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Old June 22nd, 2011, 04:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Post [Q] Is there any way to move apps to internal USB storage?

I know that apps are stored on a 2G partition, but is there a way to to move some of them like games into 11.5G internal usb storage instead of external SD card?

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I'm quite surprised that you have any apps automatically installing on the external card at all, none of the apps I has installed have done this.

My first question is why would you want to? Since you can store a lot of stuff on the external sd card and it's expandable (64GB cards just coming out although they are expensive) it strikes me that the external SD card is the perfect place to store them.

That said, no doubt you have your reasons.

While I don't know of a way to move already installed apps, can you not just uninstall them and then reinstall them while the external SD card is not in the phone? That way they couldn't install on the external card.
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I'm sorry you might mis-understood me, apps are installed in device memory (2Gb) by default, i know i can move apps to external SD, but in doing so making them load slower, so i want to find a way to move them to internal USB storage, the 2G device memory will be filling up over time because a lot apps cant be moved.
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Ah, I misread your post.

The way in which memory is labelled on the SGS2 is decidedly confusing. If you go into Settings->Applications then select the relevant application, you will see a "Move to SD card" option. This means into the /sdcard directory, which is what is elsewhere called USB Storage ie internal but not system partition. This does not mean the real external removable SD card.

I think that is what you are after.
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Hi, I am newbie in Android OS and this is my first Android phone. Just need to clarify that these apps that were seemingly 'moved' using App2SD is in fact moved to the USB storage instead of the real removable SD card?

I assumed they were moved to the SD card all this time and was beginning to wonder if the 14GB USB storage provided with the device is just for decor.

Thanks in advanced for helping out on this issue.
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Hi, I am newbie in Android OS and this is my first Android phone. Just need to clarify that these apps that were seemingly 'moved' using App2SD is in fact moved to the USB storage instead of the real removable SD card?

I assumed they were moved to the SD card all this time and was beginning to wonder if the 14GB USB storage provided with the device is just for decor.

Thanks in advanced for helping out on this issue.
I haven't used App2SD. I did it with the button in Settings->Applications.

That said, it's probably a fair bet that your apps have been moved to the internal storage, ie what is sometimes called USB storage rather than the real SD card.

Most Android phones, somewhat logically, mount the SD card on /sdcard. The SGS2, somewhat illogically, mounts its internal (ie the USB storage I referred to above) on /sdcard and mounts the real SD card on /sdcard/external_sd.

I haven't made much use of this functionality because, despite installing a load of apps, I still have 1.5GB free on the "Device memory" (ie that part of the internal storage not available to the user), 8GB on the "USB storage" (ie that part of the internal storage that is available to the user) and 16.5GB on my micro SDHC card so I'm not about to run out of space soon.

Your best bet is to note the free space by going to Settings->Storage. Move a big app and then check again to see which now has lower available space.
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lotus49, will try your suggestion about moving a big app. I didn't know there is a built-in app mover from phone memory to USB storage, hence the app2sd app I downloaded and used these few days. Thanks again.
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On the SGS2 the built-in Move to SD option actually moves the app to the external SD card, but the application's data remains in USB Storage.

Obviously the Launcher system has been modified to look for apps in /sdcard/external_sd as well.
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Hey i recently bought a S2 and i m having the same problem...some apps just won't get transferred to my internal SD...whenever i tap move to SD it gives me an error saying "not enough memory"...some apps automatically go to the internal SD some just stay on the device mem and just wudn't move...please help....
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Default Same issue..nt able to transfer to internal usb storage

Hi all,
pls correct me if I am wrong. There are 3 types of.storage memories as far as galaxy s2 aka sgs2 is.concerned.
1. Device memory - around 2gb.
2. Internal USB Storage - shows around 11gb.
3. SD card - the external card.

Now the option 'move to sd' or the application APP2SD transfers the apps from device memory to external sd card which you have inserted. For those like me, who still want to use already given 11gb, this process gives a error saying 'not enough memory'. The usb storage only has the pics n videos n songs which u hv clicked or wich you have transferred using kies.
If anyone is out there with the solution about HOW TO TRANSFER FROM DEVICE MEMORY TO INTERNAL USB STORAGE...please post it here.. People need the solution......
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For those like me, who still want to use already given 11gb, this process gives a error saying 'not enough memory'.
How much space is shown as available on USB Storage?
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There are 3 types of memory

1) Device Memory
2) Internal USB / SD
3) External SD

Every time you install an app, it will put its files in Device Memory + Internal USB/SD or fully in Device Memory. For example, I installed Real Football 2011. The EXE files are probably in Device Memory but the data files (500MB+) are in Internal USB. Some of the smaller apps are fully installed in the Device Memory.

