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Old May 7th, 2012, 02:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default SGP 5.0 Eternity to charge battery

Most comments related to this player are relatively good; including the battery. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this but mine takes forever to charge.

If I put it on the charger at let's say 60%, in 2 hrs it's only charged to 65% and that's using the charger that came with it.

At night when I go to bed and place it on the charger, when I wake you'd think it'd be at 100%, I'm lucky if it reached 80.

On the rare occasion it reached 100% it immediately drops to 95% the second I unplug it. Not even 5 min later it'll be at 90%. I haven't read this happening to anyone else in all the forums I read so I stumped by this.

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Mine takes a while to charge but nothing like that. Mine will charge to full from completely dead in 6-8 hours. I do notice however that If you charge it while out is turned off and it says that it has reached 100 percent charge while still turned off, when you turn it on it will only be at 95 percent immediately.
I thing this is because it senses that the battery is "Fuller" when there us no drain on it (ie turned off)
But either way what you ate describing does not sound normal at all
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Doesn't seem normal to me either. I have read it takes a while to charge but nothing like what I'm experiencing. I don't recall having ever charging it while off. I'll give that a go tonight and see if there's any difference.
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Ya try that and see, but i would return it if it is barely getting to 80% overnight. ( i am assuming overnight means a good 7-8 hours at least)
I think i remember reading on here that some of the sgp 5.0's had this problem with the battery.
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This may be a long shot, but I've noticed that when I have WiFi and/or GPS on, my battery charges very slow. I never have the GPS on unless I'm traveling. When I use WiFi it seems to use a lot of juice. Do you have these on when you are charging? If so, you might try turning these off while charging. Mine charges much faster this way.


I use the bluetooth quite a bit when listening to a podcast or music. Bluetooth seems to use little juice. If I'm listening to podcasts with WiFi and GPS off, and bluetooth on, the battery lasts forever. But when using the WiFi the battery drains at a faster rate on my SGP5. I can still get several hours when using WiFi, but it is noticeably more of a power hog to me.


The SGP5 has a pretty good battery. If you can't get good results after a few charges, you might look into a battery problem.
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I keep wifi on 24/7 so it's usually still on while charging. It never occurred to me to turn it off.

When listening to music or podcast I normally do so with a wired headset which is ironic on my part since I recently purchased 2 LG HBS-700's (one white/one black) so I always keep a set charged.

About an hour ago I placed this on the charger at 60 % but this time completely turned off. 2 hrs later I'm still at 60 %.
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I noticed to that wifi on makes charging take a little longer but nothing like what you are describing. That seems abnormal no matter what. I would consider maybe exchanging it or calling samsung or something.
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with mine, when the battery warning comes on at 15%, I turn it off and plug it into the mains. Full charge when off takes 3 hours and 10 minutes (I'm in th UK).
When on or using it, it does take longer to charge. I don't charge via USB, as it IS very slow.

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how else can you charge besides usb?
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with mine, when the battery warning comes on at 15%, I turn it off and plug it into the mains. Full charge when off takes 3 hours and 10 minutes (I'm in th UK).
When on or using it, it does take longer to charge. I don't charge via USB, as it IS very slow.

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So far I haven't let mine get that low due to how long it usually takes to charge.
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how else can you charge besides usb?
I think he means plugging it into a computer usb port. That IS a slow way to charge. The AC-to-usb charger that came with the SGP is much faster.
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Oh thanks! I see, so it charges off the computer when connected also.
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Yep. Any powered usb connection will charge it.
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I think he means plugging it into a computer usb port. That IS a slow way to charge. The AC-to-usb charger that came with the SGP is much faster.
This post was a light bulb moment for me and may be the reason I'm having charging problems. I've been using a Samsung charger. Don't know why but I completely forgot the one that came with the player is AC/USB (not what I've been using).

Another issue I forgot to mention was my player, when turned off and put on charger, would flash a screen showing battery indicator repeatedly. I haven't noticed this using the correct charger.

I'm at 95% charge right now. Going see how long it takes to get to 100% now that I realize I've been using the wrong charger. Usually 95-100% would take a couple of hours.
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I think you solved the problem. Although any usb, 5volt, charger will charge an SGP, the amount of current it supplies will determine how fast it charges. Many of them used for phones have only 0.3 Amp (300 milliamp) ratings.

