Its now been almost 10 days w/ this new phone (transfer from HTC Desire) and I cannot stand the lack of sophisticated SMS Notifications.
Not only does this phone lack a blinking LED for notifications (for example, when you were in the shower and return to look - always have to open up the phone) - I just noticed that the audio notification will continue until you acknowledge the SMS.
I just figured out why my phone's power went down 50% in an hour - the audio notification kept going off.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong (wouldn't be the first time ) but, I'm Android savvy and phone savvy. I've been all through the menus, and can't find a way to have the audio alarm for SMS notification (using Handcent) go off only one time...
there were some things that Nokia did right, and this was one of them.
I'm glad there are plenty of people at work who want my phone - I'll sell it to them
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Try loading the stock messaging app, where you see your list of messages/contacts, press your menu button and select settings. Here you can change sms/mms settings, alerts, tones, vibration etc.
Tbh putting down a phone so bad just because it sites not have an LED? Seriously? When all you have to do is hit a button to wake the phone so you can se if you have a message.
Your persistent notifications problem sounds weird, sounds like its faulty to me, because it shouldn't be doing that (could be a Handcent problem, but I would have thought others would also have reported that by now, since it has many users). Your power drain also sounds suspicious for some problem, no way a recurring notification sound would drain battery that much (or anything else for that matter).
I'd try removing Handcent temporarily to see if that fixes the battery drain and install NoLED to give you on screen alerts to new messages. It's what i use and i have no battery problems or repeating audio alerts.
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Originally Posted by leightos
Not only does this phone lack a blinking LED for notifications
I just figured out why my phone's power went down 50% in an hour - the audio notification kept going off.
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Did you notice the lack of LED before buying the phone? It's YOUR responsibility to make sure what you are buying will do the job for YOU - not sammy's.
If your phone's battery went down 50% in an hour (down TO 50% or down BY 50%??) then it's hardly down to a short sound file being played is it??
I think you have buyer's remorse - which is understandable.
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I am somewhat confused by all of you that have a "need" to use an app, for something that the phone already does. It has a notification strip along the top of the screen, and as such, an sms icon, is displayed (can be turned off) when you have an sms ... Same for battery widgets, theres already an icon.
So you hit a button when your phone is "asleep" and you get your lock screen, with your notifications strip, and you can see any alerts, so why do you "need" to waste your time with apps to tell you the same thing as is already displayed?
Maybe it's just me? I just don't see the logic of it.
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I am somewhat confused by all of you that have a "need" to use an app, for something that the phone already does. It has a notification strip along the top of the screen, and as such, an sms icon, is displayed (can be turned off) when you have an sms ... Same for battery widgets, theres already an icon.
So you hit a button when your phone is "asleep" and you get your lock screen, with your notifications strip, and you can see any alerts, so why do you "need" to waste your time with apps to tell you the same thing as is already displayed?
Maybe it's just me? I just don't see the logic of it.
They want a notification that they can see even when the phone is asleep. An LED would do this for you, as would NOLED, and many other notification apps. I don't use it too much myself, but that is to what they are referring.
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Ah right then ... Thanks for that.
[sarcasm]So soon I'll be noticing an influx of topics/posts about battery drain, due to the screen being on needlessly, from this fix then, all because people don't want to press a button to find out if they have a text. Where will it end ... Lol [/sarcasm]
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I too missed the Notification light on my Desire but now use NOLED and find it works great...not sure the effect on battery vs and LED but I can live with it.
I think there is a setting in Handcent that you can choose amount of times it replays notification - it's called Reminders....
I have moved from Handcent to GO SMS which is very similar.
A guy made it for the Galaxy S and it looked really good. Just flashed the menu and back button to show a message/call.
I know someone else has emailed him. If he gets a few, hopefully he'll update the app to work with the GSII. That's what I'll be doing when I get my GSII.
I am somewhat confused by all of you that have a "need" to use an app, for something that the phone already does. It has a notification strip along the top of the screen, and as such, an sms icon, is displayed (can be turned off) when you have an sms ... Same for battery widgets, theres already an icon.
So you hit a button when your phone is "asleep" and you get your lock screen, with your notifications strip, and you can see any alerts, so why do you "need" to waste your time with apps to tell you the same thing as is already displayed?
