Hopefully people will heed the warning, but unfortunately there will always be a few that will still try it and get bricked. There's a great alternative on the market right now that is pretty much safe to use (there's nothing 100% safe when it comes to Modding or changing a ROM). It's name is the A.C.S. Updater......
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My friend downloaded Rom Manger and the phone bricked on him. After trying to Odin back the phone, which didn't work 'cause the phone wouldn't even go into download mode I took the phone, call Samsung told them it wouldn't power on they emailed me a call tag and fixed the phone in about 3 weeks. I sent them no battery cover and memory card. The phone was/is beat up looking abit. They were able to tell by the esn when the phone had been activated and went form there. I got the phone back rooted, shabbyfied it and its been running like a top.
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I downloaded rom manager a while ago way before this post. ive never had a problem with it but ive never changed a rom with it either. Is that where you run into problems or is it with the app itself? i just use it when i need to reboot into recovery if i need to.
I downloaded rom manager a while ago way before this post. ive never had a problem with it but ive never changed a rom with it either. Is that where you run into problems or is it with the app itself? i just use it when i need to reboot into recovery if i need to.
The app downloads fine from the market, but the Prevail is not a supported phone on Rom Manager, none of the ROM's that are on it are for the Prevail. YOU WILL HAVE A $150 plastic brick if you attempt to use a ROM off of the app until the Prevail is finally supported.
A better all around app to use in which the Prevail IS supported is the ACS UPDATER.
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Hey everyone. I am new to these forums and to Android in general. I had this problem last week. I got rooted, uninstalled some things, then installed some apps (ROM Manager being one of them). Stupid! I should have known there was a problem when my phone wasn't one of the available options. Phone is totally black now. No download mode (so I can't use Odin), No recovery mode. Is there anything I can do, or should I just try to see if Samsung can fix it? The phone is only 2 months old. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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Hey everyone. I am new to these forums and to Android in general. I had this problem last week. I got rooted, uninstalled some things, then installed some apps (ROM Manager being one of them). Stupid! I should have known there was a problem when my phone wasn't one of the available options. Phone is totally black now. No download mode (so I can't use Odin), No recovery mode. Is there anything I can do, or should I just try to see if Samsung can fix it? The phone is only 2 months old. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Sorry to say but samsung is now your only hope.
As far as what causes problems it's trying to install a rom. You can use some of the other features fine but stay away from custom roms from rom manager.
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ROM Manager isnt to blame for what could be your own mistakes. I think RM is a great app and it probably didnt brick your phone. You may have by flashing a recovery maybe not meant for you phone.
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ROM Manager isnt to blame for what could be your own mistakes. I think RM is a great app and it probably didnt brick your phone. You may have by flashing a recovery maybe not meant for you phone.
I didn't brick my phone. I posted this as a warning to others because there were a lot of people bricking their phones by trying to install roms and cwm through it.
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I didn't brick my phone. I posted this as a warning to others because there were a lot of people bricking their phones by trying to install roms and cwm through it.
wasn't aimed at anyone in particular
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I've edited a couple of posts that could seem unduly confrontational by members. Please think for a minute before hitting the "submit" button, so that your posts appear informational without being at all personal.
Didnt mean confrontational, just sick of a good app being blamed for 'user error'.
Didnt mean confrontational, just sick of a good app being blamed for 'user error'.
Yes, while Rom Manager may be a good app for SUPPORTED phones, for the Prevail for the time being it is not. I myself in the begining checked it out and realized that most of the selling points of the app wouldn't work with our phones. Honestly, anytime a phone gets bricked, isn't it for the most part usually "user error" though? Lol
There is plenty of info ALL over the web to prevent this from happening.
On one hand I feel somewhat sad for these guys and on the other I don't.
PLEASE READ and inform yourself on what you are about to do to your phone. An hour or two of thread travel can relieve you from alot of pain and suffering.
Also don't be afraid to ask. I've noticed that most of the "HELP MY PHONE IS BRICKED" threads have the OP with a count of 2 or 3 total posts. Just ask if you're not sure about something.
I know that not everyone will help you out sometimes, but maybe that one person will.
