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Old July 7th, 2014, 10:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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so here's the deal - I have had my Moto Razr for over 2 years and it's been great.

no case, no screen sticker, solid - held up to whatever. always worked and I could go 2 days on it if I had to.

it's been awesome - I even rooted it eventually. so, today it died - the bank shot was epic, so there is that.

however I need a new device - and I'm leaning toward a few things but I keep coming back to a note 3.

so you all that own one - would you buy it again today if you had the choice to.

I'm torn between the note 3, the Galaxy 5 and the potential of the LG G3. moto is sadly dead to me

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yes I would, but not from T-mobile.
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I would.

But I would also say your other choices should be good as well. (no experience with a g3, but the s5 is pretty nice)
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From what I understand, if you want the features/benefits of a tablet and stylus, get the Note. If you don't care about those things but want all the other horsepower and features, get the S. I went with the Note 3 last October and I LOVE it. I would buy it again in a second. I will be thrilled to see what the Note 4 or 5 offers when it's time for me to replace the Note 3
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Absolutely. Without question. Without doubt. Without hesitation. The Note 3 is a fabulous machine. I dont have the S5 specs in front of me (or the S4 for that matter) but I thought the N3 stock battery was larger. The N3 battery lasts a long time under heavy use IMHO. and what is beyond real, is that it recharges so quick its almost unfair to any device trying to compete. an hour on the charger and you get well over 50% I bet.

I have my N3 (verizon) rooted, and I love it even more now. Without the bloatware, and unlocked capabilities that BigRed closed down. As I paid full price so I could retain my unlimited data, I dont think I will be going to the Note 4, as I need to recoup the $700ish the phone cost me. But I would go back to the note in a heartbeat.

I dont use the stylus as often as I thought I might. But i have, and i do find it useful. There is a steep learning curve with these Samsung IMHO. Coming from a Rooted Moto Droid Bionic that I loved.

WIth the Note 4 coming out, I am sure the $$ for the Note 3 will be coming down quickly, and it will be a steal. Nothing from apple can touch the N3 or S4 or S5. Not even iPhone6. Apple has lost the battle of smartphones, they stopped innovating.
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Absolutely. Without question. Without doubt. Without hesitation. The Note 3 is a fabulous machine. I dont have the S5 specs in front of me (or the S4 for that matter) but I thought the N3 stock battery was larger. The N3 battery lasts a long time under heavy use IMHO. and what is beyond real, is that it recharges so quick its almost unfair to any device trying to compete. an hour on the charger and you get well over 50% I bet.

I have my N3 (verizon) rooted, and I love it even more now. Without the bloatware, and unlocked capabilities that BigRed closed down. As I paid full price so I could retain my unlimited data, I dont think I will be going to the Note 4, as I need to recoup the $700ish the phone cost me. But I would go back to the note in a heartbeat.

I dont use the stylus as often as I thought I might. But i have, and i do find it useful. There is a steep learning curve with these Samsung IMHO. Coming from a Rooted Moto Droid Bionic that I loved.

WIth the Note 4 coming out, I am sure the $$ for the Note 3 will be coming down quickly, and it will be a steal. Nothing from apple can touch the N3 or S4 or S5. Not even iPhone6. Apple has lost the battle of smartphones, they stopped innovating.
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jetguat, did you stay with jellybean or go to kitkat with your Verizon N3? I'm Verizon with mine, kitkat, and I'm not rooted. I have had a small app or two that I'd need root to use, but haven't found it compelling enough to take on the uncertainty and Android versioning questions it seems like rooting might lead me to, sooner or later. Is that how you see the situation for yourself, or did you find it no big deal to go rooted, and also have the fixes/tweaks that kitkat brought? I'm still thinking in the end I'd be glad to have full root on mine..
I was rooted on Jellybean. I am now rooted on KitKat. Using the Hyperdrive 8 ROM. I like it. I dont tweak/hack that much. I just installed and use it. It has tons of customizations, which some might find neat, but I dont really have need. some of the sound/audio stuff is very nice. Viper4Android is a great package you need root for. I would have never guess the audio from the jack on the N3 could sound so great. in Headphones of a bluetooth speak. even the plain speaker sounds much better.

