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Old December 19th, 2011, 09:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Well it's an honor to be able to make my first post as THE first post in this forum!

I have been researching the Samsung Galaxy Players for some time. I'm very old school. I hate cell phone contracts, fees and data caps. And since I am on a PC all day, I don't need the constant connectivity of a smart phone. I like having my dumb Razr on GSM (AT&T) for $50 a month. Battery lasts forever and it is always ready and get's a good signal. No contract. Flip a SIM whenever I want or when I travel.

That being said, there are times when I want connectivity and can make use of free wifi. I hate Apple and the stranglehold that they put on their customer base. I liked the idea of the Galaxy tabs but they were too large to carry around conveniently. I thought of a used smart phone with broken cell radio, and then for a while toyed with the idea of the Archos 43 as a "pocketable" micro-tablet. Then I discovered the Samsung Galaxy Players and knew this was where I was headed.

These things are just amazingly awesome. I've had mine for over a week now and am very, very pleased with it. It just totally rocks! I'm on wifi at work and at home. So convenient to have this in my pocket or on the nightstand and check email, watch netflix, etc.

This is a very well-designed device. On board apps are well-integrated. All market apps that I have loaded are performing flawlessly. Wifi connectivity is great. YouTube and Netflix stream perfectly. The screen is just awesome. I know there have been unfavorable comparisons to the iPod Touch; I have not made the side-by-side comparison, but for me, the applePharm is not an option. I examined the 4.0 and the 5.0 player side by side and found that they both have great screens. I know the resolution is the same on both and that technically the 5.0 should not be looking as sharp. But it does. If you set the brightness on both devices to the same level, they both look fantastic. For me, the larger screen size just makes the unit SO much more usable and viewable.

Also, the battery on the 5.0 is twice the capacity (2500 mAh) of the 4.0 (1250 mAh) and is really lasting a long time!!! Very impressive. Even with wifi and GPS on. I've heard so many reviews of smartphones with significant complaints of poor battery performance. I'm really happy with how this is working out. Stereo speakers are great for watching netflix, etc, but not great if you really want to LISTEN to music. Sound quality through good earbuds is very good, although sense of spaciousness and detail is not as good as my old Sansa Fuze mp3 player. Plays all formats including FLAC and vorbis.

8 gB of internal memory not so great, but of course we ahve the ability to add capacity and flexibility with microSD card (on the 5.0, you do not have to remove the back cover to gain access).

It's a speedy little unit despite it's 1gHz Hummingbird single-core processor. I think dual-core is not really required. All apps are running very well without delays or glitches.

The only gripes that I might bring up are:
- The battery is not user-replaceable. Bummer!
- The speakers, while good for tiny stereo speakers, are located on the flat bottom of the unit so when it is laid down on desk or table, the sound is muffled.
- Needs a kickstand of some sort for netflix and video watching. Especially because of speaker placement noted above
- On-board sound recorder (many students tend to use this for recording lectures) only outputs an amr file. Should have the option of wav and mp3. Download Tape Machine on the android market. Well worth it.
- Woulds be getting close to perfect if this had HDMI cable output. Samsung TVs will stream data from this device and there's AllShare on board, for sharing files between DLNA-enabled devices. But that's not going to do most of us much good. Even the Archos 43 has HDMI output.
- for such a contemporary device, the 8 gB internal memory is a bit lackluster, especially since many apps cannot be run off the microSD card. And the 512 mB of RAM is also not stellar. but so far has not presented any issues.
- Not a lot of options for protective cases yet. Riot Outfitters (at Best Buy), and pDair (check amazon) are the best options out there.
- Camera is clunky and slow. Typical for all smartphones.

Pre-Loaded Apps:
GoogleMaps: Works well.
Skype: Have not enabled yet. Front and real cameras make Skype a good app for this unit.
Netflix on board pre-loaded. Works flawlessly. Same for YouTube
I'm in process of checking out MicroSoft ThinkFree Office suite. Create and read pseudo-Word, pseudoExcel and pseudo-PowerPoint with storage in the cloud.
AirShare: for DLNA-enabled devices. Not very helpful for me.
Task Manager: Works great.
Email and Gmail: Working great.
Stock browser: Runs well
Kindle: Works great.
Android Market: Works great
FM Radio: Great!
Music Player: I like it. Some don't. Seems fine.

+Android Market Apps and Widgets:
+Tape Machine: GREAT sound recorder and editor!
+Weatherbug Widget: Running well
+Dolphin Browser: comparing this to stock browser. I like it. May make this default. Like the bookmarks menu as a left-side-swipe menu.
+Real Calc scientific calculater: Great. Has RPN too!
+Wifi Analyser: Great too to see various wifi networks in your local zone and displays strength and placement on the channel spectrum, and displays open/unsecured hotspots. Very cool.
+Over Drive: for getting free Kindle books from libraries. Very good. A bit complicated to set up since you also need to have a library on-line account and you need to get an Adobe account to make OverDrive work. But ultimately you get Kindle books on your 5" screen for free. Awesome.
+Bar Code Reader: Works great.
+SoundHound: Works surprisingly well!
+Autodesk's Sketchbook Mobile: Awesome app for drawing and using photos. Photoshop "Lite".
+ Flashlight. Very cool. Works well on the 5.0 (4.0 does not have LED flash)
+ GoogleEarth: Fantastic!