Didnt mean confrontational, just sick of a good app being blamed for 'user error'.
I agree it's usually user error and the point in this thread is to avoid that. No offense to anyone but if a user can't tell what not to do and can't read warnings like these them they shouldn't be using apps such as rom manager.
I've never personally used it but I'm sure it is a good program. I'm not blaming it for peoples problems but extreme caution should be used when using an app that doesn't support your device especially one that makes changes at a root/system level.
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Yes, while Rom Manager may be a good app for SUPPORTED phones, for the Prevail for the time being it is not. I myself in the begining checked it out and realized that most of the selling points of the app wouldn't work with our phones. Honestly, anytime a phone gets bricked, isn't it for the most part usually "user error" though? Lol
99.999% of the time its user error lol
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I agree it's usually user error and the point in this thread is to avoid that. No offense to anyone but if a user can't tell what not to do and can't read warnings like these them they shouldn't be using apps such as rom manager.
I've never personally used it but I'm sure it is a good program. I'm not blaming it for peoples problems but extreme caution should be used when using an app that doesn't support your device especially one that makes changes at a root/system level.
I agree, but it should explain why not to use, just not do not use as it will brick your phone. And that topic title will still be there long after, CWM is aviailable officially. I had this same debate in the Optimus M section and ppl saying RM and my CWM port would brick their phone.
I agree, but it should explain why not to use, just not do not use as it will brick your phone. And that topic title will still be there long after, CWM is aviailable officially. I had this same debate in the Optimus M section and ppl saying RM and my CWM port would brick their phone.
Nah, thread title is fine. Anyone with enough experience to not end up bricking their phone wouldn't need a thread to tell them what to or not to use and if they felt comfortable using rom manager they would continue to do so.
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Thanks for the post. I agree that many phones may be saved from this post. I also agree that most of the time it is user error when things go wrong due to lack of information or reading first but, I would also like to state some other bad exp. I've had using rom manager.
i've never bricked my prevail because I read before I act. I know that there isn't Roms for our prevails so I wouldnt try to flash one.
I used Rom Manager for about 4 months. Mostly to reboot phone & into recovery and clean the dalvik, and fix permissions but, in doing that, I have had bad experiances. Twice before I got rid of the app.
The first time I used the fix permissions option(supposedly just like CWM) and when I rebooted it factory reset my phone. Good thing I was turned on to TiBkup in shabby's mod or that would have been rough.
The second time was when I cleaned the dalvik cashe after getting rid of a few apps. again... Factory reset. At that point I realized that RM was just not friendly enough with the prevail...
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I've haven't had a problem with this using CWM since I uninstalled RM
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Thanks for the post. I agree that many phones may be saved from this post. I also agree that most of the time it is user error when things go wrong due to lack of information or reading first but, I would also like to state some other bad exp. I've had using rom manager.
i've never bricked my prevail because I read before I act. I know that there isn't Roms for our prevails so I wouldnt try to flash one.
I used Rom Manager for about 4 months. Mostly to reboot phone & into recovery and clean the dalvik, and fix permissions but, in doing that, I have had bad experiances. Twice before I got rid of the app.
The first time I used the fix permissions option(supposedly just like CWM) and when I rebooted it factory reset my phone. Good thing I was turned on to TiBkup in shabby's mod or that would have been rough.
The second time was when I cleaned the dalvik cashe after getting rid of a few apps. again... Factory reset. At that point I realized that RM was just not friendly enough with the prevail...
Oh, just for reference...
Im rooted
Shabby kernel & shabbymod .9
V6supercharged, 3gturbo, & using kickasskernel
I've haven't had a problem with this using CWM since I uninstalled RM
the thing is RM and CWM work together as a unit. Now CWM can work just fine w/o RM, but RM needs CWM to do most of what it is intended to do. So again its not the apps fault. I got hroark up to speed on how to submit his build of CWM to koush so it can be officially built and merged into RM. SO hopefully once he gets that done koush will get it done in a reasonable time frame.
And in most cases CWM has to be officially built to have full RM support. I have seen unofficial builds work fully, but they had to be installed with RM, but I have found most ppl cant follow the instructions on how to install it with RM.
