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Old July 4th, 2011, 02:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hi i buy my samsung galaxy 19100 when malaysia not launch it.. after month i go to mobile shop n the seller say my phone not original..the original mark with MADE BY SAMSUNG..NOT MADE IN KOREA BY SAMSUNG..it is true...?? can anybody can answer this..im dissapointed

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hi...do u already check my phone...?
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How could someone make a fake SGS2 that was even remotely convincing?

I don't believe it's even possible.

Is there anything wrong with the phone? Does it look different from what you would expect? Is the build quality OK? Does it work?

If the answer to any of these questions is yes, I don't believe that you have a "fake" SGS2.
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im wondering too since i talked with the seller...ya its work...app,camera...etc..but im shocked after the seller say my phone was not original...and he show the mark..galaxy tab also have the same problem..problem with the battery and the phone are easy to get problem....and he show me the phone label which not have samsung verified...owwwhhhh im so confius...y fake??? anobody can have me xplen about this...pless...
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Mine says something similar on that screen, better not be fake...
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mine is exactly what you have there. and going by what it says on the box, mine is made in Korea.

edit: says it's made in SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS then the Korean address straight after.

looks legit enough to me.
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I think you are over-reacting to what someone who probably knows a lot less than they claim says.

It is completely implausible that any manufacturer could produce a clone of a top of the range phone (in fact, the most powerful phone on release at the moment) within a month of its being available.

Samsung is one of the world's largest companies and will have spent a fortune developing this phone. It simply is not possible that another, much smaller company could have copied it in the time they have had. In fact, I don't believe it would be possible ever.

If your phone does what you would expect, and looks well made, there is absolutely no way it could be a fake. This is a fuss about nothing. I have also searched for "Samsung Galaxy S II" fake on Google and there were no references that I could see on the net to fakes.

However, if you are daft enough to believe this, contact Samsung and ask them.
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From what you have posted aizawa I believe your Samsung Galaxy SII to be genuine.

Your firmware codes are genuine.

As for the allegation by the mobile shop seller that your phone is not genuine because it says, "Made in Korea by Samsung" is ridiculous as my genuine Samsung Galaxy SII says exactly that on the sticker under the battery.

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tq all for the explenation...i really appreciate it..tqvm...now im happy actually today i make a call to samsung center..and they say my phone is original but it from korea...everythings are original..not fake..mybe i have to learn much more from this forum...really useful..thank again all frens
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Guys it is imposible there is No manufacturer that can produce anything close to SGS II which we don't know as a brand name (Nokia, Blackberry, Samsung, Iphone and etc) .

I have seen people with "no brand" devices which are ridiculous looking with 15 sim cards and few functions.

No one can make SGS II looking device without you realizing the difference after 3 sec of holding it.

SO don't worry it is "original" although this word has lost its value and meaning in the last 10 years.
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hey , i have a similar problem which is the other way around, my phone says "made by samsung" which to me looks kinda fishy. you think u can help out here?
pda: i9100xwke7
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It doesn't make any difference what it says.

As has been stated several times in this thread, it just isn't possible that any organisation could have made a clone of the SGS2 that could fool a baby for more than a few seconds.

If it looks OK and works, it's not a fake no matter what it says on the battery or anywhere else on the phone.

Just stop and think about it for a minute. How could some little operation in China possible reproduce what one of the world's largest companies has produced and a world leading phone? It is totally implausible.

Your phone is NOT a fake.
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post some pictures of your phone close up.

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It doesn't make any difference what it says.

As has been stated several times in this thread, it just isn't possible that any organisation could have made a clone of the SGS2 that could fool a baby for more than a few seconds.

If it looks OK and works, it's not a fake no matter what it says on the battery or anywhere else on the phone.

Just stop and think about it for a minute. How could some little operation in China possible reproduce what one of the world's largest companies has produced and a world leading phone? It is totally implausible.

Your phone is NOT a fake.
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Here Are The Top Ten Chinese iPhone Knockoffs | TheTechJournal.com

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i will post some pictures soon. In the meantime that video of the Nokia n95 made me believe that making unauthentic phones is possible. I shouldn't have bought it online, i spent almost 8 bills and now i feel bad.
The phone runs great but i feel something is missing...any ideas that might help here, that would be appreciated.
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I followed the links and it certainly looked like these phones, which were produced some time (not a month) after the original was released would not pass any sort of examination.