When you select to move from Device Mempry to SD, you usually get that option for the smaller apps like Bunny Shooter, Chess . I think it does the same thing like the bigger games, where the EXE remains in Device Memory while the game data goes to the SD.

As for the external SD, I think some files does go there when you move to SD. 2 reasons;
1) There is a folder (hidden) called Android_secure where data for apps can be found
2) If you mount and unmount/remove the SD card, some apps have problem running.

What data goes where, is mostly determined by the phone/android. To prevent problems and since IMHO the phone has large enough memory, I keep the apps in the phone memory. Sometimes when you install, I noticed that the app is already in SD. So I will click those and move that to the phone memory. Will do this as long as I have enough memory.




PS - I use the External SD for songs, videos, documents etc. which is not required for running apps. And I don't used App2SD since the Manage Application in SGS2 can do that.
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How much space is shown as available on USB Storage?
Just checked.. I went into SETTINGS >> STORAGE.

1. SD Card -- I don't have a external SD card. So, it is showing "Unavailable".
2. USB Storage -- Total Space = 11.50 GB
Available Space = 10.42 GB

3. Device Memory -- Available Space = 1.69 GB

...still don't know how to transfer things from "Device memory" to "USB Storage".. :-(
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There are 3 types of memory

1) Device Memory
2) Internal USB / SD
3) External SD

Every time you install an app, it will put its files in Device Memory + Internal USB/SD or fully in Device Memory. For example, I installed Real Football 2011. The EXE files are probably in Device Memory but the data files (500MB+) are in Internal USB. Some of the smaller apps are fully installed in the Device Memory.

When you select to move from Device Mempry to SD, you usually get that option for the smaller apps like Bunny Shooter, Chess . I think it does the same thing like the bigger games, where the EXE remains in Device Memory while the game data goes to the SD.

As for the external SD, I think some files does go there when you move to SD. 2 reasons;
1) There is a folder (hidden) called Android_secure where data for apps can be found
2) If you mount and unmount/remove the SD card, some apps have problem running.

What data goes where, is mostly determined by the phone/android. To prevent problems and since IMHO the phone has large enough memory, I keep the apps in the phone memory. Sometimes when you install, I noticed that the app is already in SD. So I will click those and move that to the phone memory. Will do this as long as I have enough memory.




PS - I use the External SD for songs, videos, documents etc. which is not required for running apps. And I don't used App2SD since the Manage Application in SGS2 can do that.
Hey Russell.. thanks for the input.. I lost you in the last paragraph :-( sorry..
Simply speaking.. is there any way to transfer a application completely from device memory (i guess you are calling this phone memory..) to Internal USB Storage (what you are calling SD) ???
"Move to SD" option is related to the External SD Card. So, let's keep that out of the picture. Pls correct me if I am wrong.
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Btw.. I used SGS2 to click 250+ photos at the F1 race event at Buddha Circuit in India
My friend was using iPhone 4.. and sad to say, iPhone clicked better :-( but still.. my video was tooo good to be true ;-)
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"Move to SD" option is related to the External SD Card
I'm surprised that the USB Storage isn't automatically used when no external card is found - that's very shortsighted.
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Actually move to SD usually transfers the files to internal USB storage. The move to SD option is still available whether you have an external SD card or not. If you don't have external, it will transfer to the Internal USB storage.

When you have an external SD, I don't know how the phone transfers, but I noticed the files appear in external SD. It might be that some goes to the internal USB storage (particularly the game data), but the user data (saved game etc.) goes to the external SD.

Anyway, just to cut the story short, moving to SD will transfer some data from the Phone Memory (1.9GB) to another memory (SD) either internal USB memory which have 11.5GB or external SD (or combination there off).

