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Old April 4th, 2012, 01:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default will ics fix this lag? seriously considering going back to s2

I know some might not want to admit it but YES there is lag with the note. It is NOT as snappy as the s2. I love this phone i just with it was as fast as the s2. And what the heck is with the 800mg of ram?!?!?! C Mon att. My question is Will ics fix most of these problems? I can live with the ram. But the lag is unacceptable. And when is ics coming? Your thoughts please guys.

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I hope so because i love my note i just wish it didn't lag on simple things like opening contacts or phone dialer i wait forever for Facebook to open also.
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Dude i know i love this phone. I really don't want to ga back to s2 but you said it earlier its the simple stuff that lags. Lock screen,contacts, phone, opening and closing browser. OH! And the stock browser is terrible. Even on wifi i still get boxes when i scroll. So annoying. Keyboard is like a split second behind. Man i hope they fix it.
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I'm not noticing any lag. If you're talking about the 1 second pause before the apps pull up, I barely consider that lag.
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No noticeable lag for me, either. But, I'm also not running any custom launchers, widgets, etc.

Phone is very responsive.
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Same here, this is the snappiest phone I have ever had and I love it. Now sure what the fuss is about with the lag because even on my monster PC that is built like a super computer, I get occasional "lag" on stuff. Just the nature of computing.
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My phone lags opening basic things and its more than one second. when i hit my contacts list i can count 1 2 3 and on 4 it comes up so you guys tell me thats normal? email is the same way hell even when tapping the applications or into setting it will do this. sometimes its blistering fast mostly it's really slow. my phone is stock no launchers nothing its stock. i have read reports online of others having this problem too.
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My phone lags opening basic things and its more than one second. when i hit my contacts list i can count 1 2 3 and on 4 it comes up so you guys tell me thats normal? email is the same way hell even when tapping the applications or into setting it will do this. sometimes its blistering fast mostly it's really slow. my phone is stock no launchers nothing its stock. i have read reports online of others having this problem too.
Ok, your case is a bit more extreme as mine has NO issues with any of the apps you mentioned.

Mine is completely stock as well. No non-stock launchers or anything like that.

My suggestion would be to try a full, clean, factory reset and see if that helps. Something in the load may have been pooched?

If that does not help, maybe an exchange.
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I have a theory that something is going on with the processor management on some phones but it is difficult to test

Do you guys have cpu spy? install it and check the speeds at the end of day compared to screen on times.

I think the processor in some notes is getting "stuck" at lower speeds but it's just a silly hunch at this point.

I know a few have exchanged their devices and found that the lag was actually because the phone was defective
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Not getting any real lag over here... I come from an iphone, and while it's definitely not as smooth as that, there's also a whole heck of a lot more going on inside this phone than my iphone.

If you're concerned with lag, rooting tends to help doesn't it?
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I have noticable lag too on my Note, but it doesn't bother me much. I'm coming from an iPhone 4S so I can definitely notice the difference. I'm sure the ICS update will fix such issues as lag.
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I have the Telus version which is the same as the ATT one but with NO bloat ware. Just a clean stock rom.

I have NO lag opening the dialer or any application, or lock screen. And I mean NO lag.

Try CPU spy. I am not sure if ATT decided to modify the kernel and which CPU governor is controlling the phone.

I'm desperately waiting for someone to create a rooted Telus rom/kernel. I'm not using anything built from ATT.

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I use to always run my phone in power save mode and it use to lag pretty bad, turned power save mode off and have not had any lag since.
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I also have lag on my note, i came from using a moto photon with the latest version available of android for the device and i was able to run widgets and background apps with very little to almost always no lag , and with my note i cant even run half of the widgets or background apps because it lags very harsh ... i reset my phone twice and still experience the lag , i run hidden lock, widget locker , HD widgets, beautiful widgets , fb widgets etc nothing that a phone with that much power could not handle , and why does the OS on my note eat the ram so much?? if any info or suggestions to improve my performance on my note i would appreciate it ... thanks
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I updated my note ith the at&t leaked version of ICS amd it nearly killed my note. ICS made my phone slow,laggy, and freeze up sometimes. Definitely not as fast as gingerbread. I upgraded back to 2.3.6 and everything is good now.
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I updated my note ith the at&t leaked version of ICS amd it nearly killed my note. ICS made my phone slow,laggy, and freeze up sometimes. Definitely not as fast as gingerbread. I upgraded back to 2.3.6 and everything is good now.
I would bet it was just a bad flash.