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I mean at this point, I love my device and wouldn't of chosen anything over it if I had to choose again.

However, we're closing in on the release of the Note 4, I mean if there is any way you could just get a cheap phone for a few months and hold out, then that's what I would do.

Otherwise I would still go all in on the Note 3, it's a fantastic device, very fast and smooth, great battery life, and great features, even when rooted
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I like my Note 3 and if I were buying today I would still choose it over anything out there, but as said above, the Note 4 is due for announcement in September and release probably in October, might be worth looking at that first, however the price will be high to buy outright and contracts priced high, but this may be a good time to get a Note 3 also, if you ain't impressed with the Note 4.
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Today I'd wait for the N4. If I didn't know there was a 4 coming I'd buy this phone again in a second. It's a great phone.
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Honestly, I like a lot about my Note 3, but I'm a former Moto Droid Razr Maxx HD user, and in my findings, that had wayyy better signal than my Note 3. I find myself at home with no signal more than 50% of the time. Sitting on the couch, I go from 1 bar to no signal back and forth which drains the battery a little, and of course I miss phone calls and get delayed text and voicemail notifications. I keep WiFi on, so I don't know how the 4G holds up. But at work (5 miles from my house) I have an excellent signal. When I'm out and about, it varies. All in all though, this kinda makes me miss my Moto.
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I've always thought that moto always had a lock down on signal quality and throughput.

since they make most of the tower equipment.

I'm also thinking about oneplus
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since they make most of the tower equipment.

I'm also thinking about oneplus
Motorola always has a lock down on signal and call quality. I have always known that their devices are good for that.

They have some good built quality too, if you're interested in that as well.
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One main thing that made me sway away from Moto for the first time is that I had felt they were running behind on their game for a while. I started with the Razr flip phone which I had for a very long time. best non-smart phone of all time, I believe.

After that I went to a Samsung windows 5 phone which blew chunks.

My first droid was the Moto OG droid. Had that for 2 years, liked it for what it was back in the day. Moved to droid Bionic. It sucked. I'm sure you've heard the horror stories. Went to Razr Maxx HD, and that I must say was my fav phone of all time. Very solid phone all around. The only thing I wasn't happy about was only the 1 gig of Ram.

When the next line came out, they dropped the "Razr" and came with the Maxx, and the Ultra, and the "M". Those now had 2 gigs of Ram, but many other phones had 3, such as the Note 3.

I don't fully regret switching from the Razr to the Note 3, but I do miss the Razr quite often, and am thinking possibly in Oct of 2015 when It's time for my upgrade, I'll definitely be checking out whatever Moto line is available at that time before considering another Samy.

Don't get me wrong, I like Samy's interface, just wish it was more reliable when it comes to their radios. I think the physicality could slightly improve also. Their phones don't seem as solid to me. I feel like it's more delicate than the Moto's I've had.

Best of luck on whatever you choose to go with!
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When the next line came out, they dropped the "Razr" and came with the Maxx, and the Ultra, and the "M". Those now had 2 gigs of Ram, but many other phones had 3, such as the Note 3.

I don't fully regret switching from the Razr to the Note 3, but I do miss the Razr quite often, and am thinking possibly in Oct of 2015 when It's time for my upgrade, I'll definitely be checking out whatever Moto line is available at that time before considering another Samy.
Honestly having 3GB of RAM honestly really doesn't make that much of a difference from 2GB. The MAXX was a great device, had good battery life, not too much bloatware, and good signal/call quality.

