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Old August 27th, 2012, 03:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Apple wants Prevail Banned.

From: Apple lists 8 Samsung products it wants banned

Apple submitted the list after a jury found Samsung copied the iPhone and iPad in creating and marketing the products.
The products are:


Galaxy S 4G
Galaxy S2 AT&T
Galaxy S2
Galaxy S2 T-Mobile
Galaxy S2 Epic 4G
Galaxy S Showcase
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Galaxy Prevail


A judge will decide the issue later.

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Of all the above mentioned phones, the Galaxy Prevail resembles an iPhone closest in bevel and screen size, yet it's the least powerful of them all, but I heard it's Samsung's most successfully sold phone, so it'll be an interesting decision
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So, if it gets banned, and therefore becomes illegal to sell in the United States, does that mean those of us who have a prevail can be charged with possession of illegal contraband?
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Apple just needs to chill out... We're all humans, and we all have similar ideas. I mean IS THAT NOT WHAT STEVE JOBS DID WHEN HE "REINVENTED" THE MP3 PLAYER, HOME COMPUTER, AND MOBILE PHONE? Yes, he did tweak lots of things about them, but he still got them from other people's ideas!!
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I think all this is crap from apple.
They can't make anything great to save themselves. So its plan Z for them.
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It will be quite interesting to see how this all plays out.

Especially since Samsung makes most of the chips for Apple's iPhones and iPads.

(Anyone else thinking mysterious production line problems and chip shortages are in Apple's future?)
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IMO this is ridiculous! There are gonna be similarities between various devices (and apps). Why are they blowing this out of proportion?
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Apple just needs to chill out... We're all humans, and we all have similar ideas. I mean IS THAT NOT WHAT STEVE JOBS DID WHEN HE "REINVENTED" THE MP3 PLAYER, HOME COMPUTER, AND MOBILE PHONE? Yes, he did tweak lots of things about them, but he still got them from other people's ideas!!
Many may despise Apple for suing Samsung but the fact is a jury of peers decided that Samsung did indeed infringe on Apple's patented properties, so as an end result, Samsung's most infringing products need to come off the shelves, as decided by a jury. So hate and question the jury of nine's unanimous decision if anything, don't hate Apple for following the leagl system and being smart enough to legally patent their designs when there was no Android to speak of in the first place, in preparation for a scenario like a co. like Samsung copying its iPhone

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It will be quite interesting to see how this all plays out.

Especially since Samsung makes most of the chips for Apple's iPhones and iPads.

(Anyone else thinking mysterious production line problems and chip shortages are in Apple's future?)
Apple's already excluding YouTube from being pre-installed on iPhones, and developed their own version of Maps (Google's versions are downloadable from App Store), so they're distancing themselves from Google and relying more on various companies for apps and services like Facebook and Twitter. So they're copying Google's approach of divesting their interest into many eggs so that when a partner like Samsung or Google goes sour their world isn't rocked upside down
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Ha ha. Lordvincent. That was funny.

I'll give up my Prevail when they pry it from my cold dead hands. I might have a bunch of fancier phones but I have a lot of love for my Prevail. I stopped using it quite some time ago but it is still somewhere safe. I cant tell you where some of the phones that I have at my house are (I have more phones than fingers) but I can tell you where my Prevail is.

On a side note. If it does get banned does putting it up on Craigslist make one a criminal?
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On a side note. If it does get banned does putting it up on Craigslist make one a criminal?
That's what I was asking! I can see the headlines now:

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I am guessing you are joking, but


Our Prevails' are part of the awarded judgement so are accounted for and cannot be banned, only sales of new Prevails might be banned.
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My guess is if Apple is awarded a sales ban on Prevails then Samsung will not be allowed to sell it to carriers and retailers in America, carriers and retailers would not be allowed to sell beyond what's in stock to consumers, and consumers will be able to freely barter swap trade in the secondhand market
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Indeed I was joking.....I'd highly doubt they're gonna come knockin' door to door to remove the already-sold "offending" phones.

