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Old September 14th, 2013, 07:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I just realised I need to order a 64 Gb microSD card for my new phone. So advice please on what class of card? I'm guessing I don't need to go very high speed - as I do for my cameras.

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Whatever you do, don't buy this

Purchased a SanDisk a year ago and my Samsung Note II began crashing recently. Could not figure it out. Thought it was a rogue app. Turned out the card was unmounting itself.

My friends, who bought the same card with my recommendation, also had unmounting problems.

Then, when I finally read more Amazon reviews, I saw a pattern.

There is actually debate going on as to whether the Samsung motherboard in these phones supports Class 10 microSD cards.
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Purchased a SanDisk a year ago and my Samsung Note II began crashing recently. Could not figure it out. Thought it was a rogue app. Turned out the card was unmounting itself.

My friends, who bought the same card with my recommendation, also had unmounting problems.

Then, when I finally read more Amazon reviews, I saw a pattern.

There is actually debate going on as to whether the Samsung motherboard in these phones supports Class 10 microSD cards.

I had the exact same issue.
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Did you buy it from the same seller?

Was your phone crashing, too?

So, here is the big question....

Was this the fault of the particular seller, who some of the reviews on Amazon are citing as selling fraudulent cards?

Or, if this is a genuine SanDisk card, is it a problem with the Class 10 cards and Samsung compatibility?

BTW, I should mention, after a year of purchase, SanDisk is allowing me to exchange this card with them. I am wondering if I should ask for a lower class card or not in exchange if that is indeed the problem.
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There was an article concerning this same issue with SanDisk, I purchase a 32 SanDisk from amazon it was working fine for a while, then all of sudden I was getting errors. I think this time around on my note 3 I will go with a Samsung sd card this time around.


Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 64GB Pro microSDXC Extreme Speed (UHS-1) Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MGCGB/AM): Computers & Accessories
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Thanks for the warnings guys. I use Lexar 1000x CF cards on my cameras but Lexar or SanDisk seems like overkill for a phone.

Is there a reason for people going up to Class 10?
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Probably the reason the majority of those of us that have a 64GB card(especially this one) :

Capacity & price. Most of us caught this on sale @ AMAZON/e-Bay/BEST BUY/RADIO SHACK for under $50.The speed is just a BTW, although some here no doubt appreciate the added speed vs a lower class card.

If you are now gun-shy about getting this particular card, SAMSUNG sells their own version, which I would assume would be compatible (more so?) than the SANDISK.

If something goes wrong, w/either the phone or card, at least you've cornered SAMSUNG & given them no room to play the finger-pointing game.


Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 64GB Pro microSDXC Extreme Speed (UHS-1) Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MGCGB/AM): Computers & Accessories
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Kolio,

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Advice duly taken. Though I have to say I would be surprised if the card was actually manufactured by Samsung. But point taken anyway. (There is going to be less grief with them if this card causes problems.) Cost me GBP 43.98 which is about USD $69.83 with tax.

I'm glad I asked.
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Probably the reason the majority of those of us that have a 64GB card(especially this one) :

Capacity & price. Most of us caught this on sale @ AMAZON/e-Bay/BEST BUY/RADIO SHACK for under $50.The speed is just a BTW, although some here no doubt appreciate the added speed vs a lower class card.

If you are now gun-shy about getting this particular card, SAMSUNG sells their own version, which I would assume would be compatible (more so?) than the SANDISK.

If something goes wrong, w/either the phone or card, at least you've cornered SAMSUNG & given them no room to play the finger-pointing game.


Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 64GB Pro microSDXC Extreme Speed (UHS-1) Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MGCGB/AM): Computers & Accessories

So you have the samsung pro card? Might you post some benchmark results on the read/write speeds with the N3? I was using "SD Tools" from Play, and run some tests on the Sandisk Ultra 64GB class 10/UHS-1. Was getting just under 10MB/s write, and ~23MB/s read. Would love to see comparable numbers from the Samsung Pro.




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may be a silly question but are there any restrictions on what you can and cannot put on the SD card? I was reading somewhere that Apps cannot be put on the card. What about videos/photos that are captured from the phone itself?
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Apps can be put on the card.