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From what I understand, if you want the features/benefits of a tablet and stylus, get the Note. If you don't care about those things but want all the other horsepower and features, get the S. I went with the Note 3 last October and I LOVE it. I would buy it again in a second. I will be thrilled to see what the Note 4 or 5 offers when it's time for me to replace the Note 3
Totally agree. Get the Note if you want to be able to use the stylus (love it). If you don't care, then the S5 would be my next choice. Lots of nice stuff out there these days.
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so here's the deal - I have had my Moto Razr for over 2 years and it's been great.

no case, no screen sticker, solid - held up to whatever. always worked and I could go 2 days on it if I had to.

it's been awesome - I even rooted it eventually. so, today it died - the bank shot was epic, so there is that.

however I need a new device - and I'm leaning toward a few things but I keep coming back to a note 3.

so you all that own one - would you buy it again today if you had the choice to.

I'm torn between the note 3, the Galaxy 5 and the potential of the LG G3. moto is sadly dead to me
With the G3 about to release and just around the corner, I'd actually have considered the G3 over the Note 3, simply due to the overall form factor (smaller physically w/ same screen size as the Note 2). I can't say that I wouldn't miss the S-pen and all that it helps me accomplish. Quite honestly, the only thing that holds me back from considering other lines is the S-pen.

Now, if S-pen isn't a factor for you and I were in your position (phone died), I'd purchase a backup phone to suffer with for 2-3 months, wait for the Note 4 to be released, and then choose between the Note 4 and G3 at that time. Those are the only 2 devices that I'd personally consider right now.

For the reason you're experiencing right now, I always have a backup beater phone. Older Android phone, so that I won't be completely deprived, but didn't cost me an arm and a leg to purchase off ebay. If you can find someone's Verizon phone to use temporarily, 1sale.com or dailysteals.com typically has had phone blowout sales (off contract phones) that at times, include Verizon and Sprint variants. Right now, Daily Steals actually has the Note 2 variant for Sprint at a much cheaper off contract price than you'll find anywhere else. At one point, I saw the Droid Bionic for $79 (off contract) and Droid Maxx for $79 (off contract). Those are the types of deals to jump on, especially for a backup phone, just for those "rainy day" situations.
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Like everyone else, I would also definitely go with the Note 3 again. My last phone was the RAZR MAXX HD and it ruined me forever with regard to battery life - I cannot have a phone that does not have great battery life. I really liked my RMHD, it had great call quality and signal but it was also very laggy compared to the N3.

The Note 3 has good call quality but the radios definitely are not as strong and the signal strength weaker - a consideration if you are in an area(s) that don't have the best signal. But on every other function the Note 3 kicks butt in my opinion. I did root my RMHD but chose not to with the Note 3.

I use the S-Pen a lot more than I thought I would, but not a ton. I almost never use the multi-screen and thought I would. I'm looking forward to what the Note 4 has to offer but I don't see upgrading anytime soon unless there is something that's just over the top better.
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If this question were asked of me a few months ago my answer would've been no. Previous phone being the Note 2, I don't see a *huge* difference between that & the Note 3.

Moving forward if I were in your position I'd just buy something cheap & usable just to carry me over to the Note 4 release.
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I'd buy the Note 3 again. I'm really enjoying the large screen and power for watching videos. Actually I'm leaning towards an HTC One (M8) at the moment though. I really want to find out what stereo speakeks bring to the Android experience and screen wise while not as large as a Note 3 5 inches isn't exactly what I'd call small.
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Yes and I'd pay a lot less for it.

Or wait to September/October if you can?
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No. That was the Nokia 6310i.
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Or wait to September/October if you can?
Yeah at this point I would definitely try and wait until the release of the N4.

It will be an upgrade, although it isn't looking like it's going to be a massive one from the N3.
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Yeah at this point I would definitely try and wait until the release of the N4.