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the thing is RM and CWM work together as a unit. Now CWM can work just fine w/o RM, but RM needs CWM to do most of what it is intended to do. So again its not the apps fault. I got hroark up to speed on how to submit his build of CWM to koush so it can be officially built and merged into RM. SO hopefully once he gets that done koush will get it done in a reasonable time frame.
And in most cases CWM has to be officially built to have full RM support. I have seen unofficial builds work fully, but they had to be installed with RM, but I have found most ppl cant follow the instructions on how to install it with RM.
Yeah it does seem complicated for the average user. Im a bit of a computer geek and have been working with linux for quite some years now and after reading extensively on dutta's site I know I can do it but, the average android user probly isn't going to research the documentation and again, the app will take the blame.
Also, im glad you brought that up about CWM having to be built specificly for the device and that it had to be installed by RM. I got CWM from hroark's package with his latest kernel. I know he moded it to work with the prevail but is it an actual specific build or just one that works? I suspected this might be the case with my problem but didn't have the info to back up my theory. If so then that would also fall under the user error cat. as well.
the thing is RM and CWM work together as a unit. Now CWM can work just fine w/o RM, but RM needs CWM to do most of what it is intended to do. So again its not the apps fault. I got hroark up to speed on how to submit his build of CWM to koush so it can be officially built and merged into RM. SO hopefully once he gets that done koush will get it done in a reasonable time frame.
And in most cases CWM has to be officially built to have full RM support. I have seen unofficial builds work fully, but they had to be installed with RM, but I have found most ppl cant follow the instructions on how to install it with RM.
Yeah it does seem complicated for the average user. Im a bit of a computer geek and have been working with linux for quite some years now and after reading extensively on dutta's site I know I can do it but, the average android user probly isn't going to research the documentation and again, the app will take the blame.
Also, im glad you brought that up about CWM having to be built specificly for the device and that it had to be installed by RM. I got CWM from hroark's package with his latest kernel. I know he moded it to work with the prevail but is it an actual specific build or just one that works? I suspected this might be the case with my problem but didn't have the info to back up my theory. If so then that would also fall under the user error cat. as well.
the thing is RM and CWM work together as a unit. Now CWM can work just fine w/o RM, but RM needs CWM to do most of what it is intended to do. So again its not the apps fault. I got hroark up to speed on how to submit his build of CWM to koush so it can be officially built and merged into RM. SO hopefully once he gets that done koush will get it done in a reasonable time frame.
And in most cases CWM has to be officially built to have full RM support. I have seen unofficial builds work fully, but they had to be installed with RM, but I have found most ppl cant follow the instructions on how to install it with RM.
unless something has changed last time i knew he had to edit graphics.c in the android_bootable_recovery section. which would cause koush to deny official status.
me personally dont see a reason why everyone wants rom manager support. the only thing that will happen then is you can flash cwm in the app.. there wont be any roms or themes or kernels in there....
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I hard-bricked my Prevail by using Rom Manager. And yes, it was definitely user error. I never said the program was to blame. Just a tip.... Mobiletechvideos.com offers a JTAG service that can restore a hard-bricked phone. It's $30 and I got my phone back in a week. It's been fine ever since.
I bricked my phone using this...I was trying to partition my SD card and now I have a brick.
Is there any way to reverse this? Trust me I feel enough like a tool for doing this that any guidance would be much appreciated. I'm new to this whole root thing so go easy on me
I bricked my phone using this...I was trying to partition my SD card and now I have a brick.
Is there any way to reverse this? Trust me I feel enough like a tool for doing this that any guidance would be much appreciated. I'm new to this whole root thing so go easy on me
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Last edited by mavrikmeercat; November 13th, 2011 at 01:00 AM.
The app downloads fine from the market, but the Prevail is not a supported phone on Rom Manager, none of the ROM's that are on it are for the Prevail. YOU WILL HAVE A $150 plastic brick if you attempt to use a ROM off of the app until the Prevail is finally supported.
