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Old March 27th, 2012, 10:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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UPDATE: MORE UPDATES below on how I get close to 7 days on one battery charge. Hope it can help someone.

UPDATE HERE: If your battery drains overnight.

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Just thought I'd post this since I read a few threads about some people's battery draining over night etc.

Here is mine. I turn off Wi-Fi at night.

I charge mine in the evening, and I unplug it when I go to bed. Sleep about 9 hours. I seem to lose at most 1% battery overnight.

You can see that when I wake up in the morning, the phone checks my email with wi-fi and the battery starts to get used.

Anyways - just thought I'd post this to show that you don't need to have your battery drain down while you are sleeping.

1.I rooted.

2.Titanium Backup I FROZE:

Readers Hub
Social Hub
Software Update (I unfreeze when I want to check for a firmware update)
Voice Search
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Wi-Fi sharing

3. I installed SETCPU and leave it ON DEMAND for min 200 max 1400




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Mine isn't rooted and I get results very close to yours. My routine is similar to yours in that I charge in the evening (if it needs it) and kill wifi overnight. I also have 3G switched off unless I need it, purely because I live in a real dead spot for both GSM signal and 3G data. On average I lose 0.3% per hour overnight and only need to charge every other day, but then I am a light user phone wise. I still play games, watch vids, browse web & check emails though.
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Hmm..I now charge overnight and unplug it 6 or 7 hours later...with WiFi on so that the softwares can be auto-updated at night without intruding me
In the morning before go to office I turn off wifi and turn on data connection. With MP3 playing non stop, could last 12 hours or so before I go to bed, with <10% remaining.
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@GiggityGiggity, how do you turn off 3G without rooting your phone?

I leave Wifi on because I thought that drains battery less than 3g/4g. Isn't that the case.

Anyway, why would anyone not be charging overnight? I sometimes will do that just for testing the battery. But in normal usage, when I'm sleeping there is no reason why I can't be charging overnight.
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Anyway, why would anyone not be charging overnight? I sometimes will do that just for testing the battery. But in normal usage, when I'm sleeping there is no reason why I can't be charging overnight.
It's just preference. Makes sense to charge at night, but there is nowhere to charge mine where I sleep, land I keep mine beside me at all hours as I'm always on call.

I like z's idea of turning on wifi and sync when charging. It never occurred to me.
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Sir, can you post the complete settings of your SetCPU aside from the min and max Mhz on the Main tab?

Have you checked the "Set on Boot" after setting the min and max frequency?

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@GiggityGiggity, how do you turn off 3G without rooting your phone?

I leave Wifi on because I thought that drains battery less than 3g/4g. Isn't that the case.

Anyway, why would anyone not be charging overnight? I sometimes will do that just for testing the battery. But in normal usage, when I'm sleeping there is no reason why I can't be charging overnight.
Hold power button 3 secs a menu will pop up press the second option repeat to enable/disable data connection.

On note wifi consumes more battery then 3g if you live in a area with high and good signal quality.
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This one is simple to solve by using the inbuilt task manager (which I have on my "home" screen)

I often clear my active applications but you need to clear your ram to stop your battery drain. You don't lose any contacts, texts/mail or game scores/settings.

Worked 100% for me when my note was flat in the morning
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Wifi has always been the main drain of the battery, that and bluetooth. That's why the first iPhone was such a scam - Steve Jobs claimed 3G was too big a battery drain, despite allowing wifi!

You can automate turning off wifi, silencing your phone, etc every night by using the excellent Tasker app. It's a paid app, but it's great for automating various wifi / bluetooth options. For example, I have mine set to make my phone silent between midnight and 5am, and to turn off wifi until 6.30am when the Guardian app is scheduled to download its news media. It also turns on bluetooth for an hour during my daily commute in the car (only on weekdays of course).

I'm sure you could do a lot more with Tasker, but this was all I wanted it for. Just hope he supports NFC at some point!
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I use the JuiceDefender widget to force 3G on or off. I find it more reliable than holding the power button down and choosing to enable or disable it that way. Many times when I used the power button method to kill it I'd notice later on it was back on again in the background when it shouldn't be. The JuiceDefender widget has never failed me; once you force disable it it stays that way until you enable it again.
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.....I'm sure you could do a lot more with Tasker, but this was all I wanted it for. Just hope he supports NFC at some point!
I bought Tasker but it seemed a little overwhelming initially. I do intend to look into it with more detail but in the meantime I bought Setting Profiles. Obviously Tasker can do the exact same thing but I wanted something a little less 'involved'. It's just like the profiles apps from my Symbian days but with far more options. I'd definitely recommend it.
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Sir, can you post the complete settings of your SetCPU aside from the min and max Mhz on the Main tab?

Have you checked the "Set on Boot" after setting the min and max frequency?