It will be an upgrade, although it isn't looking like it's going to be a massive one from the N3.
I guess its all relative based on what you find important and "must have". I may not update for a faster processor but I would seriously consider it for a better display, battery or memory. So, while some crazy fools will be camping out in lines waiting on those new iPhone 6's with the lousy batteries, I'll be quietly plotting my acquisition of the Note 4 because an improvement to the Note 3 is just going to be better.
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I guess its all relative based on what you find important and "must have". I may not update for a faster processor but I would seriously consider it for a better display, battery or memory. So, while some crazy fools will be camping out in lines waiting on those new iPhone 6's with the lousy batteries, I'll be quietly plotting my acquisition of the Note 4 because an improvement to the Note 3 is just going to be better.
Yeah I mean, I love my Note 3 don't get me wrong, just as a tech freak I really enjoy moving around devices. I really don't know what I want yet, however, the big display and really good battery life I have gotten from the N3 is going to be a hard one to beat .

I would actually be extremely interested in a phablet from Motorola.
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I guess its all relative based on what you find important and "must have". I may not update for a faster processor but I would seriously consider it for a better display, battery or memory. So, while some crazy fools will be camping out in lines waiting on those new iPhone 6's with the lousy batteries, I'll be quietly plotting my acquisition of the Note 4 because an improvement to the Note 3 is just going to be better.
I'd jump at a far better radio [phone]. Not going to happen.
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so grabbed my note 3 on the vz promo today.

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looking for a case now. thank you all for your help and input. Why I didn't way for the 4

rumor has it they are going to make an attempt with their own processor and SOC base design again - while it will have a qhd screen and some other nice - supposedly 64 bit. the processor and soc are a touch too new for me to jump onto.

there is also talk the new note 4 will debut their new OS overlay and that's just too much new in one box for me to want.

besides I got a great price
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There as many opinions as there are cases and a number of threads on this here.

I'm more than happy with my UAG but you have to decide if you want max protection and big or less protection and smaller. Also do you want a flip cover or not?

Otterbox seems to be a common choice for those after maximum protection and bulk.

If you opt for a ZeroLemon huge battery for extended life then it comes with a big case anyway.
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We have a thread dedicated to cases here: Note 3 cases?
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so grabbed my note 3 on the vz promo today.

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looking for a case now. thank you all for your help and input. Why I didn't way for the 4

rumor has it they are going to make an attempt with their own processor and SOC base design again - while it will have a qhd screen and some other nice - supposedly 64 bit. the processor and soc are a touch too new for me to jump onto.

there is also talk the new note 4 will debut their new OS overlay and that's just too much new in one box for me to want.

besides I got a great price
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Hands down...YES! No question about it. Love it. The Note 3 signal is much improved over my old Samsung Galaxy Nexus. So, even though Motorola may overall have better signal, the Note 3 isn't far behind it.

Another note: I have the Zerolemon 10,000 mah battery and case for my Note 3 and love it. The case is tough and I can go 5 days without recharging it...makes it feel like a real phone. http://zerolemon.com/
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so here's the deal - I have had my Moto Razr for over 2 years and it's been great.

no case, no screen sticker, solid - held up to whatever. always worked and I could go 2 days on it if I had to.

it's been awesome - I even rooted it eventually. so, today it died - the bank shot was epic, so there is that.

however I need a new device - and I'm leaning toward a few things but I keep coming back to a note 3.

so you all that own one - would you buy it again today if you had the choice to.

I'm torn between the note 3, the Galaxy 5 and the potential of the LG G3. moto is sadly dead to me
I would pull the trigger on the note® 3 again today. Bought mine when i purchased my wife's S5 on release day back in April. Upgraded my S4 to the note. The only phone I like as much is the S5. I chose the note over the S5 for the bigger screen real estate. Neither are a disappointment.
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Napalm, one suggestion I do have is to go in and check the lg g3 out, before your return period is up. It's definitely a worthy contender for top smartphone honors.
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so here's the deal - I have had my Moto Razr for over 2 years and it's been great.

no case, no screen sticker, solid - held up to whatever. always worked and I could go 2 days on it if I had to.

it's been awesome - I even rooted it eventually. so, today it died - the bank shot was epic, so there is that.

however I need a new device - and I'm leaning toward a few things but I keep coming back to a note 3.

so you all that own one - would you buy it again today if you had the choice to.