Hope that's a little clearer


PS- To move to SD, go to Manage Application in Settings. Go to "On SD". If there is a green tick, its already in SD. If not, then you can select that application and move it to SD. You only free up the Phone Memory.
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I'm surprised that the USB Storage isn't automatically used when no external card is found - that's very shortsighted.

ya truly.. It should have a option that says "Move to Internal USB Storage".. because SGS2 has a dedicated internal usb storage unlike many others. That is a thing they should rectify soon. Or tell us the exact way how to do it, in case we don't know the correct way to do it.
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Actually move to SD usually transfers the files to internal USB storage. The move to SD option is still available whether you have an external SD card or not. If you don't have external, it will transfer to the Internal USB storage.
Russell, I think that is not the case completely. "Move to SD" option is there, i agree even if there is no external SD card inserted in the phone. But in the absence of the external SD card, this option gives a error saying "Not enough memory".. It does not transfer the apps to internal usb storage. Otherwise noone would have asked this question, i think everyone has tried that.. and even the app2sd application also does this only. Pls correct me if I am wrong.

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Anyway, just to cut the story short, moving to SD will transfer some data from the Phone Memory (1.9GB) to another memory (SD) either internal USB memory which have 11.5GB or external SD (or combination there off).
Move to SD option is not helping in transfering data from device memory to Internal USB storage.

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PS- To move to SD, go to Manage Application in Settings. Go to "On SD". If there is a green tick, its already in SD. If not, then you can select that application and move it to SD. You only free up the Phone Memory.
Now here is a Classic case... I DONOT have a EXTERNAL SD CARD.

I only have the device memory and the internal usb storage.

I went to "Settings" > "Manage Applications" > "On SD" tab.

I don't have a green tick on any of the apps shown there. for example - angry birds, ninjump, opera mini, viber etc.

when i click on the "tick" box, it opens the same screen with "move to sd" option. When I click on "move to sd"....same error :'( not enough memory.

If you are successful in transfering the data from Device memory to Internal USB storage..please let us know :-(
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I am not sure why this is the case. Before I have the external SD, I tried moving to SD before and it worked fine then. I would hate unmounting the external SD card now cause all my ringtones and music is in there and probably some apps too. Unmounting and remounting later might screw up my settings and apps.

Will see if can try.


Have the same error message without the external SD card. The thing is I got the SD card after more than 1 month playing with the phone and remembered it worked then. Don't know what has changed. I was using App2SD at that time.

Sigh... guess you have to get an external SD as well.
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I am not sure why this is the case. Before I have the external SD, I tried moving to SD before and it worked fine then. I would hate unmounting the external SD card now cause all my ringtones and music is in there and probably some apps too. Unmounting and remounting later might screw up my settings and apps.

Will see if can try.


Have the same error message without the external SD card. The thing is I got the SD card after more than 1 month playing with the phone and remembered it worked then. Don't know what has changed. I was using App2SD at that time.

Sigh... guess you have to get an external SD as well.

Removing the external SD card and inserting again will not screw up anything. The card is meant to be mounted and unmounted, so it will not affect anything.

And even after 11 GB free on internal usb storage, I have to get a external SD card.. that will really suck big time :-(
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Actually unmounting does screw up some stuff. My ringtones will get reset, and my wallpapers too since they are in the external sd card. Meaning sort of have to redo it again. Don't know bout apps since wasn't running any.

Anyway, I don't really think you need an external sd card if you don't want to. The memory given is plenty. I mean most of the data files are in the Internal USB memory. All those HD games that are huge, most of the data is in the Internal USB memory. In terms of percentage, I actually use more USB memory than phone memory. So in my opinion there is plenty for apps.

The external SD is only good if you got lots of files that takes up memory space like pictures, songs and videos. I have drawings in my phone since I deal with those in my work.