The SGP5 charger is 5v, at 0.7 Amps (700 milliamps). A slightly higher amp rating (within reason) is OK...like a 1 Amp (1000 milliamps) would be OK too.

The lower the current rating, the slower the charging rate.
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I'm at 95% charge right now. Going see how long it takes to get to 100% now that I realize I've been using the wrong charger. Usually 95-100% would take a couple of hours.
In order to extend the life of the battery, Android normally stops charging at 100% and discharges to somehwere between 95% and 98% and will then recharge to 100% again. This may be what your seeing why it appears that it takes forever to get that last 5%.
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I think he means plugging it into a computer usb port. That IS a slow way to charge. The AC-to-usb charger that came with the SGP is much faster.
Sideman is correct, sorry if my post diddn't make sense.

Mine came with a USB cable and a mains charger. I used it originaly with the USB cable to charge it, and it took forever, stalling at 95% for ages.
I then used the mains power unit, and it hit 100% in 1 minute!

Since then I only charge it with the mains power unit. I believe pc's use lower amps to protect themselves (slow charge times), mains units do indeed have higher outputs so charge devices faster. However, I don't want to get a 1 m/amps version in case it damages the battery due to very rapid charging. I know fast charging can shorten the lifespan of some batteries.

And yes, power up the device and it shows 95% straight away, then drops quickly to 90%, but it then drops charge percentage much slower after that. So, normal behaviour.

Not all computers will charge a device via USb if they are turned off (mine does though!?)

WiFi is a power hog, but bluetooth isn't. I turn everything off till I need it to conserve power, same as my phone.

Also with some devices, (my phone yes, but player no) charge it to full power, then unplug it for 5 minutes. Then plug it in again, and it will continue to charge. My phone charges for 25 minutes extra, and it stays charged for much longer as a result!. I've got it to last 6 days with light use.

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I've just decided to test my battery to see how it compared to when I got my 5.0 in February.

My original test played a 2x 22:9 ratio movies then a selection of 16:9 videos for 9 hours 15 mins, then the charge warning came on at 15%.

I've played a 16:9 video on a loup for 8 hours and 55 mins, which I think is pretty good as it is using most of the screen compared to a 22:9 movie.

5 months on, I'm still soo impressed with this device!

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I always run my battery down to 15% when I get the chance, to protect it from damage by topping it up. Also I only charge it with the mains unit, with the device turned off.
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i have noticed a diminished battery life over the last 7 months. i got my 5.0 in january. it seems now the battery is not lasting as long. it is still good battery life but not great like it was when new.
i am worried that this trend is going to continue. if it continues like this the thing will be useless in a year or so. i plan to have mine a little longer than that.
knowing it has a non replaceable battery has me a little leary.

has anyone figured out if it can be sent back or if there is a shop that you can bring it to or something to replace the battery?
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Hi Brosko,
any idea how different your battery consumption is? and ask yourself:

have you installed a lot of apps? I haven't
do you use a task killer to regularly kill them? I do
check how much RAM is available. 230MB on turn on. if not much, apps are running and using power
do you regularly top your battery up without running it down completely? I don't

Batteries are not supposed to have a memory (like the old ni-cd batteries), BUT rechargeable batteries DO need a workout to get full power.
Imagine you are stuck in bed for a month, your muscles would waste away and they would need to be excercised to make them strong again. Batteries are the same, I always charge new ones to full power and then drain / charge them fully 4 to 5 times in a row before I start topping them up. My video camera is 10 years old, and the lithium ion batteries I got with it still work!

samsung products in the UK have a 2 year warranty, not sure about elsewhere.

I hope some of this helps.


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Have instalked apps
Always kill apps
Got about 230 ram also on start up
Always charge it when gets down to 15-40%
Never occured to me that it might be the addition of apps that kill batt

But.. I have battery monitor app the says batt is aging 23%
I am assuming thatmeans diminished ability to hold charge?
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Also, do you know who we turn to when/if batt dies let say within next year or so and want replacement?
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Brosko,
I would charge it to full power with the mains unit when turned off, then turn it on, kill all apps and run a video until it says to charge it.
I used standard def video, Mine lasted 8 hours 55 mins. 720p HD should last about 7 hours 15mins. if it's close, there is nothing wrong. If it's miles out (over an hour or two less), then yes there is.