Maybe it's just me? I just don't see the logic of it.
some of us want to be right on top of a notification when it comes without turning the phone on all the time.
here's an example...
i love to leave my phone sitting around the house. a lot of people, like myself, don't carry their device around 24/7. so if it's not in your pocket, hand, or not within hearing distance, you miss that notification right? without an LED, or some type of reminder, who knows how long it will be before you actually wake your phone up. i don't know about you, but i'm not obsessive with turning my phone on and poking it.
this is where sms popup comes in for me. you can set it to actually wake the phone up and show part of the message. you can also set it to display said message on the device for a desired period of time (mine is set to 1min). and then, if i still somehow miss it, i have a reminder set for 5min after. and yes, i've totally relied on a reminder beep before to notify me a second time.
so it's not about needing an LED, is about wanting one so you can get back to people in a quickly fashion without obsessively turning your phone on to check for said notifications.
but i agree with others... you bought the phone, and possibly at a ridiculous price, so you were prob aware that it didn't have an LED. so why say it's the worst phone when you paid for it knowing it didn't have one? that just seems silly to me.
i still have yet to hear a valid complaint, not personal preference, as to why someone doesn't like the phone. that's a good thing
so excited and can't wait for mine to get here!
Good suggestions to go around the lack of LED notification - coming from the N900 I am positive I will miss this when I start using the S2, but knowing how wide the variety of apps is I was sure there would be some workaround with another visual cue.
I receive *alot* of SMS (Nagios certainly ..nags) so I've disabled the SMS audio alert on the N900 and instead rely on the LED which keeps blinking until I acknowledge the SMS(es). This way I don't have to hear some beep every few minutes while not at work, and I can just turn my head towards the phone to instantly see if there's any missed call or SMS. It's also more discreet in darkness (eg movies) to peek in a pocket and see if the LED blinks instead of turning the screen on and blasting everyone around me with its light.
All in all a very useful feature that I will miss, but I'm sure one of the apps suggested above will work just nicely so thanks all.
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OP - Handcent has lots of options under the hood for notifications. Turn 'em all on to max, and it will drain battery. I like and use Handcent myself, but others find GO SMS to be a better choice. And as advised earlier - lots of folks seem to like NoLED for notifications, regardless.
[sarcasm]So soon I'll be noticing an influx of topics/posts about battery drain, due to the screen being on needlessly, from this fix then, all because people don't want to press a button to find out if they have a text. Where will it end ... Lol [/sarcasm]
As a small business owner, I require a notification light so I don't have to stop working in order to continuously poke my phone to see if a client contacted me. A notification light during meetings is critically important to me, as well. In addition, I enjoy being made aware that I've missed a message in case it's an emergency call. For me, it's similar to my oil gauge on my car. I'd rather look at a gauge than having to physically check my oil levels all the time. It's too bad RIM has produced garbage over the last 2 years or I'd stick with them. With so many business people leaving RIM, Android phones are being used for business more and more, so hopefully they'll accommodate the business community in the future. Apple has done this with the iPhone, but I will never purchase an Apple phone. For consumers who use their phone for entertainment, Android is perfect. Without a notification LED, this Samsung phone is worthless to me. I'm not looking for entertainment. I use my phone as a business tool. I'm not sure why some people here become so rude and enraged over a perfectly logical issue about the S2 and other phones missing a notification light.
Because this phone doesn't have a notification light, I won't buy it. Perhaps in future releases, Samsung will, as I already stated, accommodate the business community.
As a small business owner, I require a notification light so I don't have to stop working in order to continuously poke my phone to see if a client contacted me. A notification light during meetings is critically important to me, as well. In addition, I enjoy being made aware that I've missed a message in case it's an emergency call. For me, it's similar to my oil gauge on my car. I'd rather look at a gauge than having to physically check my oil levels all the time. It's too bad RIM has produced garbage over the last 2 years or I'd stick with them. With so many business people leaving RIM, Android phones are being used for business more and more, so hopefully they'll accommodate the business community in the future. Apple has done this with the iPhone, but I will never purchase an Apple phone. For consumers who use their phone for entertainment, Android is perfect. Without a notification LED, this Samsung phone is worthless to me. I'm not looking for entertainment. I use my phone as a business tool. I'm not sure why some people here become so rude and enraged over a perfectly logical issue about the S2 and other phones missing a notification light.