Sorry couldn't help further.
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Yes you are correct. If the internal memory is this much, there won't be a dire need of external memory card any time soon.
I have a query. The pics we click, the videos we capture, the voice recordings, bluetooth received pics,vids,songs and the songs pics vids transferred from a computer using kies...all these things go into internal usb storage ??
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For photos and video captures there's an option in the camera settings to set the storage location to either phone or memory card. Voice recordings I don't know about. BT transfers default to USB Storage and I haven't found an option to change that. I assume there's a means of specifying destination folders for Kies transfers; I either mount the drive and copy with Explorer, or use Winamp (with a folder on the external card set as the destination).
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I cant find anything like that in camera settings.. Shukks I feel technically challanged :-(
Is it in the settings u get while thecamera is ON.. Or somewhr else ?
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Its in the camera settings, under storage where you can select sd card or phone.
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I have read this thread I still feel so confused with all three different storage on this device. Because I do not really see much storage on USB storage most storage on Device Memory.. So I am not sure what is different between Device Memory and USB Storage. I am familiar with SD Card I tend storage my pictures on SD card.. But What would be storage in USB and Device?
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i read all what you wrote...
My problem is that when i got my phone and i installed applications, i had the possibility to move applications from memory device to SD card (which is after all explanation USB internal storage)... After that i put a card in my cell and i tried to see how it works in order to understand the "whole memory precess" . i found out that when you have a card in your cell, the transfer goes to this card...
My problem appeared when i removed this card, so now i have "device memoy" and "usb storage" only. i tried to install an application and move it to sd ( which is now usb storage) , i have the answer: your phone doesn't have SD card. insert SD card!!!!!!!!!
so now i dont know how to solve this problem ( how to move from device to usb storage)!!!
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I have read this thread I still feel so confused with all three different storage on this device. Because I do not really see much storage on USB storage most storage on Device Memory.. So I am not sure what is different between Device Memory and USB Storage. I am familiar with SD Card I tend storage my pictures on SD card.. But What would be storage in USB and Device?
Device Memory / Phone Memory is where all the required files for the phone to be used is located. For small apps, it would also be installed there fully (unless move to SD). All EXE files should be in the Phone Memory. Even when move to SD, a small part of the app (which should be the EXE file) are left in there. You cannot access this part of the memory unless rooted.

The USB storage is for your use. You can place everything here. For big apps like gameloft games, most of the data would be placed here as well.

SD card is like it says, just another external memory for storage. You can placed all your things in here. But when you have it, when you try Move to SD for your apps, the apps would be transferred here under hidden folder Android_secure.

Hope that this is a bit clearer.
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i read all what you wrote...
My problem is that when i got my phone and i installed applications, i had the possibility to move applications from memory device to SD card (which is after all explanation USB internal storage)... After that i put a card in my cell and i tried to see how it works in order to understand the "whole memory precess" . i found out that when you have a card in your cell, the transfer goes to this card...
My problem appeared when i removed this card, so now i have "device memoy" and "usb storage" only. i tried to install an application and move it to sd ( which is now usb storage) , i have the answer: your phone doesn't have SD card. insert SD card!!!!!!!!!
so now i dont know how to solve this problem ( how to move from device to usb storage)!!!
I don't think there is a work around. Everyone mentioned that without the SD card, the Move to SD will give an error "Not enough Memory Space". I remember before I had the microSD, it would transfer to USB storage but now when I took out the microSD and try to move, I also get that error. Can't be helped.

Still in my opinion, there are plenty of memory to go around for apps so I really don't see this as a big issue.

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Old November 10th, 2011, 09:28 PM   #31 (permalink)
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hmmm... the question still prevails...

-- IF YOU DON'T HAVE A EXTERNAL SD CARD, "move to SD" option DOESN'T WORK.. SO HOW TO MOVE FROM DEVICE MEMORY TO INTERNAL USB STORAGE --

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@LeoDroid ::

Follow the path

Settings > Storage

There you can see its written Device memory, USB storage etc.

And as Russell explained... device memory is just like the phone memory. Internal USB Storage is the storage given by default inside galaxy S2 (this is apart from device memory). External SD card is a physical memory card that you insert or take out as and when you want. You cannot remove the internal usb storage.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 11:40 PM   #33 (permalink)
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hmmm... the question still prevails...

-- IF YOU DON'T HAVE A EXTERNAL SD CARD, "move to SD" option DOESN'T WORK.. SO HOW TO MOVE FROM DEVICE MEMORY TO INTERNAL USB STORAGE --

:-(
Don't think you can. Have to live with it I guess. Is your device memory storage space inadequate? I think its plenty large.
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Old November 11th, 2011, 10:10 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I use "ES File Explorer" to move stuff around.
Havnt tried to move from memory to storage thou, ive only move from phone to USB card.
Not sure if some things will still work after if you go nuts with it though
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Then please do try to move stuff from phone memory aka device memory to internal usb storage... If u succeed, you could be the first one to do it.. N we all will get a solution... So humanity needs u :-)
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@Russell, slug and everyone else...
New issues im facing..i could have searched for a proper forum thread but thought will share it here only..
1. I have gprs pack activated on my number which is called packet data.. Now when I am using gprs and suppose im chating with a friend on gtalk on any other chat client, I ping my friend and wait for him to ping me back.. While I am waiting, the phone screen gets locked in around 30 seconds or so.. Now as soon as the phone gets locked (whether automatically or u do it by power button), the gprs connection terminates. When you unlock the phone, then it connects again and THEN I receive the ping from my friend which he sent 30 minutes ago.. How to stop this disconnection on phone lock...?