Rinse and repeat, following OP instructions to a "T" (assuming you tried flashing Dgr8's ICS ROM from XDA).

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I'm using a Rogers Galaxy Note LTE SGH-i717R and experience some lag only when waking the phone. After that though, it's pretty responsive. It does have some Rogers bloatware in it, but I don't run them and just taking up room in the phone.

I have Power Saving mode enabled only if I dip below 30%. Even with that, it pops up a window asking if I want to enable it or not.

But it's running good so far.
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Completely stock here and haven't self bloated either. Runs nicely. I get the occasional studder but not "lag".

I do get lag from my class 2 sd card though, but that's not the phone's fault.
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Ok guys i took the advice of some here on the board and hard reset my note and i must say something must have been a miss because this phone is now very fast and lag free so far. i recommend to anyone that is considering getting rid of the note to do this b4 you do. 100% satisfied thanks guys for the help
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Just returned my s2 and picked up a note for $250 off contract. I couldn't pass up the deal. This phone is amazing looking(especially in white), but I've already noticed that it's nowhere near as smooth as the s2 and certain apps are glitchy. Any thoughts on why that would be or if there's a quick fix? I could go back to the s2 for $140 off contract, but this screen is soooo nice.
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Just returned my s2 and picked up a note for $250 off contract. I couldn't pass up the deal.
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Just returned my s2 and picked up a note for $250 off contract. I couldn't pass up the deal. This phone is amazing looking(especially in white), but I've already noticed that it's nowhere near as smooth as the s2 and certain apps are glitchy. Any thoughts on why that would be or if there's a quick fix? I could go back to the s2 for $140 off contract, but this screen is soooo nice.
Check out hard reset mine was brand new just a few days old and i still had to hard reset and now my phone is smooth running.
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It's a secret...it took me a total of 8 hours and 4 stores. The rep was super nice and he gave me 60% off the msrp. It can be done if they owe you a favor for some reason. It really does depend on the rep. I got really lucky. 99% of the time you either have to pay full price or get the contract deal. I thought for sure something would go wrong when he was checking me out. When i walked out of the store I was in shock. It'll never happen again in my lifetime!
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Thanks! Hard reset worked. It's a noticeable difference. Wonder what the deal is with that?
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Thanks! Hard reset worked. It's a noticeable difference. Wonder what the deal is with that?
I don't know but i read on here that it may have been the Cpu getting hung up because something wasn't installed correctly from factory. i could honestly count 1 2 3 4 and my browser would open and literally all my other apps like contact and calculator. even the phone dialer would lag when i pressed a number key and when texting it was god awful. but now it is smooth fast and No lag what so ever. glad i could pass on the knowledge.
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i dont have lag opening apps, but my homescreen is really laggy, with animations off and everything. ive tried every homescreen, go, launcherpro, adw ex, all lag. will the hard reset fix this? or is that only going to fix the extreme lag cases?
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i dont have lag opening apps, but my homescreen is really laggy, with animations off and everything. ive tried every homescreen, go, launcherpro, adw ex, all lag. will the hard reset fix this? or is that only going to fix the extreme lag cases?
I am not a expert but i did have that issue also and it worked for me and my phone has zero lag opening at the lock screen to were before it did a lot.
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A hard reset is just pressing a couple buttons and doesn't delete anything you have on the phone, correct? I haven't bought my Note yet but I'm going to soon.

Which buttons do you press to do a hard reset?

And isn't a hard reset the same as taking the battery out and putting it back in?
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A hard reset is just pressing a couple buttons and doesn't delete anything you have on the phone, correct? I haven't bought my Note yet but I'm going to soon.

Which buttons do you press to do a hard reset?

And isn't a hard reset the same as taking the battery out and putting it back in?
What you're referring to would really just be a soft-reboot.

Samsung phones have a 3-button combo that will push them into recovery (if you have recovery installed on your phone; different topic for another conversation), but this three button combo will not reset anything.