Because this phone doesn't have a notification light, I won't buy it. Perhaps in future releases, Samsung will, as I already stated, accommodate the business community.
Off topic, but I suggest you wait half a year, (at most - I think) for a BB torch/bold/touch that has a 1.2Ghz processor. If your happy with the form factor, that'll certainly bring RIM to the "top-level" and would appear to meet your needs.
They want a notification that they can see even when the phone is asleep. An LED would do this for you, as would NOLED, and many other notification apps. I don't use it too much myself, but that is to what they are referring.
Not only does it display a variety of different icons for miss calls, texts, emails, (something a flashing led cannot do), it also displays the number of unread emails too!
But with all due respect my reply stating that the poster should research that a phone had an led blinker is no worse than stating that the gs2 is "the worst EVER phone"
How would you like it if I said, with all due respect, you should have researched the SGS2 before having a volume problem.
Telling someone to go back in time and do things your way is not respectful, it's kind of like rock throwing.
As a small business owner, I require a notification light so I don't have to stop working in order to continuously poke my phone to see if a client contacted me. A notification light during meetings is critically important to me, as well. In addition, I enjoy being made aware that I've missed a message in case it's an emergency call. For me, it's similar to my oil gauge on my car. I'd rather look at a gauge than having to physically check my oil levels all the time. It's too bad RIM has produced garbage over the last 2 years or I'd stick with them. With so many business people leaving RIM, Android phones are being used for business more and more, so hopefully they'll accommodate the business community in the future. Apple has done this with the iPhone, but I will never purchase an Apple phone. For consumers who use their phone for entertainment, Android is perfect. Without a notification LED, this Samsung phone is worthless to me. I'm not looking for entertainment. I use my phone as a business tool. I'm not sure why some people here become so rude and enraged over a perfectly logical issue about the S2 and other phones missing a notification light.
Because this phone doesn't have a notification light, I won't buy it. Perhaps in future releases, Samsung will, as I already stated, accommodate the business community.
I always held that business users who don't care for the entertainment factor that such large full-touchscreen phones provide may be better served with a rugged phone with a half-keyboard and a few days of battery life, like the Blackberries or the Nokia E series. Thus, after Apple implemented proper Exchange support to cater to their needs, I was actually surprised by the number of executives using the Iphone. I had forgotten that they are people too with their vanities and need for pretty gadgets
I still think that business users are better served by something that doesn't need re-charge every 1-2 days and won't need extra care to not break or get scratched (eg during travel), but with the fancy new phones offering business features they're becoming a viable solution.
brisance, if the lack of LED is your only reason to stay away from such Android phones, take a look at the various apps suggested in this thread like NoLED and the Cute Blinker video embedded above. They provide the same visual hint that something's up by using various lights, and in fact are programmable.
I'd try removing Handcent temporarily to see if that fixes the battery drain and install NoLED to give you on screen alerts to new messages. It's what i use and i have no battery problems or repeating audio alerts.
Thanks for the NOLED app. Was never bothered about notification light, but having one is quite nice.
I'm the one who started this thread - oh man did I open a can of worms. Sorry for all that...
my update is that I finally sold the S G S2. I gotta tell ya, that not having a notification light is that important. The GS2 has the greatest screen, but, couldn't handle all the little things that drove me crazy.
I have been waiting for a new HTC w/ NFC and LTE connection. Unfortunately the new Nexus has this ...but, they dropped back to a 5MP camera and no SD card (for what I've heard). How do Engineers (and I'm an Engineer for a major international company) design phones that go backwards in specifications like that? Both Samsung and HTC drop the ball like this...
cheers... good luck
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Wow I came from the Desire as well and will not even put it in the same league as the S2. Tell you the truth even with my Desire I was still missing text messages. For me I have my phone near me most of the day. The Galaxy S2 is not the worst phone at all even with out the LED light lol like come on. I use Handcent and have not had that problem at all even with the stock sms I have not had that and I have not changed anything so I would look into your settings for sure.
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I find it amusing that absence of LED in a phone to notify of messages makes it the worst phone: despite the device scoring over other phones in all the features, even 8 months after launch...