Alright, well there's my little wrap-up. Look forward to hearing from other SMP owners! Happy Holidays!

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I purchased one for my son for Christmas. I cant wait to see it in action.
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These things are glorious. I love it. We need more people in these forums, for sure!
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Good to see a few folks here!
Keep posting back with issues, comments and suggestions.
I got Kindle running and I got OverDrive running for getting free "kindle" library books from my local library.
Really awesome device for not a great deal of money.

Now that I'm used to the 5" screen, and operate fine with one hand, a 3 1/2" iPhone/ipod touch looks absolutely tiny and almost unusable!
After Christmas I'm going to upgrade to the 32 GB microSD card.

You have probably noticed the lack of accessories for these. I ordered a pDair leather case that clips to belt from Amazon. However after I ordered it, I found out that it ships from HongKong and can take almost two months to arrive! I put in an email to Ottercase recommending that they manufacture cases for these and got a stock replay that they have not made any decision to manufacture these. Oh well.
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They'll start making them if they start getting big. I think this is one of the few MP3 players with Android running on it, so I can see it picking up big time.

My biggest concern with this player is that I don't know if I should root or not. Haha.

I will be ordering a new pair of headphones that do this thing justice. I read that the SGP5.0 has one of the best sound drivers and I feel their stock earbuds aren't worth anything so I'll be looking around for some nice IEM's or over-the-head headphones.

If you wanna do the same, there's a website dedicated to this stuff. It's head-fi.org.

Lemme know how yours is playing out.

Also, any suggested apps?
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They'll start making them if they start getting big. I think this is one of the few MP3 players with Android running on it, so I can see it picking up big time.

My biggest concern with this player is that I don't know if I should root or not. Haha.

I will be ordering a new pair of headphones that do this thing justice. I read that the SGP5.0 has one of the best sound drivers and I feel their stock earbuds aren't worth anything so I'll be looking around for some nice IEM's or over-the-head headphones.

If you wanna do the same, there's a website dedicated to this stuff. It's head-fi.org.

Lemme know how yours is playing out.

Also, any suggested apps?
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To me, there's a HUGE faux-pas in Samsung's marketing. They market this as simply an mp3 player. In fact, it's a tablet...a micro-tablet. Or a large-screen smartphone without the phone/contracts/data fees. I wanted this initially to replace an aging Sansa Fuze mp3 player. But this is so much more that I think it's unfair to put it in this category. It's a competitor of the ipodTouch- but WAY better IMO. It SHOULD be big- especially at this price.

Apps: I listed some above that I have found useful. Sketchbook Mobile is very cool. Tape Machine is a great mp3 and wav recorder and editor. There are a lot out there! Troll the various sites and hit up the market.
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I purchased the Galaxy Player 5 from Best Buy about 2 weeks ago. I absolutely love it. I researched tablets and mp3 players for about a year and came to the conclusion this player was a good idea. I am an "old school" person who doesn't want to follow the iPad/iPod/iPhone masses- I made the right decision. I agree with another post here that Samsung really has a tablet-light with this product and may be missing sales opportunities by not marketing it as such.
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Bought this for my daughter for christmas. Has anyone used google voice on it yet? Shes still a bit young for an actual cell phone but Im considering setting her up with a google voice number for texting and learning phone use with mom/dad/family.
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Bought this for my daughter for christmas. Has anyone used google voice on it yet? Shes still a bit young for an actual cell phone but Im considering setting her up with a google voice number for texting and learning phone use with mom/dad/family.
Interested in why you think if she's not old enough for a cell phone, that she's old enough for gps/wifi/email/full internet device? Not only is there much more complication in google voice as opposed to a simple cell phone but there's more risk for young kids with internet access etc.

BTW, I have not actually used google voice...it looks too complicated for me! I use a simple dumb cell phone.
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Interested in why you think if she's not old enough for a cell phone, that she's old enough for gps/wifi/email/full internet device? Not only is there much more complication in google voice as opposed to a simple cell phone but there's more risk for young kids with internet access etc.

BTW, I have not actually used google voice...it looks too complicated for me! I use a simple dumb cell phone.
Good points. I really just want her to demonstrate she can be responsible with such a device (keep charged, not lose, not be a distraction in school, etc) before I jump into a cell contract/purchase. With google voice, I can monitor call traffic/messages/contacts giving me a tad more control over cellular options. I believe I can even record the calls.

I plan on removing email and internet initially. Buying a reloadable visa card to put her allowance on. She can use that to purchase games/kids apps in the market. Not a whole lot I can control on market content (unless someone knows a way to limit access to kids stuff??) so Ill just have to pick the thing up and look it over every so often.