In the UK under the sale of goods act, the shop that sold it is responsible for getting it sorted or replaced for you. But you can go straight to samsung and get them to sort it out as well.

Test it and see how it does.

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i am not complaining about the batt. just noting a little less capacity. but i think it is from all the apps that i have installe since new and also i started leaving the wifi on all the time so that when i am near a hotspot it picks it up automatically and gets my email. this i am sure explains the slight decrease in battery life. i know i might have made it sound like there was a big problem, but i am happy with it, i still get between 2 and 3 days on a charge whereas before i was getting between 3 and 4. but my extra apps and the wifi explain that. thanks
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Having lots of apps installed will not affect your battery.
Having multiple apps loaded into the RAM will not affect your battery unless they are actually doing something (like playing music while downloading from the internet and playing a game all at the same time)
If an app isn't doing anything then it will not use power but if it remains in the RAM then it will start more quickly when it is needed.
Killing apps will therefore not help your batter, in fact it could have an adverse affect because the apps will use more power to start up next time.
Keeping wifi on constantly will drain the battery much quicker, especially if you use it, but even when the player 'sleeps' it will still be active (as you say, finding hotspots and syncing emails.
Using the brightest screen setting will drain the battery
Using live wallpapers will help drain the battery.
Using active and animated widgets will help drain the battery
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The Galaxy Player 5 has a larger battery than the average smartphone does (2500 mah), only outdone by the Razr Maxx i believe. So it is only logical that a larger capacity battery should take a little bit longer to charge.
Now my own 5.0 immediately drops down from 100% to 80% as soon as i unplug it from the charger. i kid you not. It doesn't really worry me too much though, because it hangs on 80% for a pretty long time, as if waiting for the actual battery to catch up with the indicator widget i have. i still routinely get around 12-ish hours of use before seeing the 15% warning.
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The Galaxy Player 5 has a larger battery than the average smartphone does (2500 mah), only outdone by the Razr Maxx i believe. So it is only logical that a larger capacity battery should take a little bit longer to charge.
Now my own 5.0 immediately drops down from 100% to 80% as soon as i unplug it from the charger. i kid you not. It doesn't really worry me too much though, because it hangs on 80% for a pretty long time, as if waiting for the actual battery to catch up with the indicator widget i have. i still routinely get around 12-ish hours of use before seeing the 15% warning.
Mine pretty much does the same once I take it off the charger. Percentage is 100-90-80 in under a min.

Wifi is normally kept on 24/7 cause I'm always on it. The rare time I did have wifi off I thought something was wrong when I couldn't view a webpage.

Thinking about it, BT is on all day/night. I'm realizing as I post this that I really can leave BT off and just turn it on when needed.

I'll try to remember to charge with the player off. Normally I just plug it in and go about my business.
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Mine pretty much does the same once I take it off the charger. Percentage is 100-90-80 in under a min.

Wifi is normally kept on 24/7 cause I'm always on it. The rare time I did have wifi off I thought something was wrong when I couldn't view a webpage.

Thinking about it, BT is on all day/night. I'm realizing as I post this that I really can leave BT off and just turn it on when needed.

I'll try to remember to charge with the player off. Normally I just plug it in and go about my business.
bluetooth is irrelevant. i can literally stream music through my bluetooth Jambox all day long. its wifi that hits the battery the hardest.
which is kinda odd, considering how wifi usually conserves my phone battery in comparison with using the data network (t-mobile hspa+).
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bluetooth is irrelevant. i can literally stream music through my bluetooth Jambox all day long. its wifi that hits the battery the hardest.
which is kinda odd, considering how wifi usually conserves my phone battery in comparison with using the data network (t-mobile hspa+).
I got a new player the other day. Decided to keep it stock for a while. The 1st one I rooted & rom as soon as I got home with it. This one I've only had to charge it twice. Seems as though the battery is not taking too long to charge and it's also lasting longer on a charge.

