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Old September 9th, 2013, 11:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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besides the new IR blaster, the note 3 s-pen will active the back and menu key, was shown in the 18 min. Samsung video,,,, does anyone know for a fact if wireless charging can be done similiar to note 2.

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does anyone know for a fact if wireless charging can be done similiar to note 2.
It seems so, yes. Official Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Wireless Charging Cover - Black
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Another feature I find fascinating is Knox.

Apparently the apps and app data in it are password protected and completely separate from the rest of the phone: separate app drawer, app settings, data, everything. Sounds great for my banking apps and maybe enterprise documents, right?

BUT... according to the Note 3 manual, page 145 covers Knox and warns:

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To secure your data, KNOX and associated data is deleted when the password is
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So if you get it wrong - or worse, someone tries to get in, it just deletes all your apps and data? How about snap a photo of the offending would-be data thief and just protect the data? Why on EARTH would Samsung create such a useful (and thoroughly self-destructing) app like Knox?
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^ Does sound a bit dangerous doesnt it! Like the idea of taking a (silent) picture.
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Another feature I find fascinating is Knox.

Apparently the apps and app data in it are password protected and completely separate from the rest of the phone: separate app drawer, app settings, data, everything. Sounds great for my banking apps and maybe enterprise documents, right?

So if you get it wrong - or worse, someone tries to get in, it just deletes all your apps and data? How about snap a photo of the offending would-be data thief and just protect the data? Why on EARTH would Samsung create such a useful (and thoroughly self-destructing) app like Knox?
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To secure your data, KNOX and associated data is deleted when the password is entered incorrectly several times.
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I think (well, I hope) that it would just delete the KNOX app and any apps that you had associated with it. So if for instance, I use two banking apps, if someone tried to get in to the phone, it would delete KNOX and those two apps but leave everything else intact.
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I think (well, I hope) that it would just delete the KNOX app and any apps that you had associated with it. So if for instance, I use two banking apps, if someone tried to get in to the phone, it would delete KNOX and those two apps but leave everything else intact.
So what you're saying is that you would HOPE that Knox, your banking apps and all associated data would be deleted at the first sign of tampering? No, no thank you.

Cerberus is a great anti-theft app in Play that does what I said: too many login attempts or pattern mistakes and it silently takes their pic and emails it to you. Lots of other stuff. But deleting everything should be a last resort, not a first one.
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So what you're saying is that you would HOPE that Knox, your banking apps and all associated data would be deleted at the first sign of tampering? No, no thank you.

Cerberus is a great anti-theft app in Play that does what I said: too many login attempts or pattern mistakes and it silently takes their pic and emails it to you. Lots of other stuff. But deleting everything should be a last resort, not a first one.
No. What I am saying is that if it has to do one or the other, it's better for your banking apps to be deleted rather than the entire phone data.

But yes I do agree with you that Cerberus seems like a much better alternative.
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I see your point now: better to lose a little than a lot

Next feature to discuss... 192 kHz 24 bit audio!

What source(s) are there that capture that sort of audio? I'm not sure even audiophile CDs do it...
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Another feature I find fascinating is Knox.

Apparently the apps and app data in it are password protected and completely separate from the rest of the phone: separate app drawer, app settings, data, everything. Sounds great for my banking apps and maybe enterprise documents, right?

BUT... according to the Note 3 manual, page 145 covers Knox and warns:





So if you get it wrong - or worse, someone tries to get in, it just deletes all your apps and data? How about snap a photo of the offending would-be data thief and just protect the data? Why on EARTH would Samsung create such a useful (and thoroughly self-destructing) app like Knox?
Holy crap. I was keen on using Knox before, but not so much anymore. I don't mind it locking out, but completely deleting everything? That will not fly for my work needs.
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Anybody figured out where the NFC is located? I hope they didn't move it back into the battery, like the original Note.
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Anybody figured out where the NFC is located? I hope they didn't move it back into the battery, like the original Note.
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Your device allows you to read near field communication (NFC) tags that contain information about products. You can also use this feature to make payments and buy tickets for transportation or events after downloading the required applications.

The battery contains a built-in NFC antenna. Handle the battery carefully to avoid damaging the NFC antenna.

If the screen is locked, your device will not read NFC tags or receive data.
To activate the NFC feature, on the Applications screen, tap Settings→Connections→NFC.
Drag the NFC switch to the right.
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Great...so, now begs the question if all the carriers went with the same standard. I was planning on purchasing the same extra battery chargers for the Note 3, as I had for the Note 2, but since the NFC is embedded into the battery again, it won't be a smart purchase if Sprint had decided to change the protocol for NFC.
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Now that I've made the decision and ordered the phone, I'm enjoying the process of learning all I can about it. Here we have a smartphone so heavily equipped with a plethora of features, it promises to provide hours of interesting discovery and plenty of time saving features.
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Now that I've made the decision and ordered the phone, I'm enjoying the process of learning all I can about it. Here we have a smartphone so heavily equipped with a plethora of features, it promises to provide hours of interesting discovery and plenty of time saving features.
Some of the features from the Note 2, should translate over to the Note 3, so I'd highly recommend looking at some of the Note 2 videos out there as well. The only real "new" feature they introduced was the S-pen airview thing (whatever it's called). There are other basic s-pen techniques that have even translated over from the original Note.
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The only real "new" feature they introduced was the S-pen airview thing (whatever it's called). There are other basic s-pen techniques that have even translated over from the original Note.
Thanks for the feedback.

According to a report I read recently (sorry I didn't grab the url) the S-Pen has actually received quite a revamping. Bringing across the popular features of the Note 2, and a host very useful and innovative new features that are both unseen thus far, and original to the Note 3.

I'll be interested to see what this new Note brings to the table.
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Importantly for Samsung, the S-Pen is a real differentiator. In a world where it was mocked as old tech they have turned it around and used it to their advantage. Even better is that the device is still as usable without it as any other smartphone for those who decide not to use it. Total win-win for them, I'm impressed, and that's coming from someone who has only had iPhones up to this point.
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