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In the screen I posted above, that is my setup. I have not changed anything else. That's all I needed to do.
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Alright Sir, currently these are the things I've done already with my Galaxy Note:

1) Rooted my device.
2) Installed Titanium Backup Pro together with
3) Advanced Task Killer Free

I'm still observing if there will be a change with the battery life. I just charged my phone last night at around 9:45pm and it took more than 3 hours to get 100% fully charged.

Right now, upon looking on the running apps using Advanced Task Killer Free, I've notice that the ff: were running even after I restarted my phone:

1) Advanced Task Killer Free
2) Gallery
3) Mobile Security & Antivirus
4) Titanium Backup
5) Superuser
5) SetCPU

I just have a question, among these running apps in the background, which of them needs and/or okay to be frozen to reduce battery load?

Thank you so much.
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This 4500mAh Extended Battery for Samsung Galaxy Note is great:

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Longevity Battery Saver
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I am just kind of updating this thread as I make improvements to my battery life.

I'm now up to 6 days use and I have about 15% left on the charge.



*You will notice that the phone is awake much more than the screen is on. This is because my phone is used as a media player through a bluetooth stereo, or is being used for voice calls through a bluetooth landline handset.

I will update with my changes made shortly...
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I am just kind of updating this thread as I make improvements to my battery life.

I'm now up to 6 days use and I have about 15% left on the charge.
Wonderful! So, please, update the tutorial at the top of the page.
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4. NEW : I uninstalled BATTERYXL. When I came to these forums is was highly recommended. Uninstalling it gave me an additional 3 days of usage. I was getting 3 days with it and now I almost get 7 days without it.

I don't kill any processes ever. I keep the stock power widget on my home screen and only turn on/off wi-fi when it is needed. If I leave it to the systems built in power saving, or Batteryxl it never worked right.

I leave screen on Auto brightness.

Recently Samsung installed a new Push Client onto my Note on the last update. I froze that immediately.



Here is how I ended on that battery charge - almost onto the 7th day.





What I find interesting is that I leave Bluetooth on 24/7 - streaming music and used for almost all phone calls and it doesn't use more than 3% of the battery (doesn't even show in the top of the list).

I have updated the original post at the top with anything new I have done over the past week.
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only 15% on display? I usually got 60% plus on that one :| !
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Anyone used - 2x Battery - Battery Saver

is it better than BATTERYXL ?

Edit: I removed BATTERYXL
& have a better Battery Life now too

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only 15% on display? I usually got 60% plus on that one :| !
I understand, but remember mine is %15 over 6 full days.

If my battery lasted 3 days it would be 30%.

If my battery lasted 1.5 days it would be 60%.
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I really don't understand this obsession with getting the longest possible time out of your battery
I hope you don't think i'm speaking out of turn but:
When are you ever away from a power source for more than say 6 hours?
Why don't you just leave the phone plugged in at night?
Do you ACTUALLY use your phones or are you that obsessed with making the battery last that you daren't?
Tasker, I like the concept of the phone adapting to your routine, but once it is set up, if you deviate from that routine, you might as well not have bothered.
Let me explain, if your daily commute involves a car journey at 08:30 until 09:00 on weekdays, then yes it's cool that the bluetooth makes itself available without having to think about it. Now lets assume that you are delayed and at 09:00hrs you are still 10 mins away from your destination, you will have to manually turn bluetooth back on. I don't know many people who have such a metronomic lifestyle that they wouldn't need to constantly tweek their phone if using tasker.
I'd rather turn stuff off and on when I need them, it's not hard really is it. Go into a meeting, put phone on silent, long press on volume rocker, 5 seconds, done. Reckon it takes longer to programme tasker
Anyway, slightly off on a tangent there..... what's with the obsession about longest battery life
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Hahah ya. To me it's fun. Like, if you go to ANY forum for ANY piece of electronics with a battery - like cell phones, mp3 players, portable game systems, laptops etc - there is always threads on battery life.

I think it's the same niche market as over clocking. Some people love over clocking, they must do it, they have to squeeze as many cpu cycles as they can out of any device.

Or jailbreaking/rooting.

Not everyone is interested.
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Im using my note on and off throughout the day, no fixed routine. It would be great to have 2 configurable modes; 1) when screen is one , 2) when screen is off. Thus when the screen is on, all the bells and whistles can be programmed to come on because i am obviously in need of them (eg Wifi andor Bluetooth andor Cell connection, etc) and when screen off, i could program it to switch of all comms perhaps, going into "flight mode", sensors off, low cpu state, etc etc, or perhaps leaving on cell phone connection to monitor a call arriving, but with all other items which could be programmed off. You get the gist.

Does anyone know a program which can allow this?
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Hahah ya. To me it's fun. Like, if you go to ANY forum for ANY piece of electronics with a battery - like cell phones, mp3 players, portable game systems, laptops etc - there is always threads on battery life.