I am from Blackberry 9000, and I interestingly agree that the lack of LED is not convenient. Actually, I am not that happy with the stock SMS. It is just not 'sophisticated' enough.
For example, when I send you a piece of text sms to two friends, say Michael and Bob. And it was a success.
However if I take a view of the chat history with Michael, that message will not appear in it.
Also, if I change a name of certain contact, it will not update in the sms history.
Really hope there will be some change in the future.
I installed NoLED as son as I got my phone but I also use GoSMS and find that I no longer get the NoLED notification. Anyone know how to get them to work in conjunction wuith each other?
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I'm the one who started this thread - oh man did I open a can of worms. Sorry for all that...
my update is that I finally sold the S G S2. I gotta tell ya, that not having a notification light is that important. The GS2 has the greatest screen, but, couldn't handle all the little things that drove me crazy.
I have been waiting for a new HTC w/ NFC and LTE connection. Unfortunately the new Nexus has this ...but, they dropped back to a 5MP camera and no SD card (for what I've heard). How do Engineers (and I'm an Engineer for a major international company) design phones that go backwards in specifications like that? Both Samsung and HTC drop the ball like this...
cheers... good luck
Leightos
Unless you're printing large posters, megapixels really aren't important. The camera may actually be worse, I haven't looked into it, but don't go by megapixels alone. That's marketing cheat tactics
The lack of a MicroSD card slot is pretty risky though.
Have to say, lack of LED light is annoying, but I am not surprised that reviews or people might run it down for it's lack. I mean, people run down phones with no front facing cameras, even though they are pretty much still a niche thing.
As for megapixel myth, I don't buy all that nonsense. They should release a report called the "Speed of your car myth" and say that because you can only do 70mph on the motorway, that you don't need cars that do £100mph.. who's going to listen to that either lol.
If you want to crop and blow up one person in a photo, it's going to be better on an 8mp camera, it will be better than someone doing it on a 5mp camera of similar quality. And so on up to 14mp, cropping someone and blowing them up will be better if all cameras are the same quality.
Although, people will find issue with anything that they miss that they are used to having.
I just have a super long vibrate and my phone on loud lol
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Have to say, lack of LED light is annoying, but I am not surprised that reviews or people might run it down for it's lack. I mean, people run down phones with no front facing cameras, even though they are pretty much still a niche thing.
As for megapixel myth, I don't buy all that nonsense. They should release a report called the "Speed of your car myth" and say that because you can only do 70mph on the motorway, that you don't need cars that do £100mph.. who's going to listen to that either lol.
If you want to crop and blow up one person in a photo, it's going to be better on an 8mp camera, it will be better than someone doing it on a 5mp camera of similar quality. And so on up to 14mp, cropping someone and blowing them up will be better if all cameras are the same quality.
Although, people will find issue with anything that they miss that they are used to having.
I just have a super long vibrate and my phone on loud lol
And yet for people who just want to take good quality, normal photos, rather than blown up posters (i.e. the majority), extra pixels can add noise to the photo and actually degrade the quality.
Extra MPs is good for some purposes but not others. It's primarily a marketing ploy.. people think it MUST be better if it has a higher MP count.
Processor speeds are used in a similar way. A 3GHz processor with a much newer and more advanced architecture will actually be faster and be able to get more done than a 3.4GHz with an ancient architecture, despite having a lower clock speed.
ok anyone know how to make handcent work well with noled? it seems like the pop up message stays on the screen with the little colored LED's dancing in behind it. Usually handcent message go away after 8 seconds or so. now they are permanently there?
I still want the pop up message but say im in the shower or something i want the pop up to dissapear like normal and leave the LEDs flashing about
Processor speeds are used in a similar way. A 3GHz processor with a much newer and more advanced architecture will actually be faster and be able to get more done than a 3.4GHz with an ancient architecture, despite having a lower clock speed.
It's all trickery.
I've found the easiest way to explain this is to use a car analogy. Let's take two identical cars. One of them is running at 4k RPMs, but in first gear. The other is running at 2k RPMs, but is in 4th gear. Which car is truly running faster?