A better all around app to use in which the Prevail IS supported is the ACS UPDATER.
thanks for the info but what should i do now. cause i bricked my phone? please
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thanks for the info but what should i do now. cause i bricked my phone? please
If the phone is completly dead and wont power on or power into download mode then sorry to say but your screwed and will have to send the phone back to samsung or buy a new one. If it does come on in download mode then use the ODIN method on the all things root page and you can restore your phone.
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If the phone is completly dead and wont power on or power into download mode then sorry to say but your screwed and will have to send the phone back to samsung or buy a new one. If it does come on in download mode then use the ODIN method on the all things root page and you can restore your phone.
Like what 76Ford said, if it won't power on or go into download mode, then you will have to send it in for repair. Hopefully you have insurance on it or haven't had the phone too long. It might actually be cheaper to just buy a new one instead though. Whatever you do, just don't use ROM MANAGER for the ROMs or it will happen again....
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Reason: Stupid predictive text errors
I downloaded the ROM MANAGER this morning. I fiddled with it, but did not select from the first link, which type of carrier or phone (I can't remember what it exactly asked of me) I had.
None of what was listed looked like anything familiar to me. So, like an idiot, I just picked one. Something then downloaded in my phone.
After that I closed the app and began downloading GO LAUNCHER. I then rebooted and was HARD BRICKED!
FYI: The first option in ROM MANAGER is called "Flash ClockWorkMod". If you choose the incorrect option in this category, you will end up bricking your phone. I haven't found a tutorial that correctly identifies which one works for the Samsung Prevail.
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FYI: The first option in ROM MANAGER is called "Flash ClockWorkMod". If you choose the incorrect option in this category, you will end up bricking your phone. I haven't found a tutorial that correctly identifies which one works for the Samsung Prevail.
This is clock work mod for the prevail. Kinda late though since your bricked.
FYI: The first option in ROM MANAGER is called "Flash ClockWorkMod". If you choose the incorrect option in this category, you will end up bricking your phone. I haven't found a tutorial that correctly identifies which one works for the Samsung Prevail.
Will the phone even power on? I know you said that it was "hard bricked", but....
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Just a little outsider perspective...
I have a Huawei Ascend and usually hang in that forum section. I'm here researching to mod my friends Prevail.
I know Playful God's reputation well and have used his build religiously. (pardon the pun) So you can take his word on the RM being a good app if used correctly.
I will advise all noob modders to read, Read, READ every thread they can. Then take a nap. Wake up. Eat your Wheaties. THEN READ SOME MORE!
I read every mod thread I could for 3 weeks. I wrote questions in the forums and asked more after I got my answers. When I didnt understand what they said, I asked them to clarify. I made notes. wrote out the steps in order and then did 3 dress rehersal walkthroughs before I ever clicked the first step in the actual process...and guess what?
I STILL screwed up a couple steps.
And I went back and asked more.
To the noobs on here, I did all this with an Ascend. A simple little phone thats damn near unbrickable, and even with all the prep theres still a chance to screw up.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
Modding a phone is very complex to a novice and you will find yourself on here writing a "Please Help Me!" thread if you dont take the time to do it right. Most of the people in the androidforums are very cool, patient and answer your questions without making you feel like an idiot for asking. SO ASK!
my daughter had my phone n got in to rom manager dont know wat she did but i cant make or recieve calls everything else works fine just cant make or get calls.. can someone help plzzzzzzz
my daughter had my phone n got in to rom manager dont know wat she did but i cant make or recieve calls everything else works fine just cant make or get calls.. can someone help plzzzzzzz
Could it be possible that she put the phone into airplane mode instead and that's the reason that you can't make or receive calls?
You could possibly use Odin to flash back to stock, or if you have Clockworkmod installed you might be able to just flash your recovery image, but this is all speculation with the limited information provided due to the unknown....
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Has anyone used ROM toolbox to get cyanogenmod 7? I want to get thie rom but dont want to screw my phone up. I am rooted stock right now on the pevail with 2.3.5. Thanks for the help.