I think it's the same niche market as over clocking. Some people love over clocking, they must do it, they have to squeeze as many cpu cycles as they can out of any device.

Or jailbreaking/rooting.

Not everyone is interested.

I do find the battery life an issue simply because i am using the phone so much and it's a pain to have the thing cabled up when i am using it. I am always at risk of damaging the connector if i bump it or put pressure on it. So ideally it should charge without using it.

Personally i would tradeoff happily an extra 50 grams or more for MUCH more battery power; but i also do think ALOT more could be done as standard to improve efficiency within the device itself especially when the phone is idle.

Am getting perhaps 6 hours of hard use out of the thing (constant browsing or emails or gaming for example). I would love this to be doubled as a standard option.
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I really don't understand this obsession with getting the longest possible time out of your battery
I hope you don't think i'm speaking out of turn but:
When are you ever away from a power source for more than say 6 hours?
Why don't you just leave the phone plugged in at night?
Do you ACTUALLY use your phones or are you that obsessed with making the battery last that you daren't?
Tasker, I like the concept of the phone adapting to your routine, but once it is set up, if you deviate from that routine, you might as well not have bothered.
Let me explain, if your daily commute involves a car journey at 08:30 until 09:00 on weekdays, then yes it's cool that the bluetooth makes itself available without having to think about it. Now lets assume that you are delayed and at 09:00hrs you are still 10 mins away from your destination, you will have to manually turn bluetooth back on. I don't know many people who have such a metronomic lifestyle that they wouldn't need to constantly tweek their phone if using tasker.
I'd rather turn stuff off and on when I need them, it's not hard really is it. Go into a meeting, put phone on silent, long press on volume rocker, 5 seconds, done. Reckon it takes longer to programme tasker
Anyway, slightly off on a tangent there..... what's with the obsession about longest battery life
See my other post...surely there must be some app which would allow tailorable consumption states for various uses?

eg for each application allow to have a setup for optimal power consumption. And also for each dormant state have another setup; eg idle with screen on or off, each would allow you to set CPU rate, wifi onoff, call monitoring onoff, bluetooth onoff, celldata on off, etc etc. Perhaps it exist, but thats another gripe - how to really find apps on the appstor; search facility there is pretty hopeless :-) - otherwise all is GOOD with my note... loving it to bits - 1st android phone for me :-)
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I really don't understand this obsession with getting the longest possible time out of your battery
I hope you don't think i'm speaking out of turn but:
When are you ever away from a power source for more than say 6 hours?
Why don't you just leave the phone plugged in at night?
Do you ACTUALLY use your phones or are you that obsessed with making the battery last that you daren't?
Tasker, I like the concept of the phone adapting to your routine, but once it is set up, if you deviate from that routine, you might as well not have bothered.
Let me explain, if your daily commute involves a car journey at 08:30 until 09:00 on weekdays, then yes it's cool that the bluetooth makes itself available without having to think about it. Now lets assume that you are delayed and at 09:00hrs you are still 10 mins away from your destination, you will have to manually turn bluetooth back on. I don't know many people who have such a metronomic lifestyle that they wouldn't need to constantly tweek their phone if using tasker.
I'd rather turn stuff off and on when I need them, it's not hard really is it. Go into a meeting, put phone on silent, long press on volume rocker, 5 seconds, done. Reckon it takes longer to programme tasker
Anyway, slightly off on a tangent there..... what's with the obsession about longest battery life

Hello Brother
Its no obsession, just more convenience

Like me more people like to enjoy live wallpaper &
other Apps running in background, e mail, weather, stocks, etc
so can look at stuff at a glance than
im hoping the Quad cores will give us that pleasure
in the Note 2 with 3000mAh battery
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Its no obsession, just more convenience

Like me more people like to enjoy live wallpaper &
other Apps running in background, e mail, weather, stocks, etc
so can look at stuff at a glance than
im hoping the Quad cores will give us that pleasure
in the Note 2 with 3000mAh battery
I "enjoy" all that stuff, but I don't worry about how quick the battery is discharging, if it gets down to 15%, it beeps and I plug it in..... simples

Sometimes I may catch myself wondering why some days the battery seems to run out of charge quicker than other days but that's about it. An example would be my daily drive into work. If I don't plug it into the charger, some days it will use 10% of its charge just sitting in the cradle, not doing anything obvious, other days it will use 1%. THat's without making or recieving any calls or texts.
I assume that there is some background activity going on but who knows. I'm more interested in finding out what is draining my battery rather than trying to get the battery to last longer.
The inbuilt battery monitor is not very specific and I don't really trust it as it can have different readings for identical actions.

It's been like that for months and I don't loose sleep over it. If I happen across an app that will tell me specifically what is using the power, then great, if not, I'll live with it
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