etc.
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Actually when discussing the S-Pen, the entire screen is the sensor due to the built-in screen digitizer. The screen digitizer picks up the pen's weak magnetic field emission and is also used to power the pen from my understanding. This is why magnetic cases can interfere with the functions of the S-Pen dependent on the strength of the magnets in use.

And there has been some discussion of certain screen protectors interferring with the S-Pen. Where it will lose accuracy or there will be no input. though it can be a number of different reasons for it. Poor adherence to the screen, adhesive used, thickness of protector, etc.
I had not heard anything about screen protectors interfering with the s-pen other than the pen not sliding well on them. You can even lay a 3mm / eighth inch thick piece of wood covered with plastic on the screen and the s-pen will write through it just as though there was nothing between the s-pen and the screen.
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Well, I have heard issues with some screen protectors. No question about the S Pen working. It's more about the issue of accuracy and/or missed inputs.
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Well, I have heard issues with some screen protectors. No question about the S Pen working. It's more about the issue of accuracy and/or missed inputs.
Maybe those are caused by s-pen adjustment issues rather than screen protector issues?
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I have not missed using a screen protector on my Note 2 since the day I took it off.
More times than not my pen would not register when moving across the screen in a fluid motion.
I was using a Spigen Ultra which incidentally developed a tear.
It was a 2 pack- I gave the other away.
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I was using a Spigen Ultra which incidentally developed a tear.
It was a 2 pack- I gave the other away.
That's the first I ever heard of that!
Those things are so hard I can't see one tearing. Cracking maybe, but not tearing. Did you contact them? I would not be surprised if they replaced it.
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I stopped using screen protectors after I researched Gorilla Glass. Dust in the air contains abrasive particles which are mostly in the range of hardness as regular glass. That's why regular glass gets scratched more easily than Gorilla Glass, when a finger or a stylus rubs over the surface. Gorilla Glass doesn't scratch nearly so easily, therefore there's no real benefit to using a screen protector.
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Still, gorilla glass can be scratched. I've seen some display models have scratches on them. It doesn't take much to scratch it if you really think about it. Just the right circumstances and condition. It's not scratch proof.
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I'm not sure they use GG in display pieces.

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Workable display models are actual phones. Some places even sell the display models at a discount when the time comes.

Edit: there are some users who have gorilla glass on this and other devices. Some have said they managed to scratch their screen. Some even showing pics of the scratch. Again, given the right circumstance and condition, it will scratch.
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wow i have a screen protector i havent had any issues with my spen as of yet.
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Interesting video but that guy is pretty painful to watch.
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Edit: there are some users who have gorilla glass on this and other devices. Some have said they managed to scratch their screen. Some even showing pics of the scratch. Again, given the right circumstance and condition, it will scratch.
Exactly. GG is 6.8 on the Mohs scale of hardness. Anything higher on the scale will scratch it.

You've all seen those silly youtube vids where someone tries to scratch a screen with a knife and failed. All it means is they have a cheap knife - steel ranges from 4-8 depending on the type and how it is heat treated. Hardened tool steel will scratch it very easily, something like an industrial quality tap or a good file.

But the real concern is mineral dust, something blown in from the road or your yard or the beach, some of that is of a higher hardness and wiping your screen when it is on it will scratch the screen. This is why screen protectors are a good investment.

For more info: Mohs Hardness Scale: Testing the Resistance to Being Scratched
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