I'm torn between the note 3, the Galaxy 5 and the potential of the LG G3. moto is sadly dead to me
I would actually be extremely suggested Samsung Galaxy S3
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yup I'd buy it again without question. Its brilliant in almost all aspects....the camera could be better...
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Absolutely YES! Its probably the most complete smartphone that I have ever used, having owned the original Note I really appreciate the stylus and large screen.

In almost every aspect... sound quality, speed, battery life, quality of screen, it all excels. The camera however is a little bit of a let down, but it is adequate in good lighting condition.

I have been tempted and tested both HTC One (M8) and the S5 before choosing to buy the note 3, and I am glad that I did.

The note 3 is a solid android device.
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Absolutely YES! Its probably the most complete smartphone that I have ever used, having owned the original Note I really appreciate the stylus and large screen.

In almost every aspect... sound quality, speed, battery life, quality of screen, it all excels. The camera however is a little bit of a let down, but it is adequate in good lighting condition.

I have been tempted and tested both HTC One (M8) and the S5 before choosing to buy the note 3, and I am glad that I did.

The note 3 is a solid android device.
That's definitely an interesting experience. I would've liked to see how far the Note 3 has came compared to the Note 1. The Note series always seemed like a device I needed to try out. I am very happy I did, I just would of enjoyed trying out the original.
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Absolutely YES! Its probably the most complete smartphone that I have ever used, having owned the original Note I really appreciate the stylus and large screen.

In almost every aspect... sound quality, speed, battery life, quality of screen, it all excels. The camera however is a little bit of a let down, but it is adequate in good lighting condition.
As a phone it's awful. I'm told all smartphones are bad but the Note 3 is truly dreadful. Falls out in many areas completely where a ten-year-old dumb phone is solid.

Battery life is also dreadful but I'm told comparable to other smartphones. Also awful.
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As a phone it's awful. I'm told all smartphones are bad but the Note 3 is truly dreadful. Falls out in many areas completely where a ten-year-old dumb phone is solid.

Battery life is also dreadful but I'm told comparable to other smartphones. Also awful.
If those 10 year old "dumb phones" did half the things today devices did they're battery life wouldnt be any good either. Unfortunately battery technology hasn't kept up with camera, miniaturization, CPUs, gpus, ect.

You should be able to get a least a full day of use out of any current flagship smartphone - which honestly is about as much as most people need.

Outside of the battery - smartphones are far superior to their older counterparts.

You are carrying the equivalent of a tiny computer in your pocket - internet, email, relatively advanced games, messaging, ect

I bet "actually using a phone as a phone" accounts for less than 5% of my daily use.
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If those 10 year old "dumb phones" did half the things today devices did they're battery life wouldnt be any good either. Unfortunately battery technology hasn't kept up with camera, miniaturization, CPUs, gpus, ect.
I've heard all this before and I'm unimpressed. (1) the batteries are much bigger and (2) you've already made the other point.

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My last phone gave me 5 days which suited me fine. Still very unimpressed with the new 'well under a day'. People have been joking about it all the time now in light of the new security air travel regs. I think "most people" have a reasonable expectation for 24 hours of use rather than a measly 6.

Yes I know it's a computer and the battery life is awful and the "phone" capabilities are pathetic. We don't all live or work in cities with a tower every two blocks.

In both aspects, phones have got worse and I really don't think there's any excuse for such inadequate reduced phone-phone performance. What were they thinking of?
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My last phone gave me 5 days which suited me fine. Still very unimpressed with the new 'well under a day'. People have been joking about it all the time now in light of the new security air travel regs. I think "most people" have a reasonable expectation for 24 hours of use rather than a measly 6.

Yes I know it's a computer and the battery life is awful and the "phone" capabilities are pathetic. We don't all live or work in cities with a tower every two blocks.

In both aspects, phones have got worse and I really don't think there's any excuse for such inadequate reduced phone-phone performance. What were they thinking of?
Honestly you can get an extended battery. I have heard that the 6000mAh batteries last a few days.