A hard reset is going into the phone settings menu and scrolling all the way down to "Backup and Reset". Once you click that, you will be fully wiped of all your stuff, so be prepared for what you're doing by creating appropriate backups, etc. (many threads over on XDA that explain this process for numerous phones, etc).

You can also do a wipe data/factory reset through recovery (again, once you've installed a recovery) but this is not as full a wipe as you get by doing it through the phone's settings menu. This method tends to leave certain things floating around and intact.

Hope this helps somewhat without creating confusion.

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Check out hard reset mine was brand new just a few days old and i still had to hard reset and now my phone is smooth running.

How do you do the hard reset? Thanks
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lOl. Never mind I read the above about the hard reset. I do have another question. I have always had a Iphone and backing up was simple. How do you go about backing up your apps and data on the android phones that are not rooted? I love my note. Only occationaly I will launch the phone app and it will sometimes take a second other times there is no lag at all. Also on the samsung email it seems to take a good second or two to open when the Gmail app just opens right up. I have decided to switch to the GMail app because of that.

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What you're referring to would really just be a soft-reboot.

Samsung phones have a 3-button combo that will push them into recovery (if you have recovery installed on your phone; different topic for another conversation), but this three button combo will not reset anything.

A hard reset is going into the phone settings menu and scrolling all the way down to "Backup and Reset". Once you click that, you will be fully wiped of all your stuff, so be prepared for what you're doing by creating appropriate backups, etc. (many threads over on XDA that explain this process for numerous phones, etc).

You can also do a wipe data/factory reset through recovery (again, once you've installed a recovery) but this is not as full a wipe as you get by doing it through the phone's settings menu. This method tends to leave certain things floating around and intact.

Hope this helps somewhat without creating confusion.

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So if a hard reset resets the phone to when you first bought it, how can doing a hard reset help with lag? I mean, if I bought a Note tomorrow and the next day I did a hard reset, wouldn't it just reset the phone to the previous day???
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So if a hard reset resets the phone to when you first bought it, how can doing a hard reset help with lag? I mean, if I bought a Note tomorrow and the next day I did a hard reset, wouldn't it just reset the phone to the previous day???

When performing a hard reset, you will lose everything. It will set it up the way it was when you first got it.
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So if a hard reset resets the phone to when you first bought it, how can doing a hard reset help with lag? I mean, if I bought a Note tomorrow and the next day I did a hard reset, wouldn't it just reset the phone to the previous day???
Basically the way i was told is that the CPU may get hung up when activating and installation of firmware and software. When you hard reset the phone it erases and reinstalls all this stuff over again. like i stated above i am not a expert i just know my note was brand new and lagged like crazy to the point of annoyance and i reset it and now it runs as smooth as any iPhone and faster at that. the way i did it with at&t is by holding the power button and volume up button until a screen pops up asking you if you want to restore the phone and i assure you it will erase everything i stored everything to my micro SD card and took it out then when it reset all my numbers where migrated from at&t which i didn't know would happen.
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Basically the way i was told is that the CPU may get hung up when activating and installation of firmware and software. When you hard reset the phone it erases and reinstalls all this stuff over again. like i stated above i am not a expert i just know my note was brand new and lagged like crazy to the point of annoyance and i reset it and now it runs as smooth as any iPhone and faster at that. the way i did it with at&t is by holding the power button and volume up button until a screen pops up asking you if you want to restore the phone and i assure you it will erase everything i stored everything to my micro SD card and took it out then when it reset all my numbers where migrated from at&t which i didn't know would happen.
I don't mean to keep harping on this but I'm just trying to figure this out. Wouldn't it be better after I buy the Note to activate it, do a hard reset, THEN put my apps, pics and music on there. That way I don't delete them when doing the hard reset.
The phone has been out for a little over a month or so and already it needs to be hard reset???
Ok Ok, I'll let it go until I actually get my Note. haha. IF it lags, I'll come back for questions.
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I don't mean to keep harping on this but I'm just trying to figure this out. Wouldn't it be better after I buy the Note to activate it, do a hard reset, THEN put my apps, pics and music on there. That way I don't delete them when doing the hard reset.
The phone has been out for a little over a month or so and already it needs to be hard reset???
Ok Ok, I'll let it go until I actually get my Note. haha. IF it lags, I'll come back for questions.
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I don't mean to keep harping on this but I'm just trying to figure this out. Wouldn't it be better after I buy the Note to activate it, do a hard reset, THEN put my apps, pics and music on there. That way I don't delete them when doing the hard reset.
The phone has been out for a little over a month or so and already it needs to be hard reset???
Ok Ok, I'll let it go until I actually get my Note. haha. IF it lags, I'll come back for questions.
I mean yeah do the reset first but no one knows what causes it so you never know what or when it happens. it's a great phone and i have had to do hard resets on iPhones and other android phones alike so it happens not like it's a sign of a problematic device.
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Interesting thing guys...