Opened the box today and started the google voice setup. Using Groove IP for a dialer/control. Works pretty well. Call quality is meh and theres a bit of a lag on dialer but certainly passable for this endeavor.
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I just snagged one on amazon.com. had an enticing offer of $100 off if i signed up with audible.com (which i was thinking of trying anyway). Can't wait to get it. I've missed android a little bit
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What sucks is that you have to wait till after Christmas cause of the shipping holiday procedure. It'll be well worth the wait though. We need more users in here.
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yea it's no rush. I have enough iGadgets and fish tanks to keep me occupied until then
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BTW, I have not actually used google voice...it looks too complicated for me! I use a simple dumb cell phone.
We bought one for our daughter for the same reason. She is 10 and has no need for a cell phone. We monitor everything our kids do on the Internet, so that is no issue. We do not feel that a 10 yo needs a cell phone that leaves the house all the time after all the stories of lost/stolen phones we have heard over the years (this is our youngest). This thing will stay at home unless she is with us. You just cannot expect a kid that age to comprehend the financial responsibility of a phone. They do not really understand that a lost phone can cost a lot to replace.
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Keeping the player at home doesn't really protect the thing from damages or things of that nature.

Honestly, this is the last step in responsibility, before a phone, imo. I'd get her a cheap Sansa Clip+ and see if she can keep track of it. (It's a tiny player. Could easily get lost). Slowly moving up through the years to a decent smartplayer, or a phone.

The only reason to really have an mp3 player of this kind of measure is if you don't have a smart phone and don't want to pay the contract for one, but are constantly within wifi range (College students) or you just have money to blow.
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Keeping the player at home doesn't really protect the thing from damages or things of that nature.

Honestly, this is the last step in responsibility, before a phone, imo. I'd get her a cheap Sansa Clip+ and see if she can keep track of it. (It's a tiny player. Could easily get lost). Slowly moving up through the years to a decent smartplayer, or a phone.

The only reason to really have an mp3 player of this kind of measure is if you don't have a smart phone and don't want to pay the contract for one, but are constantly within wifi range (College students) or you just have money to blow.
Could be wrong, but it sounds like you do not have children in school. The amount of damage potential from passing it around to others to see in class, on the bus, at sports practices, etc is MUCH larger than anything that can happen at home. I speak from experience with three children from 18 to 10. Their own experiences of MP3 players broken, a stolen ipod, rain damaged phones... (the list goes on!) proves to me that an electronic device kept at home will live a much longer life. Numerous friends with similar age children have had very similar experiences of damage and theft.

This is our 10 yo daughter's fourth MP3 player and all the other three still work. We learned from the other two kids to not let them go out of our sight. Sorry, but your take on this is just incorrect. My daughter is thrilled with her player BTW. She doesn't want a larger tab (her older sister got a Fire and she is not jealous at all) and she doesn't want a phone either. We asked her a couple weeks ago since we had the chance to add one to our plan for a $5 savings per month with unlimited everything. She did not want it and our other daughter changed her number so we could take advantage of the deal and we now save $25 per month!
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Could be wrong, but it sounds like you do not have children in school. The amount of damage potential from passing it around to others to see in class, on the bus, at sports practices, etc is MUCH larger than anything that can happen at home. I speak from experience with three children from 18 to 10. Their own experiences of MP3 players broken, a stolen ipod, rain damaged phones... (the list goes on!) proves to me that an electronic device kept at home will live a much longer life. Numerous friends with similar age children have had very similar experiences of damage and theft.

This is our 10 yo daughter's fourth MP3 player and all the other three still work. We learned from the other two kids to not let them go out of our sight. Sorry, but your take on this is just incorrect. My daughter is thrilled with her player BTW. She doesn't want a larger tab (her older sister got a Fire and she is not jealous at all) and she doesn't want a phone either. We asked her a couple weeks ago since we had the chance to add one to our plan for a $5 savings per month with unlimited everything. She did not want it and our other daughter changed her number so we could take advantage of the deal and we now save $25 per month!

I'm glad. You're correct. I'm a college student myself. Only thing I have to go on was my sister's inability to keep anything where it belongs. She lost a mp3 player she was supposed to keep at home, too. Huh. Didn't find it when we recently moved either.

I wasn't trying to tell you how to parent, and I apologize if it came off that way. I'm glad she enjoys her new toy. I love mine too.

Now we just need a custom ROM and we'll be good to go. Haha.
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Keeping the player at home doesn't really protect the thing from damages or things of that nature.

Honestly, this is the last step in responsibility, before a phone, imo. I'd get her a cheap Sansa Clip+ and see if she can keep track of it. (It's a tiny player. Could easily get lost). Slowly moving up through the years to a decent smartplayer, or a phone.

The only reason to really have an mp3 player of this kind of measure is if you don't have a smart phone and don't want to pay the contract for one, but are constantly within wifi range (College students) or you just have money to blow.
I would add this purchase was also in lieu of a Nintendo DS or other portable gaming system (which so many of her same age friends have). Ill take Android's $1.00 games over buying cartridges, etc.