Wifi/BT on the entire time. Been watching Netflix around the clock and it's been almost 11 hrs since off the charger. On this particulaar player, my battery hasnt taken a hit due to wifi.
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The good news is 2500mah is a huge battery!
Bad news is it will not charge as fast as a dinky batt.
If your battery is old or been dropped once too many times then there might be a prob.
However I have been reading, there are apps that will recalibrate the battery charger.
You are not the 1st to complain about the stock SGP battery charger.
Mine is used and the last 10% seem to take longer. It says 100% if it is on all night, but falls off to 90-something right away. Display uses well over 90% of the "juice" that's ever used so I set the display time-out so that it almost makes me mad, (30 sec) haha.
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The good news is 2500mah is a huge battery!
Bad news is it will not charge as fast as a dinky batt.
If your battery is old or been dropped once too many times then there might be a prob.
However I have been reading, there are apps that will recalibrate the battery charger.
You are not the 1st to complain about the stock SGP battery charger.
Mine is used and the last 10% seem to take longer. It says 100% if it is on all night, but falls off to 90-something right away. Display uses well over 90% of the "juice" that's ever used so I set the display time-out so that it almost makes me mad, (30 sec) haha.
Mine wasn't old or dropped. It was a brand new player. Some one had advised to power it off and let it charge that way. That still didn't change the fact when removing it at 100% charge and without doing anything the percentage would just drop like a rock.

I ended up getting a new one (another story) then ended up returning it when I heard about the Note 2 possibly coming to all carriers.
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Mine acts like that too: the last 10%-to- charge slow, 1st 10% to discharge fast. Had a '62 Impala w/ a gas gauge like that haha.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 02:23 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Mine acts like that too: the last 10%-to- charge slow, 1st 10% to discharge fast. Had a '62 Impala w/ a gas gauge like that haha.
Which makes absolutely no sense to me. Initially I thought something was wrong with mine. There replacement doing the same clearly showed me battery management was screwed up from the start. Not sure what Samsung was thinking.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 10:56 AM   #34 (permalink)
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might wanna try this "battery calibration" app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971454
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OK my SGP5 was on all night & some. It was at 100% w/ Gmail, yahoo, both phone apps running, & went to 80% when unplugged from USB.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1971454
Did nothing for me back when I used it.
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OK my SGP5 was on all night & some. It was at 100% w/ Gmail, yahoo, both phone apps running, & went to 80% when unplugged from USB.
The point exactly. This is what the fuss is about. Awesome player but battery never made any sense. Mine would drop to 95% after taking it off the charger which was showing 100%. Then while I'm sitting here wondering WTH just happened it would drop to 90%.

Also let me add, I liked the player for media but for games it brought it to a crawl.
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At night when I go to bed and place it on the charger, when I wake you'd think it'd be at 100%, I'm lucky if it reached 80.

On the rare occasion it reached 100% it immediately drops to 95% the second I unplug it. Not even 5 min later it'll be at 90%. I haven't read this happening to anyone else in all the forums I read so I stumped by this.
Per instructions/manual: Screen must be off to charge properly.
Guages are approximate!
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Per instructions/manual: Screen must be off to charge properly.
Guages are approximate!
Nice little player while I had it. See post #31.
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Well here I am a year later after purchasing my sgp 5 in january of 2012 and still no satisfactory replacement for it, and the batt aint what it used to be. I am getting bored of the same old player also. Hope something else comes out. 4.2 is too small, and for me 7" tab is too big too be "truely" portable. We'll have to just wait and see I guess.
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Well here I am a year later after purchasing my sgp 5 in january of 2012 and still no satisfactory replacement for it, and the batt aint what it used to be. I am getting bored of the same old player also. Hope something else comes out. 4.2 is too small, and for me 7" tab is too big too be "truely" portable. We'll have to just wait and see I guess.
I lost interest in mine the min I knew of the Note 2. Bigger, faster making the SGP 5 something I'd pick up less and less.
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I can understand that, but I have tried 3 smartphones and they have horrible reception. I am on at t. I was missing half my calls! My phone is for my business so that was no good. I stuck with my old nokia bar phone (does not even have a camera) which gets great reception and puchase the sgp to have an android and have been happy ever since.
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13 months on, battery still lasts 9 hours playing video. Battery still charges in 3 1/4 hours to 100%.

never had any of the issues that have been reported here.

I still believe conditioning the battery is the key, as proven by my test results.

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I did everything that was suggested and nothing helped. In the end, it was still a pretty decent device I wouldn't have any problem recommending to others.
Using the Note 2 with 3 spare batteries I don't miss my player at all.
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