I poked around the build.prop of my Note and to my surprise I saw that Telus automatically enabled GPU hardware acceleration out of the box. This is not the case on the International note and I suspect the same on the ATT note.

I applied my custom tweaks and now the phone is VERY smooth.

If you would like to learn how to modify your build.prop you can PM me. It is very easy to do.
You do have to be rooted and need Root Explorer to be able to see your build.prop file.
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I think this thread would be helpful to all the new members if it were a sticky ? anyone else agree ????
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I got mines for less than $200 at best buy.. It's amazing what deals you can get depending on where you go!
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I have Stock and there is ways to make it run smoothly it's on knowing on how to use the device. I don't see any lag on my NOTE LTE I came from I Phone 3GS that had WEB lagging. and plus not front camera.

Where I live I get 4G Speed on my NOTE
A lot more smoother then the I phone 3GS A smartphone is a smartphone if you don't like it then take it back it's your decision and your life.
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Here are some general tips for keeping your phone snappy, coming
from an older Galaxy S phone user.

1) Don't use active wall papers
2) Don't use widgets
3) Uninstall bloated apps. Go into Settings->Applications->Running (or something like that) to see what Apps are running. Uninstall as many of those as you can, or configure those apps not to be running all the time. Some apps like to run all the time, eating CPU and memory. When your phone needs memory it will kill the app, then the app will reload itself. Both take time. The smaller your running apps list is, the more available memory you will have and the faster your phone will feel.
4) Download Autostarts from the app store and examine the actions that apps have registered themselves too. This will reveal apps that like to run themselves everytime you turn your screen on or get internet connectivity, for example. Either disable or uninstall them.
5) Buy the ad-free version of apps. The ads cost you battery and bandwidth, and make your phone slower and uglier.
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Here are some general tips for keeping your phone snappy, coming
from an older Galaxy S phone user.

1) Don't use active wall papers
2) Don't use widgets
3) Uninstall bloated apps. Go into Settings->Applications->Running (or something like that) to see what Apps are running. Uninstall as many of those as you can, or configure those apps not to be running all the time. Some apps like to run all the time, eating CPU and memory. When your phone needs memory it will kill the app, then the app will reload itself. Both take time. The smaller your running apps list is, the more available memory you will have and the faster your phone will feel.
4) Download Autostarts from the app store and examine the actions that apps have registered themselves too. This will reveal apps that like to run themselves everytime you turn your screen on or get internet connectivity, for example. Either disable or uninstall them.
5) Buy the ad-free version of apps. The ads cost you battery and bandwidth, and make your phone slower and uglier.


With all due respect, I'm not sure that advising people to not use Widgets is the way to go. I would recommend that you not have 7 home screens with 3 Widgets per screen for sure, but I have about 5 Widgets active between 3 home screens and never experience any lag. The real key to reducing screen switch lag is minimizing or turning off animations.

After all, Widgets are one of the things that differentiates Android from iOS on a UI level.....

Just my $.02.

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With all due respect, I'm not sure that advising people to not use Widgets is the way to go. I would recommend that you not have 7 home screens with 3 Widgets per screen for sure, but I have about 5 Widgets active between 3 home screens and never experience any lag. The real key to reducing screen switch lag is minimizing or turning off animations.

After all, Widgets are one of the things that differentiates Android from iOS on a UI level.....

Just my $.02.