Do you think you can lead me to a step by step tutorial on this flashing mods? I have a prevail and just rooted after two weeks of reading on that. I really am interested in getting to know more about this but at the same time I dont want to brick my phone. I have no problem reading but there seems to be so much confusion on what is good for a prevail. Just wanting to get the most I can out of this phone that I swore Id never pay so much for. Dont get me wrong... I like it, but now its time to get a little more from it. Thanks for all that Ive learned in the last couple weeks. I appreciate the time that people are putting into this forum. I havent seen any death marches on here. Thats nice that people seem to know what theyre talking about on here.
Has anyone used ROM toolbox to get cyanogenmod 7? I want to get thie rom but dont want to screw my phone up. I am rooted stock right now on the pevail with 2.3.5. Thanks for the help.
The only place that you can get Cyanogenmod for the Prevail is right here. None of the ROMs on any of the big name apps are compatible and you will brick your phone.
Has anyone used ROM toolbox to get cyanogenmod 7? I want to get thie rom but dont want to screw my phone up. I am rooted stock right now on the pevail with 2.3.5. Thanks for the help.
No. don't use any apps that don't support the phone to flash roms. As of now the only way to get cm7 for this phone is from hroark's thread. The only problem is, unless it changed because I've been away for a while, is that you can't flash cm over the gingerbread kernel.
If that's still the case you can use odin to flash back to froyo with clockwork mod (there is a lot of info on how to do this in the forum) and then download and flash cm.
I personally don't use cm so the best build I had, and was quite content with, was shabby mod 0.9 loaded with shabby's kernel and dta2sd and 3g supercharger.
The majority of the mods we have available have little trip no chance of brick and even then most of them can easily be recovered using odin. Read into odin, always have your backup already downloaded and ready to go, follow instructions on the mods to a t and you should be fine.
I was anxious my first time too but maybe start by trying out shabby mod, it's simple, quick and once you're done you'll feel a whole lot better about trying other mods.
Yeah. Take it slow. Read all you can. If you are on Froyo try out Shabby .9 It is the best for Froyo.
Do Not use ROM manager. I bought it when I first got my phone. Uninstall it. You can not use it with the Prevail for anything worth keeping. It will brick your phone.
Install CWM recovery using Odin to back up your stuff. Use the TB app to backup your apps. Learn to use the Kouma Odin Packer to backup your phone. Backup your SD card to a PC.
Backup.
Then consider upgrading to GB using Odin. Try CTMOD and CM7.
Explore using sd-ext to extend your memory using either A2SD or Link2SD.
Also for CM7, S2E or the Hroark solution.
Take your time, but get your backup situation figured out.
Uninstall ROM manager now!
Have fun!
Edit: oops sorry, I see you are already on GB, good. Disregard the Froyo stuff.
But still backup and uninstall ROM manager.
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Yeah. Take it slow. Read all you can. If you are on Froyo try out Shabby .9 It is the best for Froyo.
Do Not use ROM manager. I bought it when I first got my phone. Uninstall it. You can not use it with the Prevail for anything worth keeping. It will brick your phone.
Install CWM recovery using Odin to back up your stuff. Use the TB app to backup your apps. Learn to use the Kouma Odin Packer to backup your phone. Backup your SD card to a PC.
Backup.
Then consider upgrading to GB using Odin. Try CTMOD and CM7.
Explore using sd-ext to extend your memory using either A2SD or Link2SD.
Also for CM7, S2E or the Hroark solution.
Take your time, but get your backup situation figured out.
Uninstall ROM manager now!
Have fun!
Edit: oops sorry, I see you are already on GB, good. Disregard the Froyo stuff.
But still backup and uninstall ROM manager.
I'm trying to get clarification. When I search the market or app store for cwm rom manager is what comes up. When I download rom manager there is something to do with cwm in that app. Are you saying there's a different app to download?
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I'm trying to get clarification. When I search the market or app store for cwm rom manager is what comes up. When I download rom manager there is something to do with cwm in that app. Are you saying there's a different app to download?
Do not use that app to try and put cwm on your phone, you will be very unhappy and your phone will not work, at all.
What new optimus said. This version is installed using odin and is made specifically for the prevail. You don't want to end up with a pretty paper weight.
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