CPUs are the same, and so far, IMO, the best way to accurately measure a mobile CPU's potential performance is via DMIPS. Cortex A8 runs at 2 DMPs/clock cycle, while Scorpion runs at 2.1. Cortex A9 runs at 2.5, while Krait runs at 3.3 and Cortex A15 runs at 3.5 (estimated). So, if all CPUs are running single core at 1ghz, an A15 will be nearly twice as fast an an A8.
ok anyone know how to make handcent work well with noled? it seems like the pop up message stays on the screen with the little colored LED's dancing in behind it. Usually handcent message go away after 8 seconds or so. now they are permanently there?
I still want the pop up message but say im in the shower or something i want the pop up to dissapear like normal and leave the LEDs flashing about
thanks
I have the opposite problem to this with GoSMS Pro.. the NoLED indicators show up on screen perfectly but the popup window I used to get with GoSMS Pro now no longer pops up.. I have to go into GoSMS to view the new text. Not a deal breaker but a bit frustrating. It's definitely a NoLED issue as when I disable it the popup comes back when the next text arrives.
Going back to the initial OP post I understand the initial annoyance at finding no LED indicator but with the options out there being even better don't see why it is still a problem.
ok anyone know how to make handcent work well with noled? it seems like the pop up message stays on the screen with the little colored LED's dancing in behind it. Usually handcent message go away after 8 seconds or so. now they are permanently there?
I still want the pop up message but say im in the shower or something i want the pop up to dissapear like normal and leave the LEDs flashing about
thanks
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did you get noled working with handcent, i have installed both but now the Noled does not seem to work.
Well Just have to get my two cents in, ;0) I know i'll be stoned to death if I say this. Doesn't this seem to much like an Apple Troll? Really even if you have a notifcation light how often do you stare at your phone? I mean to be quite honest I've had tons of phones in the past from the silly iphone, blackberry, to the Androids which by the way I feel are more capable than the rest. The notification LED yeah it's great but really most of the time I had to look at the phone to see if they are even on. And why would you be so concerned if the light is blinking or not I'm sure it goes on with a notification sound. I have the Droid Razr and this phone has one but I seldom notice the light blinking anyways. If your so reliant on the notification light going on all the time then you really have not much to do? This feature shouldn't be a deal breaker for most people and that's why I dropped the Razr for the SG2, then I heard my carrier is now carrying the Nexus. So now I'm faced with getting the Nexus since I just got the SG2, but my dilemna isn't about the phone but the tons of negatives that I'm seeing about the Nexus. I might just stay with the SG2 lte with nfc.
again you can still get the LEd with Noled or others so dont be put off because it doesnt have an inbuilt one it is still a great phone and options are there to give you what you want.
My audio notification goes off once. I'd be annoyed if it kept going off, sounds like some people have unfortunate software.
I had a Samsung Slide and loved the reminder that I had a text message - worked nicely if I were sleeping and one of my kids would text.
I am finding (or I can't find) the setting on the Galaxy S II where I have that option. I know it bothers others.. but, if there's a way, can someone help me out?
I use handcent and have no issues. I also came from a HTC device so I was used to the notification light. I have set my handcent up to bleep at 3 set intervals after the original text came in, also you can add different tones to different contacts so you know who sent you the message without opening the lock screen (obviously this won't help with non contacts but you can set single tone for that) this is handy if someone is sending endless jokes all the time. I would prefer to have the notification light but its not a deal breaker considering the positives of this great phone.
edit.... I also knew about this 'before' I bought it
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Go into NoLED settings and put a check on Switch NoLED on.
Go to Toggle Notifications and put a check in the notifications you want. I dont bother with the Charge indicator and I disable Display time.
Next, go to Icons. Set Themes to Default(Small), not important but hey, and remove all the check marks here.
This is one of the main things to do... Go to Colors and set all of them to Black. See where we're going with this......
This is the next important setting.... Go to Battery saving features > Blink and enable it. Here you'll be able to set the On Time/Off time and you obviously to leave White background unchecked.
Go back a step to Battery saving features and check Keep screen off.
All the other features, like audio reminders and stuff is up to the user. But follow the above and you will have Soft Key notifications. Basically NoLED flashes the soft keys with the display icons and all your doing is displaying the icons in black, so you don't see them and only see the Soft Keys.
Enjoy
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