Of course I cannot be absolutely sure but I'd bet £100 on it in a heartbeat. Would you like to take me up on the offer ;-).
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I followed the links and it certainly looked like these phones, which were produced some time (not a month) after the original was released would not pass any sort of examination.

Of course I cannot be absolutely sure but I'd bet £100 on it in a heartbeat. Would you like to take me up on the offer ;-).
Yes, I would!

I'm sorry... but these were the statements I was questioning the accuracy of...

"it just isn't possible that any organisation could have made a clone of the SGS2 that could fool a baby for more than a few seconds."

"If it looks OK and works, it's not a fake no matter what it says on the battery or anywhere else on the phone."

"How could some little operation in China possible reproduce what one of the world's largest companies has produced and a world leading phone? It is totally implausible."

So you agree that it is both possible and plausible and are now questioning the time scale.

Lets bear in mind that the real Samsung Galaxy SII was first released on the 28th April 2011, that's over 10 weeks ago. See here:-

Samsung Galaxy S2 Release Dates

You may regret your very generous offer of 100 after reading this New York Times article from 2009 which states...

“It’s really common for factories to do a night shift for other companies,” says Zhang Haizhen, who recently ran a shanzhai company here. “No one will refuse an order if it is over 5,000 mobile phones.”

Article link...

In China, Knockoff Cellphones Are a Hit - NYTimes.com



The first iPhone was released in the United States on the 29th June 2007... see here:-

iPhone (original) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This report dated 6th July 2007 shows a fake iPhone that was released in the May of 2007... before the iPhone was released...

Fake iPhone From China: Video : Digital-Lifestyles

This article and video from 21st June 2007 shows a fake iPhone one week before release.

LiveLeak.com - Fake iPhones Flooding China's Electronics Markets

This report from November 2007 also shows a fake iPhone which had been on sale for awhile..

The Time Vault of Ridiculous News: China's New Fake IPhones 'Love Craze' (?? or ??) Sells Millions

I think you will agree that I have proved that not only can counterfeit phones be made within a month but even before release of the genuine article.

I'll take the 100, thanks... or have you changed your mind?
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Fwiw, there were Chinese copies of the HTC Hero (the GSM version complete with famous 'chin') appearing within a month or two of its release. These wouldn't have passed close inspection by an experienced Android user but glossy web sites, impressive-sounding feature lists and low prices attracted a number of first-time buyers.

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To my untutored eye those look like photos of the genuine article. Compared to my own here the texture of the back cover, the size/colour of the lettering and the trim details look identical. The PDA/CSC combo you posted earlier also tallies with an official Samsung firmware so I reckon you can breathe easy.
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+1 on authenticity.

Judging from the codes you have posted and the images, I would say you're OK.

Enjoy your phone!
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I'll take the 100, thanks... or have you changed your mind?
Has anyone seen lotus49 and my 100?

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K now i would like to root my galaxy 2 so i can add my own language pack. Ironass i see u have yours rooted, could you please tell me how? Thnks.
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There are a number of threads on the subject of rooting the SGSII here:-

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Thanks, but I can't take credit for it. All I did was put info already available in other threads into an more easily digested format.
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You're too modest slug!

I'm sure you, and a lot of other forum members, have spent hours, sometimes, trawling through different websites, forums and Googling, just to garner all the information that they need... I know I have in the past.

Therefore it is very helpful when someone, like yourself, takes the time and trouble to put together everything in one place and update it.

It means that other forum members have a point of reference to refer to, not only for themselves but to other members who may have queries... as just happened.

So, credit where credit is due... thanks slug!




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I'm here, I've been away for a few days.

However, I was betting that the OP's phone was genuine and since you seem to agree, wouldn't you owe me the 100 ?

Nevertheless, I am impressed by the thoroughness of your research but still totally unconvinced anyone has come up with a fake SGS2. None of your long list of sources suggested that.
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The whole ethos of Android Forums is to share information and experience, so if anyone comes across something that they feel will benefit others, it makes good sense to keep it all together. Why reinvent the wheel, or make others suffer as we did?
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I'm here, I've been away for a few days.

However, I was betting that the OP's phone was genuine and since you seem to agree, wouldn't you owe me the 100 ?