2. I have skype, watsapp installed. So when I try to call a contact it asks for a confirmation whether I want to use dialer, watsapp or skype. there is also a default checkbox at the bottom of the prompt. One fine day I decided to tick the default checkbox and.then clicked on Dialer. So now I dont get that prompt, dialer is used automatically. Butttttt, now due to the smooooth touch of s2 I am making acidental calls to people and there is no confirmation screen nd it dials.straight out... I want that screen back.. When I clicked on thr default checkbox, there came.a.message that I can clear the defaults in settings > applications > manage applications > clear defaults.. But there is no such option in manage applications... Help!
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@Russell, slug and everyone else...
New issues im facing..i could have searched for a proper forum thread but thought will share it here only..
1. I have gprs pack activated on my number which is called packet data.. Now when I am using gprs and suppose im chating with a friend on gtalk on any other chat client, I ping my friend and wait for him to ping me back.. While I am waiting, the phone screen gets locked in around 30 seconds or so.. Now as soon as the phone gets locked (whether automatically or u do it by power button), the gprs connection terminates. When you unlock the phone, then it connects again and THEN I receive the ping from my friend which he sent 30 minutes ago.. How to stop this disconnection on phone lock...?

2. I have skype, watsapp installed. So when I try to call a contact it asks for a confirmation whether I want to use dialer, watsapp or skype. there is also a default checkbox at the bottom of the prompt. One fine day I decided to tick the default checkbox and.then clicked on Dialer. So now I dont get that prompt, dialer is used automatically. Butttttt, now due to the smooooth touch of s2 I am making acidental calls to people and there is no confirmation screen nd it dials.straight out... I want that screen back.. When I clicked on thr default checkbox, there came.a.message that I can clear the defaults in settings > applications > manage applications > clear defaults.. But there is no such option in manage applications... Help!
Can't help you with number 1 since never really used gprs pack or whatever it is. As for number 2, just look in Manage Application/All/Dialer and clear default from there.

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PS-For number 2, the principle is the same for all apps. If you had use skype as your default, you need to find skype and clear from there.
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@Russell :: Dude thanks for the clear default thing.

and for issue number 1, GPRS is the internet access provided by the telephone network service provider, like verizon, airtel etc.

types of GPRS are 2G, 3G etc..

any clue ?
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one more issue.. (i think im loaded with issues :-( )
my ringtone suddenly stops.. as in the phone doesnot ring.. even when every sound is turned up... i have to restart the phone to get the ringtone working.. anyone else facing this issue ?

And HOW TO RECORD A CALL.. voices of both side parties and all parties in case of a conference call.
I couldn't find anything already supplied by samsung, so downloaded a few apps from android market. they simply don't work. Please suggest a app that works without any "strategic configuration".... Thanks
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You meant the data line. Sorry not sure what is causing the problem of drop connection in lock screen. It shouldn't happen unless you are using an app that switches off data line automatically when screen is dead. I still get watsapp messages even if screen is closed, as long as data line is activated. Check your apps and see if anything is playing havoc with it.

Not sure what's causing the ringtone issue, but if it doesn't happen again, I think it should be fine. Not sure about call recording. Not using.

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Hi, new here, and just had samsung galaxy s2. Great phone but I was getting confused with the different types of storage. I think I have finally got it sorted and thought I would pass it on to help others who might have the same problem.

If you want to store an application to usb, and you are downloading from the android market, when you click on download, a page appears and gives the option to modify the contents of usb storage. Click on the arrow on the right hand side and click yes. It then downloads to that location. Not sure if you can move applications already on the phone to usb, unless you delete them and reinstall.