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So you have the samsung pro card? Might you post some benchmark results on the read/write speeds with the N3? I was using "SD Tools" from Play, and run some tests on the Sandisk Ultra 64GB class 10/UHS-1. Was getting just under 10MB/s write, and ~23MB/s read. Would love to see comparable numbers from the Samsung Pro.





I have exactly the same card in my note 3 here is my result and although basically the same as yours give or take, it is slightly slower, probably due to it being 65% full.




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Exactly the card I ordered and installed.

As a test of transfer speed, I put Star Wars Blu-ray movie on it. That's a full 1920-1080 resolution movie, in luscious stereo, to see if it would play without any pauses or hiccups.

My experience? Perfect playback. And if it'll play THAT back, I'm confident that any media you throw at it will have no problem. Now I can move all 6 Star Wars movies from internal memory to the card with no concerns at all, freeing up vital internal storage
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I've used sandisk's for years with no issues. There could be knockoffs that are out there I guess. I wouldn't recommend a 64GB in case it does fail (they all can) if you have two 32gb at least your not out as much if they do.
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Routine backups to the PC are important as well, both are techniques to mitigate loss in the event of card failure
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I have not used it much yet, But These are current results with a SANDISK Ultra .
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Exactly the card I ordered and installed.

As a test of transfer speed, I put Star Wars Blu-ray movie on it. That's a full 1920-1080 resolution movie, in luscious stereo, to see if it would play without any pauses or hiccups.

My experience? Perfect playback. And if it'll play THAT back, I'm confident that any media you throw at it will have no problem. Now I can move all 6 Star Wars movies from internal memory to the card with no concerns at all, freeing up vital internal storage
By adding the 64 GB card are you getting a total of 96 GB's of storage space now... 32 GB internal and 64 GB on the card?
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By adding the 64 GB card are you getting a total of 96 GB's of storage space now... 32 GB internal and 64 GB on the card?
Yes and it's not enough. Looking forward to stable 128Gb cards coming soonish.
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I wish. It's really bugging me it's not possible.
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I wish. It's really bugging me it's not possible.
You can use a "Micro USB OTG cable" and than backup your Note to a usb stick.
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You can use a "Micro USB OTG cable" and than backup your Note to a usb stick.
I already plugged a USB stick in yesterday and it wasn't recognised at all. I'm guessing that's because all my sticks have been used only on Macs. So how do I get a USB stick formatted so the phone will love it - or even pass the time of day with it?

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With disk utility on your mac, than go for fat32.
But you still need the "special" micro usb otg cable.

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Right well your little cable worked just fine. I don't actually have a USB stick big enough at the moment - like over 96 Gb - but the cable means my ex-Mac USB sticks mount un-reformatted just fine, thanks.

I'd quite like to find a version of this OTG cable with the right Micro B USB on it but no matter. Also once I can dig out an actual ♂ to ♂ full-size USB cable somewhere I'll be intrigued how it behaves actually plugged into a Mac USB port. And also I'll see what it does plugged into a card reader with a camera card in it.

I'm guessing there's a correct way to unmount the USB stick attached to the phone this way other than just pulling it out.

Edit: OK. Found the un-mounting menu choice

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OK so the OTG cable will also mount a card reader and card just fine so the Note 3 can recognise, read and if necessary will copy to either phone memory memory anything off a card so we are talking SD cards, Compact Flash cards, etc from cameras or wherever as well of course as another micro-SD card.

I'm very grateful.

If you have a picture, for instance, on a camera with standard card and you have your Note 3 but no computer, you can read the picture off the card, primitively edit and email from the phone.

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OK so the OTG cable will also mount a card reader and card just fine so the Note 3 can recognise, read and if necessary will copy to either phone memory memory anything off a card so we are talking SD cards, Compact Flash cards, etc from cameras or wherever as well of course as another micro-SD card.

I'm very grateful.

If you have a picture, for instance, on a camera with standard card and you have your Note 3 but no computer, you can read the picture off the card, primitively edit and email from the phone.

Use my OTG all the time, when on the go. I wouldn't recommend using for transferring a lot of files though.
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There was an article concerning this same issue with SanDisk, I purchase a 32 SanDisk from amazon it was working fine for a while, then all of sudden I was getting errors. I think this time around on my note 3 I will go with a Samsung sd card this time around.


Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 64GB Pro microSDXC Extreme Speed (UHS-1) Class 10 Memory Card (MB-MGCGB/AM): Computers & Accessories

Been using a sandisk ultra on N3 for 1+ week with no issues. Worked fine on my bionic also.

Thinking the cards mentioned earlier were knockoffs or something. Else I am lucky with mine.
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Been using a sandisk ultra on N3 for 1+ week with no issues. Worked fine on my bionic also.

Thinking the cards mentioned earlier were knockoffs or something. Else I am lucky with mine.
I've been using mine since my Motorola Photon 2 years ago. Never ran into the issues that others have.
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Use my OTG all the time, when on the go. I wouldn't recommend using for transferring a lot of files though.
OK, I'll bite. Why not?
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OK, I'll bite. Why not?
Every time I attempted transferring a large amount of data using the OTG, the connection always seems to get lost and the full transfer does not complete.

Just for fun, I had attempted transferring over my 16gb of music, that I had deleted off the microSD, just to see if it would transfer again. It probably made it 1/2 way through and then lost connection.

Media is not something I can compromise getting corrupted, so that's one thing I don't mess with, when it comes to files I put on my devices. For big transfers, I always use a PC.
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Every time I attempted transferring a large amount of data using the OTG, the connection always seems to get lost and the full transfer does not complete.

Just for fun, I had attempted transferring over my 16gb of music, that I had deleted off the microSD, just to see if it would transfer again. It probably made it 1/2 way through and then lost connection.

Media is not something I can compromise getting corrupted, so that's one thing I don't mess with, when it comes to files I put on my devices. For big transfers, I always use a PC.
That's not good. I was recommended this primarily to use to backup the entire phone eg to a flash drive.

I do not own nor have I ever owned a PC and have no clue what a "right click" is.
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That's not good. I was recommended this primarily to use to backup the entire phone eg to a flash drive.

I do not own nor have I ever owned a PC and have no clue what a "right click" is.
If I had a Mac, I'd use that before using a OTG. The problem with using a OTG is that it's not a "powered" USB drive, which is the main reason (I'm assuming) that big file transfers stop half way.

If you've never owned a PC and/or Mac, I suggest purchasing the Samsung Smart Dock. Even that would be more reliable in "backing up" to an external drive, then using any OTG dongle. I'd also suggest copy/paste 1 or 2 folders at a time, as the folders could a accumulate a lot of data over time, especially the "Android" folder on the internal storage. That folder usually hosts all the backup data for each app that is used on the phone, most importantly apps that have "backup" functions to save settings.

OTG dongles were really meant for the purposes of transferring a few files, but not a lot of files.

Now, another thing that many people may not be familiar with is WiFi Direct. This is my absolute favorite way to transfer files from one wifi enabled device to another. Once you have the devices recognizing each other, the transfer rate is extremely fast for an OTA file transfer. I've done this plenty of times using my Note 8 and Note 2 (and will be doing it tonight with the Note 3.
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I've owned and always run Macs since 27 November 1987.

Thanks for your suggestions. I'll look at them in the morning. Looking for a way to back the whole phone up regularly (like weekly) given it won't mount on the Mac desktop.
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Thanks for your suggestions. I'll look at them in the morning. Looking for a way to back the whole phone up regularly (like weekly) given it won't mount on the Mac desktop.
Sorry, I keep forgetting about the mac connectivity not being as straight forward as pc.

I'll have to think about what other alternatives, aside from the smartphone.
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I'm rocking a Samsung Pro 64gb microSD. It is fast, but on benchmarks it's not THAT fast (compared to others), said that, it is quite solid at write speed, so... good for 4k recording.

The other (old) card I use is PNY Class 10 (16gb), almost as fast at the Samsung Pro.

No compatibility issues (reason why I skipped Sandisk)

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I'm using this SanDisk and so far it's working fine.


Amazon.com: SanDisk SDSDQUA-064G-U46A Ultra 64 GB microSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card 30MB/s with Adapter: Electronics
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Why are the 64 GB MicroSD cards so crazy expensive? I am looking around and can easily pick up some excellent 32 GB cards for around $18.00 + free shipping. Why are the 64 GB cards so high...the ones I'm seeing are starting around $50.00, around 3 times the price for only double capacity.
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Purchased a SanDisk a year ago and my Samsung Note II began crashing recently. Could not figure it out. Thought it was a rogue app. Turned out the card was unmounting itself.