And completely agree CatFan.. This baby does not travel to school.
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Opened the box today and started the google voice setup. Using Groove IP for a dialer/control. Works pretty well. Call quality is meh and theres a bit of a lag on dialer but certainly passable for this endeavor.
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Hmm I must try the voice thing. I have a second number that's been parked for a while. This thing is nice! I want to root it right away
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Why root? Just curious. Seems great the way it is.
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Why root? Just curious. Seems great the way it is.
instinct I guess, I felt like I had to lol I actually dont find any bloatware, or anything that annoys me to want to remove, so I gave up on it. The battery life is awesome. On all the android phones I've had in the past, I'd be below 50% halfway thru the day. I just got home and it was at 85%. This is after taking it off the charger lastnite and playing with it before bed. Of course I didnt really do anything with it all that (the phone would just sit there and the battery would drain). Tonite I will be loading my music library and tweaking the layout a bit.
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Agree. Battery life is proving awesome. Typical weekend day: Watch netfilx for 2 hours, wifi always on, play with maps/navigation with GPS on, occasionally check email, our of so of browsing, browse around in the market for a half hour, read ebook for hour or two...Never seem to run into battery issues with reasonable use.
Couldn't be more pleased.
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hey all,
i am not a techy and feel like a fish out of water with this thing. I don't understand the lingo and I am not sure what to look under for info - is it a mp3, a notebook, a tablet, a phone?? I got a 5.0 for xmas with the hopes of watching movies on it - especially on the go - only to find out the few Disney titles i have that have a digital copy, I can't download to my 5.0 cause of the DRM (dmr??). Can anyone give me some education on watching movies. The user manual suggests DivX and then having to go through another company to get movies. Read about Zune, briefly, they want me to download silverlight but i dont know about system requirements and the download didn't work anyway. I don't want to be a slave to wifi, truly want to watch a movie whenever. I have a netflix account but I need to be near wifi. i don't want to start spending money to find out the movie wont play back. (I truly just want to download the disney digital copies i have already purchased - i have 3). HELP!!!
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I had been wanting a new phone to replace my year old G2, and was thinking about the Galaxy S II. But after learning about the Galaxy Player, I realized I didn' really need a new "phone" necessarily, just a new device. I barely even use my phone as an actual phone anyway. I'm typing this message from my Galaxy Player right now I must say that this device is everything I wanted in a new smartphone while saving about $60 and an extra 2 years that I would have paid for a GS2. I resisted the notion of getting a tablet for a while because I figured it would be very redundant considering that fact that I already have a smartphone AND a NetBook. But this thing is so convenient because of its size. Clearly, it is a tablet. I don't understand why it is not marketed as so. Galaxy TAB 5.0 would suit it better. But the fact that its only 5 inches makes it the only POCKETABLE tablet on the market (to my knowledge). The fact that I also happen to own a T-Mobile wifi Hotspot means that I can literally go anywhere and never be without wifi access. Its the perfect combination!
I opted for the 5.0 because I felt the 4.0 was too close to the size of my G2 and with the same size battery (1300 mah). I wanted something bigger. The screen is perfect for watching videos and I honestly can't see myself even using my phone for media anymore. Its too small now! Lol
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I had been wanting a new phone to replace my year old G2, and was thinking about the Galaxy S II. But after learning about the Galaxy Player, I realized I didn' really need a new "phone" necessarily, just a new device. I barely even use my phone as an actual phone anyway. I'm typing this message from my Galaxy Player right now I must say that this device is everything I wanted in a new smartphone while saving about $60 and an extra 2 years that I would have paid for a GS2. I resisted the notion of getting a tablet for a while because I figured it would be very redundant considering that fact that I already have a smartphone AND a NetBook. But this thing is so convenient because of its size. Clearly, it is a tablet. I don't understand why it is not marketed as so. Galaxy TAB 5.0 would suit it better. But the fact that its only 5 inches makes it the only POCKETABLE tablet on the market (to my knowledge). The fact that I also happen to own a T-Mobile wifi Hotspot means that I can literally go anywhere and never be without wifi access. Its the perfect combination!
I opted for the 5.0 because I felt the 4.0 was too close to the size of my G2 and with the same size battery (1300 mah). I wanted something bigger. The screen is perfect for watching videos and I honestly can't see myself even using my phone for media anymore. Its too small now! Lol
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Welcome to the 5-0 Club. Ain't it awesome? Just feels like about the best kept tech secret of 2011! I am still frigging amazed at this device. Pocketable, great screen, full gingerbread and no data contract! I've go wifi just about everywhere I go. Plus that great 2500 mAh battery!
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i am not a techy and feel like a fish out of water with this thing. I don't understand the lingo and I am not sure what to look under for info - is it a mp3, a notebook, a tablet, a phone?? I got a 5.0 for xmas with the hopes of watching movies on it - especially on the go - only to find out the few Disney titles i have that have a digital copy, I can't download to my 5.0 cause of the DRM (dmr??). Can anyone give me some education on watching movies. The user manual suggests DivX and then having to go through another company to get movies. Read about Zune, briefly, they want me to download silverlight but i dont know about system requirements and the download didn't work anyway. I don't want to be a slave to wifi, truly want to watch a movie whenever. I have a netflix account but I need to be near wifi. i don't want to start spending money to find out the movie wont play back. (I truly just want to download the disney digital copies i have already purchased - i have 3). HELP!!!
Cannot help on the Disney movies thing, sorry.
What most of us have done over the last decade is amass a personal collection of movies in avi format. Avi is a "container" file format that "holds" video files. Usually this is Xvid (generic) or DivX (proprietary) format. DivX supposedly does more updating and has extra features you can add/pay for, such as some sort of Sound Booster module. Whatever. Regular Xvid is fine. On a PC, you'll need a program called VLC Media Player to play these. Windows Media Player doesn't like them. (of course...because MS doesn't make money on it). But VLC is a GREAT freeware that plays anything you throw at it, video or audio. Google it. DL for free.