Regardless, this WILL have implacations on Boost's image and advertising. From what I know, Boost has the Prevail as its budget Android phone. With it gone, the next available phone is the Transform Ultra, which is a mid-tier phone.

Boost essentially can no longer say they have an option for those people on an extreme budget who wanted a smartphone. That's gotta effect their bottom-line in one way or another.
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What about the new waterproof one? $130 sounds like a budget model to me
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I believe I read that it cannot be rooted.
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So. That had nothing to do with the majority of consumers' decision when it comes to phones. If it did, Apple would be extinct

You give people too much credit
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Yup, read that post from Shabbypenguin too why the Hydro will not be rooted !! Here is Shabby's post :

lol let me start off by saying hroark already returned his hydro ;P

its sig checking kernel and recovery at boot aka until you bypass it you arent getting a custom kernel or recovery. no fastboot, no root, nada

until the next big android exploit comes out (think rageagainstthecage, or gingerbreak, or even zergrush...) there is not going to be much in the root department.

in all honesty you might wanna post this info over on the subforums for them so any potential buyers are forewarned
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The prevail was found to not infringe on the design patents only some software ones which should be fixable with an update which means that they is going to be another update in our future. But since I am rooted and using CTMod I dont have to worry about updates. As for the jury they completely skipped over the patent disscussion according to the jury foreman and if you watch the interview with him ypou will see that he has no idea what the **** he is talking about when it comes to technology patents.
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Here you go a post on the main site with a chart of what devices infringe on what patents and as you can see the prevail infringes on some utility patents and zero design patents

Apple files to have 8 Samsung phones banned in the US, including most of the Galaxy S2 line

I will also get a link to the interview I was referring to.

I would assume that the utility patents are all software related meaning they can be fixed with an update to our little phone.

And heres a link to the video I was talking about

http://phandroid.com/2012/08/28/jury-foreman-explains-how-they-reached-a-verdict-in-apple-vs-samsung-case-video/
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I had a hard time looking for the interview. Maybe Bloomburg took their page down? Anyway. Given the link and the other information I gathered I talked to our good friend Google and it spit out this other page where the video was embedded.

Apple vs Samsung Jury foreman speaks with Bloomberg in video interview - SlashGear
Try the middle of the page.
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Kolosus whats wrong with the video I linked to it works perfectly fine here.
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Not sure. When I go to the page I just get a screen cap and an article linking to Bloomburg at the bottom. Maybe its me. I'm on a linux machine using Firefox. My windows installs are not allowed on the net.
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It will be quite interesting to see how this all plays out.

Especially since Samsung makes most of the chips for Apple's iPhones and iPads.

(Anyone else thinking mysterious production line problems and chip shortages are in Apple's future?)
and the new Retina Display which Apple touts as the best thing since bacon...
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It kinda backfired on Apple. Apple PROVED that these cheaper phones are EASILY as good as the iPhoney. Why spend the cash and get locked into apple?

(and apple has been playing catch-up for a while now)
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Isn't this interesting:

Samsung hits Apple with 20% price hike

"Samsung Electronics recently asked Apple for a significant price raise in (the mobile processor known as) application processor," the person was quoted as saying in the report. "Apple first disapproved it, but finding no replacement supplier, it accepted the (increase.)"

Samsung hits Apple with 20% price hike: report - MarketWatch

Gosh, I wonder what brought that on?
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That's GREAT!

My interpretation of apple:

You want more money?


We'll just go somewhere else...


Wait... you're the only ones who can make it?


Ok..... ..... fine... ... how much more?



20%?!?!?!
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It looks like there may be a problem now with Apple's case:

Samsung's Request for New Trial in Apple Case Rests on Dec. 6 Hearing
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Apple is just jealous because Samsung is giving them some major competition lol.

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