My friends, who bought the same card with my recommendation, also had unmounting problems.

Then, when I finally read more Amazon reviews, I saw a pattern.

There is actually debate going on as to whether the Samsung motherboard in these phones supports Class 10 microSD cards.
I bought that SanDisk Ultra 64 from that seller way back when for my Note 2, and am now using it on my Note 3. Never had an issue. Defects do come out with flash drives. It doesn't mean they all have problems. All hard drives, SSDs, and other storage drives can have issues. Compared to other flash drives, the SD Ultra reviews show stellar customer satisfaction.
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It might just be that Sandisk is one of the most popular brands out there and is bought by many more people, and so you will get more stories of it failing. I never even knew Samsung had a branded micro SD card until I read about it on here somewhere.

I bought a 64GB Samsung card for my Note 3, but I think I'm going to go with Sandisk for my Note 10.1.
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I bought this one:
Amazon.com: SanDisk Extreme 64 GB microSDXC Class 10 UHS-I Memory Card with Adapter (SDSDQX-064G-U46A): Computers & Accessories

It is more expensive now then when I bought it ($86) but I have had no problems with it. Hooked up through usb 3.0 and copying directly to the sd card in my phone, its fast as hell. I copied 30+ gigs of music in no time. I'm very happy with it.
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Why are the 64 GB MicroSD cards so crazy expensive? I am looking around and can easily pick up some excellent 32 GB cards for around $18.00 + free shipping. Why are the 64 GB cards so high...the ones I'm seeing are starting around $50.00, around 3 times the price for only double capacity.
Probably because it's the largest you can get at the moment.
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I bought the one people warned against buying because I hadn't seen this thread!:

Amazon.com: SanDisk SDSDQUA-064G-U46A Ultra 64 GB microSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card 30MB/s with Adapter: Electronics

So far no issues, but I'll be watching. I only put on photos and music from my computer anyway so if there is a problem I can recover. I'll keep this thread informed if I encounter an issue.
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I got the Note 3 @ release date, I've been using it til now with the Samsung PRO 64gb microSD UHS-1 with NO problems at all.

But, I must confess, it's read speed ain't that amazing (compared to el cheap-o PNY 16gb Class 10), but... write speed is indeed more solid (which I wanted, for 4K stuff)
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For those interested, I ran across this deal on Ebay for the Samsung Pro 64 gb micro sd card for only $44.99 and free shipping.

New Samsung Pro 64GB MicroSD microSDHC Microsdxc SD SDXC Class 10 UHS I 64G Card | eBay
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For those interested, I ran across this deal on Ebay for the Samsung Pro 64 gb micro sd card for only $44.99 and free shipping.

New Samsung Pro 64GB MicroSD microSDHC Microsdxc SD SDXC Class 10 UHS I 64G Card | eBay
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I have a Kingston 64GB in mine (I might have mistakenly said 32GB on another forum), and did some 4K video recording on it the other day, zero problem at all. Had an A-data 32GB in my Note 1 and that one crapped out on me within a year.
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For those interested, I ran across this deal...
Don't buy flash memory on eBay. It is far far far too risky. The Cons heavily outweigh the Pros.
I'm not sure I'd even try to get flash memory on Amazon anymore to be honest. Many Third Party Amazon sellers have even fallen victim to the same problems. If I were to get any flash chips from Amazon it would have to be sold and fulfilled exclusively by Amazon proper - though it is not a fool proof rule like it once was.
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Don't buy flash memory on eBay. It is far far far too risky. The Cons heavily outweigh the Pros.
I'm not sure I'd even try to get flash memory on Amazon anymore to be honest. Many Third Party Amazon sellers have even fallen victim to the same problems. If I were to get any flash chips from Amazon it would have to be sold and fulfilled exclusively by Amazon proper - though it is not a fool proof rule like it once was.
What is the problem with it? If it is a branded sealed package? Honestly, I don't know...please explain for the rest of us.
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I currently have a 16gb card that I had lying around in my N3, but want to upgrade it soon.

Question: When I get a new higher capacity card, can I simply copy the entire contents of card A to card B using windows, and then put card B into the N3?
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