Anyway, back to how to actually get avi movies.
Google "Rip DVD to avi format" or "Rip DVD to Xvid"
There is free ware and paid software (for not much money) that will decode a DVD and produce a single AVI file (again, either Xvid or Divx, your choice), for "personal backup copy" purposes. I remember one called "Fair Use Wizard", freeware, with a great deal of technical options for getting things exactly the way you want.

Typically these programs will take about 2-4 hours to complete their task. They make huge temporary files (which can be deleted later) so you need some extra gigs on your hard drive. And they typically produce a single 700 MB (.7 gig) file, with integrated audio. You open that file and watch it. There are no previews, bonus features, or options. it's one file. You play it. That's it. It works. You can fast forward, pause, rewind, but those are pretty much the options. That being said, it works fine. If the "ripper" knows what they are doing (and it's not too hard to figure out) the quality can be VERY good. If not, well, the quality can be less-than-stellar. (pixellating and other artifacts, dark colors and fast-motion areas getting weird, etc).

OK, so you can get freeware, and a DVD, and get some xvid or divx files on your PC. Then copy those to your android device. If you have a 16 or 32 gig microSD card. You can throw 5 or 10 movies on there no problem.

Also, I have heard that there are "bit torrent" sites where audio and videos may be downloaded for free. Xvid and Divx movies included. Vuze is a free client that manages bit torrent content. Google "bit torrent" and "vuze" for more info. I have heard that some people have obtained a lot of content from bit torrent sites but it's a gray area. Technically no one person is loading entire copies of files from any other one entity...however, there is still copyrighted material being transmitted in complex ways, for free, and so there's the rub. Probably some content being shared via bit torrent is good and some is not-so-good technically.

Hope that helps. Netflix works super-well via wifi on the SGP and there's lots of streaming content once you're signed up. Enjoy your player!
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Hey blackdog, it looks like you and everyone else here is extremely satisfied with the SGP, and I'll add myself to the group, as I've had my SGP 5" for about 2 months, and I couldn't be happier with it.

I originally got it in lieu of a smartphone/iPhone, because the contract on my "dumb" phone is coming up this month, so I figured I'd make the jump. But then I realized that I didn't want to be paying for those monthly data fees, especially when I came across this SGP, which really should be considered a mini-tablet, like others here have said.

Sorry for the long intro, but I have been using Google Voice and GrooveIP (which was $4.99 in the market) for a little while now, but not as my primary phone, I'm still using my old "dumb" phone for most calls.

It's pretty easy to set up, and as you probably know, the Google Voice app is already installed on the SGP, so that saves you one step. Next, I'd go to google.com/voice and sign up for your own unique Google Voice number. Now, I haven't explored some of the other options it offers, such as "porting" your number, which basically moves your existing number from your carrier (e.g. AT&T) to Google Voice. You could just do Google Voice Lite, which I believe lets you keep your existing number, but limits some of the features that you might otherwise get with "porting" it. (Just google "Google Voice account types" and it will get you to a helpful starting chart comparing the choices.)

I went with just getting a new number from Google Voice. So I still have my regular cell phone number with AT&T, and then I have my own GV number separate from that. I did this because if in the future I decide to ditch my normal cell phone (which I would do if I end up moving out of the country for a while as I intend to), I could just use my SGP and GV with GrooveIP as the dialer, as well as be able to send SMS texts from my GV account for free (from within wi-fi access of course). The main function of GrooveIP is that it allows your SGP to function as a phone, and with the included headphones with inline mic, the quality's not too bad. I must say that I really don't use GV much for outgoing calls, only if I'm at home, as well as for texts.

A bit of rambling there, but I hope that helps. In my opinion, spending $5 once on an app has been well worth it and will continue to be so, considering the $ I'll be saving by not having a monthly data plan. I understand it's not for everyone though, especially those who aren't always around a wi-fi signal.
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Thanks for that info! Will check it out.
Keep in mind that you, being on AT&T, can swap out your SIM card when traveling using your dumb phone. I did this all across Europe and Russia. There are many services stateside that sell the pre-paid SIM cards and give you a new number. When you dial out, you dial some number in Estonia, and then Estonia calls you back and you get a new dial tone to place your call. It's a bit awkward at first but really works pretty well. Others from back in US or in Europe can dial in to your number without problems or weirdness with Estonia. You recharge minutes via a credit card. Costs vary depending on countries. Some countries you get free incoming, some you do not. Make sure your phone is at least tri-band (I had an old nokia flip 6103) and now have a vintage Motorola Razr quad-band.

Don't forget to copy all your contacts that may be on your SIM card to the phone before changing SIMs.
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I got my galaxy player 5 inch tablet/media player 8GB from Amazon UK 4 days ago for 135.