Nevertheless, I am impressed by the thoroughness of your research but still totally unconvinced anyone has come up with a fake SGS2. None of your long list of sources suggested that.
There you are lotus49!

Your post certainly does not read that way I'm afraid as it makes no mention whatsoever of the OP's phone and it being genuine and concentrates on the ability to produce a fake in under a month.

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I followed the links and it certainly looked like these phones, which were produced some time (not a month) after the original was released would not pass any sort of examination.

Of course I cannot be absolutely sure but I'd bet £100 on it in a heartbeat. Would you like to take me up on the offer ;-).
You now seem to have moved from it is impossible to make a fake phone:-

"it just isn't possible that any organisation could have made a clone of the SGS2 that could fool a baby for more than a few seconds."

"If it looks OK and works, it's not a fake no matter what it says on the battery or anywhere else on the phone."

"How could some little operation in China possible reproduce what one of the world's largest companies has produced and a world leading phone? It is totally implausible."

and then moved on to not possible inside a month...

"it certainly looked like these phones, which were produced some time (not a month) after the original was released would not pass any sort of examination."

to now asking me to prove that specifically the Samsung Galaxy SII has been counterfeited.

Unfortunately, the manufacturers of such devices, in my experience, tend to find it counter productive to advertise the fact that their phones are cheap, knock-off, copies, for a number of reasons which I am sure are blazingly obvious.

However, given my previous proof and the fact that the Samsung Galaxy SII has already sold in excess of 3 million handsets in the first 55 days of sale, I think it is highly probable that, even as I am writing this, that there are counterfeit models of the Galaxy SII, if not already circulating then, in the pipeline.

Therefore, to anyone reading this thread, the advice is if you see or are offered a very cheap Samsung Galaxy SII either in a shop or on the web then bear in mind the Latin legal phrase..."caveat emptor", which translates to.. "Let the buyer beware".

Don't be misled into thinking that the phone cannot be copied or even released in such a short space of time... it can!

Wouldn't you now agree lotus49?
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Wouldn't you now agree lotus49?
I'm still not convinced.

I did read/watch all (or most) of your links and what they all seemed to say is that it is possible to produce something that looks roughly like the real thing but none of them claimed that any of these knock-offs would pass a proper inspection.

Did I miss something?
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I'm still not convinced.

I did read/watch all (or most) of your links and what they all seemed to say is that it is possible to produce something that looks roughly like the real thing but none of them claimed that any of these knock-offs would pass a proper inspection.

Did I miss something?
It would seem so...

1. Not everyone has your in-depth knowledge of all newly released handsets, particularly if they are on sale prior to release in whatever country the buyer is living in.

2. Once you have been attracted by the slick and glossy advertising on some website and paid your money, only to discover that upon receipt that your phone is counterfeit it is too late to get your money back as I don't believe that any of the companies offering such phones give a money back guarantee. So even if it does not pass an initial inspection... it's too late.

3. Make no mistake, counterfeit phone manufacturing is big business in some parts of the world with millions of phones being manufactured.
Common sense dictates that if there was no money in this counterfeit market then it would not exist.

4. At no point have I said that the phones would have to pass in-depth scrutiny, as by the time you have parted with your cash... it's too late.

5. There is also the part of this market that caters to those who cannot afford a high end smartphone and will knowingly buy a counterfeit phone instead. These are openly on sale in shops and markets in some countries where perhaps the local Trading Standards regulations are not as stringent as they could be... if at all.

6. So rife is this trade that even eBay offers warnings on the subject. See here:-

"Summary It can be very difficult spotting these fake phones on eBay."

eBay.co.uk Guides - FAKE MOBILE PHONES SCAM - BEWARE - VERY IMPORTANT

Some of the fakes can be fairly convincing to the untrained eye. Here are just a couple of examples from many that appear on YouTube:-

YouTube - ‪Fake vs Real iPhone 4‬‏

YouTube - ‪NokiaN8Blog.info - Fake Nokia N8 - Chinese Version - Absolutely Amazing‬‏

To quote your earlier post...

"If it looks OK and works, it's not a fake no matter what it says on the battery or anywhere else on the phone."

I don't think so...do you?
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It would seem so...