I have also heard that the 10000mAh battery lasts like up to a week.
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My last phone gave me 5 days which suited me fine. Still very unimpressed with the new 'well under a day'. People have been joking about it all the time now in light of the new security air travel regs. I think "most people" have a reasonable expectation for 24 hours of use rather than a measly 6.

Yes I know it's a computer and the battery life is awful and the "phone" capabilities are pathetic. We don't all live or work in cities with a tower every two blocks.

In both aspects, phones have got worse and I really don't think there's any excuse for such inadequate reduced phone-phone performance. What were they thinking of?
Compared to a tablet or a laptop the battery is miles better. Just plug it in when you go to bed and its fully charged when you wake up. Seriously, unless you live where there is no electricity what's the big issue?
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Compared to a tablet or a laptop the battery is miles better.
I'm comparing it to the ten year old phone I was using until last year. Not to a laptop. I don't carry the laptop around to make phone calls on or rely on it for that.

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I am frequently nowhere near any mains power for 12-14 hours. Woe is me if it's 36 hours.

There are ways round this, I know. For instance if I know I'm going to be in that situation, I have a 12000mAh External power pack brick. Used it three days ago after 8 hours in the city when my phone flattened itself. I've got spare batteries. I've also got a zerolemon but I tend not to use that as it makes the phone too big for the shoulder holsters I've always used. But this is not good. Not impressive at all.

None of which deals with the fact that these things are really hopeless as phones. This is 10-15 years on. Phones have actually got worse as actual phones is what I'm saying. They are big enough for a bigger internal aerial so what gives?

(One of these days I'm going to have to install a micro-cell at home. Never had that problem before with any phone. It doesn't help that micro-cells are illegal here.)
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If you want just a phone and for it to last 5 days, why have you bought a computer, camera, scanner, games device, email system, network device, and everything else from a music player to a torch? They can only do so much and there has to be a compromise. Unfortunately batteries haven't kept up with tech. I agree it needs to be better but then you wouldn't have the power of beyond a decent laptop.
If you turn off all the functions battery life will of course increase lol.
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If you want just a phone and for it to last 5 days, why have you bought a computer, camera, scanner, games device, email system, network device, and everything else from a music player to a torch? They can only do so much and there has to be a compromise. Unfortunately batteries haven't kept up with tech. I agree it needs to be better but then you wouldn't have the power of beyond a decent laptop.
If you turn off all the functions battery life will of course increase lol.
...and figure out some way to make use that big, gorgeous ZL battery. If you want lot's of capacity, there's no better way to get it than that.
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If you want just a phone and for it to last 5 days, why have you bought a computer, camera, scanner, games device, email system, network device, and everything else from a music player to a torch? They can only do so much and there has to be a compromise. Unfortunately batteries haven't kept up with tech. I agree it needs to be better but then you wouldn't have the power of beyond a decent laptop.
If you turn off all the functions battery life will of course increase lol.
There's an argument for carrying a smart"phone" as what it is - a pocket computer of limited telephonic utility and a separate real phone for - you know - making and taking phone calls all over the place. That has occurred to me and is still under active consideration. In the meantime, I'd jump at one of these things that was actually a halfway decent phone. I haven't seen a convincing explanation as to why the manufacturers haven't bothered. By all accounts iPhones are also pretty shoddy as phones.
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Mine works as a phone! Takes messages as well, and does call forwarding!
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I have also heard that the 10000mAh battery lasts like up to a week.
You are correct. I have the ZeroLemon 10,000 mAh battery and I can go 5 days without a charge. Some people will always see the negative in everything and some people will look for the positive. I usually tend to venture toward the negative myself

Smartphones are wonderful, but stock batteries are horrible and phone reception in rural areas is usually crap...to say the least. Most of these smartphones are centered more around mobile computers than actual telephones. The Nexus was really bad...my Note 3 has better reception than the Nexus, but that really doesn't say much. My Motorola Droid and Droid X would run circles around both in reception.
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So does mine - in urban areas. Very well indeed.

Urban areas are somewhere I'm seldom actually in, thank god.
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