I got it to replace my sony 7inch portable DVD player that has a 5 hour battery playing DVD's and 6 hours with a USB key, but it weighed over a kilo (which replaced an Archos A5IT). I diddn't want a phone, as too expensive (for the screen size) and it would not have good battery life.


Initial impressions
build quality is very good, solid and weighty. it looks like a big galaxy S2 phone or galaxy note. I've got a galaxy apollo gti5800 phone, and it's screen is 3.2 inches, that is the WIDTH of the galaxy players! The screen is huge, but it fits into a shirt pocket with no trouble at all.
Screen viewing angles are very good, resolution is 800x480. It's bright and clear, plus you can brighten the screen on video playback (something my phone couldn't do, well it was only 65), and is clear in bright sunlight (but highly reflective). it's capacitive and very resonsive to use, and feels sturdy.


The battery is 2500mah, which is impressive. And my first test results are:

It's lasted 9 1/2 hours of standard def video before the battery warning came on! (that will get me to the USA, india or africa), playing 2 films in 22:9 ratio and the rest filling the screen in 16:9 (screen set to 50% brightness and volume to 50% as well)

I've just played a 720p HD video, and it still lasted 7 hours before the battery warning came on. Strangely it played the file with no problem, but my friends gen 8 101 needed the cinema pluggin to play it. considering the website quotes only 5 hours for video playback, I'm stunned.

The best thing is, it plays all my avi files without problems (I needed the cinema pluggin with the Archos A5IT), downloads and DVD rips, that was my biggest concern. MP4's don't work in my DVD players, so I don't use that format.

The stereo speakers are loud and pretty clear, but quiet recordings could be a problem due to the EU volume limiter. The headphones have good sound quality, but the jack is in the bottom of the device, so would need to go in a pocket upside down! They are not that comfortable to wear, but it does have a mute/pause button on the chord, which is handy. The power button on the unit also acts as a lock, thats stops all controls working, except volume, which I love.

wifi signal is strong, much better than my phones when upstairs, away from my router. The processing power is also way better than the 600hz processor and 256mb RAM in my phone.

It uses micro Sd cards up to 32GB, and goes in the top of the device under a flap, with easy access.
still got lots to play with, I want to make a kick stand to make it free standing, and got to get some sort of case for it.


BBC i player, ITV player and ch5 player all work, i only get occasional buffering due to my internet speed being really slow (max download speed is 1/3mb at 6 to 8am!) as I dont live near an exchange or have fibre optics. Live TV is beyond my internet capability unfortunately,

downloaded a few games (not a gamer, have a ps2 and 4 games, yes, a ps2!), and the graphics are really smooth, the touch screen is responsive as is rotating the player.

One thing I have noticed is when viewing web pages, the text can look a little pixelated, only a little, but you can see it up close. Not a big problem, but it could annoy some people.
Going to look into if I can stream video to a Tv or from hard drive to this device, DNLA? haven't a clue how to do it

Overall, very glad I took the plunge, don't regret it one bit. This is a very underrated device, and samsung should try promoting it properly.

however, the playing continues!

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I totally agree with you 100%. Glad you are enjoying it.
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Hello all,
I just signed up today and have been reading tons of posts. Then decided to do a search for the SGP5 and found this thread. So, here's my input...

I have had an original Droid for 2.5 years and it was my right arm. All the cool apps I wanted and needed were on it and I was a happy camper. Then I lost my job! We had to do some serious cutbacks to expenses. And guess what got dropped first......the Verizon data plan. I was eligible for an upgrade, but it turned out to be a downgrade to a plain old clam-shell phone with no extras at all.

I was so bummed out!! And I was all set to grab one of the new high -end smart phones!! Obviously, that didn't happen. I felt naked without my Droid!!

Well, long story short...the wife decided I could get a "PDA" to take the place of the Droid...as long as there was no monthly bill involved. Cool! After looking for a couple weeks, I found out about the SGP5. It was love at first sight!! It became my Christmas present....the only one! LOL!

So I've been using, exploring, tweaking, testing, downloading and playing with it for about a month now and am still blown sideways at it's capabilities. WOW! What a great piece of hardware.

I can't find anything I DON'T love. Now, I'm a simple man with simple needs, but this thing is turning me into a big geek!! I'm getting into Skype, GoogleTalk, GrooveIP, texting, and on and on. Never knew what I was missing! Ha, Ha! It's a whole new world for me.

And then I find this forum of nice people...and you all are so helpful and polite to each other. I am just thrilled to bits.

I don't know how, but I'll try to contribute whenever I can. This is one COOL place...for sure!!

BTW...I found out after I got the SGP5 that I could have still used the Droid the same way I'm using the SGP5...but don't tell my wife!! Please!
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I've been using a free app called iMediaShare, which lets me stream videos from the SGP to my AppleTV(2nd gen). It's a pretty straightforward process and works really well for me considering almost all of my videos are in iTunes format, but that's where it might fall short for you unfortunately. This app wasn't able to stream any of my avi files, only the mp4/m4v/mkv files, so if most of yours are in avi format, this app probably wouldn't be a good fit for you since you'd have to spend way too much time converting them in Handbrake or something like that.