If you have a external sd card. I have gone to Settings, then applications, the manage applications, and there is an option to move to sd card. this is the external card,
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If you want to store an application to usb, and you are downloading from the android market, when you click on download, a page appears and gives the option to modify the contents of usb storage. Click on the arrow on the right hand side and click yes. It then downloads to that location. Not sure if you can move applications already on the phone to usb, unless you delete them and reinstall.
I tried this, but the setting you talk of appears to not be changeable ... the "option to modify the contents of usb storage" appears to be an indication that the app in question needs to be able to access/modify USB storage - some apps have it, some don't. When I click on it for an app which has this displayed on the Market, it merely pops up a dialog box which says "modify/deleted USB storage contents," in other words not a destination for where to install the app but an indication that the app needs that right.
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Hi, i found that if you check in task manager then storage,that u s b storage decreased once a downloaded application modified u s b storage.
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so we still don't have an answer for this ?

this is making android seem a bit of a joke. how can it have this limitation ?

i've criticized iOS a lot, but those limitations almost pale in comparison to this one.

my asus transformer (honeycomb) doesn't suffer this affliction, but i believe it's system storage is dynamic.

hopefully ICS will fix this stupid problem.

how can a bunch of people be clever enough to give us the android OS, but dumb enough to hobble it with a problem like this. i despair !!!!
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Sorry... but mind explaining what problem you are referring to? A lot of people mentioned different things.

If you mean how android partition the memory, I don't really think its a problem. IOS dump everything in the same place, simply because you aren't allowed to play with it anyway. Android is very much like windows file management. It tries to keep certain files from itchy fingers so you don't accidentally mess up the system whereas you can play with the rest of the storage. Same like your PC. The system files are hidden whereas the hard disk memory is there for you to play with. Even then you can root to get around it. The way I look at it, I think the memory partitioning is not a bad idea. It gives flexibility to organize the way you want to as well.

I would agree that they should have given an option for Move2SD in the sense that user should have a choice of moving to internal USB storage or an external one. But seriously, I don't think its that big a deal either. IPhone would never have any external storage for one thing.

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here's my problem.

only had this phone for a month. i usually go to the marketplace every day to check on new apps. it's fair to say i've downloaded quite a few. maybe about a hundred. but now everything's ground to a halt. i can't install any more apps because there's no more space. even though i have about 9Gb free on the USB storage.

i have an 64Gb iPad. that's let me install 60Gb approx worth of apps+data. no problems.

from what i've seen with android, i'm severely restricted by how many apps i can download.

surely they wouldn't be this stupid and have this limitation. would they ? it beggars belief.

so it's a big deal for me. i've paid all this money for the device and thought i'd be able to use it for my purposes.

can't believe the android community isn't up in arms about this. this OS is severely hobbled.
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How bout move to SD? Used that already?
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i don't have an SD card. i was planning to, but the plan was to expand when the internal memory filled up.

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I guess then its time to get one. I think it would be good since a lot of time, you can clear up about 90% of the apps memory into the external SD card. Just a question, are you having the 32GB kind or 16GB?

If you download all the apps that are fully stored in the internal memory (2GB), I can see how it can finish quite fast. But I have a mixture, and somehow the 11.5GB and 2GB memory space tends to balance out for me. Gameloft games can be quite big, but most of the data files are in the 11.5GB USB storage so the balance works out. For the 32GB, I think the balance won't be quite right.

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Hoping to revive and add to this conversation.

I think the problem lies in the fact that android does not handle phones properly that have BOTH internal SD (USB) storage and external SD cards. So far in everything I've read directly from Google mobile support articles I keep coming across the phrase "Depending on your model of phone, your phone also has either internal USB storage or a removable SD card". This is incorrect, as some can do both and they never address it as such.

For instance, under manage applications, my phone labels the button as 'Move to USB storage' but it in fact moves it to the external SD. If the card is unmounted or removed, then I get the "failed to move application. not enough memory" message.

I've read that some people were able to move to USB storage prior to inserting an external SD card for the first time. If this is the case, I'd like to know why and if it's possible to get back to that point without re-formatting/restoring your phone.

Can anyone answer the following:

1. Is it possible to move an app to USB storage (internal SD) if you have used an SD card already.

2. If not, why can a phone without an external slot move apps to USB storage but a phone with external storage cannot?

3. Is the USB storage intended to be used only for data moved when connected to a PC via a USB cable? If so, then why is #2 true for phones without external storage options?

The reason this is important is because I'm reaching the point where my external storage is full. So I'd like to know if the 12.5 GB out of 13 of unused USB storage has to go unused (as far as apps go). Yes, I can get a larger SD card but I'd rather not. It seems like this should be possible, but because Android wasn't designed for phones capable of both storage options it doesn't know what to do when presented with both.

Very frustrating. Has anyone figured out a workaround?
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