4. At no point have I said that the phones would have to pass in-depth scrutiny, as by the time you have parted with your cash... it's too late.
But this is all I have ever claimed. The whole context of this discussion is that the OP already has his phone and has looked at it carefully. Given that the OP clearly didn't have any problem with the phone other than a label, his phone has passed an in-depth inspection.

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To quote your earlier post...

"If it looks OK and works, it's not a fake no matter what it says on the battery or anywhere else on the phone."

I don't think so...do you?
We are talking about a phone that the OP already has in his hands so yes I do.
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Its easy to spot a fake iPhone 4, if you can make a reliable voice call then its obviously a fake
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Dear i have the same MADE IN Korea eticket i entered the same code to my samsung galaxy s 2, and it says:

PDA: I9100XWKF1

PHONE: I9100XXKE7

CSC: I9100OJVKE4

Build Info: SatJun 4 18:09:49 KST 2011

I hope that my edition of SGS2 is also genuine for your opinion.
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I hope that my edition of SGS2 is also genuine for your opinion.
Looks fine to me. What makes you think that it might not be?
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Sorry if this has already been mentioned, I just skimmed the thread. Run a cfbench and then a quadrant benchmark. I bet my ass that if it was a fake quadrant wouldn't say under system info that your phone has an ARMv7 processor rev 1 and cfbench wouldn't mention gti9100 5 or 6 times.
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It is easy to spot a fake, even the best fake iPhones, and trust me my country harbors a lot of counterfeit phones, and no one can even match the genuine.

So I hardly doubt that anyone can make a very convincing gake GS2s

My friend has bought the same type of phone and has similar to the OP's yet he bought it at the Samsung store.

For reference mine says

PDA: I9100DXKI2
PHONE: I9100DXKI1
CSC: I9100OLCKH1
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Hey I did that with my phone and it says unable to process
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How can i check my s2 made? bcos it simply written made by samsung..
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There should be a label inside the battery compartment with details. There are also posts further back in the thread detailing other things to look out for.
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hello guys, i have samsung galaxy s2 Ig-19100 and when i looked at back it says made in china / made in china. is my phone legit or fake?

PDA: I9100UHKI2

PHONE: I9100UHKI1

CSC: I9100UUBKI2

Build Info : Mon Sep 5 20:11:10 KST 2011
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LOOk guys for you to get a good night sleep there is a simple test to do.Just connect your sgs2(fake or not )to your pc then start kies its imposible that kies will detect a fake phone like a real one ,and that;s it
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There are reports of Kies failing to detect legitimate phones too.... Have a look at some of the comments by disgruntled users of Kies. Just get it to a Samsung store and ask them to check. However, the best bet is to always obtain it from a reputable dealer.
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same with mine...it's written "made by samsung" on the backside of my phone..
i wonder if it's original or fake.
some says that the country of origin written in the box, but i can't find it..or maybe missed it (where's side of the box it printed again..??)
it does connect with kies...but the strange thing is that i couldn't upgrade it to ics
i haven't run the benchmark test since i dont know what the best app to show the "inside" of my sgs2..
my *#1234# test show :
PDA I9100XWKI4
PHONE I9100XXKI1
CSC I9100OJCKI1
Wed Sept 14 20:34:11: KST 2011

so..guys...any opinion...???
thanks
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same with mine...it's written "made by samsung" on the backside of my phone..
i wonder if it's original or fake.
some says that the country of origin written in the box, but i can't find it..or maybe missed it (where's side of the box it printed again..??)
it does connect with kies...but the strange thing is that i couldn't upgrade it to ics
i haven't run the benchmark test since i dont know what the best app to show the "inside" of my sgs2..
my *#1234# test show :
PDA I9100XWKI4
PHONE I9100XXKI1
CSC I9100OJCKI1
Wed Sept 14 20:34:11: KST 2011

so..guys...any opinion...???
thanks
It's genuine.

You should be able to update to ICS as your CSC code, OJC (South Africa, I think), has had ICS released for it... see posts #1 and #2, here.

Not sure what you mean by an app to show the, "inside", of it!
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^
thanks...that was really a good news
well...i.mean app that can show the details of performance and hardware: procc speed, memory clock or even the graphic...i mean just like kind of benchmarking software for computers...
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I use Android System Info, free from the Play Store.
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PDA: I9100XWLP7

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