But I figured I'd pass it along anyways, and if you happen to a Roku, Xbox 360, or another DNLA device "connected" to your TV rather than the AppleTV like I do, who knows? Those probably allow a wider variety of formats to be streamed through them compared to Apple's tightly-run ship.

Good luck finding an app that works if this one doesn't; I know it made me love this SGP even more once I was able to stream to my TV.
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Plus, you chaps just got Netflix streaming, yeah?
I've found Netflix to be pretty seamless on the SGP.
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Welcome to the cool crew.
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Hello all, I got my SGP a couple weeks ago and love this thing. I travel a lot (live in Sao Paulo) and come to the US all the time... Usually travel to the Tampa area from Miami on the Greyhound... now Greyhound has free wifi.. and I have used SKYPE to chat with my wife in Sao Paulo... amazing.... love it... free wifi and free calls to my wife, plus all the apps available make this a wonderful investment... I frequent a couple of Cigar bars here in the area and yo should see the looks I get when I pull out my SGP...most comments are "Is that the new iPhone?" my response is F**K NO! it's a Samsung Galaxy Player... and take a look... after about 10 seconds... they ask how much? and I am happy to tell them ...hahahah you should see the look on their faces... hahaha is a great way to twist the knife in a fanboy/girl.... I think I should be a sales rep for these things.... take care, Ted
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Hello fellow SGP users! Nice to see there's a forum thread specifically for this product. I bought my SPG 4.0 several days after Xmas at Bestbuy. I wanted the 5.0 but BestBuy dropped the 4.0 price down to $179 (for one week only). I couldn't resist. My previous pocket tablet was an Archos 43IT. If ANYONE is thinking about buying one of these DO NOT BUY!! It is an utter piece of crap. The only thing half decently useful is the HDMI out port. But, videos do not look that great on a HD TV. But the movies are still viewable enough to enjoy watching. The resistive screen on the A43IT is junk. I wish Samsung came out with these "tablets" last year because it would have saved me $235. Oh well. I stumbled upon the SGP by accident. Being so disgusted with my A43IT I would search the internet every now and then to see if anyone else produced a pocket tablet. Right after Thanksgiving I saw the SGP 5.0 and I ran out to BestBuy to give one a try. It took all of 30 seconds before I was hooked. I thought my A43IT screen was crisp and had vibrant colors. But after I held it up next to the SGP I saw the A43IT screen looked washed and faded out compared to the colors of the SGP. I left BestBuy with the mission of picking up a SGP after the price would dropped a bit. As stated, I wanted the 5.0. When I saw the 4.0 for $60 less than the 5.0 I gave in. Let me tell you. I have not one regret with the 4.0. I love this device. It's everything the A43IT is not. If it had a kickstand and a HDMI out port it would be the absolute perfect pocket tablet. Every single app runs flawlessly. The OS seems bugfree. The A43IT was (and still is) riddled with bugs. The A43IT lacked GPS and that was a feature I really wanted. I did hear the Korean SGP was the only model that has a HDMI port. It's a shame the USA models did not come with this feature. I saw there is a micro USB to HDMI adapter but I have heard it doesn't work with the SGP's. I also saw there is a 2400mAh battery that may fit the 4.0. I have not heard any reports if it works or not and I most certainly don't want to fry my device being the Italian swine. The OEM earplugs sound better than Archos earbuds but they still don't do any justice for sound quality. So I use my over the ear Voz headphones ($15) and PowerAmp and I am VERY happy with the sound quality. Overall, I'm one very happy Android user!! THANKS SAMSUNG!!

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And another happy camper!! Welcome, GeoD. I just joined also, and this place is really amazing. Lots of very knowledgeable people, experts and devs hang out here and share their expertise freely.

I got the 5.0 and agree...it's addictive!! Ha, ha! I love finding new things to use it for. Eminently useful and lots of fun to boot.
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Plus, you chaps just got Netflix streaming, yeah?
I've found Netflix to be pretty seamless on the SGP.
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Welcome to the cool crew.

thanks blackdog. I'd have to disagree a little, though. Cool club yes, but also the most unheard of, greatest pocket tablet on the planet club! Although I kind of like that no one else has one!

I've just sold two at my shop. My staff member won the 9.7inch sony tablet at christmas, but he can't play avi files on it, plus it only has internal memory. Showed him mine and now he's selling the sony to BUY a samsung 5.0...

Today I demonstrated some photo techniques to a customer at work (just got my 32GB card for it and have 2GB of pics on it), he thought it cost 400. When I told him it cost 135, his eyes lit up and wanted the details of it.

Just found what looks like a good case for it on e bay, gonna get a friend to order me 3 in different colours.

TPU GEL Silicone Case Cover Samsung Galaxy S WiFi 5.0 | eBay


I also ove the fact it has a lug for a strap or lanyard, I can put it in my top pocket at work and not drop it.

I just hope it gets android 2.3 as I would love the ability now to tether it to my phones 3G network.


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Hi Everyone,

I am a recent 5.0 player buyer as well, for much the same reasons as everyone else here....Anyway I am not sure my 5.0 is functioning correctly, and as I only have a few more days to return/exchange, I wanted to get some advice from someone else other than a salesman who wont want to process a return.