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I had a photo showcase widget on my tablet and I'm pretty sure it was a battery killer, so I've avoided them since then. I'm not sure how resource intensive they are. Having them probably doesn't make things any faster though.
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Dumb question but what are these animations that you can turn on and off in the display settings?
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Just returned my s2 and picked up a note for $250 off contract. I couldn't pass up the deal. This phone is amazing looking(especially in white), but I've already noticed that it's nowhere near as smooth as the s2 and certain apps are glitchy. Any thoughts on why that would be or if there's a quick fix? I could go back to the s2 for $140 off contract, but this screen is soooo nice.
I had to register and ask how the hell did you get a Note for $250 "Off Contract"?!
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I had to register and ask how the hell did you get a Note for $250 "Off Contract"?!
Haha. Everyone keeps asking that. I heard through the grapevine that they we're able to give a discount of up to 60% off the msrp, but you still had to sign a contract. I thought that was kind of pointless for most phones, but for the note, it worked out to be less than the on contract price so I figured I'd ask. One store said it wasn't possible....another said yes, but you need a special type of account(not sure what kind)...another said yes, but if the on contract price is more, you have to pay that plus an upgrade fee. The last store I hit, I struck gold. The guy said I could do that on all the phones accept for the fruity phone. He also said only certain types of accounts get the deal and it would be a no contract or no upgrade deal, which meant no upgrade fee either. He checked my account, I qualified, and I was done(I think he just hooked me up). I was in shock when I walked out. I'm still not sure if he screwed up, but I'll take it. I was seriously expecting a call from him at some point to tell me they had to upgrade me for another 2 years.....it never happened. So now I'm sitting on a Note with 2 upgrades for both of my lines.
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OK....I'm a complete novice....""" BUT """, I too was experiencing a lag when going to my different apps. A few seconds of a black screen (1-3 secs) before my app would open. It made me very unhappy with my new "high performance" note". What I'm about to say may be totally known by everyone but as a novice it wasn't known by me. Therefore maybe some others have no idea as well......... If you go to an app when you first use your phone after it being off, (such as voice talk or S memo), there is a black screen for 1-3 secs. Here's the key.........If you push the "back button", it closes down the app and the next time you need it, it will "again" need to be opened (therefore needing the 1-3 second black screen).......BUT....If you leave the app by pressing the "home button" instead of the back button, the app "remains open in the background"....It's there waiting for you to ''come back". It's ready for you to call upon it. Therefore no delay.. Now when you re-click on that app it will come back in an instant. The downside of leaving your apps by pressing the home button instead of the back button is that that app is using RAM while sitting there ( I think-??). Maybe everyone knows this, but I didn't. Hope this helps some people.
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Thinking about buying a note tomorrow. Is ICS out for it yet? If not any idea when?
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I have a GS2. Love it. Best phone I've ever owned. Waiting for a GS3. My GF had an Infuse and loved it. So when we heard about the Note, it was marketed by our local ATT store as the best of both worlds: Same powerful hardware as the GS2, and a GARGANTUAN screen even bigger than her Infuse. So, we bought it. Wow. PROBLEMS. I have seen a few KIND OF addressed in different threads here, but none completely. So I am asking for advice, help, and guidance.
Issue #1: 4G Data. And ONLY 4G data. If we are in a major city, great. If not, phone is a brick. Makes calls and that's it. ATT says if you aren't in a 4G coverage area you have to type a LOOONNG code to make the phone switch to 2G to be able to pickup standard Edge networks. Then you have to type the LOONG code yo switch back in 4G areas. Thats crap for an $800 phone. Would rooting fix or give an option for toggling between Edge and 3G/4G?
Issue #2: Slowdown/Lag. All the time, while texting, typing in the browser, any text input, the on screen text lags far behind the input. Also, when closing out of apps, the home screen renders widget by widget. So if I am in the browser, hit the home button, the app icons on the home screen will show up, then a second or two later the weather widget will pop up, then the clock. Simply ridiculous. This lag is consistent with all apps and closing in and out. Would rooting fix this?
Issue #3: The Stock Browser. Open the browser, browse, open several tabs, get a call, text message, or for any reason decide to hit home to leave the browser, and the browser will completely close. All tabs. Back to home when you open it again. No saving tabs, or the page you were on. Ever.
What gives? She is about to throw this poor GN out the window.
PS.- These are the things that have been tried so far:
Battery Removed several times a day
Rebooted by Holding down the power button until phone shits off (Hard Boot) several times a day.
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