This is really my first go with this type of an electric device, and my concerns revolve around battery life...everyone talks about how great it is, but I am not experiencing that. I have noticed the following in regards to battery life;

1. On 4 separate occasions, I have gone to bead with out plugging my 5.0 in, by morning it is completely dead.

2. Once the battery is fully charged, there is an Icon in the upper left corner that shows a battery and "100%" over the top of it,despite trying to clear this through the alerts menu, it never goes away, and they 5.0 will power down when the battery goes dead with out a warning. No matter what I cannot figure out how to clear this icon.

3. While listening to Pandora when I study I seem to only get about 30 minutes of WiFi time before the unit powers down.

4. Gaming and internet browsing only seems to last for about an hour as well.

Could this be a hardware issue? A battery issue?

Lastly, if I do exchange for a new player, how do I transfer the apps and calendars I have on this 5.0 to a new one.

Thanks for any help guys, I appreciate it.

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Hi BigRed61. You would get more attention for your issue is you start a new thread...instead of adding to this one. This one's not really an "i've got a problem" kind of thread. The people who could best help you might not see your plea for help.

I'm no expert at all, but it sounds like you have some apps running constantly. If you're not using GPS, turn it off, too. Actually, turn off anything you're not using.

If that doesn't work, I'd return it for an exchange. The battery, or the unit could be defective.

Oh....and I don't know about moving the apps and other stuff. You need an expert for that.
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Just a note to all.
Our lovely SGT is not available here in Sao Paulo.. at least for another 2-3 months... now the looks I get are really amazing... and the questions (in Portuguese) are about the same as I received in the USA.... and the fanboys/are pissed here... but to no avail... hahahahah especially since the price here is estimated to be around R$1000,00 (includes the conversion to Real (R$) brasilain currency and the 80% import tax).... I still think I should become a SGT sales person... everyone here wants me to go to USA and bring SGT back with me...hahahah life is good....
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I hear ya, Drted. My son's one of those fanboys. He and I have this little competition thing when it comes to high tech stuff. Always trying to out-do each other. With his income, he can usually stay well ahead of me. But this time I knocked his block off! Ha, ha, ha. He wants an SGP so bad he can't stand it...but has to wait a while to save up for it.

I showed it off to a lady that I do tech work for, and she said she would see about getting one the very next day. She was still using an old palm pilot!

As PCDeb said, these SGPs are a best kept secret. And the ixxx fanboys turn green with envy when they see what these things can do!! LOL!
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hwllo Sideman, I love to twist the fanboy knife. I have friend (fanboy) here in SP that has always sworn by his iPhone... and yesterday he looked at my SGP... said it was nice.. asked the US price and turned very red... hahahahah... then "wanted to know when I was returning to the USA?"... hinting that he is interested in a new SGP purchase.. hahahahahahah.....I said maybe yes maybe no.. I might just allow him to spend his money... but told him to buy here in Brasil... hahahah.. he was really mad then.. hahahah.... toooo bad, I thought... ah well such is life,
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First thing I'd try is to use Task Manager, kill all apps, and fully-charge overnight. Make sure you reach 95-100%.
If you still have problems, I'd try a reset to factory defaults.

You'll ahve to reload everything of course. I know there are apps like Titanium Backup for backing up data on your device. I don't think that you're going to get apps backed up and reloaded thought. Someone else with real knowledge of this should participate in the discussion; I am far from an expert.

You should not let the battery go to dead. These lithium ion batteries do not suffer from "topping up" like the old niCads. Keep it charged at work, home, car...whatever. Top it up every night.

My battery life has been fantastic. Wake the unit up at about 7:00 AM. Various fairly light email and general use most of the day. Calculator, checking Android Market, bit of browsing, check BBC, more email at lunch, play music for a couple of hours...and so forth all day. Maybe one day out of 5 engage Google Maps with navigation for a half-hour or so. At home, check email, watch netfilx for 2 hours, check email, listen to music for an hour...at 11:00 I would typically be between 20-35% after all that.

Sounds like time is running out on your return period so maybe just return the darned thing. Of course then you will really have to start from scratch. And most retailers won't just take it back; Best Buy wont. Their extended warranty was WAY too expensive. You have to ship back to the manufacturer and , of course, WAIT.

good luck.
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Im thinking of getting a SGP for my son. I have a SGS2. What version of android does this have. I know it comes with 2.2 but I have been reading that it should get 2.3 can anyone confirm one way or another? Im sure that when I was playing with one in PC World and I looked in the settings it said 2.3. Thanks for any advice.
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Im thinking of getting a SGP for my son. I have a SGS2. What version of android does this have. I know it comes with 2.2 but I have been reading that it should get 2.3 can anyone confirm one way or another? Im sure that when I was playing with one in PC World and I looked in the settings it said 2.3. Thanks for any advice.
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UK models come with 2.2 there is no update to 2.3 yet, checked samsung's international site, and no update either. US buyers seem to get 2.3, not sure how.

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UK models come with 2.2 there is no update to 2.3 yet, checked samsung's international site, and no update either. US buyers seem to get 2.3, not sure how.

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